No Heat Service Repair Birds Eye View

[@HVACRSurvival]

You know what to do if you like it! Hope Everyone Is Doing Great!. Leave Me Some Feedback... Have you prejudged a service call like I did and have it slow you down?

[@travisjude3230]

Instablaster.

[@jimbass924]

Excellent attention to detail finding potential problems!

[@reanthereeran]

My absolute favorite unit to clean a flame sensor on especially in an upflow application! Everytime I walk up to one of these I know it's going to be a project just to do that!

[@HVACRSurvival]

I hear ya 👍👍

[@tptm100]

That title Birds Eye View should have been the give away, great video

[@HVACRSurvival]

Yep, clues are everywhere 😉

[@dl7279]

Great troubleshooting! Good tip on getting the sensor out. That furnace is such a pita to work on

[@HVACRSurvival]

It can be but they have a couple worse ones 😱. The ignitors in some are near impossible to get out

[@throttlebottle5906]

when you have plugged lines like that, try hitting them with leaf blower first, it may blow out whatever is in the pipe lol but I'd go look outside first from a distance, since I once seen a 30' run solid with active yellow jacket nest! that could have been a very bad day had I went fiddling and poking before looking!

[@hvacrredneck6216]

Good catch actually. Love the way you step back and re-access.

[@HVACRSurvival]

Thanks man! I do miss up sometimes then I have to run through all the possibilities till I figure it out.

[@sonycrack1]

Wednesday’s are the best day to upload new videos.....friggin birds man

[@HVACRSurvival]

It was as soon as I could get it done LOL maybe I'll try Wednesdays and Saturdays depending if I have enough video.

[@bradmironik6137]

Sad for the birds but good glad you found the issue. I never installed the vent with any screen for the reasons you mentioned. Trane's flush mount sidewall or any concentric kit seems to help.

[@sparky3869]

I have the same light as you and I love it

[@hkhsm359]

Nice job and grat knowledge. Probably the first I will do what you did. Because mostly issue with them as you think. And for bird andcape; mostly I will put 4 sticks at the end. 2 of them horizontal and 2 vertical.

[@HVACRSurvival]

Thank you for the feedback, sounds like it would work to me. 👍👍

[@3amigos99630]

That was amazing video great job Troubleshooting.

[@HVACRSurvival]

Thank you amigo 😉👍👍

[@instrumenttech4220]

I agree with the whole trouble shoot

[@HVACRSurvival]

Thanks man 👍👍

[@EverythingHVACR]

Great video. I have done the same thing! A bird screen is always a good idea and save you some time in the long run. Keep up the good work!

[@HVACRSurvival]

Bird screen will create a no heat call generally up in my area of ohio. The moisture will cause the screen to freeze shut in super cold climates and block the vent LOL. Probably works fine down south. Now I have had them build the cage way out and around it and that sometimes works.

[@EverythingHVACR]

@@HVACRSurvival good call, I have not seen them freeze up but I'm further south than you in Louisville.

[@HVACRSurvival]

Yeah I'm an hour and 30 minutes from Michigan. Sometimes it can get down to zero that's when you'll have it happen the most.

[@shifter8207]

Great catch on the birds

[@HVACRSurvival]

Thanks man 👍👍

[@markcee925]

My furnace was down called our regular service co.so he checks the thermostat asked me for AA batteries changed them it started right up charged me $160.00 and left. So first thing check the batteries in the theromstat

[@kevinfountain3980]

Great troubleshooting

[@HVACRSurvival]

Thanks Kevin 👍👍🤜🤛

[@sterlingarcher46]

Nice job 👍 I have the Milwaukee light too , I agree the battery life isn't great but you gotta treat it as a quick usage light , not for a long job . You gotta give it to them though , for the size of it it's pretty bright and practical , but small size is gonna mean short battery life , the Bosch light has a more sizeable battery that's why it lasts longer . I also use both brands , but I gotta admit , when it comes to led lights , I think Milwaukee are the best on the market , especially since they're the only ones offering the yellowish light that doesn't blind you or wash out colours .

[@HVACRSurvival]

I wish Bosch would have kept up the new tools but it's not happening. Your right man, I have the 1.5k and 3k lum Milwaukee lights off I need them. They are bad ass at night and in bad spots without power.

[@sterlingarcher46]

@@HVACRSurvival yeah over here I can only get Milwaukee tools online and they're very expensive compared to what you guys get them for ( I guess cause it's imported maybe ) , but if I could I'd get all of them lights !

[@Ted_E_Bear]

Rick you are the man !!

[@HVACRSurvival]

😉

[@ronaldclark8187]

Good call. The meter got it. You know,trust but verify. Ha!

[@HVACRSurvival]

🤜🤓✋, 🤣🤣🤣 thanks 4 watching Ronald 👍👍

[@yellowcake1320]

Nice.....methodical, thorough.....curious how many people will bitch about the clamp on vent. Same people who get hit by cars because the sign said "walk" if you know what I mean. Come to Canada......I need help, and our beer is delicious

[@adamcraig1568]

Definitely a real world problem lol. Already ran into a few pressure switch faults. It’s never the switch 😂

[@HVACRSurvival]

That wasn't the case 6 years ago when I worked for a premier Lennox dealer. (That's what lead me down the wrong path 🙈) Otherwise I agree it's not normally the switch.

[@STO21NE]

@@HVACRSurvival those damn Costa Rica switches lol

[@HVACRSurvival]

@@STO21NE you are absolutely correct I will never forget them.

[@richardkirts7298]

I was always taught to use a small brass brush on all flame sensors and metal ignitors.

[@HVACRSurvival]

Brass is a soft metal, I like my small stainless brush because it doesn't leave any residue. Both are likely equal enough for a flane sensor cleaning 👍👍. There both better than sandpaper or the $ bill IMO

[@ryanlockhart2255]

I've used sand cloth on them for years and never had any problems. I dont know why people think it will mess them up lol but everyone has their way of doing things I guess 🤷‍♂️ but i don't think they used sandpaper on this one it looks like someone scraped it with a screwdriver or knife honestly.

[@HVACRSurvival]

@@ryanlockhart2255 if it's sand paper that's practically wore out I don't see a huge issue with it, it's not my preferred method but I just find it's easier to have a fine stainless brush that I can use for more than just one thing and I know it doesn't leave deep grooves in the metal. Those grooves have a tendency to hold impurities that are floating through the air as they're baked onto the metal. That's just my experience; it also depends on what brand you work on. Lennox has always been good about not having flame sensors that glow red when they're in the flame path whereas other brands like Goodman, Bard or the lesser quality ones have a tendency to glow red and those are the ones that I've seen the most issues out of. As you've said to each their own. Thanks 4 your feedback 👍👍

[@ryanlockhart2255]

@@HVACRSurvival Its technically not sand paper per say its sand cloth so it's not as rough as sand paper. I probably should have worded it better lol

[@brennangordon8568]

I like how you go through every step and explain what you’re doing. I learn a lot from your videos. Keep up the good work. Where are you located?

[@HVACRSurvival]

Thank you so much 👍👍. I'm in Ohio

[@justwork_hvac]

Great find.. Thanks for sharing

[@HVACRSurvival]

You welcome man,👍👍. Thanks 4 watching it

[@sknight0391]

Good one. Hitchcock would be proud. 🐦🐦🐦

[@HVACRSurvival]

Lol. Your crazy Shannon 👍👍

[@gregbowman3598]

Good one Rick 👍

[@HVACRSurvival]

Thanks, I'm glad you liked it 👍👍

[@willhvac]

Hey try the Braun folding bar led worklight. I found one at harbor freight. It illuminates the entire furnace. Awesome work light

[@HVACRSurvival]

I own one the battery life isn't that great . The best one I have is the Bosch I just was trying to bleed red. LOL I am a flashlight whore

[@willhvac]

@@HVACRSurvival yea that's the one downfall. Lol I am one too. What's the Bosch your talking about? Have a link?

[@HVACRSurvival]

@@willhvac the 12-volt Bosch LED light, yes I do have a link for it in my everyday carry I believe. They're about 60 bucks I think, minus a battery but they last about eight hours on average on high power

[@willhvac]

@@HVACRSurvival No shit! Are they sold at home depot?

[@donnierobertson3088]

Great job and video like always

[@HVACRSurvival]

Thanks Donnie 👍👍

[@donaldpainter956]

A shop vac set ass blower has always worked good for me to blow the vent pipe out

[@xelaju8]

Great video, How do you know the correct differential pressure that you need it for that furnace? Is it on the cover label.?

[@HVACRSurvival]

From my experience the actual amount the switch will see is sometimes 1.5-2.5 X the rating that's listed on the switch. Usually the switch closes at the rating that you see on the side but that has to be verified by the manufacturer.

[@bigwilliestile2007]

How we use to do it in Michigan we 90 up from the wall went 2 -4 ft up and 90 out from the wall and 45 of the 90 with a screen mesh fitting they sold at our supply house built in for a nice snug fit and for intake 90 from the wall with mesh fitting always worked

[@HVACRSurvival]

The nicest looking thing is a concentric kit. Now this screen that you put on it, was that on the air intake or the exhaust. I'm saying the problem lies when it's put on the exhaust.

[@bigwilliestile2007]

@@HVACRSurvival both

[@bigwilliestile2007]

These ones www.faucetdepot.com/faucetdepot/ProductDetail.asp?Product=192079&AffiliateID=GoogleDirectFeed&gclid=CjwKCAiAtK79BRAIEiwA4OskBjklYgiYGX3Dl-i9iLac0t7IxjF5zHSI8m-QOnmydXeWni-pqIUXOhoCG6oQAvD_BwE

[@bigwilliestile2007]

Or one like this where the screen is easy to remove if the screen rusts out pvcventscreens.com/product/pvs-is4/?gclid=CjwKCAiAtK79BRAIEiwA4OskBuE_e3ygJ9n3b93LEdPxKawQxKanju7dtAoxyYO_hFZfyjGFECgXyhoCL0UQAvD_BwE

[@throttlebottle5906]

flame sensed without valve energized, very likely condensate water in a connection at the passthrough connector or other location like board or flame rod has a conductive bug(not likely lol)

[@HVACRSurvival]

Or it could be I read it wrong because of the shit design Lennox used 🤷‍♂️🤣.

[@throttlebottle5906]

@@HVACRSurvival yeah, I caught that later on lol! plus the unit was inverted from normal, so no chance of that. Now with the blower/controls down below, when they leak and pool in the cabinet it floods the connector or bushing and runs down onto the control board. I have seen them give the flame sensed that way, because it was seeing ac current from being all wet. sizzle sizzle pop snap

[@hvacknowledgechannel1621]

Good finding

[@HVACRSurvival]

Thank you sir 👍👍

[@marinusvangiessen2990]

Just out of curiosity.. that fernco coupling on the exhaust, is it rated and certified to be used like that on 636?

[@HVACRSurvival]

What is 636? We have used them for years on furnaces, the manufacturer uses them to connect the draft motor to the pvc.

[@billj4859]

I think the only other furnace I've had more issues with was Lennox's 80MGF. That thing was a real pos. The only thing it had going for it was that it was easy to maintain and repair

[@HVACRSurvival]

I know that dang thing like the back of my ✋. Lol I even remember the board before I left. 83m00🤣. But the best furnace ever built was the Pulse 🤓

[@DCkondo]

have you used a golf ball from the outside to see if the flue is plugged instead of the fishtape?

[@HVACRSurvival]

No I haven't but that's a interesting idea.

[@tonydelgrego2906]

Yes I have I thought I had a bad condensate pump when the customer called and said they had water on the floor. What I found was the condensate pump was connected to the light .So every time you shut the light you had no power to the pump.

[@HVACRSurvival]

I had something very similar to that, thanks for sharing. 👍👍

[@Eddy63]

Great vid Slick Rick ... I'd give you 3 thumbs up but I only have 2 ... Lol ... Hey to Slick Chic ...

[@HVACRSurvival]

I'll let her know I'm sure she'll love that 😁👍👍

[@donaldpainter956]

A piece of rabbit or chicken wire will keep the birds out and won't effect the flow of the exhaust I've had this problem also

[@j.d.6221]

Birds and the bees lol

[@throttlebottle5906]

a wasp nest sucked clear into the burner box, yeehaw

[@walkingfreak]

I thought i'd hate carriers more than anything but turns out i feckin hate working on lennox because the engineers had their heads jammed so far up their ass when they designed them.

[@harrydickson4575]

👍👍👍

[@HVACRSurvival]

Thanks HD👍👍

[@richardkirts7298]

I would have put a drip leg on it. As wildlife enjoy getting in them.

[@HVACRSurvival]

Your saying basically a "Y" like T

[@joehead1294]

Really cringed when you bent over that tab!

[@HVACRSurvival]

They make more 😁. To be truthful, I cringed a little too.

[@cliveramsbotty6077]

is natural gas just so cheap in america that nobody cares about wasting it? all the gas appliances i see from the usa seem so archaic in terms of efficientcy

[@HVACRSurvival]

That furnace is somewhere between 93% and 95% efficient where are you getting that at from this furnace?

[@philipajarapoo7675]

Cut that exhaust termination at a 45 degree angle. Birds won’t be able to land in there then.

[@HVACRSurvival]

I've never heard of that being the reasoning, I know the refinery uses that type of cut so it won't freeze over. But if that's true I'll continue doing what I've always done

[@prettycureforever7102]

God rest those birds . but seriously why didn't they put like a mesh with holes where nothing but aor can go through? Is that not recommended pr can we still do it

[@HVACRSurvival]

Depending on where you live at, if it gets really really cold like down to the zero mark, the frost that comes from the exhaust can actually freeze over a cage made out of a rabbit wire. Now if you're in southern climates it's not a big deal. But a lot of them people use 80 percent furnaces down in the lower States if not just heatpumps.

[@prettycureforever7102]

@@HVACRSurvival cool thx for the heads up

[@steveblake8766]

#346 thumbs uP

[@HVACRSurvival]

Thanks steveo, you're falling behind on the numbers 🤣

[@steveblake8766]

You're sneaking them in on me. :) That and you're getting more popular!

[@HVACRSurvival]

🤣👍💯. I'm trying!

[@Sctronic209]

Lennox codes suck it’s easy to get side tracked. Lennox always has to be different.

[@HVACRSurvival]

Yes indeed they do. I should have known better because I've worked on Lennox for over 19 of the 25 year's I've been doing this but it's been 6 years since I've been working on them. Oh well crap happens 🤷‍♂️

[@hvacir9176]

1st

[@HVACRSurvival]

Get Sum IR! Boom!!! Getting It DUNN...LOL

[@alskee2010]

Lennox, overcomplicating shit since forever.