No Laughing Matter: Hyenas of Kaimere

[@thejurassicking916]

Guys Kaimere is a distant planet again!

[@TalesofKaimere]

It was a close call

[@frougee]

Crisis averted.

[@MegaDerpyDragon...52]

​@@frougeehe did it! He SAVED the WORLD!

[@seanessdracosaurus2793]

Thank keenan it missed us 😮‍💨

[@dudotolivier6363]

That have always been the case, the intro of the previous 4 episodes about Rare Carnivoran, was a special one just for this mini-series.

[@HagdoBr]

Mr Kennan simply dropped several of the best redesigns ever seen in the series as if it were nothing, I can't believe it.

[@murilocorrea9360]

I love how the Shu view the aardwolf basically as a pokemon lol Great episode as always!

[@TalesofKaimere]

haha thanks! Yeah little guy just needs to eat 40k more termites then he can choose his next evolution!

[@UdinJibral]

Philosopher: so this lil guy (aardwolf) is actually a big guy Biologist: what the faq are you talking about

[@Andrey.Ivanov]

I can't even tell you for how long I've wanted a hyena episode. It's obvious how much you like these animals with the way you give them the respect and justice they deserve, portraying them as successful and versatile animals in your settings. It's really needed in the media landscape which treats them as the bad guys and annoying thieves and scavengers. They are so much more interesting and complex.

[@TalesofKaimere]

Absolutely agree. Wanted to be sure I included the urukideu brown hyena since they are still often (not always) dedicated scavengers, but the clade as a whole is not restricted to this role. They do suffer from a monolith reputation when even in the few surviving species, hyenas of Earth today fill a surprisingly diverse roster of niches.

[@doktorhyena]

Definitely glad you mentioned the strict matriarchy being false in spotted hyenas and applied it to these guys too. Something else you may find interesting is that when brothers or cousins migrate to the same clan together, they often will support each other to the point where they have been seen harassing high-ranking natal hyenas, including females, of the clan they join. This was shown in a study that came out in December of 2022.

[@Skyypixelgamer]

Yeah I’m really glad and genuinely surprised he mentioned that aswell.

[@shingtiong9425]

@@doktorhyena Hey one question I always have about hyenas is why don't males just mate with immigrant females. That way they can still have a higher rank and still pass on their genes.

[@MrAtrox98]

@@shingtiong9425well that’s the thing, female hyenas don’t benefit nearly as much from dispersal. Males do so for increased mating opportunities, but females are the ones that raise cubs and it’s beneficial to do so when she already ranks decently in the clan.

[@diegoquezada3193]

@@shingtiong9425 There are almost no immigrant females, because if a female were to disperse to another clan she would get the lowest rank. She wouldn't get a high rank just because she is female, she would be at the very bottom because she would have no social support being an outsider. Which as well can be disastrous for any offspring she has, as any cub she gives birth to will inherit her rank as well leaving them stuck at the very bottom.

[@AncientWildTV]

@@diegoquezada3193 do you think this social structure influences the genetic diversity of the clan

[@HagdoBr]

0:48 te lions redesgnin are dope, what a incredible piece of yours, Mr. Kennan.

[@TalesofKaimere]

Thank you!

[@MrT_Rex]

I agree

[@dudotolivier6363]

Yep ! Among the majors and notable points to put forward about this episode is the surprising amount of new illustrations of already established species that I and others didn't really expected. Like the 3 lions, the Hyena Bobcat, the Arvelith Moutain Panther (now called Cave Panther), the Cave Hyena or the Fosnu. With the Fosnu's case being a colormorph/variant.

[@smashers6971]

Some random thescelosaur: Hy-hy-hy-hy.. Common Hyena: Well “Hi”to you too!

[@thephilosoraptor8565]

Now I'm imaging a Tsichi or some other tiny cuniculosaur colony singing "Dig a Tunnel" lmaoo

[@redlycan5064]

Some random Thescelosaur's Uncle: This is no time for horseplay. You're supposed to be up there looking out for- *Common Hyenas laughing their way down* Some random Thescelosaur's Uncle: HYENAS!!! *Every Thescelosaur around panics*

[@smashers6971]

@@redlycan5064 Some Random Thescelosaur’s uncle: I flinched when I should’ve scurried…

[@Asell265]

Unrelated but have we heard anything about warthogs being harvested, or any other wild pig being present on the Houze Prairie? Because if not I'm having fun imagining Pumbaa in this scenario as an extremely docile and gassy Na'hashet

[@thephilosoraptor8565]

@@Asell265 Na'Hashet Pumbaa is indeed a hilarious image, but yes, warthogs are indeed present on the Houze Prairie, confirmed in the Pleistocene Africa Harvest video

[@WildlifeWire_SciComm]

Oh wow, thanks for the shoutout and praise, buddy! It's good to know that people appreciate our content, and hopefully the channel grows once we have time to produce more content, but it's obviously difficult with the team spread thin, and Dominic busy running around in the field doing snare checks and carnivore monitoring. We'll see how things look this winter, and don't worry, we haven't forgotten about doing an interview episode with you!

[@TalesofKaimere]

My absolute pleasure! Y'all do incredible work on and off the channel. Least I can do!

[@soudino2723]

sorry for being late but this is easily one of the best videos youve made so far, glad to see hyeanas not being portrayed as villains but as actual animals, also this is easily one of the best redesigns you've made 0:48

[@TalesofKaimere]

Thanks so much!!

[@BigBossMan538]

Hyenas are like bears to me in the sense that they’re dangerous yet friend-shaped

[@TalesofKaimere]

Agreed 100%

[@Pufflizard]

I went on a safari in Tanzania a couple of years ago and one night while I was at a base camp, a hyena was lurking around looking for scraps of food. It was quite an experience.

[@TalesofKaimere]

I believe it! They certainly leave an impression

[@conorgreen9233]

I had a similar experience! Their cackles sent a very primal shiver down my spine. What an incredible experience.

[@Bingus_the_third_esquire]

I just saw some cute spotty dogs out there, they were very cuddly.

[@DavidGlenn-xl6yi]

Glad to see this episode finally got a sponsor. Hyenas are some of my favorite animals

[@TalesofKaimere]

They're so neat!

[@operandwriter]

Mountain Hyena: Welp, I just joined this primate's pack. Better listen to them cause I'm the outsider

[@the_monsterraium]

oh heck yeah, hyena time bois we eating good

[@TalesofKaimere]

Let's go!!

[@the_monsterraium]

@@TalesofKaimere YEAH!

[@andrearossi6953]

Hyenas on earth: hi hi hi hi hi hi hi🤣😂🤣😂🤣 The common hyena: hold my bone🗿

[@sivanlevi3867]

I'm impressed by the hyenas of Kaimere. Many people think hyenas are gross scavengers, but in fact they are socially complex hunters. These creatures practice nepotism, which means a baby hyena inherits the rank of their mother. Matter of fact, statistically speaking, it is actually more common for lions to steal from hyenas rather than the other way around, though it must be said that they are direct competitors who will deliberately kill each other's young to increase their chances. You also mentioned previously that because the hyenas of the mountains are hard to domesticate, the Telmede bred dogs called Hyena Mastiffs to compensate, though the nobility still keep true hyenas. I also want to point out that your Cave Panther, briefly seen among Arvelith steppe predators, looks more like a jaguar than a leopard, so what kind of cat is it? Is it a Panthera at all? Cheers to you, Keenan, thank you for another enlightening episode!

[@diegoquezada3193]

It should be mentioned though, the hyena species you are talking about is the Spotted Hyena specifically, which is one of the 4 currently alive hyena species, the brown and striped hyenas are primarily scavengers, while the 4th species, the aardwolf is an insectivore.

[@verrdantwilds]

One of the very first animals that drew my interest towards Kaimere was the Veraset, so I’m thrilled to see that they’re still canon after all these years! Hyenas are an incredibly underrated animal in comparison to other predators like big cats and wild dogs, and it’s always a delight to see them feature in the many tales Kaimere has to offer! Their diversity is incredibly intriguing! Love to see that the hyenas have enough to fill a half hour video! As always, thank you for bringing your incredible creations to the public eye, keep up the good work!

[@TalesofKaimere]

Absolutely! I'm quite proud of the veraset. Wish I'd had time to give it a fresh illustration since the old art isn't up to my current quality, but the design wouldn't be changed and it is nice to have in a running pose for this particular animal especially. Might not be ideal as a scientific illustration (which should usually be in a more neutral pose to better show anatomy) but sprinting is so important to them that it feels fitting

[@magnolia1253]

Hyenas are one of my favorite carnivorans and are among my favorite animals. Thank you for doing this episode. I really enjoyed it.

[@TalesofKaimere]

My pleasure! They're fascinating animals

[@dynamoterror7077]

Ah hyenas, one of the few feliforms to give dogs a run for their money in the “OMG ADORABLE PUPPY” vibes department. I love the variety of mammals shown off here and especially all the new carnivoran drawings! It feels like you’ve pretty much mastered the look of cats and hyenas, they look so lifelike and *floofy*.

[@TalesofKaimere]

Thank you!!

[@DeerMime]

I like the added detail to the hyena-cockatrice symbiosis. I’ve been intrigued by that since you first mentioned it.

[@singingcrow439]

Spotted hyenas have been one of my favorite animals for a while now. They and lions are my favorite case of two top order carnivores coexisting, be it far from peacefully.

[@alghoulaj7172]

At their size, range and population, hyenas are no laughing matter indeed in Kaimere. Well, that and most of them did manage to establish themselves in one of the most volatile and competitive places, which speaks volumes.

[@delmerputnam1679]

At long last! I’ve been considering sponsoring this episode for a long time, but I’m more than happy someone beat me to the punch!

[@Stooltoad5017]

30 minutes for Hyenas? I never could have asked for anything more. Cheers to Rufus indeed. They are such interesting animals that are much more complex than people give them credit for.

[@vasantmasurekar4826]

Damn Urukideu is really impressive.Is it a Brown Hyena or actually a surviving Pachycrocuta lineage. Its really impressive how Hyenas have survived where more powerful big cats have not. I love Hyenas and its great to see an episode on them. Not to be a spoiler but are we getting a Horses of Kaimere and Mammal Predators of the Southern Tundra episode soon??

[@TalesofKaimere]

Thanks! Hyenas are very cool. Horses are likely covered next year.

[@IanPendleton-gh6ox]

@@TalesofKaimere You have a sponsor for a horse episode!? That would be awesome!

[@Dylan-Hooton]

That's interesting. Cave hyenas of Earth are the same species (and subspecies) as the ones that once lived on Earth (more specifically, in Eurasia). Hopefully, these hyenas will one day be reintroduced to Eurasia, assuming that their natural prey that also once lived on Earth were also reintroduced there.

[@sambeaumont4337]

Are the soldier drones the ancestors of the Maku?

[@TalesofKaimere]

That is a leading theory, yes

[@Ywabag]

Perfect way to kick off spooky month

[@The-recolored-clone3354]

HELL YEAH

[@ianswinford5570]

I love hyenas. They’re so cool, and the ones on Kaimere are just as cool. By the way, me and my friends did a DND campaign recently based on Kaimere. Basically, a group of supernatural beings working for the Assembly on Earth are tasked with investigating potential Homunculi experimentation by a rogue Witch. My character is a crocodile-strain vampire named Silas Braxton.

[@TalesofKaimere]

That sounds incredible! One of the story concepts of a Kaimere RPG is the team working with the Assembly taking care of magic threats. Could work on both Earth and Kaimere.

[@ianswinford5570]

@@TalesofKaimere Thanks. I'm pretty proud of my character Silas. Though, I had to take some liberties with him being a crocodile strain vampire. I had this idea that he could grow scales, strong jaws, conical teeth, and would be a great swimmer.

[@chancegivens9390]

0:48 YOU DONE CHANGED THEM ON ME AGAIN!! AND ITS LOOKS FANTASTIC!!!!!!!! Smart choice adding the pups to the size comparison art! 13:44 The concept of those kinds of predators working together is cool! Especially the Na'hashet. 14:35 Oh hey! I was wondering when we'd hear of this critter! 17:23 Dr. Morau's remains would be rolling around in fury if he realized how easy the convergence from beast to man is on Kaimere! Hahahaha!! 19:25 ooh, that's a handsome beast. 24:05 Now that's a bad mother fucker right there! 27:26 Agreed! Overall, a very good episode! I'd love to see a rhinos of kaimere at some point!

[@The-recolored-clone3354]

Words can not express how intrigued I truly am…

[@leoornstein3963]

The old intro is back. Keenan, does Kaimere have any zoos/sanctuary/ national Park that is protected by the local government? 14:12 Rip my boy Druk, I hope he survived the night 😔

[@levinjoseph233]

The idea of ardwolf growing into either a verasect or common hynea sounds like Pokemon branced evolution Higher speed or attack EVs While they reach level 25 perhaps

[@magnolia1253]

It's actually a pretty common animal myth. Like the Chinese and how they thought dragons evolved. Or native American stories about human souls (dark souls became owls, angry souls became wolves and murderers became skinwalkers)

[@justinianthegreat1444]

Imagine being a dinosaur and you hear hyenas laughing at you as they circle you.

[@joshblackmore3642]

Yes a video about one of my favourite animals

[@takenname8053]

SUPER NICE I love the Wildlife Wire too!

[@TalesofKaimere]

They're such a valuable channel I'm looking forward to their return!

[@CoralReaper707]

Hyenas in general deserve more appreciation

[@TalesofKaimere]

Agreed

[@tec-jones5445]

A great tribute to such successful animals! Be they menace or ally, I love how they've featured in Kaimere. I'll definitely have to check out Wildlife Wire. A great start to Spooktober! I can't wait to see what other terrifyingly awesome beings lurk on this planet.

[@TalesofKaimere]

Hyenas are delightful animals. Studying them the past few years has very much bolstered my fondness of them. I cannot recommend Wildlife Wire enough!

[@derrabbit7289]

Every story of someone bonding with a hyena that I can remember is of one that was male. I remember my grandmother telling me a story of one of the European settlers of Southern Africa finding a hyena pup and raising it, he said it behaved a lot like a cat.

[@schizoolander]

Giggle doggos with bite force that can tear off elephant’s leg

[@The-recolored-clone3354]

15:44 veraset’s head still looks like It can crush bone

[@SanderVF]

Okay that image of a Nahashet and its hyena buds creeping up on a person at the fireplace is creepy as hell. I, for one, am glad that Kaimere, with all the nope shit that lives on it, is a distant planet.

[@chronicallyconfused3766]

LET'S GO!!! Dedicated hyena video!

[@thespecialedwards2133]

Also I'm still a supporter of a mini series about almost unchanged kaimere animals

[@The-recolored-clone3354]

So satisfying how my fav hyena species is The largest one in this planet.

[@Zekeriyasenturk6513]

Rivals or enemies of Lions are in magical Planet,Keenan i Love your project :)

[@ananslator3655]

I have an idea on what you can do for October.perhaps a couple of videos from the prospective of Kaimereins being staked and or hunted by Kaimeres terrifying creatures whether it be by land,sea,lake,river or air.

[@shingtiong9425]

This video has some of the best art you ever did imo. My favourite being the blond morph of the blue cockatrice and the ginger cave hyenas, why is it even ginger anyways? Also finally someone mentioned the hyena misconception, one thing I never get is why don't male hyenas just mate with immigrant females. I like how all human hair colours are present in every hyena species, ginger, blond and brunettes. You don't mind I use my own hyenas red now do you because how beautiful your cave hyenas are.

[@dudotolivier6363]

1) It was really an amazing episode as always ! With both many info about well-known and even icons species as old than when this spec evo world stated and new, surprise species that made they start in this episode ! And overall a very good episode about Hyenas as a whole giving a lot of recognition to the creatures they are in real real. 2) Now that the species inhabiting the immediate Known World and close areas beyond have been covered, I now very excited to see what the future will show for the hyenas species living far north Ni'Khar and on Kairul ! 3) The Aardwolf is still the exact same species (Proteles cristatus) than the one we have on Earth, right ? And which came from the Pleistocene North Africa Harvest around 255-248 kya ago, making itt he youngest and most recent arrival of the hyenas on Kaimere. Right ? 4) Is the fact that the Common Hyena came from Kairul after its ancestor pass a period of time on it after migrating there from the Known World after introduction, then came back to the Known World again, still hold up as piece of lore ? And with the Na'haset entelodont, also coming from Kairul by the same migration into the Known World, having a greyish sin with dark stripes on its body mimicking the pattern of the Common Hyena due to their relationship also still canon too ?

[@TalesofKaimere]

1. Thanks! 2. Got some relevant episodes on the horizon that will offer some insight! 3. Might get its own species designation I'm not sure. They haven't had to deviate and it's only been 250kya so might just be the same species. Definitely their own subspecies though. 4. If I understand your question correctly: yes. They were introduced to Kaimere between 12 and 10 million years ago, went to Kairul 8 million years ago, then came back to Ni'Khar half a million years ago or so. And yes, their skin mimics hyenas because they have now shared habitat for 8 million years.

[@dudotolivier6363]

@@TalesofKaimere You understand well my question, thank you :)

[@1998topornik]

Among these designs I probably like urukideu design the most. It probably didn't have good time when marine bears were still present in Pakardia.

[@TalesofKaimere]

Indeed they are really neat! Had a lot of fun with their fur

[@Taste-k7q]

Which is more dominant on Kaimere, dinosaurs or mammals?

[@TalesofKaimere]

Depends on the niche, but since dinosaurs get far larger, I'd say dinosaurs

[@rylanbrewer3320]

How many canids were on the ni khar Savana before the houze take over

[@TalesofKaimere]

Don't have a full species list but probably twice as many as are around today, so maybe 6-8?

[@rylanbrewer3320]

@ one of them was oracyon and maybe subspecies or populations of extant animals

[@ewaszot1243]

hey Kean, how are you feeling now that we found the mummified Scimitar cat a full month after you redesign theme

[@TalesofKaimere]

Honestly pretty good! Might make some minor tweaks, but from what I understand it is informative only that some juveniles of one of the many species can have any major inferences made from it. Is helpful and of course very exciting, but folks making scaled up copies of the cub as adults are likely not to stand the test of time.

[@seanessdracosaurus2793]

Awesome

[@ThylcoleoRaptor-b4n]

Hyenas are my favourite animals

[@TalesofKaimere]

I love 'em!

[@The-recolored-clone3354]

14:32 chee-tina or high-yeeta?

[@maozilla9149]

nice video

[@TalesofKaimere]

Thanks!

[@maozilla9149]

@@TalesofKaimere your welcome

[@praetorianrex5571]

Question: how could one convey endurance in creature design?

[@TalesofKaimere]

I'd start by looking at animals like humans, camels, and wolves known for their endurance. Long legs aren't actually that necessary for speed (hippos and brown bears are a famous example) but do help a lot with stride efficiency. Camels are fast, but they really shine in how few calories they burn while walking. Humans too. You probably want something with long legs and a light body. Bulk is often wasted on something specialized for endurance. All that said: these are trends. Wolverines are also really good with endurance iirc, and they aren't built as I just described.

[@InnahaNyellaV]

Questions? 1. Is the Mountain panther and cave panther different species? 2. Will their be redesigns for the arvelith wolf, and homotherium? 3. Is this Mosbach Lion a female of the current species show in the Big Cat episode?

[@TalesofKaimere]

1. Yes! Will be 3 distinct species of mountain leopard. 2. No, but only because I don't have time/budget. Neither design is bad but like the sulan could definitely use a polish. 3. Nah it's also a male. Old design was also fine this was just me making an improvement since I didn't really like that pose and it was rushed when I first drew it.

[@InnahaNyellaV]

Got it

[@simonpitt4632]

15:26 PoKeMoN

[@TalesofKaimere]

Haha pretty much!

[@Reyma777]

Was the mentioned Homotherium a social species? I figured a lone cat would be overly vulnerable to hyena kleptoparasitism, especially when it lacks the size of the Cave Lion.

[@TalesofKaimere]

The Homotherium of southern Arvel is very social

[@TalesofKaimere]

Not as socially complex or intelligent as hyenas, but live in groups of 5-12

[@Reyma777]

@@TalesofKaimereI guess 1v1 the Homotherium would have advantage against an hyena [except maybe the Urukideu] due to grappling ability and size ?

[@Stooltoad5017]

What do the Pakardiant think of the Urukideu? I can’t imagine it’s particularly positive, and may very well be just another brute Indrakai has to overcome, but I’m curious nonetheless.

[@TalesofKaimere]

It’s often negative but not as much as wolves. Yes, hyenas eat corpses, but wolves kill people. In some factions hyenas are actually revered as helping dead bodies be taken care of

[@rylanbrewer3320]

It’s seems that a lot of still extant species had populations or subspecies on the pre houze prairie

[@TalesofKaimere]

Indeed. While there was a lot of turnover, it must be said that it wasn't an absolute change. An important bit of nuance to keep in mind.

[@dudotolivier6363]

@@TalesofKaimere I hope we will have one day a episode focused on the Pre-Houze Prairie biome, it's natural hsitory during the Anchored Period, the general fauna which inhabited it, and what are the survivors which maanged to adapt to the Houze Prairie and the ones which remain on the small portion spared by the Houze Prairie at the western cresent. It would be a really interesting topic to talk about.

[@rylanbrewer3320]

@@TalesofKaimere we can ad oracyon and pachycrouta to the species on the pre houze nikhar serengeti

[@rylanbrewer3320]

@@TalesofKaimere how come so many still extant animals like toxodon pachycrouta and aurochs have populations or subspecies on nikhars Pre houze prarie and I thought borohagiens were ambush predators I didn’t think they would like open spaces

[@rylanbrewer3320]

I wonder what a pre houze prairie episode would be title

[@bmw895]

Darn these guys are scarier than wild dogs, laughing as they kill you

[@ianswinford5570]

In Middle Eastern mythology, hyenas are often associated with ghouls. And given that the First Children used hyenas for Homunculi, I assume that Kaimere also has ghouls?

[@TalesofKaimere]

They certainly have analogous stories! Hyenas showing up after most battles to feed on the dead certainly contributes to their association with the afterlife and war

[@ianswinford5570]

@@TalesofKaimere I'm picturing Kaimeran soldiers patrolling their camps at night and seeing the silhouettes of hyenas and maybe even a few humanoid figures roaming the battlefields to eat the dead. I'd be shaking in my armor!

[@francogiobbimontesanti3826]

How are humans treated by kaimerians? How did the first encounter go?

[@TalesofKaimere]

First encounter was when humans were harvested from North America 10 kya. They integrated with various Kaimerans, mostly in Arvel and Pakardia. Kaimerans first came to Earth in the Bronze Age

[@NP3GA]

Yeaaaaah boy, that's what we been waiting for, wwwwww.

[@lorcanmcloughlin3686]

Still sad we got no gorrilas

[@patrickshaw5746]

I do kinda wish that the mountain hyena could be domesticated despite there being a very good reason that they aren't. It would be interesting to have a counterpart to dogs that comes from a different branch of the carnivoran tree. I wonder if a similar process of domestication is possible for the mountain hyena. If certain wild individuals are friendlier towards people they would, in theory, be rewarded with food while problematic individuals are not and may be outright killed. Over time this could lead to a friendlier population popping up around certain areas that people live in and be the first steps towards true domestication. I find that theorized process incredibly interesting and I think it would be super cool to see at a more intermediate stage.

[@CrazyFlamingGaming]

How do Harakundi and Na'hashet benefit from working with hyenas? Is it similar to the relationship Urukideu have with wolves?

[@TalesofKaimere]

Harkundi and Na’Hashet both have better hunting success with hyenas so that’s their benefit

[@singingcrow439]

How do you come with names for your animals?

[@TalesofKaimere]

Make them up. Usually try to build them to sound similar to existing vocab in a given language.

[@The-recolored-clone3354]

MY 3RD FAV ANIMAL?!?!?!?!?!1!1

[@davidegaruti2582]

What do you mean hyenas can subsist on lizards and bugs ? Do striped hyenas today do that ?

[@TalesofKaimere]

It's certainly not a common practice, just something done in desperation. Just said it to highlight how generalist and versatile they are. They will always choose larger game if given the chance

[@liambrandley2716]

Has any other creature from kairul spread as far across the known world as the common hyena?

[@thedarkmasterthedarkmaster]

Darn what happened to those Soldier Drones? I know many creations of the first children declined due to design issues, but I find it hard to see the flaws in a creature that has the intelligence and opposable thumbs of humans and the jaw strength of a hyena

[@TalesofKaimere]

Let’s just say the Maku aren’t entirely human

[@canonbehenna612]

Have you heard the first teaser for talon is out

[@TalesofKaimere]

What is talon?

[@canonbehenna612]

@@TalesofKaimere talon is an upcoming series about a young Dakotaraptor with special abilities journey to find 8 other campions and masters to stop an upcoming war between them and a alien invasion Think land before time with some avatar mixed in

[@Lurtz848]

how would the urukideu fare on arvel or ni'khar?

[@TalesofKaimere]

As there is likely a related species on both continents: they'd do alright, though common hyenas monopolizing both the predator and the scavenger role at their kills is definitely a problem, as are large theropods. Brown hyenas don't exclusively scavenge, but they do it a lot more often, and when discussing species success, a trend can be really important.

[@The-recolored-clone3354]

22:46🥇🥈 🧍‍♂️ 🥉

[@alejandroelluxray5298]

So, if the prairie hyenas have a preference for horses (and presumably antelopes, too), what are the prey preferences of the forest and mountain hyenas? As for the cave hyena, is it common for them to target the wooly beraphaunt of the steppes? Being this the equivalent of wooly rhinos of Earth, which was a common prey for Earth's cave hyenas. Also, what kind of horses live on the Arvelith steppes?

[@TalesofKaimere]

Mountain hyenas prefer takin and wild horses. Forest it really depends since forest in Kaimere has so much variety. They are most common in Titan gardens and tend to favor large deer in those environments

[@praetorianrex5571]

Hey Keenan i showed you the Consecrated Tiger my friend and I worked on for months. Please tell me what you think of it. 🙏

[@praetorianrex5571]

So a rule in Kaimere is that anything on Kaimere that looks like something from our fossil record is very unlikely to be directly related?

[@rylanbrewer3320]

What does veraset mean in kaimerean

[@The-recolored-clone3354]

Do golden and brown-morph stripe hyenas exist on earth?

[@TalesofKaimere]

No, but keep in mind these are not particularly close to striped hyenas, just resemble them because that's likely the ancestral coloration of hyenas. Snow leopards, leopards and jaguars aren't sister taxa but all have something similar to the ancestral Panthera coloration and pattern. Striped hyenas have a range of grey, brown, and gold undertones but it's not nearly as pronounced as these guys. Mostly they are blond with very dark brown stripes

[@Discussr]

I apologise if i misunderstand but is the common hyaena more closely related to striped hyaenas or are they derived from the ancestors of spotted hyaenas?

[@Andrey.Ivanov]

It's unclear exactly, but if it came from that Miocene harvest than its likely derived from something close to the common ancestor of striped, brown and spotted hyenas. So not particularly close to any specific one of them, but closer to them than to the aardwolf.

[@Discussr]

@@Andrey.Ivanov thanks🙂

[@TalesofKaimere]

From what I was able to find, the common ancestor of striped, brown, and spotted hyenas is estimated to be around 10 million years ago. As that's around when these guys were harvested, they are equally related to all three. As brown and striped hyenas seem closer, imagine it this way: brown and striped are siblings, spotted and common hyenas are cousins from the same side but each with different parents.

[@Discussr]

@@TalesofKaimere thanks very much, that helps put it into perspective

[@Bingus_the_third_esquire]

Oh no

[@justinianthegreat1444]

Mammals of Kaimere will always be more awesome than the Dinosaurs in my opinion.

[@TalesofKaimere]

A lot of folks agree!

[@ryanchen1819]

Speaking of which, how did homo erectus and/or their descendants react to houze grass when it came to the Known World? (And how did homo sapiens react to houze grass when they got introduced to Kaimere?)

[@rylanbrewer3320]

Does veraset hunt hares

[@rylanbrewer3320]

How do humans interact withe sulan

[@praetorianrex5571]

Question: if the term "alpha" in zoology had its definition updated shouldn't the same apply to "Omega"? My personal take on an Omega is an individual with equal importance in contribution to the group as the Alpha albeit with less authority. For example, a bear that has been adopted by a wolf pack would be considered that packs Onega. What definition would you give the Omega, Keenan?

[@rylanbrewer3320]

What will next episodes be

[@TalesofKaimere]

Lions of Kaimere

[@rylanbrewer3320]

Is pachycrouta still a kleptoparasite and which harvest did veraset and pachycrouta get harvested from

[@TalesofKaimere]

Pachycrocuta is often a kleptoparasite but not strict. They can and do hunt on their own. Both veraset and Pachycrocuta were harvested from Asia 1.5 mya

[@rylanbrewer3320]

What does veraset means a pachycroutas pakardiant name

[@hodarinundu]

Very cool :D Everything's better with hyenas (said no leopard or lion ever)

[@TalesofKaimere]

haha true that

[@aaronbeckett0714]

My fav episode of Kaimere of all time. I head a theory that humans are afraid of laughter in the dark because our ancestors evolved in Africa and were obviously hunted by hyenas (as the theory posits)

[@diegoquezada3193]

Not just in Africa either, it's believed that hyenas may have stopped the migration of humans to the east of Eurasia

[@aaronbeckett0714]

@@diegoquezada3193 I heard it was Arctotherium simus, the northern short faced bear, but the hyenas make lotta sense as well, pack hunting, laughing nightmares.

[@Andrey.Ivanov]

​@@aaronbeckett0714There's not much evidence of how humans and Arctodus simus might have interacted, meanwhile the entire of Northern Eurasia was full of cave hyenas and we know that they atleast occasionally caused problems to neanderthals, so probably to our species as well.

[@professorsimosuchus7954]

Are there more common hyaena subspecies/other related species back in kairul? Or has the assembly only encountered one?

[@TalesofKaimere]

There are other species in their genus but this species isn't present.

[@professorsimosuchus7954]

@@TalesofKaimere also, i dont know if i understood wrong, but is the vereset a relic of the grasslands that covered ni'khar previous to houze arrival, or is it a kairulan migrant like the common hyaena, and if not, have they spread to kairul from ni'khar? (Same question for the harkundi)

[@rylanbrewer3320]

How do mountain hyenas deal with competion from white cockatrice

[@TalesofKaimere]

They don’t intersect much. White cockatrice rely on cliffs for diving down, while hyenas favor open more level terrain found more in the foothills and mountain valleys.

[@rylanbrewer3320]

@@TalesofKaimere I heard from the unnatural history channel that Himalayan wolves and snow leapord do something similar with the wolf preferring more open areas and snow leopard more mountainous areas

[@TalesofKaimere]

@@rylanbrewer3320 Indeed, the relationship between snow leopards and wolves was inspirational to the dynamic of white cockatrice and mountain hyenas

[@rylanbrewer3320]

@@TalesofKaimere I think the mountain hyenas and white cockatrices might have overlap in prey takin liptoerns and other ungulates withe the mountain leopard

[@TalesofKaimere]

​@@rylanbrewer3320 There is indeed overlap in prey and territory between them, mountain leopard, and thylacoleo. Doesn't invalidate the trends I mentioned above. Animals don't follow laws of niche or anything like that. They generally have their niches but all four similar-sized predators in the Telmede Mountains have overlap.

[@rylanbrewer3320]

How succeful were the bone crushing dogs before the arrival of hyenas

[@TalesofKaimere]

Very

[@rylanbrewer3320]

@@TalesofKaimere how did the panther hounds and oracyon get there curosial adaptations I thought the bone crushing dogs weren’t built for running long distance

[@TalesofKaimere]

@@rylanbrewer3320 Don't assume all members of a clade have the same restrictions as their most famous derived members. A general trend of a clade, like being robust, is not always a law that all abide. We should not restrict assumptions of tyrannosauroids on T. rex, for example. A lot of the early borophagines harvested in the Oligocene were not the robust extreme bone crushers like Epicyon. These smaller more basal borophagines were ancestral to most Kaimeran borophagines. Probably all living taxa.

[@dododelmal88malevolotambie50]

Speaking of cheetahs, are there any in Kaimere?

[@TalesofKaimere]

Nope! Unfortunately not a ton of open grassland and where it is happened to either have established competition or otherwise favored other animals

[@dododelmal88malevolotambie50]

@@TalesofKaimere well there goes my favorite felid 😢 thanks for the answer, kaimere is a massive inspiration for me

[@justinianthegreat1444]

And Keenan, are mammals on their way to domination and outnumbering the Dinosaurs in Kaimere's future given the harvests keep on introducing Mammalian fauna? (Not counting the Humans because it's a certainty that they'll dominate just like here on Earth)

[@TalesofKaimere]

If the portal was free to harvest normally (which it currently is not), mammals have a HUGE advantage in their numbers being bolstered with each harvest. No such advantage in dinosaurs. When I say dinosaurs I mean nonavian dinosaurs

[@justinianthegreat1444]

Future mammalian fauna in Kaimere would just become more awesome.