NO MORE PLANESWALKERS?? | What Will Happen In AFTERMATH? | MTG Prediction

[@AetherHub]

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[@andrefricke9998]

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[@SifSehwan]

Unfortunately these can be very pricy for EU customers, the recent box from the professor who is also a lovely and amazing person came to around triple the initial price (including shipping). Has anyone in EU ordered any of these before? Very interested in all taxes and real prices of shipping.

[@elihall6480]

you are correct

[@minos69666]

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[@Razdasoldier]

So don't the phyrexian still exist on Eldrane since they were broken from the hive mind before the sealing of New Phyrexian. (The love potion changing their mental state from obeying phyrexian to loving Rankle.)

[@ghosttowncrypt]

I don't think Sorin would be so easily forgiving to give up his spark. He made it very clear she no longer meant anything except rage.

[@_Ve_98]

Let me dream, I will not let my ship sink.

[@eagless7778]

well that was the old sorrin the one from the new innistrad run looks more compassionate and since the reason to fight was because a missunderstaning he maybe be forgive but i dont think that using the spark is a real way of curing the completition since losing your spark means death karn didnt die because it wasnt his spark so he could use it but if anyone else do it it will be trading his/her life for the other one and there is a good amount of planeswalker that would do it with out a though but i dont think is the case as for the de-spaking I think is more of a side effect of the multiver healing the damage of the realm breaker plus a planar change that happened with zarfir and new phyrexian

[@camillion166]

I mean, with Jace being a mind mage, him becoming the new hive mind would be ironic

[@raiderdevellian5752]

Indeed

[@IsaiahBuchanan175]

Where is Jace

[@dargtagnan3696]

*Would make too much sense for WotC to do it.

[@MGmirkin]

And Tezzeret the new "Father of Machines," or some such? And wouldn't it suck if like Slivers somehow got Phyrexianized or something? Stepped in some of the glistening oil tracked across some plane or another.

[@PokeKid1ge1co1]

​@IsaiahBuchanan175 no one knows yet, he left right before the invasion

[@jesok3761]

I don't want planes walking to change I'd just like us to go back to exploring the planes for a while like ikoria, eld, znr, or the sets from 2004 - 2008.

[@brotquel1592]

Taking a step back from these multiversal mega-events would be nice.

[@MGmirkin]

Would be nice to see some actual new planes and new stories for a while. Expand the multiverse into interesting new places...

[@frantasvoboda4387]

I think it'd be pretty cool if the continuation of the story focused on the planes themselves. Like, don't tell me that their inhabitants aren't a little bit paranoid after they realize what threats can roam in the multiverse. Maybe the stories would be about how each plane deals with that. Some could try and invade other planes, some could become closed-up dictatorships because of the fear of what can come next and so on. That would also mean that even smaller villians stuck on their world could be potentially a threat to the multiverse and we would explore the planes and fight local bad guys but at the same time it could allways have an impact on the larger story...

[@U1TR4F0RCE]

It would be interesting to do that in the aftermath of the Phyrexian invasion when one considers that learning of the various planes is what led to Yawgmoth’s Phyrexia getting created.

[@lucidlullaby894]

In an attempt to forcibly bring all the planes together under Phyrexia, the death of the praetors left the planes of the multiverse even more secluded

[@einlan2506]

How is Warhammer able to put out dozens and dozens of quality novels while MTG can't tell a satisfying story in any form of media after 30+ years?

[@juliahenriques210]

Dozens... That's being quite generous with GW, for sure. However... By declaring there's no canon, letting anything happen, eventually some interesting things will happen. That's a lesson Wizards unlearned after the Mending.

[@geinerelizondo2019]

The Robert King books and before were pretty good!

[@IsaiahBuchanan175]

One thing though space Marines always win

[@cheesy_87]

​@@IsaiahBuchanan175 yeah but how many pop literature books do you really know where the protagonist doesn't win in the end?

[@IsaiahBuchanan175]

@@cheesy_87 tyranids are the protagonist

[@starknight2262]

I highly doubt that there won't be any Planeswalkers there too important to the lore to get rid off. Although they kinda become somewhat obsolete in the game at least in my opinion.

[@billygibson9393]

Jeska thrice reborn says otherwise

[@rajamicitrenti1374]

I was so convinced that they were going to keep Realmbreaker around for inderplanar travel while getting rid of all Planeswalker sparks, in order to shift both story and gameplay toward Legendary Creatures, and thus provide more indirect support to Commander. And then they announced Oathbreaker! *flips table*

[@Case2_0]

And then take away Planeswalkers!

[@corey2232]

​@Anon Considering their popularity, there's no chance they stop making planeswalkers for Standard completely. Maybe temporarily, but then they'll quickly get back to it, especially after the inevitable backlash.

[@auraaetherbladesigma6939]

Maybe the fact they’re greatly reducing the number of Planeswalkers via either the damage their spark was taken by which was shown on Nissa, or using said spark to heal planes severely damaged by the Ichor.

[@Crusina]

My exact thought. The healing part.

[@Pandora_The_Panda]

Like a second mending?

[@Necrolord76]

I would love to see Baron Sengir finally be a threat that he was supposed to be.

[@chefjeffvilla1246]

Maybe its marit lages turn

[@C._Bradford]

@Chef Jeff Villa all of the above please. Also now that we know the raven man is Lim Dul he's not off the table either.

[@redwillow1853]

100% agree

[@killerjoke2945]

Yes, and with a card that is actually playable.

[@redwillow1853]

@@killerjoke2945 EXACTLY!!! Gavin is a total douche for lying about the Baron's card from Legends.

[@D-Skotes]

The fact that if you use Sarkhan as a commander you can't have half of his planeswalker cards in it kinda tilts me more than it should.

[@riccardocalosso5688]

Wait, why can't you? I guess if you choose a mono red one, all the one with multiple colors are off the table, but is there another reason?

[@D-Skotes]

@@riccardocalosso5688 the Sarkhan creature (spoiler he has a creature card in this set) is only red blue meaning you can only run his mono red ones.

[@riccardocalosso5688]

@@D-Skotes ah, sorry. I haven't seen any spoilers yet.

[@Scrap_Skunk]

I was originally hoping and March of the machines that Urabrask and his faction would still be alive and operational since it felt like that faction was not really connected to the mind-link that the rest of the phyrexians had

[@AnimeProfilePicture]

Urabrask wasn't, the furnace host was in the war once Urabrask was absent and Elesh Norn took control

[@king0fdragons738]

I hate how they decided to cure Nissa, Ajani, and now Nihiri. As much as I love these characters, having them cured takes away from the fear we felt when we learned they were compleated. I hope this stays to planeswalkers only and the other characters are permanently gone so we still feel the loss that happened from the story. It also make room for other characters to be expanded on instead of focusing on the some ones every time we revisit a plane.

[@TheZebigboss]

agreed. They were switched to metal and now they are as good as new in an instant. Why even bother to make us believe they were gone in the first place.

[@CromwellMTG]

The portals now open, Uncle Istvan steps through the portal to ravnica. Now, he has ample company.

[@KlutoMindMusk]

Mark Rosewater sweatin

[@Geallach83]

Seeing that they just made Oathbreaker an official format, I seriously doubt that this is the end of Planeswalkers.

[@Bloodian]

A potential story arc that may eventually come about is a war against planeswalkers. Planeswalkers are rarely held accountable to the laws of any plane, even to the various gods or higher-power beings. I can't imagine the average plane has been thrilled over how much influence planeswalkers have wielded over the centuries. It might be interesting to see planeswalkers across the Multiverse "on the run," from some sort of interplanar coalition.

[@starknight2262]

In my opinion (and I'm making this comment before actually watching the video ) i think a new powerful villain will rise or an old one that we haven't seen or heard from in a long time will return. There has to be a villain but not just any ordinary villain but a powerful one to challenge the gatewatch and so on. There has to be a major threat because if you actually think about it, every movie, TV show, and video game has major villain who threatens the world or the universe. Of course their are the smaller more common villains who causes trouble but there are always a much bigger villain who plays a much bigger role in the story.

[@SessionSakic]

I am getting Ob-Nix vibes, also what is Tezzeret up to now that he has a new body

[@medhianox6400]

Give me Baron Sengir (and his twisted family) as the new threat.

[@raiderdevellian5752]

Bolas coming back taking advantage of the current chaos would make sense to me. Plus he's like lord vodomort

[@hagermanhooligan0871]

Nicol bolas is still I think the scariest villain in the muti verse he was very powerful and he could have been able to take so much more if got just a little bit more than what he had when he got inprisoned

[@Asmodean1111]

Stories of planes would require going back to three set blocks for a ongoing story to matter, not the speedrun that has happened for a while now. Planewalkers became a scapegoat to keep moving the story at lightning speed. If they keep the current pace on planes as it is, it wont matter if Planeswalkers or the Gatewatch take a backseat, single sets aren't enough time to have story matter outside of them, and honestly outside of Legendarys out of older set that we already know, most wont gain a place in out hearts like with Thalia, or the zombie/stiched twins of Innistrad.

[@callumreilly9107]

I feel like calling Nahiri and Sorin's situation "a miscommunication" is a gross misnomer. Sorin broke his promise and was an absolute douchebag to her leading to the two of them coming to blows. This lead to him imprisoning her and, fine ok she was a threat, but he decided to never let her out and acted as a mild observer towards Zendikar. He is definitely the bad guy here, meanwhile I doubt she has all of her marbles considering how long she was imprisoned with demons obsessing over Zendikar.

[@erebusvonmori8050]

Not entirely accurate. Sorin didn't break his promise intentionally, he screwed up and was too proud to apologise, Nahiri then attacked him and nearly killed Avacyn, which got her put into the Helvault. And we have no idea how he felt about keeping her there because it wasn't as simple as 'let her out' because there was no way out that didn't involve destroying it. And Sorin did more to protect Zendikar in the end than Nahiri did who just declared the situation lost and immediately escalated to genocide.

[@callumreilly9107]

@@erebusvonmori8050 I disagree significantly with the sentiment that Sorin did more to help Zendikar than Nahiri. In fact, he immediately dipped after Nissa accidentally freed the eldrazi when she tried to banish them. Additionally, Nahiri’s work on Innistrad is what caused Emrakul to leave Zendikar during the crisis. If she hadn’t done so, Emrakul would’ve continued and destroyed the plane as she was immune to the Gatewatch’s plan of “burn the fucker”. Nahiri going “you reneged on our deal and have sacrificed my world to the eldrazi. I’ll let you keep your logic, but you will be the victim instead” is a pretty fair conclusion to come to (especially with what she’s been through). Sorin being too proud to admit his wrongdoing and turning up his nose at Nahiri when her world is on the line, refusing to even take a daytrip to check her work like he was obligated to, is definitely fighting words. The fight between the two of them was very visibly Nahiri going “take me fucking seriously, I don’t want to fight you but you promised and I will not be dicked around”.

[@thetismo9055]

Personally don't want walkers to go away, but that's just me.

[@benr685]

I've wondered about whether Vraska was the only one who had that piece of herself reacting with horror to the events she participated in. Tamiyo managed to stop herself long enough to be struck down by the Empress and there was that part where Elesh Norn perceived individuality within Ajani. Vraska was the only one though where we get a POV from a compleated planeswalker in the story, so its hard to tell how much that had to do with Jace or compleated individuals in general.

[@jacobjackson5535]

My personal thought about Nahiri is that her revival must have something to do with the concentrated angelic blast she took from Linvala. Perhaps add that to some of the wild mana abundant to Zendikar? As for the planeswalkers... I wonder if the nature of the blind eternities has changed with realmbreaker effectively filling it and burning. I wonder if there is still some essence or spirit of realmbreaker between planes, and could potentially still open portals, if it had a pilot. I wonder if planeswalkers will lose the ability to planeswalk as they had before because the nature of the blind eternities is changed, but once Wrenn regrows she finds the essence of realmbreaker and becomes the 'Heimdall' to open portals to other planes, and planeswalkers going forward are merely individuals who can connect to Wrenn and ask for a pathway. Of course if this theory is true, the eldrazi have some issues with their void of a home being upset...

[@AetherHub]

Very plausible. Thanks for adding your thoughts. I like the theory about Nahiri. But I hope the whole of the Multiverse is cured just from Angel power…

[@aceundead4750]

Even if the Izzet came up with some machine that cures Phyresis i think Niv would have something included that either puts everyone cured with it into the Izzet guild or somehow under his direct orders, because like Jace and Nicol Bolas, Niv-Mizzet is known for making backup plans for backup plans A-Z

[@AnimeProfilePicture]

Niv wouldn't care anymore esp since Ral is head of the guild now. With Niv being the living guildpact, he feels he ascended higher than guildmaster

[@daringtraveler]

I have a theory here. The "fake sylex" that jace had emitted a green aura.... that was highly reminiscent of the mirari orb from the odyssey block. In that story, kamahls own tribe turns on him when he goes mad. We see similar in the story here with the phyrexians essentially going after elesh norn in the end. So what if the "fake sylex" contained the mirari when jace met elesh norn at the invasion tree. If that were true, it would allow the next chapter to continue the story of the mirari. Remember, Jace also had the "sylex" when meeting Vraska in... if the mirari is indeed in the fake sylex, that means Jace would have been able to heal Vraska. But, of course, this begs the question of how would the mirari affect a telepath such as Jace? Bear in mind, our upcoming set is an Ixalan story, where Jace and Vraska fell in love. Bear in mind, the merfolk were the people hellbent on the mirari. Merfolk are on Ixalan as well. So the aftermath, imo centers entirely on the reveal that the "sylex" is actually the mirari. Keep in mind Glissa was the last one with the mirari, but also has no story element yet.

[@jaridmcnamara6936]

Part of me thinks it will be that the planeswalkers who lose their sparks were in the process of being converted and/or giving up their sparks to close the rifts in the sky alot like the mending. Another thought is that the new phyrexian threat will be theros as the way they changed the gods is very different to everything else they did. Plus Elesh knew something special was on theros that she wanted to exploit.

[@vantain20]

If non-planeswalkers be able to "planeswalk" now, I'd love to see an expanded Mercadia with trade across the Multiverse and vampires of Innistrad, Ixalan, Dominaria, and Ulgrotha becoming linked somehow. Alara, helping Theros recover. Kamigawa with New Capenna. Fiora with both Kaldheim, and to some extent, Ravnica. Gisa and Geralf vacationing on a beach in Ixalan while raising undead dinosaurs. Ral and Tomik, a honeymoon in either Bant, or Dominaria.

[@CreateWorlds]

4:43 still can’t believe people think that. There was always more at stake than some planeswalker dying and it was weird to me how people hyper focused on that. So many planes got absolutely smacked. Theros is absolutely trashed and the world tree on Khaldiem was destroyed as big standouts. When people say nothing happened it’s so frustrating.

[@michaeltaylor788]

Yea I don’t get those people complaints either.

[@notreallyhere67]

Eldraine is a mess right now, Kaladesh is probably pretty wrecked atm since they relied on machines to fight Phyrexia's machines, Ikoria has maybe 2 inhabitable cities left?

[@michaeltaylor788]

@@notreallyhere67 yep but some people say nothing happened I get they don’t like the stories but the nothing happened stuff is nonsense.

[@notreallyhere67]

@@michaeltaylor788 yeah, I agree with you. I just don't get why people think "nothing happened" when entire planes are in shambles :) Maybe it's the way the stories failed to present the scale of the destruction, I guess.

[@michaeltaylor788]

@@notreallyhere67 yea maybe but some of them act like the wanted the villains to win . Or maybe mess up the planes like elden ring style maybe one or two planes but the whole multiverse no way .

[@Hoivey]

There are tons of resurection magic. If melira is the only one who can cure phyresis but dies each time, they just need to revive her, which does not seem that hard.

[@giganoverlord1518]

Wonder what happened to ashiok after experiments on elesh norn it is like just disappeared

[@HihiouZabimaru182]

I'm sorry but I can't ever imagine Sorin being selfless enough to give up his spark to save Nahiri. He will probably have a hand in saving her but not to the extent of giving up his spark to do it.

[@acrolein1870]

If innistrad was really in a bad shape and the only way was to give up his spark i could see that, but for nahiri no way

[@TLWHDX]

I dont think sorin has forgotten markov manor

[@erebusvonmori8050]

Given Sorin's specialty is blood magic and he's handcrafted an archangel... I don't see why he'd even need to. The real question is if you were Nahiri, would you trust that body?

[@collanlucier698]

I hope, in 5 to 10 years we find out that Urabrask finds a way to merge old and new Phyrexia. Yes, yawgmoth is dead but Urza's corpse is there and we'll, waste not want not

[@anthonydelfino6171]

Urabrask was drawn and quartered. He's not around anymore to unite the two. All the praetors are dead.

[@collanlucier698]

@@anthonydelfino6171 was it 'on screen'? I thought I had read somewhere there was now a piecemeal Urabrask

[@anthonydelfino6171]

@@collanlucier698 there's a story conflict between the cards and the written story is that Elesh Norn had Urabrask ripped apart into pieces and destroyed or possibly "recycled" The card says she spared him at the last moment.

[@collanlucier698]

@@anthonydelfino6171 so we have to wait from official word from WotC. Well is bid bad red is still alive then, Urabrask & Urza for Phyrexia 2029!

[@anthonydelfino6171]

​@@collanlucier698 Just depends on if they put more weight on the written story articles, or the flavor text on one card. Though they've reconned things much bigger than this before. Though my money right now is on Jace being the new leader of Phyrexia. The story was very vague about what Norn asked him to do, and doesn't even say if he left the plane or not. It's possible he's in the pocket dimension that New Phyrexia got phased out into, and is now, effectively, immortal until they need to bring them back as a threat.

[@devon1899]

While watching I had a thought. I wonder if any completed planeswalkers ended up on Esper. One of the few planes that has very metal- organic cyborg like creatures. Potentially one of the few places in the multiverse (that we've seen) that could potentially repair, and even fix someone who had been completed by phyrexia. That would be quite interesting to see, a Jace and Vraska with all of their metal parts replaced with Esper metal. They may be more machine than man, but they would be alive, together, and in full control of their bodies once more.

[@redwillow1853]

I like the idea of Planeswalkers going away and the story focusing on characters native to the plane instead.

[@tntkaboomsky7427]

We still have Quintorious so we will be getting our Elephant Planeswalker but what set we do not know

[@chrisberotti5876]

I would have liked to see the deaths of the completed plains walkers to make room for new characters. I could see Oko being the new bad guy starting shit from behind the seens pitting planes against plains for the shere fun of it.

[@darthader3507]

Oko turning everyone to elks is the new threat 😂

[@chrisberotti5876]

Well you have a character that that can shape shift in to any one. Can mind control even if he dosent like to. Gets his jollys in wrecking what people love the most. And hates establishments. I don't see him over powering plains I could see him turning plains against each other

[@Pit.Badger]

I saw someone crack a collectors box already on KZbin. No clue how he got it but I have seen some of the desparked walkers. Some are shocking but nothing really wild

[@burningdog2324]

what i am looking for in future story arcs is mostly a time skip above all things else Emrakul said herself that Innistrad isn't ready for her to invade Ugin alluded to consequences to the Eldrazi titan's deaths, consequences that we won't see for possibly millenia Bolas may be relatively powerless but he's still an elder dragon who can live for several thousands of years I think above all things else that we should just let things rebuild and relax. the phyrexian invasion has massive effects on the multiverse and i feel like almost every plane we visit is going to have to have a "this is how they responded to the invasion" annotation afterwards. also majority of the storylines are done, zendikar is healed, Innistrad is mostly fine now without Avacyn (or as fine as it will ever get). Garruk is healed, Nissa and chandra are together, Jace is no longer the guildpact, Sarkhan is free. there are so few loose threads now compared to like 2014/2015 that i honestly do not care anymore about what happens to tezzeret, or ob nixilus, or Oko, or anyone at this point. lets finally give these characters and planes some rest and see them again sometime later

[@sertaki]

I applaud your massive efforts to somehow not talk about the leaks, but still speculate around the leaks. 👍

[@dem7556]

For real… Where the hell was Jace during all this story? He could had single handily win this whole war, it was stated how dangerous he could be if he got compleated, that ended up meaning jack

[@akilsteele2275]

Where is Garruk in all of this? Seems really odd he’s not around at all.

[@vixthewhitefang]

i hope jace becomes the new enemy of the multiverse, he would become an amazing threat

[@KAR1492]

I agree. I feel like they've run their course with Jace as a hero, people find him boring and vanilla. Making him the big bad gives a lot more space for storytelling with him and his relationships with other character.

[@Enja_Near]

As long as one drop of Oil exists..... All hail the new Yawgmoth.

[@raiderdevellian5752]

Under the command of a returned bolas?

[@KAR1492]

@@raiderdevellian5752 I think it would be even cooler if he were the one in control OF Bolas. We don't need another Bolas big bad arc, but imagine if Compleated Jace was such a villain that even Bolas was under his charge.

[@matthewwasser5621]

I always assumed that some of the miner villains, such as Ob Nixlis and Tezzeret, would rise to fill the void and become the new big Bads of the lore. I also love planswalkers, especially the non-human ones. I always enjoy opening the non-human walkers more than the human ones.

[@jweezy15able]

I just think that Wizards is creatively bankrupt. When you have to get a lead designer to do a video to explain that your story isn't trash, you know you messed up. But then again, they've been doing similar stuff for a long time now so I'm not surprised.

[@riccardocalosso5688]

Oh wow! A playmat with my favourite art in all of mtg, gift of orzhova? Gotta have it!

[@TheCrafter365]

Sorin is not gonna give away his spark

[@j.chanslor8221]

I'm assuming you missed the leak that happened today? about half the set?

[@giacomomontanari4985]

I'm sorry if this going to sound bitter, but WotC proved time and again to be unwilling to take any significant and/or long lasting risk regarding magic's story. Aftermath won't change anything of substance. The compleated planeswalker will be desparked for half a chapter, at best

[@Necrolord76]

What happens to the depowered war machines? What happens when a lesser civilization goes poking around the technology?

[@airistal]

It's possible that as an angel formed in the blind eternities Elspeth is connected to every plane and doesn't need a spark to planeswalk.

[@Mcpetra197]

I feel if Magic wants to continue the story, if every planeswalker loses their sparks I'm very certain that at least one deparked planswalker is going to make it their mission to get their spark back at any cost, and so far there has only been 1 being that came close to such an feat, Nicol Bolas.

[@Regiris]

Someone opened an aftermath collectors box yesterday and it shows planeswalkers as creatures cards. Kinda assumed hub saw that and pushed this vid out before news broke.

[@confettius]

Those cristals on Nihiri looks a bit like cleansing cristals from Ikoria 🤔

[@cibor07]

Yet another no consequences follow up event for mtg. Pretty sad how under the rug everything went. Even so, enjoy the predictions.

[@Sinistra359]

Bruh, didn't all the professors on strixhaven get compleated? But in the Aftermath set we have plargg and nassari???????? 👀👀👀

[@yaboibolas197]

While the multiverse is safe for now there's a few things I'd like to point out. Yes all of the Praetor's are dead and New Phyrexia is removed from space and time. Which to me, seems about right. We need a good rest from inter-planar warfare. However, we still know Tezzeret is out there. He was one of the major culprits in succeeding compleation of planeswalkers. We know he's a master artificer. Since he helped Jin-Gitaxias create the reality chip don't you think he could make another one? Or something similar to it? While he did finally become free, he's still evil. Secondly, the currently compleated planeswalkers in general. I do not think they should have given so many the opportunity to come back to life in the multiverse. I feel they should of been killed off or forever imprisoned and de-sparked like they did to Nicol Bolas. Those planeswalkers had committed multiple atrocities across countless planes. They knew what they were doing despite being under Elesh Norn's command. At least one of them being Lukka got the punishment fit for him. Sorry but he wasn't very smart in the beginning of this lol. I'm okay with seeing de-sparked planeswalkers but I wish they would of killed off a few more. Certain characters like Jace, Nissa, and Ajani have been in Magic's story for a very long time and it's time we see some new planeswalkers step up. For example, Teyo and Davriel. We haven't had a single card of them since War of the Spark. That was 4 YEARS AGO. (Sorry Garruk lol) we finally heard they are in the story but have no card? Not even a card referencing what they're doing? At least with Phyrexia: All Will Be One the card "Compleat Devotion" at least shows that Ajani is present in this set and he is playing a role. We get a quick little blurb of text saying Teyo and Davriel are just helping Ravnica.. like what? Just helping? Tell us more about them. Let's look at Mu Yangling and Jiang Yangguu. We haven't seen Mu since core set 2019 or 2020? We haven't seen Jiang since War of the Spark. Where were they in all of this mess? I think it's time to keep some of the older walkers tucked away for a while. Have them be like your mentor or wise advisors you go to and they come to help when the time calls. Just some thoughts I wanted to share!

[@digunder14]

anyone else wanna see the phyrexians go up against some of dnd's aberrations that are tied to the far realm? i feel would be a fun side story/war concept with both being on from what i can tell the edges of their respective multiverses. especially with them having had dnd cross overs, on both ends making their interactions semi canon, i'd love to see vecna just wreck a mtg plane cuz he uses magic unlike anything in the mgt universe's norms.

[@danielfrazier5586]

Im still curious how Serra was talking to Elspeth after all this time. Just feels like the whole story is warped. Maybe we will start getting 'Alternate Timelines' - Would love to see some what ifs - What is Yawgmoth won for example. What if Nicol Bolas won.

[@danielfrazier5586]

But then again, after what i've seen with the Phyrexian story.. I've kinda lost some faith in the story

[@erebusvonmori8050]

Easiest if you chalk the whole Serra conversation up to a hallucination.

[@trentonreeves996]

What if they set up jace as the next major villain he is also one of the few people that know that bolas is still alive

[@dant1386]

I think that the halo in new capena will have something to do with curing the phyrexian infection

[@uhjn]

aftermath has a lot of questions to answer, many major players and factions on certain planes have been majorly affected by the phyrexians, thinking primarily helios and the other completed gods, and the golgari who varaska enslaved. are the gods just dead now? how exstensive is was the golgari completion? are there still enough golgari to stay a guild, if not what does that mean for ravnica?

[@MGmirkin]

Who knows, maybe Realmbreaker weakened the walls between planes, or left "cracks" in the multiverse, through which other can now pass, even without a Planeswalker spark? For good or ill...

[@jacktessler5797]

Another thing i think should be considered is that Jace is the only person that knows about Bolas' whereabouts and that he is alive. He might do something with that

[@thatoneaphelios8474]

can anyone tell me where to start with mtg lore? I prefer chronological order to some degree if possible. Want to start from the beginning to full understand what is happening now

[@CrrEasy]

I really like this take.... Tbh I thought before mom lore came out that this would be the end of plains walking altogether

[@justinmcclintock1013]

Stay with me, the mind prisons kept Jace and Vraska active while all the other phyrexians became inert. Jace saved Vraska and they will become the new mother and father of machines, a new interplaner threat!

[@flamedragon07]

I wonder about Sarkhan Vol. He was on the package. I think the dragon man might be able to help.

[@zeropoint2594]

Are the planes still connected ? On New Capenna the Branch of Realmbreaker returned to New Phyrexia if I´m correct so that would mean that there are no means for traveling between Planes

[@MarioJPC]

Didn't it exist one sleeper agent than helped Urza and was part of the Karn Origin than reveled against Yawgmoth? That would be the first good Phirexian... but they would be the first compleated... I don't think than we will see Quintorius on Aftermath, but on Wylds of Eldraine, because he was thinking on his friends from there, the twins.

[@AetherHub]

You may be right! And yeah you’re talking about Xantcha!

[@mssj4gokou]

What if, as you went over in the new planes video, Quint planeswalks to Beledon with the Elephant species?

[@Lightman0359]

On the Jace note, there are potential parallels in both Star Wars and Stargate. In Star Wars Legends [IE good Star Wars], Luke feigns falling to the dark side in order to get close enough to a resurrected/cloned Darth Sidious so he could finish off the Emperor for good [this is the storyline JJ Abrams was read from the Wiki while smoking all the meth when he came up with the Snoke/Rey Palpatine stuff] In Stargate, Daniel Jackson [after choosing to give up being an Ancient to help the galaxy directly, basically giving up his spark] volunteers to become a Prior to the Ori [basically becoming compleated] so he could gather intel and steal one of their ships. Jace could be doing something like this.

[@stonerainproductions]

Id love to see Jace and Vraska back in Ixalan living together in peace

[@knotty_trout96]

Did the phyrexian invasion interfere with bolas imprisonment. They have had dealings with him before maybe they freed him. Have we heard anything about ugin since the start of the war.

[@Inverts4Introverts]

Jace is pretty much the Batman of magic. I'm excited to see what he's been doing

[@dem7556]

March of the Deus Ex Machina

[@Alewyshus]

Kinda makes me wonder what the origin of the spark could be. It's clearly an interconnected part of existence. I wonder if it just came into being or if it was created...

[@robertmcpherson138]

So with the leak showing some uninvolved planeswalkers as non-planeswalkers there's an idea of a Second Mending being floated.

[@DragonspineInfiniteZero]

Well we've seen the eldrazi WE KNOW ABOUT defeated doesnt mean more cant come about

[@Dent13113]

I really hope that we get a good story featuring Ob Nixilis. In the leaks he is called 'captive kingpin'. So who caught and imprisoned him ? So many questions. Also he is desparked to. Maybe an returning Bolas stole his spark ? Hyped for the future and anything about my fav. Mob Nixilis.

[@blackmailer26]

Jace and Vraska, Parents of Phyrexia. Calling the card now. Also, Newer Phyrexia... made in Ravnica. That's probably about 5 years away tho.

[@loosechange8626]

We never seen anything about niv. So what if he uses his new powers (we know little about) some how cures varaska.

[@loosechange8626]

As an act of heroism, purple heart her if you will

[@phantomninja904]

I have a feeling that the big plot point is going to be something like realmbreaker and phyrexia retreating causes some interdimentional shift undoing the results of the mending and condensing sparks once again stripping all but the most powerful planeswalkers sparks.

[@C._Bradford]

Somebody got their hands on a box of collector boosters and posted it online. A ton of planeswalkers got non planeswalker legendary creatures.

[@bmyles9567]

So what happened to vishgraz and ixhel.

[@whydoesthisexistpod]

We did see in Dominaria United that Lim Dul is back. Let's see what comes of that.

[@renegarcia9420]

Check out some of the potential spoilers, if you dare, to address certain speculations

[@majinvegeta6364]

Planes Wars? Innistrad as the next big bad flooding the multiverse with vampires, werewolfs, and devils? The crime families of New Capenna expanding their Halo cartel into new worlds by harvesting their angels? Humans seek to escape from Ahmonket as zombies overrun countless worlds? Azor returns to Ravnica. Does he regain his memories and seek to restore order by challenging Niv-Mizzet for the power of the Guildpact? Battle of the Titans with Zacama vs. Zilortha vs. Progenitus? What if the Elder Dragons of Tarkir each found a new house in allied color pairs at the Strixhaven school, so all 10 color pairs are represented to accommodate students from across the Multiverse? What about having Kalidesh inventors teach at the Tolerian Academy? Uncle Sengar uniting vampire factions from across the multiverse? Except Sorin, who schemes to undermine his authority. Kaldhiem vs. Theros in a battle of the gods with Hezoret acting as the wildcard? Dimir spies engage in shadow warfare with the ninjas of Kamigawa? Can the Wanderer stabilize or sacrifice her planeswalking spark to finally find peace in her lost home?

[@majinvegeta6364]

EDIT: Uncle Sengir uniting the vampire nations of Innistrad, Zendikar, Ixalan, and Dominaria under a single banner. Sorin becomes head of New Capenna's vampire crime family to undermine his rule.

[@HereticalPreist]

Mmm I doubt that if Vraska is cleansed she probably won’t survive seeing as how she would still have the Target on her back thanks to her actions during the war of the spark arc. Speaking of which don’t know if I missed this but what happened to Tezzeret?!?

[@AetherHub]

Tezzeret stole a new darksteel body and DIPPED

[@frankieyuen9363]

@@AetherHub so he’s going to join the next big bad and back stab them

[@JediMasterRevenantMADNESS]

Uh, Vraksa was cleared of her crimes and all she had to do was kill Dovin. Only ones who know she didn't do this are the Dimir, and they're not gonna care to do anything with that info unless they want her to do something for them. You're thinking of Liliana, but even then she was heavily involved in the story of MOM and no one even mentioned her still being alive and her betrayal in the war of the spark, so I think she's pretty safe.

[@christopherb501]

Future possible sweeping threats: -Kaervek -Shauku -Geyadrone Dihada -Nailah -Baron Sengir -Ravi / Grandmother Sengir -the Onnakke -slivers -Marit Lage -Hidetsugu -when New Phyrexia inevitably returns, the Domini -Sarpadian thrulls -Lim-Dûl -Oona -if still alive, Sivitri Scarzam -Parcher -nephilim -Ashiok -the Sunderer -the one who made the Ozolith -Indath -Oko -the Titans of Theros -Braids -the Primevals -if it ever made it off the former Mirrodin intact, Mirari -the Iquati -some rogue being(s) of Equilor -Dark Rabiah -Calix -a loose, vengeant Worldsoul(s) -the thing the Ashen Idol was erected for -the creator of the Celestus -the general sweeping darkness of Innistrad -Aclazotz -a Time Spiral-like build-up of apocalyptic consequences crashing down on the fabric of reality, in particular with Ravnica or Innistrad -Ixhel and Vishgraz, just not in a specifically Phyrexian cause -Kasmina and her mystery group -Davriel -Tezzeret and the rebuilt Consortium -the true demons of New Capenna -the reflections of Rabiah randomly start integrating with other planes, after centuries of instability -Alhammeret(sp?) -Azor -somehow, Gix returned -Iname -the Big, Furry Monster

[@pelusoft]

I know is a bit soon. But Liliana is my favorite character and I would like to know what's going on between Lim-Dûl and her? Is she going to rid of him? And also I have high hopes for my big boy Quint

[@AetherHub]

Yeah we don’t know much! But I’m super pumped for a Loxodon Planeswalker. We don’t get many non-humans in recent times.

[@jish55]

what if all planes become one massive plane, where all major locations become different continents and thus removing the need for planeswalkers?

[@monkaeyes]

I'd love for planeswalkers to go, but I still want some sort of connection or clashes between planes to exist. Like if Realmbreaker left holes around the place or something. I think planes like Azgol for example look very Black and Red. It seems very unlikely that theres much of a White or Green presence on that plane. So then the only way they can reveal more about the plane, is if its in a set not centred around one plane. And the only chance of that is if there are interactions between planes.

[@michaeltaylor788]

Why do you want planes walkers to go.

[@monkaeyes]

@@michaeltaylor788 same characters all the time.

[@michaeltaylor788]

@@monkaeyes most stories have the same characters all the time and are still popular so I really don’t get it.

[@monkaeyes]

@@michaeltaylor788 👌

[@HamTheCat7087]

I feel like Jace being a new villain for the multiverse would be awesome!

[@Schattenbaroee]

I would love a set "Escape from the Prison Realm" - Bolas returns and dozens of completely unknown super villains, evil planeswalkers and mindless beasts that could devour worlds.

[@bloodfest8510]

A full set of titans. Absolute goliaths. 7 drops and higher

[@DragonspineInfiniteZero]

Something i want to mention involving jace. A while back the marvel multiverse has a similar threat to phyrexia the poisons basically skeletal imps that fed on symbiote users and their symbiotes turning them into a poison variant of themselves and making them serve the hive, one victim jean Grey A TELEPATH Broke through the corruption and cured herself and killed the queen severing the hives connection. If a teenage telepath can do that then odds are jace could do the same minus briefly becoming living psyonic energy.... i think idk if elspeth can turn into an angel by exploding who knows

[@DevinVT1]

I kinda hope vraska and jace show up later as some new leaders of phyrexia. Like maybe they’re sparks kept them for shutting down unlike all the other phyrexians

[@airistal]

Or even Jace by shear shear force of will has kept himself active. This may even produce a Phyrexia with new different goals.

[@JediMasterRevenantMADNESS]

their*

[@sertaki]

I really hope we will get a return of Phyrexia in some years, but it's actually a Urabrask-led one, which isn't a villain but more like a chaotic neutral weird multiplanar cult of chaos - for those who decide to join on their own. No forced compleation under Urabrask's watch! I think this is what is being set up, with him being the only Praetor who doesn't get killed off completely, just ... mostly.

[@michaeldrew2473]

Not forgetting Ashiock, who was conspicuous in her absence after tormenting Elesh Norn, and Tezzeret the Cockroach.

[@ayebee1108]

Planeswalkers are such a huge pillar of the lore and I doubt they’ll move away from that completely. If anything they’re very much just going to be sparking a new generation of characters.

[@chefjeffvilla1246]

What ever happened to tezzeret?