No GPS, no problem!? Taming the Tin Triangle | Real pilot flies Avro Vulcan mission (MSFS)

Fast jet instructor uses real world experience to recreate a Vulcan mission. Fighting bad weather without GPS. Full mission inc low level nav at 250ft as well as autopilot, radalt, VOR, TACAN & ILS!
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📚 Chapters
00:00 Intro & Mission Brief
01:08 Pretakeoff cockpit setup
04:39 Getting airborne and engaging autopilot
10:14 Level off and descent planning
12:32 Using the Vulcan's Radar Altimeter
15:04 Weather options 2000ft inbound Warton
16:18 Starting low level at Warton
17:53 Radar altimeter demo and weather avoid!
20:46 Vulcan monstering over Lancaster
24:43 Vulcan approaching M6 pass at low level
27:10 Recovering to Teeside International via ILS 05
31:48 Established on ILS
33:33 Short final to land
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[@ukar69]

What an aircraft to return with. I’ve had the pleasure of waggling XL426’s flight surfaces. All that’s missing from the sim version is the smell.

[@cgaviator]

Now that would be something! Maybe I need a tin of oil, grease and avtur in my room!

[@thisisadebrown]

Decades of ground crew and air crew are hard to simulate

[@Battleaxe55555]

Brilliant video Chris. We’re so lucky to have access to this kind of content, thanks so much for creating it. It’s incredible to watch you operate in the way that you do, and make it look so easy. Thanks again and looking forward to more content on the Vulcan!

[@cgaviator]

Appreciate it, thanks for saying! Generally organised chaos! 😁

[@andrewedmonds5431]

It just goes to show how far we've come in flight simulation where you're looking out the window for breaks in the weather. Every time I fire it up I'm blown away by something. Love the content. Your local knowledge is incredible.

[@cgaviator]

Yeah, it’s incredible immersion to have to adapt to the weather!

[@kraypher6103]

Yesss I've recently started watching your videos and watched most 😅. What an aircraft to return with!

[@cgaviator]

Thanks, much appreciated!

[@707liner8]

Great to have you back, there's no beating real world mil experience when flying these sorts of planes! An interesting, and somewhat mind boggling fact, is that the Vulcan's first flight was only 11 years after first flight of the Lancaster!

[@cgaviator]

Yeah, I think I saw that, crazy fact! And thanks 🙏🏻

[@njcr4688]

Great video as always. Good to have you back. I love the nav videos. Really working the brain to keep on track. And using the beam compass turns everything on its head as its different to every other plane on the planet. Keep em coming. Thanks

[@cgaviator]

That’s for sure, and thanks! Lots planned! 😁

[@pcwizardman]

There is something beautiful about these analogue cockpits. So much work for the flight crew. Great video to replay slowly so I can follow it all. Finally landing at my home airport. Excellent!

[@cgaviator]

Yes, I do enjoy the old school ways. I fear too much automation these days has made piloting more of a desk job!

[@pcwizardman]

Totally agree

[@fuzzywun]

I guess some Vulcan stories for you..... Apparently my friend (Vulcan Captain) when flying past Fighter bases woulld always ask if their were any "Playmates" who wanted to come and play intercepts etc. He was always disappointed that the RAF had become so rule obsessed that they seldom did. Royal Navy at Yeovilton was a different story, they would divert out of the circuit to have a go! Now back in early sixties I guess Hunter was usual "Playmate." Now the Vulcan with it's massive wing would see them off simply by 2g turn at high altitude, and delight in watching the Hunters fall out of the sky. He delighted in calling "Opposite rudder" when they were on the way down. Towards the end of the Vulcan's service he was over Greenland when the AEO told him that his stuff was lit up like a Christmas Tree. John looked out of the window to find an F14. Thinking that the old trick would work ... 2G turn, and the F14 lit the burners and TURNED INSIDE HIM. Much chagrined but realised at that point that the Vulcan's days were definitely numbered. There were other stories... one of his party pieces was to barrel roll the machine on a practice bombing run - flown properly as a 1g manouevre the guys in the back didn't know what was happening - just some red line would rotate around a screen - the Navs found it disconcerting. The man taught me to fly Jet Provosts in 1966. Time flies......

[@cgaviator]

Incredible stories, thank you so much for sharing! There was an authorisation for 'embelishment' during my days which meant that the air defence lot could play with you if they found you! No turning and burning sadly.

[@markzzzz741]

More stories from 'senior' crews the better. The old days had plenty of threat and seemingly plenty of scope for for trying new tactics often. Thanks for returning Chris and a great video. The Tin Triangle is as complex as could be expected for a multi crew '50's bomber. One for the shopping list, but I expect lots of study!

[@aengberg1]

Great to see you back Chris! How about a Vulcan airshow routine to see what it can really do?

[@cgaviator]

Im gonna have to throw it around, I’ll look into the airshow routine

[@akeyuk]

So glad you came back with this vid Chris, quietly hoping you would be doing some vids on this amazing aircraft. I had to buy it, so many fond memories as a kid watching this at airshows and that iconic howl. Would love to just see more of your systems management in this aircraft as its always a pleasure watching such a calm professional and picking up tips along the way. Thanks for the great content as always.

[@cgaviator]

Thanks, glad to be back! I’ll have to learn some more about it! I fly so many different types in the sim, sometimes it’s hard to keep up! Need to get back in the Hawk T1 also!

[@michaelmartens6277]

The Vulcan has been my favorite jet since I was a small boy. I have fond memories of it casting a shadow over my house, on downwind, on Thursday evening arriving for the annual airshow. I'm almost 60 and still have a Vulcan mouse pad. Thanks for the flight!

[@cgaviator]

You’re welcome! And it’s so iconic! I wonder if F35s will ever stir emotions like this thing!

[@ojcksn]

Welcome back mate !

[@cgaviator]

Happy to be here!

[@tpr2410]

I'm delighted with your return, I missed you these months; again a great video, keep it up

[@cgaviator]

Appreciate you saying, thanks!

[@jeanmarclevy7752]

Great to see you are back, as always outstanding explanations on mil procedures and practice. Thank you from the swiss alps.

[@cgaviator]

Very kind, thanks! And a tad bit jealous of your location! 😁

[@dillank3240]

Welcome back! Thank you for the video!

[@cgaviator]

My pleasure 👍🏻

[@thelmaviaduct]

Great to see you back, Merry Christmas 🎄🎁

[@cgaviator]

Thanks, and to you!

[@Jamesneedscoffee]

Awesome video mate really glad you back making videos again.hope u have a fantastic Christmas

[@cgaviator]

Thanks, same to you!

[@haroldnicholson8603]

happy Christmas to you and yours Chris, great to see you on deck again, albeit this beast is way beyond this geriatric's abilities. Looking forward to more of your content. Stay safe.

[@cgaviator]

Long time! And thanks, same to you! But haven’t you been dabbling with airliners? This is just the same as that.. ish! 😅 Have a great one!

[@WWXspartan058]

Absolutely amazing stuff Chris, you were the only MSFS creator I knew would be able to properly handle her and you didn't disappoint. Great having you back.

[@cgaviator]

Thanks, you’re very kind!

[@imellor711]

I absolutely loved this video and thank you for allowing us joining you on this flight. It seemed to be what the Vulkan was made for and I appreciate taking us through the Auto pilot. Thank you,

[@cgaviator]

Absolutely my pleasure 👍🏻

[@CommandT]

Nice to see you back, CG :)

[@cgaviator]

Appreciate it!

[@TomKatter_]

Yoo!!! Welcome back Chris, hoping to see more of the Vulcan from you.

[@cgaviator]

Thanks, appreciate it 👍🏻

[@catherineburton195]

I started my career on the Viscount 800. The Smiths flight system, with the movable heading pointer and static course bar, was almost identical. The HSI was called a beam compass. It was always fun to fly with a new captain joining the fleet from longhaul where they’d have flown a more modern HSI/flight director. Flying a procedural ILS with a procedure turn required very agile spatial awareness.

[@catherineburton195]

Level off was a 5 second burst of nose down then pull the alt hold with 50’ to go. It would then hold the required altitude.

[@cgaviator]

5 seconds wouldn't cut it in this model! lol

[@jonpearcemusic]

Just a wonderful way to spend my lunch break on the last work day of the year. Thank you and happy holidays

[@cgaviator]

That makes me very happy to hear. Thanks for watching! And same to you!

[@stevenbarton7474]

Good to see you back

[@cgaviator]

Thanks!

[@DARDO5]

You return welcome back captain

[@cgaviator]

Thanks 👍🏻

[@sneeks]

Great to see you back Chris, a excellent demonstration on how to fly this complicated aircraft for a novice like me.

[@cgaviator]

Don’t ask me to try and start it! 😂

[@peterjohnson350]

I had wondered why the posts have stopped. Glad you are ok and great fo have you back.

[@cgaviator]

Yeah, I took a break! Content creation is no small task and my hat goes off to those that do it regularly!

[@yootooooooob]

Glad to see you posting again and in my second fav plane (after the Tornado) Might give this plane a go since it doesn't seem so daunting now with your techniques. Would love to see a Falklands bomb drop scenario, but without all the refuelling stages.

[@cgaviator]

As the Vulcan handed over airborne deterrent to the Tonka, it seems fitting! Not much to do in MSFS for a bombing scenario other than fly straight and level whilst shouting bombs away! 😂

[@MrPeterhemm]

Thanks Chris! I'm loving the Vulcan even more since they added the Auto-AEO, it really helps focus on piloting this beast.

[@cgaviator]

Yeah, saves me having to run downstairs during flight! 😂

[@belgeode]

Absolutely brilliant video! I still need to spend some more time with this beastie! Your tips will surely help!

[@cgaviator]

Thank you good sir 👍🏻

[@_evanm05]

Its good to have you back Chris!

[@cgaviator]

Thank you, appreciate it 👍🏻

[@user-kt7nk5cj6l]

Glad to see you back Chris 🙌

[@cgaviator]

Me too! And thanks 👍🏻

[@archiederbyshire2402]

Great to see you back!

[@cgaviator]

Thank you kindly!

[@johnjames1228]

Welcome back Chris. Nice video 👍

[@cgaviator]

Thank you kindly!

[@bushwookieplays8629]

Glad to see you back!

[@cgaviator]

You too! :D

[@Danko05]

Welcome back...!!! Great video of a great addon from a great airplane...!!!

[@cgaviator]

Thanks, appreciate it 👍🏻

[@CpnGoose]

This is an amazing plane - JustFlight have done and are doing and amazing job.

[@cgaviator]

Yes and yes!

[@nealjohnson6746]

Great to see you back, and what an aircraft to return with! Surprised you didn't drop the bomb though, you had a good camera angle setup for it, I hadn't thought to do that.

[@cgaviator]

I didn’t realise they would release? Didn’t want to upset any virtual villagers! 😂

[@1943L]

Nice to have you back Chris. Settled in? I remember driving up the A68 above Corbridge, on route to Scotland. 1968 ish, when it suddenly went dark and this triangular shape flashed by followed by the might roar of those engines. A moment to remember.

[@cgaviator]

Thanks, and just about! Must have been a hell of a sight!

[@tomboH82]

Cool you're back. Just getting into Msfs and been religiously watching your vids. Particularly love the low level navving ones. Got the Epsilon TB30, love it, trying to really learn it well before hopefully moving to something faster. Be nice if you did another vid in that, PFL!?!

[@cgaviator]

I did a PFL video in the PC21, should read across quite well. The TB30 is good but make sure you upgrade to turboprop. That said, just strap into the F14 and have at it! 😅

[@tomboH82]

Yeah watched that vid on the pilatus, DLd the TB30 op manual but PFL diagram confused me(non pilot). On to the Tucano or Pilatus maybe, but intimidated by the all digital cockpits so maybe the Tuc!! Keep up the great work!

[@cgaviator]

@@tomboH82 the MSFS Tucano isn’t the UK version. It’s an ok effort but short of the very high standards in this sim. Best thing to do when learning is take one thing at a time. Either learn the start up, or just have the engines already running and learn the tacan, engine instruments, or whatever takes your fancy.

[@tomboH82]

@@cgaviator Ok cheers, didnt learn start up for Eps but will defo before i move to something else, pilatus I think based on what you say on Tuc. Pilatus is basically the Texan??Always liked the Harrier so maybe that but F14 of all the American AC has a bit of class(and a bit Tornadoey?)!!

[@mactgnr]

That was a great vid Chris; I was putting off getting this aircraft as I don't really like mil jets in MSFS but looks like a challenge that might actually be worth purchasing and more importantly learning!

[@cgaviator]

I guess ‘classic’ aircraft are always welcome! 🤗

[@Retset]

Fantastic to see you back. I don't have the Vulcan but that did not stop this from being another very enjoyable cgaviator video!

[@cgaviator]

Kind of you to say… no temptation to get it?

[@Retset]

@@cgaviator Of course there is! I just play so many games atm that MSFS gets barely a look in. The Hawk T1 and Spitfire Mk XIV both need to be properly mastered when I next get properly back into FS. I so enjoyed the Vulcan video though as a sort of pilot's view documentary on an aircraft that always fascinated me at airshows as a kid. Not sure how you overcame the archaic 'HSI': It threw me each time as I was (barely) working out how you were intercepting a radial etc.!

[@cgaviator]

@@Retset guess work! lol

[@TheStellalegs72]

good to see you back :D

[@cgaviator]

Appreciate it!

[@SkjoldrUK]

Awesome Video as always.

[@cgaviator]

Thanks again!

[@nicholaswakelen5600]

Brilliant to have you back, Excellent would love to see a mass scramble like they use to perform at air shows…..

[@cgaviator]

Hmmm… a quick start, I like that idea! Thanks

[@MrAlseas]

Beautiful left bank right over my house at the end of Warton runway. I'm lucky to get stunning views of the Typhoons and Hawks doing a lot of touch and go's - wish I could see a Vulcan overhead though! I remember them fondly from the air shows.

[@cgaviator]

Great place to live!

[@harryballer4239]

Amazing as always. Great vid

[@cgaviator]

Thanks, appreciate it 👍🏻

[@cornishbuddha]

Seriously chapeau to you. Great video 👌

[@cgaviator]

Thanks, appreciate it 👍🏻

[@Tonymason762]

Great video! Thanks

[@cgaviator]

Appreciate it 👍🏻

[@Simple-Flight-Simulation]

Hey Chris!! What a great video... somehow the YT algorithm showed me your channel and I'm glad it did. Looking forward to watching through all your content. 😁👏🏼👏🏼👍🏼

[@cgaviator]

Well your user tag suggests you should absolutely check out some more videos! 😁 And thanks, always appreciated 👍🏻

[@olifjc]

Loving the Vulcan, was hoping you would be making a video like this as its exactly the sort of thing I've been doing in the Vulcan! Maybe a scramble could make for a good video? Or a video following a military instrument approach procedure in a bigger aircraft? Either way, great to see you back making videos

[@cgaviator]

Thanks for the comment. Great suggestions!

[@russellharris5072]

Great to have you back...................................................

[@cgaviator]

Thanks, it's nice to know I've been missed!

[@banzer7784]

Yeah! The long-awaited return of Cgaviator! 🥰

[@cgaviator]

I don’t think there was much ‘awaiting’ 😂 but happy to be back!

[@banzer7784]

For me there was, hope to see your next video soon. Maybe about the new Heatblur/India Foxt Echo F-14🤞

[@cgaviator]

@@banzer7784 I will have to play with the F14 but I’ve just found the F111! So much to play with, so little time! 😅

[@banzer7784]

Nice plane too! The big brother of the F-14. I'll be waiting to see it in action 🤩 Best wishes for a very merry Christmas! Thanks for your time, fly safe and see ya 🤙

[@cgaviator]

@@banzer7784 SEEEEEEYUUUH!

[@Back2TheBike]

I left Warton in 1999 after 21 years. It was a treat to wander outside to see what was occurring. Anything from Canberras, Lightning, Jaguar, Hawk, Tornado or Typhoon might whistle in low. Your Vulcan would have been good to see too. I'd recommend Dave Eagle's 'Testing Tornado' if you'd like an insight into test flying in that period. On his retirement flight in Tornado he made a rather loud bang and blew out the windows on the local greenhouses.

[@cgaviator]

Awesome! Always go out with a bang! 💥

[@CambsPilot]

We have included a basic animation for the droppable/launchable payloads, including the Blue Steel. Those can be triggered using either the bomb release button on the left side of the throttle quadrant or the jettison switch on the left side console. Martyn - Just Flight

[@cgaviator]

Hey, sorry I missed that! I shall (literally) do a reattack! 😁

[@vintagesimulations]

Great to see you're back =) I really missed your videos! As always you make it look easy =) So far, I've only fooled around with the Vulcan, but it's awesome, probably one of the best aircraft in the sim so far! For video suggestions, I would really love to see you fly an airshow display with the Vulcan and also try out the Heatblur F-14, I'm sure you're going to enjoy that one too.

[@cgaviator]

I’m looking into the F14. Some more time required to get acquainted I feel! Need to do it justice 👍🏻 And thanks 🙏🏻

[@vintagesimulations]

@@cgaviator looking forward to it =)

[@DCSHacks]

Like a comfortable pair of slippers Sir! Welcome back!

[@cgaviator]

Indeed... now where's my pipe!

[@Lakedistrictrider]

I'm based in Lancaster. The valley you flew down from Lancaster is the Lune Valley, following the River Lune, and the 'M6 pass' is actually called the Lune Gorge. Just some friendly local info. Nice to see a flight over this area :)

[@cgaviator]

Hey, thanks, good to learn something new!

[@Lakedistrictrider]

No worries:)

[@VoicefulRiver]

I'm a sucker for anything with a delta-wing. Any video with the Vulcan will be greatly enjoyable.

[@cgaviator]

True about delta wings, they are fantastic looking!

[@pereraronshi]

Awesome! Thanks for the great content. Would be cool if you could show the autopilot / glide option for ILS

[@cgaviator]

Where's the fun in that!? lol - but I believe, as I had it setup (glideslope not height on the FD panel) and glide on the AP panel, should work.

[@malcolmentecott536]

That was great Chris! Single handedly flying a Vulcan! I had a go on the virtual aerospace sim near Stockport and as you say, it's really not designed for seeing out of at low level, you really have to crane your neck to see anything outside but for the size of it, it's remarkably agile. I'm sure the villagers of Lancaster will forgive your slight by having a Vulcan fly over them at 200ft!

[@cgaviator]

As a younger civilian I remember seeing a Harrier at low level over Leeds city centre! Would loved to know how he made it there! lol

[@malcolmentecott536]

That reminds me of when I was stuck in a boring office job in Swinton near Manchester. A cloudy day and all of a sudden a fighter jet appeared from nowhere. We were all stood at the window watching this beautiful thing fly around, trapped it seemed under the low level clouds but then a tiny glimpse of blue sky appeared and this thing just saw it, headed towards it, stood on its tail and disappeared. You can imagine how us poor sods felt at the sight of pure freedom!

[@Lynxsh14d]

Good to see you back in the virtual skies Chris!! Really missed your flights. Hope you will do some flights in the soon to be released F-111. That would be awesome. And happy holidays🎄 of course .

[@cgaviator]

F-111 what now!? Which dev? I’ll go see because that would be awesome. More swing aircraft the better imo! 😁

[@Lynxsh14d]

@@cgaviator GKS released their F-111 today i heard😁

[@cgaviator]

@@Lynxsh14d 😆

[@colin5577]

Yay. The Isle of Man as well. Lovely. I live there and the flying school just reopened so I’ll be flying there from January.

[@cgaviator]

Awesome! I used to fly there frequently from Valley on Hawk T1 instrument training. Didn’t get to see much of it sadly 😅

[@vivahenry]

Welcome back Chris 🙂

[@cgaviator]

Thanks 🙏🏻

[@LCTRgames]

Glad to see you making videos again - excellent as always. Wondered if you were interested in the new F16 from Heatblur / IFT?

[@cgaviator]

Eh, what!? I’m so out of the loop! I think I’ll have my hands full with the Tornado releases!

[@LCTRgames]

@@cgaviator F14! typo :) Only just released, looks like one of the best msfs fast jets. Even has the Jester rio system from DCS (and he still likes pulling his eject handle :X)

[@mr.s5333]

Warton is my home airfield, and i usually take off from there for a bit of added realism. Nice to see you flying in the area.

[@cgaviator]

There’s not much of the UK I haven’t flown! 😅

[@mr.s5333]

@cgaviator Well, next time you're around Warton, watch out for a Typhoon that seems out of control and a danger to be near, that'll probably be me!

[@axeman3d]

All over the buttons like a French accordion player trying to navigate and fly this thing. An amazing model.

[@cgaviator]

Lmao, that's one way of putting it!

[@airbornerookie5806]

Hey Chris so good to have you back creating content hope you are well. I have been waiting for you to do a Vulcan I thought it was enevitable that you would, I have the Vulcan but have not delved into it yet as time is limited. I Know in the justflight manual there is reference to a vulcan airshow display I would love to see you re-create that. and I hope you have a great christmas

[@cgaviator]

Thanks! And I have been reviewing the 2015 sequence. Seems straight forward enough. Something to dabble with over Christmas 👍🏻

[@airbornerookie5806]

I look forward to seeing it And any time you want to do anything in the Hawk or MB339 is always helpful, also be interested to see what you can do with the F14 , have a great christmas thanks for what you do.@@cgaviator

[@Cli4D_Designs]

Welcome back!!

[@cgaviator]

Thanks, I see you’re still working hard on the sceneries! Looks ace, will have to visit in my free time 👍🏻

[@Cli4D_Designs]

@@cgaviator yes sir. I decided to get serious about it haha. Please let me know if you want to check them out.. no string attach. I just want you to try it and get an opinion. Again.. nice to see you back. I always rely on your videos for my tutorials..

[@1039king]

Most excellent Chris, so far 25 mins into the sortie and now have a better idea of the auto pilot. If you could add to the bucket list, id love to see you do the 2015 Kev Rumens Riat display please? No on with the sortie as ive not yet work out the chute on mine.

[@cgaviator]

Thanks, glad it’s useful! I may have a go at the display as I do love to throw aircraft around! Have to admit, I set my chute to automatic! 😂

[@liortaylor5305]

Amazing!

[@cgaviator]

Thanks 🙏🏻

[@johncorben7725]

Thanks for your time in preparing and presenting this and all your other videos. Do you use a VR headset and if so which one?

[@cgaviator]

My pleasure! I use TrackIR

[@skinnyTheCat]

Very nice video Chris! & welcome back! :) This bird I probably to much for me, hahaha.. But fun & exciting to watch, and as the previous said, you make it look so easy! Ha! Not for me.. ;)

[@cgaviator]

There’s a reason I started from the runway with engines running! 😂 After that I just needed to get my head around the nav equipment! 😳

[@skinnyTheCat]

:) @@cgaviator

[@stinger16v14]

Welcome back 👋

[@cgaviator]

Thanks! Glad to be back!

[@hhnf103]

Welcome back! How about re-enacting the Dams raid with this Avro instead of the Lancaster?

[@cgaviator]

There’s an idea! Thanks

[@keithrobson8649]

Interesting. Landing at Teesside Airport was appropriate. Brought back memories,as a small child, of watching Vulcans in anti flash white paint flying low over our house whilst doing circuits at what was RAF Middleton St George ( now Teesside Airport ) Middleton St George was not a home base but was used as a dispersal base to be used in case of emergency.

[@cgaviator]

Wow, better to be lucky than good! I knew Teeside used to be military, the old air traffic tower is a dead giveaway! 😅

[@stephenmckinnell7791]

I think the Flight Director system might be made by Smiths Industries. It reminds me of similar ones in the Air Bridge ‘Vanguards’ that I flew in 1988. There were rules that you had to set it by (Pitch Up/Sense Across type thing), follow those religiously and ‘don’t think too much about it’ seemed to work! 😊

[@stephenmckinnell7791]

Lucky guess, I was right…from Wikipedia. “The B.1 had a Smiths Mk10 autopilot.[105] In the B.2, these features were incorporated into the Smiths Military Flight System (MFS)”

[@cgaviator]

All just a suitable system of levers, gears and 1s and 0s! 😅

[@UkDave3856]

That HSI is bonkers isn’t it. It makes me think that after WW2 they were still deciding on a standardisation format for aeroplane instruments, and they thought this design would stick

[@cgaviator]

Absolutely! I like needles and numbers in the 12 o clock when everything is ok! I think in the sea king helicopter they actually mounted the gauges wonky to make this happen.

[@andyladds374]

You and another pilot working together would be good/interesting, specially on a military style flight plan.

[@cgaviator]

Definitely need a shared cockpit!

[@JGE_DK]

First off : It's so fantastic to see you back in the skies again!! 😃 Second : I simply love the Just Flight Vulcan!! 🥰 And yes, even though I started with saying that it "was like wrestling a blue whale", I now stand corrected, as I started by disrespecting "her", and I'm very sorry for that. 🥺 But I'm happy to say, that I've learned to mind my manners. 😇 The lesson : Treat a lady with respect - and she'll be much more cooperative. 😄👍😉 Ideas for videos? Well, I would definitely be happy to watch your take, on the Vulcans airshow display. 🥰 And maybe a "demo" of, what a "authentic" long range bombing mission would look like? 🤔 That was all. 😃 See you skyside, good Sir. 😉 *P.S. Why do I almost feel like saying "Pssssst...... It is I! Leclerc!!!"?? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@cgaviator]

Thanks! And yes, I treat all the aircraft I fly as individual characters. Even different tail numbers if the same aircraft can react differently in little ways. Usually speed or the ability to handle higher alphas.

[@Ray33416]

Hey welcome back! can you explain the 5 degree decent rate part. I get you have to multiply 15,000 ft by 2 but where does the 5 come from?

[@cgaviator]

The 5 is technique but a sensible rule of thumb. Much steeper and your throttles will be idle, any shallower and you'll take forever. Hope that helps.

[@paulcrocker7347]

Its refreshing to see a Pilot like yourself take this old girl through its paces again ! I love this Aircraft, I found the AP at times bit temperamental, ..Chris two Q's, Firstly; how are you getting these popup maps on screen etc.. Secondly; I cant get Tacan to show up on LNM, is this a subscription ? ...Enjoy your flights always, Cheers Happy Travels !!

[@cgaviator]

AP seemed to work as advertised apart from having to recycle the Track that one time. The map overlay is an OBS (video recording) function. As for LNM, they’ve always been there. Is there a filter you can enable for beacons?

[@paulcrocker7347]

Tacans has not worked so far, A search revealed mixed result some mentioned Tacan is enabled if you only have a Navigraph subscription, I dont have.. I've enabled both the VOR and userpoints to show TACAN and nothing enables them, upload the latest data from MSFS and multiple reinstalls it just won't show them. . however I found a global map of TACANs and just reference this instead now but its another app to have open adding workloads.. The AP I've mostly worked out, noticed you have to be established on the ILS before and under the GS before engaging the Glide (user error)..or it goes mental and climbs up at 60⁰ to capture.. thanks for replying, big fan !

[@cgaviator]

@@paulcrocker7347 ah, I do have a navigraph sub so maybe that's it!

[@timpaterson2872]

Absolutely brilliant Chris. Quick question. If your external view, can you hear the howl ?? Thanks very much !

[@cgaviator]

The custom camera angles keep the audio from in cockpit, which is a shame. But you can hear the howl relatively well in cockpit too.

[@timpaterson2872]

One of the best sounds in aviation !!

[@timpaterson2872]

Have a great Christmas

[@cgaviator]

@@timpaterson2872 and you

[@iainbradford4254]

Great stuff, my Uncle was a Nav on these beasts.

[@cgaviator]

Oh, that’s awesome! You must have heard some right good stories! Also, did they have a window at all?

[@iainbradford4254]

I was quite young, so didn't get that much, but did get some stories and a good flypast (part of a SAP trip) when he was at TTTE on Tornados at the beginning.@@cgaviator

[@cgaviator]

@@iainbradford4254 I was at RIAT showing off Tornados with TTTE tails as a historical reference!

[@iainbradford4254]

Nice, I was first Nav not to go through TTTE, but XV(R). However, did display behind a VC10 at RIAT when it was at EGXJ in 2000@@cgaviator

[@cgaviator]

@@iainbradford4254 ah, XV(R), I remember it well! Still remember my first crew solo with a trainee nav, what an experience!

[@Streaky100001]

I guess what I find most difficult is managing speed in the low level. It's so easy to let her get fast, and as you pointed out, if you do that, you've got significantly reduced control authority, particularly in roll, and that's bad when trying to do low level work.

[@Streaky100001]

Also trim, that's the other big one. She takes so much trim work to keep her happy, and if you're out of trim she gets really unstable. I've never found a gauge to tell me my trim position (I'm sure there is one and I'm just blind) which isn't great for setting takeoff trim

[@cgaviator]

It’s all about finding the power setting to keep it stable. 82-85% seems to do the trick 👍🏻

[@Streaky100001]

@@cgaviator Yeah, that makes sense, I have a nasty tendency though to pull turns a wee bit tight, loose some speed, firewall it to avoid a stall, and then forget to pull it back lol

[@burntfaceman1103]

If it's not too long to go into, could you explain something about the decent rate from 30 miles at 15,000 ft. What I didn't quite understand is the 5° decent angle. Is this just the standard decent angle you would use so you know to start decending from that altitude from 30 miles. Or did the altitude and distance you were at dictate the angle needed? Or am I getting this completely wrong aha. Apologies if this seems really obvious and I'm being dense. I am pretty new to flight simulators. Absolutely love your channel by the way, I really admire you're knowledge and experience. I always love seeing Hawks at airshows and find it awesome you have flown and instructed in them!

[@cgaviator]

So you can either adjust descent angle to match the distance you have available to descend. Or pick your preferred descent angle to maximise time spent in cruise (fuel saving). Or you can descend based on time taken. The 5° is a sensible way to go as the range required is twice the altitude. You could go for 7° but then you need to started multiplying by 1.6! Any steeper and you need Airbrake to control speed which isn’t fuel efficient. Aircraft dependent of course. Hope that helps? And I haven’t actually instructed in Hawks, but I have instructed in Tucanos and T38Cs!

[@burntfaceman1103]

@@cgaviator Thank you very much for explaining that! I understand now :) that's awesome you instructed in Tucanos. I play on the xbox and hope we get a good version at somepoint as the current one available doesn't seem to have very good reviews. Also loved seeing those at airshows. Did you mention that you also flew in Tornadoes too? One thing that really got me obsessed with fast jets was watching the Tornado display team do their attack demonstration. We we're at cosford for my first airshow and it had been absolutely miserable weather all day which caused most of the flights to be cancelled, including XH558. I was really disappointed until two Tornadoes came in so fast it frightened the life out of me! Seeing their demonstration really made me empathise/understand how scary and helpless a ground target would feel seeing those two intimidating jets absolutely rip up the sky. Made my day and made up for the rest of the cancelled flights! Eventually got to see XH558 at a few other shows before she was grounded too. All Brilliant aircraft.

[@cgaviator]

@@burntfaceman1103 yup, GR4s. The role demo was epic. I remember being at a press demo where they did a proper show of force. No one blinked and wondered why it would scare the bad guys. So we distracted them with chat until the aircraft came for a reattack! The journalists almost hit the dirt that time! 😂

[@techstepman]

there should have been a Falkland islands addon bundled with this plane.

[@cgaviator]

That’s quite the long haul flight! 😂 Would be nice to have the falklands modelled.

[@itellzzz]

Q Do you think the brake chute should have been a bit bigger 😊

[@cgaviator]

Is that in relation to the real one, or for the real aeroplane it should have been bigger?

[@spatialpro]

When using Altitude hold with the autopilot is it possible to have it use data from the RADALT data rather than barometric altimeter data? 🤔 This would be for low level flights over water (a la Buccaneer) 😉 and perhaps something done occasionally during MRR missions IRL??? 🤔

[@cgaviator]

I didn’t see it in the manual so I would say not. But getting an accurate baro pressure and matching it against the radalt would do the same thing. Did something similar in. The Tornado on a coastal range, changing the altimeter setting to altitude and height matched. Hope that helps.

[@spatialpro]

@@cgaviator Many thanks for your reply. I've gone back and taken another look at the Buccaneer and I now see it had a specific "RADIO ALT" (i.e. RADALT) toggle switch on the Autopilot. This provided a limited over-water RADALT height hold mode, but needed to be continuously monitored (presumably in case a fault occurred, in which case I imagine one would have little time to react before potential disaster).

[@cgaviator]

@@spatialpro it was the same when monitoring TFR in the Tornado. Continually repeating T-Dot-E-Dot-5 lights! Fun times!

[@dbvetter7485]

I have X-Planes Version of Just Flight Vulcan. In X-Plane you can release the bombs and see them explode on the ground. Or use the option to follow them down.

[@cgaviator]

I’m told since making this video (and had I read the manual! 🤦🏼‍♂️) that there is a simple bomb release function

[@dbvetter7485]

@@cgaviator That’s good. I was thinking of getting the MSFS version. But my MSFS install is so buggy, got fix that first.

[@cgaviator]

@@dbvetter7485 shame, my install seems to be working ok, touch wood!

[@Mike-co1fd]

Me again, sorry for all the questions. 😂 Any chance you could send the route you flew here? I was thinking of throwing it into littlenavmap as well and will attempt to fly solely visually. Are there also any Vulcan rule of thumbs with the fuel? For instance, fuel burn per hour for the estimates? Thanks! :) By the way, here's a little potential challenge you can take for a future video, Celestial Navigation!

[@cgaviator]

Celestial! Crikey, that would be bold! I haven’t had time to get my website back online but I’ll try to do it next month. Life is hectic!

[@cgaviator]

And I’m afraid I don’t know about fuel flow off top of my head. But fly it a few times and keep track of fuel, you’ll get a feel for it 👍🏻

[@Mike-co1fd]

@@cgaviator Very bold, in fact, I tried to delve into it but it's honestly too much work, especially for a sim, there's a reason a separate Navigator used to do it! Haha

[@goochygoochoutdoors.1913]

Teesside, my local haunt.

[@cgaviator]

You must see a fair few honey badgers about!? 😅

[@goochygoochoutdoors.1913]

@@cgaviator Yea, they are pinging about, along with the other kit Draken have, have been very active lately.

[@Obi1-KenBone-Me]

How do you navigate at low heights with only a map irl? Its almost impossible to tell areas,points and lines. The only way i can think of its if your entire leg at low level is connected by one big line that ends with an area or a point or you fly entirely by the numbers.

[@cgaviator]

Not impossible, but the features you look for need to be big and obvious. Vertical extent is important as forests and towns look flat from 250ft. Without GPS the turn points need to be nice and obvious. Then it’s about flying the correct wind corrected heading and speed for the right amount of time. Check out my hawk through Scotland or England video for a proper demo of this 👍🏻

[@Obi1-KenBone-Me]

​@@cgaviatorthank you.

[@russellharris5072]

On a less detailed note,I've been doing naughty things with London bridge using EGLC to roughly line myself up,usually from the east.I tried this myself and failed.Perhaps you could use your undoubted skill to do it correctly.Approach the bridge from the east,on approach smoke on.Fly undrer the top span and pull up into a loop which should be so perfect that you terminate said loop under the bridge,smoke off.that is the challenge,can you do it???????????????????????

[@deltawing558]

🤞🏻 for the xbox release tonight

[@cgaviator]

I hope for your sake you’re right!

[@joeds3775]

More pleasa

[@cgaviator]

Lol, you got it! 🙏🏻

[@ollyk22]

So sad that Justflight have announced this will not appear in DCS :-(

[@cgaviator]

Only so many hours in the day I guess, and Just Flight’s niche is definitely MSFS

[@ollyk22]

@cgaviator Yeah I get it. It would be great to see a small company to convert this on license!

[@Jim610]

I'm not sure the fuel burn is accurate. Tried a flight done by many Vulcans from Waddington to Goose Bay and ran out of fuel in the decent each time!

[@cgaviator]

not sure what the distance is vs the Vulcan's range - get some refuelling done along the way!

[@markzzzz741]

Was the in bomb bay ferry tank used for those trips? On Black Buck 1 the fuel burn was more than previously planned. Awkward with all that water below...

[@cgaviator]

@@markzzzz741 that could be it, thanks

[@bbutc]

21:20 The position of the weapon doesn't make any sense because it's half in half out of the bomb-bay where you would not be able to operate the bomb-bay doors as you did at 13:30.?!

[@cgaviator]

Correct, the blue steel missile would not fit in the bomb bay hence they would have had to retrofit it as seen. It’s unrealistic that I swap weapons mid flight.