No Other Technique Comes Close to This...REALLY!

Do this EVERY SONG! This will take you to a new level...REALLY
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[@nulodgerecords4861]

Dr Bob = My Hero!

[@BobbyHuff]

Hahaha! Thanks!

[@markthefrontman1]

❤🔥🤘😎 That was a huge momentum boost !!!😮killer Doc!!

[@BobbyHuff]

Thanks Mark!

[@goatzilla3075]

Nice track! My initial reaction was to go "hell no, artistic integrity is everything, keep the gap in the Vox" - but then flipped the concept on its head and thought "what If I originally wrote the vocals running together like that - would I put the gaps in?" The answer would be no. Maybe to mix it up as a build out of a breakdown or something but yeah - less is more. Thanks man.

[@tcr4451]

Fantastic! I've even heard problems pop out when I've just played a track for a friend. My own listening changes with someone else present.

[@BobbyHuff]

Agreed!!

[@gingerfreak01]

Absolutely. The first time I play a song to anyone I hear everything I don't like. There's nothing like it for focus.

[@g-menBand]

Do not agree. The new version feels rushed to me. Or like a pre-chorus. But I’m old, I don’t get bored by a good verse.

[@subterraneanpimpernel9455]

this thought process proves why "she loves you yeah yeah yeah" is the greatest song ever. it starts with the chorus and just keeps getting better and moves and changes all the time.

[@BobbyHuff]

Hahaha! Starting with the chorus is always fun.

[@jeffrey.a.hanson]

@@BobbyHuff It’s rare I like starting on the chorus, but ‘Counting Stars’ by One Republic in the lower octave with just a classical is stylish move. It gives the song something to come back to when it needs to pump the breaks later on. As a songwriter, it’s perfectly executed. Then again, even that’s an evolution of the Beatles.

[@ToddErickson207]

​@@jeffrey.a.hansonexactly!

[@JaviBello]

Me: play video Bobby: the Beatles, Chris Lord Alge, Mutt Lange technique Me: don't play with me, BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOB!!!!!!!!!! Also me after watching the video: you did it again, Bobby, thanks for everything!!!

[@BobbyHuff]

JAAAAAAAAVVVV !! Thanks my friend!

[@ordinalkirk]

Wow! Very good fix for that song.

[@BobbyHuff]

Thank u!

[@robgracia509]

thank you bobby for doing this awesome

[@BobbyHuff]

My pleasure!

[@Tony-yp7ok]

I can hear Imperial Drag/Jellyfish/The Sweet in there. Good song!

[@BobbyHuff]

Aaahhhh!!! Love ALL THOSE BANDS! Thank u!

[@keithnorris2109]

Completely unrelated, but this song reminded me of the couple sitting next to me yesterday on a flight from Santorini to Frankfurt. I mean, good for him but...😂

[@BobbyHuff]

Hahahahaha!!!!!!!

[@SquibKickRecords]

Doctor Bob....first off, aside from the great advice, who is that band? I really like that song and would like to hear some other stuff. Thanks for any info!

[@BobbyHuff]

Thank You! It’s called Light Zoo. They will be releasing a lot of stuff soon!!

[@jaycer71]

Not arguing the correctness of this in today's society but it's freaking sad. Zep, Sabbath, Maiden, Metallica, etc. would never make it as a new band today and we would never have had that great music because nobody has the patience to just chill with a song.

[@scottstedeford7575]

Well, Bob is drawing on techniques that predate those bands. Context is also important. The bands (types of bands) you mentioned were not writing for pop forms. Nevertheless, these kinds of techniques are not saddled to formats. They’re just good techniques that each of those bands routinely applied.

[@BobbyHuff]

I hear u and agree..

[@jaycer71]

@@BobbyHuff Great advice. Sadly. But, I've never cared for the cookie cutter pop song structure bs. That said, that is what makes money and that's what makes your advice so important. Me? I'm still going to stick with what I do and never make a penny. Oh well.

[@BobbyHuff]

@@jaycer71all good! Just suggesting things that have worked in my career. You have to decide what is best for your heart and soul!

[@jaycer71]

@@BobbyHuff Absolutely. Don't take what I said as a critique of you. Its a critique of the BS industry. I totally respect your advice on how to achieve that.

[@jeffrey.a.hanson]

Every hit moves forward with mini hooks. Sing a third or octave higher, phrase on 1 +, double up phrases to steamroll it into a big chorus. Push & Pull.

[@mickeyleemusic]

Love the track. It's got an Imperial Drag vibe. If anyone knows who that is.

[@BobbyHuff]

Thanks and yes great band! Jellyfish vibes

[@RecordProducerRob]

Great addition to the verse. Do I hear you on that ultra high back up vocal?

[@BobbyHuff]

Hahaha! All vocals

[@gisellechacon7081]

🤣🙃😂 So you know how every time I say I have a mix to send it takes 3 days? LOL so true! That focus trick is super important! You can get too detail focused and miss the sound and feel of the whole thing. For me, it seems to help if I kinda stretch my face, blink, widen my eyes, then try to really let it relax... and also to keep my eyes moving around the room without really settling... and the whole sound of the mix comes through. BTW, I really dig your adapted arrangement, it grooves and does indeed get to the point. And here we see why the new pop song is 2:30. Crazy. BTW, Mama just hit KZbin and your master is just brilliant, it sounds better after the algorithm than ever before. Folks, you need help hit the Doc up, he's amazing! :)

[@BobbyHuff]

Hey Girl!! Thanks so much!!

[@kevinpaige5746]

Like I always say, "Trim the fat". Cool song!

[@BobbyHuff]

Thanks Kevin

[@buddyalbert5808]

Sounds a bit like the band Sweet on that last high harmony. Now I have to go listen to “Love is like Oxygen”.

[@BobbyHuff]

Hahaha! I get that. I love some of Sweets songs.

[@mehditayshun5595]

Extremely creative. The combination of distorted-highly processed guitars and horns gives it a unique flavor👍 John & Paul would approve

[@ryderl3988]

Thank you for everything you do on this channel

[@BobbyHuff]

My pleasure!

[@ryderl3988]

@@BobbyHuff overlook my screen icon. I am working on an 80s style metal project. So this the logo that was designed with the band name. I am a keyboardist and multi-instrumentalist too. So I am a musical Mutt..

[@uvulapie]

I love your song writing! Do you have albums online anywhere?

[@BobbyHuff]

I am working on something and it will be out soon. Thank u!

[@gslide06]

Methinks you would copy anything Mutt did, maybe with the exception of cheating on Shaina Twain. Good tutorial, cheers.

[@BobbyHuff]

Hahaha! Yes I’m a one woman man!

[@rocnathan]

First version is classic The Sweet, for the second version they brought in Jeff Lynne. :-) Shame they don't give you time to build your verse anymore, but that said, the second version is tighter and more fun. Would love to hear the whole thing! And I totally agree - if in doubt, cut out every other thing, and most of the time, surprisingly, it'll work just as well or better.

[@BobbyHuff]

Thanks I love The Sweet and Jeff Lynne!!

[@rjkanejr]

Dude!? This is terrific. Thanks for sharing your experience and that of your heroes. You're one of my heroes! hehehe. Seriously, this is great insight and let's us knwo we should be listening with more than our ears, just mixing, but from more of a producer's perspective. Although, while I love what you did with this, it may be difficult to get the composer/songwriter/band on board with your changes. What guidance would you give to overcome that type of hurdle?

[@BobbyHuff]

Great question! I’m the composer and the band. Hahaha. If I were doing this for someone else I would make a mock up of these changes and suggest it to them and let them decide.

[@pdxfun4888]

@@BobbyHuffthats a tough one ,being a similar all in one . To edit, arrange, perform ,change evaluation and…..keep a level of energy? Tall order. Your insights, techniques, suggestions are a wonderful example of a generous ,hard working man. Man , I’m much older and had teach myself by home recording. No one was willing to chat without charging a kid 100 an hr. No one my age could afford that and none was doing bedroom recording then.lol Gonna have some fun again and your videos are always amazing. Thank you, Dr Bob!

[@robshrock-shirakbari1862]

The technique and point of the video is solid... good one. I would have liked to hear the verse split; I missed the space. And going from space to losing the gap would in itself build momentum. As it ended up, we lost the Beavis and Butthead head shaking air guitar and now it's just wall-to-wall vocal lines. I had a hard time telling the sections apart a bit on first listen, actually. Anyway, nice singing and playing. Thx for sharing!

[@petergedd9330]

I still don't know what you did Bobby, but it sounded light years better.

[@BobbyHuff]

Haha!! Thanks Peter.

[@estesfamily6761]

Thanks Bobby, always love your videos and that you use Cubase!

[@BobbyHuff]

Thanks for watching!

[@HenryMittnacht]

That´s ELO on xstasy! That´s how they could prolly sound in 2024! What a great song and production!

[@BobbyHuff]

Hahaha!! I LOVE ELO!

[@rome8180]

I'm glad you said that you tried to keep the first half of the verse like it was and speed the second half up. That was my immediate solution. But if you say it didn't work, I'll trust you. Sometimes ideas that seem good in your head don't work in practice.

[@BobbyHuff]

Thanks Rome!!! Yeah I hear stuff in my head all the time that doesn’t work!! Haha! Try EVERYTHING!!

[@kjaze]

@@BobbyHuff Yep. Keep the 7 Minute Rule in effect!

[@StratsRUs]

Yeah.I thought it would sound good leaving the first two gaps , with maybe a novelty hook in between.. and then the continuous part follows. Any later verses could all be joined up like the part in this video. But that's the point, to always try everything and constantly think of the listener's attention span.

[@jeffrey.a.hanson]

Funny enough, I wrote my comment before the solution to see if I’d do the same. Yup! Create the perception of speed (horizontal movement) and build up the size (vertical stacking). To do this takes experience, but if this cliche rock song can become entertaining, anything can.

[@scottstedeford7575]

I recall Clearmountain being asked, what’s the main thing that makes a great mix? He answered, “the song arrangement.” As usual, I’ll be going through my tracks to see where I need to apply this technique. Your applications have improved every corner of my production values. Thanks again, Bob!

[@BobbyHuff]

Thanks Scott!

[@likenokevin]

Really good improvement to the arrangement! I love the dirt on that lead vocal. Would you like to share the chain for the lead vocals? The whole song sounds great!

[@BobbyHuff]

Thanks so much! The dirt on the vocals is the Korneff Talkback Limiter in the vocal chain at about 30% wet.

[@theslideguy4228]

Huff, I KNOW that was you singing. Sounds great. And another super trick. Thanks!

[@BobbyHuff]

Hahaha! Caught me!

[@keithrowe1007]

Also, if in doubt, speed it up. This could use 6 - 8 bpm easily. My $.02

[@billribas]

I will just say great vid as always. But what happened to your finger?

[@BobbyHuff]

Thanks! I have Mallet Finger! It sucks.

[@vicesquadpunk]

I like that song Bob… Glam Rock meets Punk Rock elements of The Sweet in there which lifts big time 🔥❤️🔥 best wishes from London 🇬🇧

[@BobbyHuff]

Thanks so much. I can’t believe how many people have commented that it reminds them of Sweet. They had a few songs that really killed me! Had a few Jellyfish comments too.

[@michaelparson-mcnamara782]

An excellent tip! I noticed whenever I'd play a track for someone somewhere else, I could hear it as if I was someone else and even BEFORE this or that part came along, I knew it needed fixing. SO this suggestion is spot on IMO!

[@BobbyHuff]

Thanks Michael!

[@ChrisIlett]

Bit cheeky of me to suggest this, but given you mentioned the Beatles.... have you tried this track a bit faster? 125BPM - 128 I think. Gets you there even faster, the build carries better and the chorus is more of an anthem. Good video - totally agree with what you did

[@Durkhead]

Maybe keep the chorus at the same speed but speed up the first part

[@BobbyHuff]

Not cheeky at all! I love advice!

[@ChrisIlett]

@@BobbyHuff That right there is a lesson on how to be a great sport.

[@petervad]

Because he was taking so long to get to the point of the video I played it at 1.5x speed. The song sounded great - bit like Green Day.

[@nathanjudd23]

1.25 sounds like a banger 🎉

[@ToddErickson207]

My hero in the room with me... Mo Mentum! 😂

[@kobuk]

The new guitar part sounds more interesting/modern as well. The way it bends down in pitch.

[@BobbyHuff]

Thank u!

[@recordman555]

Love it - Bobby, you are the Chief of surgery!

[@BobbyHuff]

Haha! Thank u!

[@Newmusicreview]

Sounds Like something from The Sweet ;-)

[@paulkerriage4470]

Nice one, Doc. Kerching! effect in intro 👍 Some Beatles related-tips? 👍

[@BobbyHuff]

Thanks Paul!

[@toddscot4988]

My songs drag…..lol!!!!

[@BobbyHuff]

Hahahahaha

[@MySambolina]

AWESOME info, Bobby! These are things I'd never considered. Now, I'll have to redo my entire project - AGAIN - LOL. Btw, LOVE the shirt. LOL

[@BobbyHuff]

Hahaha!

[@atleengelstad5303]

The original mix would be good for a extended vesion though...., I kind of liked that first mix, but I see your point.... great video...., and when I play my mixes to other people, , I tend to read them, and "listen with THEIR ears" if you know what I mean....

[@BobbyHuff]

Thanks and great point!

[@Tekkerue]

LOL! I literally skipped ahead when you were playing the first version. I listened to the first couple bars and was like... ok, I get it... SKIP! 😂

[@BobbyHuff]

Hahaha

[@eeztulk]

Very cool! I needed to hear this!Thanks! BTW...the tune has a cool Imperial Drag vibe!

[@BobbyHuff]

Thanks for listening

[@Owl-qh2rh]

Very cool! Totally agree! I heard it drag.on the first run through and then you went into it.. ahh im getting there.. what you did definitely brought life and movement to the part! Having your hero in the room is a great ear and mind opener and totally helps shift your focus and lifts a veil, i had something similar to this happen recently and your vid totally confirms my own experience! Love it doc! Keep up the great work! Bless 🙏🕊️

[@BobbyHuff]

Thanks Owl! Love back at ya!

[@houseofosborne1173]

Thanks, preciate it!

[@BobbyHuff]

No problem!

[@HugoArgentina]

I love you, Doc, but the idea that 'the greatest of the [music] industry are the best ones at grabbing the attention of the common listener' is absurd. I guess we disagree on the meaning of 'greatest.' Surely one cannot deny that they're the best at reaching the masses; that's a pretty objective, relatively easy thing to measure. The material that falls into that category is seldom the greatest. A lot of it is actually garbage. Though I guess in making that pronouncement, I'm committing the modern cardinal sin of passing judgment-the blasphemy of pronouncing one piece of art better than another. For the only sensible modern thing to say is that 'it's subjective,' the myth goes. Thank you for your great videos

[@BobbyHuff]

Thanks. My hero’s are the greatest at their craft in my opinion maybe not everyone’s opinion. Because I hold them in such high regard it really focuses my attention to play them songs or to pretend they are with me listening to my music. If your hero’s are different than mine the technique still works just swap out the names.

[@bobbarney1923]

Brilliant video! Thanks for sharing this !

[@BobbyHuff]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@aaronhuffmusic]

Really brilliant video, very thorough and well thought out. Love this!

[@BobbyHuff]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@eancurtis9333]

Awesome

[@BobbyHuff]

Thanks for watching!

[@BrentIraEnman]

Good advice!

[@BobbyHuff]

Glad you think so!

[@anthonyschultz6801]

Great trick! Love your videos! Super helpful stuff!

[@BobbyHuff]

Thank you Anthony!

[@davebops2478]

Good advice Bobby.

[@BobbyHuff]

Thanks Dave!

[@gorillaice1229]

Always great content!

[@JanPanCygan]

I Love the riff and the parts of the song you show us. Cool, you rock mr Bobby. Great lesson too. Thank you

[@BobbyHuff]

Glad you liked it!