NO! Red eyes do not mean evil, and this is why...

[@duckyou2732]

“ Eye Color is just eye color. Unless they are doing drugs” This might be the best quote I ever heard XD

[@duckyou2732]

The transformer drug, y e s

[@abhimanyusingh7685]

😂😂😂😂 I was about to right the same thing.... This is the best quote hands down

[@mistylover2082]

Always thought RED eyes meant they never got enough sleep at night 😏

[@duckyou2732]

XD

[@unripetheberrby6283]

True

[@ct-buzzerct1776]

Soundwave:”You guys are getting eyes?”

[@CQBlitz0]

Talk about it. I suffered the same non-eyed fate

[@GrizbyK72]

Sound wave design kicks ass though.

[@LnmHive]

Shockwave: You guys are getting eyeS?

[@monishapm355]

He has a face,it's just hidden under his visior

[@emerald_s9023]

Soundwave does have eyes there just covered with his visor 😂

[@francescolombardi3438]

Megatronus: Hey, Solas, i like you. Don't come to the Council tomorrow

[@DeeRizz]

Francesco Lombardi Yeah because he destroys it he is already evil

[@ProcyonDei]

@@DeeRizz If you look up, you may see the majestic silver-winged joke flying right over you.

[@captainfordo2938]

I think it should be "Don't come to the Realm of The Primes Tomorrow" cause during the days of the Primes they were the only Cybertronians that existed back then so there was no High Council.

[@DeeRizz]

ProcyonDei Megatron already almost destroy cybertron

[@weplayshit1849]

I am ur 323rd like

[@wargaurdian6010]

Lets not forget Airachnid, her eyes are purple yet she's as cold as Megatron.

[@-Wayla-]

Maybe even worse. Megatron is cruel, but he is also understanding. Airachnid is a brutal, cold, sparkless killer.

[@thegreeter7027]

They look more magenta than purple

[@Kuwagattai]

@@thegreeter7027 close enough, also yeah Airachnid is BRUTAL

[@wildevergreen9047]

She's also a spider. She's an eight legged fiend out to multiply and spread her brutality.

[@mongeau98]

Airachnid acte like Unicron Like kill as she can, brutalize and torment if she doesn't intend to kill besides she seeks destruction like Unicron

[@nataliaborys1554]

The biggest argument against red=evil is honestly that red means... probably nothing to cybertronians. We, humans, associate red with bad things because it's the color our blood and bleeding is obviously a bad thing. If anything, blue would be the bad color to them since their blood is blue. Although it's the color it shares with their primary source of nurishment, so I'd say blue is neutral to them as well.

[@emperorkumquat]

Exactly. But even after I made this video, people are still saying, "I think red means aggression/ hostility". They can't see past our own cultural views and are stuck on it

[@brawmankerlexterminateurde860]

@@emperorkumquat don't forget that BlitZwing said in bumblebee "you are a traitor to cybertron" so for the decepticons point of view for the autobutts they see them as blue demons on cybertron and gosh I wish there was a funny character like starscream to said they are the terrorcons of cybertron with those blue energon eyes

[@cjelsen-leonard4745]

red means anger not evil

[@emperorkumquat]

CJ Elsen Why would red represent anger?

[@cjelsen-leonard4745]

@@emperorkumquat what other colors are linked to anger

[@naillil1003]

Actually, the thing behind eye color was the optics themselves, if you read the books. Optics could be damaged and such just like our own eyes, impairing sight and even causing blindness. When this happened back on Cybertron, their optics were simply replaced, and when they were, there were different kinds of optics to choose from. Some that had better focusing abilities, better distance sight, etc. The higher casts usually chose the ones with the blue color. They could be damaged more easily, but they were more elegant and slightly in their opinion. Besides, with the work they did, they didn’t need to have invincible optics. And if you look at it, a lot of the Autobots came from the higher cast, or cleaner cities like Iacon. Almost all of the Decepticons, on the other hand, came from Kayon (sorry if I misspelt it...), and most of them were gladiators. They were damaged frequently in the work they did, and I’m sure their optics took a hit. Therefore, because they couldn’t afford frequent repairs, they chose the sturdier red optics, even though they weren’t as pretty. So, no. The color of a bot’s optics has nothing to do with their allegiance. Rather, it was a combination of where they came from and what suited their work best. And canonically, I’m pretty sure Megatron’s optics were always red, even when he was still called Megatronus. I think having him with blue optics in Prime was just to show the change of heart inflicted by his own jealousy, which isn’t how things work. Other than that bit, Prime’s backstory followed the books perfectly.

[@KingSnuggelo]

Same conclusion I got. But you have much better evidence and reasoning.

[@dreademperor2094]

Even before watching this video I knew something was off in that part of Ratchet's story of Optimus and Megatron

[@kirb2electric]

So technically the cons have better optics than the autobots

[@StarryInkArt]

I honestly love this idea and this canon alot more then "red is bad and blue is good"

[@mavericktjo4548]

​@@kirb2electric Pretty much

[@Xynam0]

Megatron just got really disappointed after the high counsel rejected him, so he just smoked weed and it permanently turned his eyes red

[@trulor]

LMAO

[@monicamccolgan3542]

I agree that the flashback scene is a bit confusing. My theory is that Megatron naturally has red optics and a more menacing frame, but had himself reformatted to appeal to higher caste bots and the council so that they would offer him the position of prime. When Orion Pax was given the title, he reverted to his natural optic color and later a more ferocious appearance. He no longer wanted or needed to appeal to higher caste bots.

[@namiriora5228]

Oh, I like that theory. I always assumed some kind of cosmetic change happened.

[@michaeldunlap1032]

Actually, if you read the war for cybertron prequel comic (which is what tf prime used for the flashback), he actually never changed his eyes to blue, he always kept his eyes red. I'd say the prequel comic is more reliable source than the flashbacks, as people tend to remember things differently. Lol

[@empireofitalypsstimfromano5025]

@@michaeldunlap1032 I Believe That Maybe He Just Did It When He Had To Do Some Big Diplomatic Things. Because He Wouldn't Want To Scare The Politicians With A Gladiator Look

[@concept5631]

I like that theory

[@N.I.A23]

The flashback is stupid. Megatron also gained sharp teeth and claws somehow....

[@beduardlex9289]

"...unless you're doing drugs" and a piece where Megatron is being uh... under Dark Energon... Damn, you have a sense of humor

[@fangirldreamer748]

He’s doing weed! 🤣😂🤣

[@KazzieBB]

While we don't have to change Scream's eyes to blue, its damn funny in Stop Me when he has a meltdown after Ratchet changes his colors

[@fandomflinx5289]

OH MY GOD, i literally thought of the same thing after i read that chapter and not long after watched this video when it was posted. i thought of the same thing and just laughed at the coincidence.

[@cashagon]

*GASP!* Another fan of that wondrous story!

[@warriormaiden9829]

What story is that? And where can I find it?

[@fandomflinx5289]

@@warriormaiden9829 its called Stop me by megadoomingir on fanfiction.net

[@warriormaiden9829]

@@fandomflinx5289 Awesome, thanks!

[@HORRIOR1]

I think the whole Blue eyes Red eyes thing is just something that harkens all the way back to G1. Decepticons had red because red eyes are scary. Autobots had blue eyes since blue is calming. It's a reference.

[@thenewbaronzyafton6860]

Then why didn't knockouts eyes turn blue when he joined the autobots in predacons rising

[@HORRIOR1]

@@thenewbaronzyafton6860 Well it is a reference, not an in-built faction feature.

[@0ArmoredSoul0]

I honestly thought that the color differences were primarily due to in built protocols and nutrient availability during creation, since I've seen it a pretty common theory that optics for Cybertronians are made from crystal structures, which would be altered by presences of different metals and minerals. Energon, being a mineral itself and likely one of the most common on Cybertron, would cause blue optics to be quite common as the crystalline optic structures absorbed the mineral. Being a planet made of metal, different metals likely had different concentrations in different areas, inducing crystal color shifts depending on those concentrations- Red coming from areas with high content, other forms of blue coming from high copper content, green from low oxygen, etc etc. It provides interesting food for thought about the flora and fauna that may have occurred in different locations on Cybertron, as well as what the current colorations could tell us about where different mecha may have come from. My thought on Megatron's eye color change is A) narrative illustration/artistic license, or -if maintained- B) a combination of protocol change in the moment and later surgical alteration. Because Megatron is nothing if not an Extra B*tch.

[@Rubywing4]

@Astroblaze the Reality Traverser Yeah, the colors some of their eyes are might actually be colors we humans can't see, like ultraviolet and infrared, instead being presented to us humans in colors we can see. After all, which colors do Cybertronians see? The same as humans do? Or perhaps beyond that? I think it says on the wiki that G1 Skyquake can see infrared - which, the wiki then notes, means that Skyquake would be able to see a fart. XD Perhaps some Cybertronians can see more colors than others, like how some humans have normal visions while others are colorblind or even completely devoid of color and can only see black, white and gray (which is an extremely rare condition and kinda cool to think about, though still sad ofc, since they can only see these three "colors"). 0ArmoredSoul0 I also really like that mineral/metal theory of yours. It seems pretty obvious that optics aren't made of metal but instead crystal, thus making them more delicate and easier to crack/break than their metal armor. I also like the idea that Cybertronians also need to eat metal and not just Energon, more for the sake of their health than for keeping themselves functioning. Strong metals like iron, chromium, titanium and tungsten are good for their armor's integrity and for the strength of their teeth (which original purpose is to chow on Energon crystals in their raw form, I've deduced) - and softer, weaker metals like magnesium, zinc and precious metals like gold, silver, copper and platinum are good for the immune system, as precious metals are more resistant to oxidation and acid corrosion. However, because of their softness, a diet consisting of too much soft and precious metal may also cause a bot's armor to become brittle, so a bot would have to keep a consistent diet of strong and weak metals for maximum health benefits. Kinda like eating fruits, veggies and dark chocolate, as dark chocolate has plenty of health benefits but also contains unhealthy fat so it's important to eat dark chocolate with as high a cacao percentage as possible for the best effects. Not that I think about Cybertronian biology a lot or anything. Okay I do, I have much passion for this franchise. :)

[@thunderwhip7056]

I really like that idea. A theory could be made that since the majority of decepticons have red optics and came from lower casts, they may have recieved lower quality energon than autobots resulting in the eye colour differences.

[@nickolaswilcox425]

theres also the point the video brought up about roles, different models would have had different default features and as you might notice quite a few decepticons are from mass produced models so any color preference in their design would have been multiplied greatly, in some of the continuities the mass produced models were treated as inferior beings so most of them would have joined the rebellion under megatron

[@plantainsame2049]

You know I have a head cannon The optimist's eyes the actual glass part of it are yellow while the lights are blue this is because while his eyes are normally depicted as blue they are occasionally depicted as yellow Like in Transformers crime they're blue but in rescue Box they're yellow this head can and shows that in light that occasionally appear yellow like the light of Griffin rock rather than the sneaking route he does in Transformers prime in the dark where the natural blue light will shine do

[@Jazmission]

Your voice is so calm and chill

[@tdpuuhailee8222]

But not too siries

[@kleenxwipes7776]

i could fall asleep to this chill voice

[@theclericbeast4real]

I want her to coo me with cybertronian history

[@VectorPrimeStopMotion]

Interestingly enough, in WfC and FoC red is a signature colour of the Autobots, and purple was the Decepticons'. But in the first mission of WfC Decepticon campaign we've seen yellow-coloured Autobots. Looks like the meaning of LED colour on the 'bots' body depends on the writer. Oh, by the way in "Transformers Galaxy Force" Primus himself had red eyes, and yet we have seen red eyes as a "mostly Decepticons'" feature since the G1. I think this will be a never-ending discussion.

[@thecrimson5769]

I was looking for this comment. A lot of community ( such as G1 and IDW) Red are completely relevant with Autobots, but why the Deceptics have red optics? (In general, these Communities have other optic colored characters, but the main theme always has blue vs. red)

[@VectorPrimeStopMotion]

@@thecrimson5769 This "Blue vs Red" theme even transitioned to the FoC online multiplayer (RiP multiplayer, by the way). I know that you can change it to the "Decepticons vs Autobots" in the settings but default theme sets blue as "friend" and red as "foe", so even creators of the game couldn't figure it out therefore they gave us an option.

[@jamaldeep13]

The LED colours matched the insignia colours, which is why Autobots had blue eyes and red LEDs while Decepticons had red eyes and purple LEDs. But as noted in the video the eye colours have exceptions

[@isaacdaffer1711]

@Vector Prime Stop Motion The yellow eyed Transformers in the first mission of WFC didn’t actually fight for either side, they were neutral in the war.

[@VectorPrimeStopMotion]

@@isaacdaffer1711 I don't know. I remember seeing Autobot insignia on them, but I might be wrong about that. Maybe it's due to reuse if the texture, but who knows.

[@jonahg4472]

Rescue Bots Boulder has Yellow eyes, Blades has Orange, and Heatwave has red, Blurr has Purple. Salvage and Hightide have green eyes. Chase and Quickshadow are the only members with blue eyes, and all of them are autobots.

[@spinotikus1518]

And Optimus has yellow eyes in this show 😉

[@SB-ker-my8ot]

I think it’s a matter, like the Bumblebee movie, where red is meant to signify rage, more so primal, deep rooted anger…

[@rockification]

Keep in mind that movie is a different canon

[@_m3rcy544]

picklesandbeyond I hate that ‘movie’

[@blazewolf999]

I could see some color control in cybertronian anatomy on some level. With changes that can be permanent due to either an intake of certain types of energon, with the stable 'normal' types used as general food sources not having any changes, but the ones generally associated with steroids or energy drinks having a temporary change that can be permanent that goes along with the whole 'its a drug' effect. With infected, corrupted, Unicron blood/dark energon, or energon that has 'gone bad' the way food does for us could have a different eye color changing effect. Now this also could be something that they cant change as part of energon use, with variations of the same eye color they are 'born with' being something that they might be able to change like variations of each eye color being able to be changed at whim like us putting on contacts that change eye color.

[@RequiemPoete]

Which makes no sense with a creature whose blood is blue. We associate red with rage because our blood is red. We get red in the face when angry cause of increased blood pressure and dialation of blood vessels. If Cybertronians would associate any color with rage it would be blue.

[@kuusakat1308]

@Requiem Eye They just stated their opinion???

[@carolart4700]

I think sometimes it's just aesthetic ✨ Knockout would tell you- Also, there was a bot who changed their eye color in TFP! Smokescreen changed from autobot blue into indigo when picking new colors for vehicle mode. So probably for some bots it's clearly an aesthetic thing.

[@Rubywing4]

Oh yeah, I always thought his eyes looked slightly darker and more blue than the other Autobots' mostly cyan eyes.

[@carolart4700]

@@Rubywing4 maybe a bit? Idk, but I know they changed XD

[@oneangryboi408]

I could imagine somebot like Knockout had his eyes red for the sake of his scheme.

[@carolart4700]

@@oneangryboi408 i agree but this is the first time I heard someone use "somebot" and i feel like were tumbling down the same road as bronies

[@RoyalInspiration]

“Riddle me this fam” -Emperor Kumquat

[@Lolxlol21_]

1:14 It could have been his own choise to change his eye Colour, just like how they can change there decals, (like Camo mode), so he could have changed his eye to stand out for exsample.

[@rayo146-x8x]

People forgetting that Optimus Primal had red eyes and was leader of the Maximals.

[@GrizbyK72]

Never thought of that before holy shit.

[@otterwithadarkside3656]

IIRC, aren't Silverbolt and Airazor the only Maximals without red eyes?

[@Breadn]

You brought up some really good points I never even thought of before, well done! As much as we can theorize, it's most likely just so the viewers know red means evil and blue means friendly, not much more.

[@ethanlee4623]

Make a Knockout video (he's my favourite character, nicest vehicle mode by far)

[@MrMtheZed]

JUICY

[@Tron89000]

Anonymous User this is the best reply to a comment I’ve ever seen

[@emperorkumquat]

What topic interests you?

[@MrMtheZed]

Shockwave's vast intellect?

[@ethanlee4623]

@@emperorkumquat I dunno, anything would be alright. A meme video about Knockout or an in-depth one about his relationship with Breakdown would be cool.

[@ToaKoran]

My best guess about eye association is that either Megatron had blue eyes originally, but after Optimus was picked over him he was so angry, and vengeful that he decided to change his eye color to the same as a bot he ideologically idolized to start a movement thus leading to deceptions having red eyes. That, or Megatron always had red eyes, so anyone that joined the Deceptions made their eyes red as a symbol of their leader, but the war went on for so long that by the time Breakdown joined it was already mostly forgotten that they changed their eye colors so he, and possibly Lockdown still had their natural eyes.

[@TheAutisticOwl]

Same goes for me. Because I have an OC big girl(that I haven't drawn yet) who was with the Decepticons but after seeing how insane Megatron was, broke away silently. And her eyes/optics, tho they are red, look rather trustworthy. Okay, I dont where I was going with that.

[@pistolpoppop6350]

My oc still in the decepticons but he's natural compared to the others

[@Soundwave._]

Nah I get you, designing OCs while considering Cybertronian cultural paradigms rather than human ones is really important! I have a blue-eyed monoformer psychiatrist who'd probably look very calming with her silver and turquoise paintjob to a human, but she is an extremely manipulative Decepticon who looks uncanny to her peers due to her lack of kibble.

[@echo8083]

Maybe they made the "red - bad, blue - good" just so new viewers of the series will easily understand who is what. Or purely for artistic reasons.

[@brendathevehicon]

That's where it originated, definitely. the 80s were a time, and even when some autobots were turned "evil" they got red eyes. Theyve been using the same eye colours for three decades now, it would be weird to turn a bunch of bots whod been blue-eyed for so long red (or vice versa) I don't know what I want the cause for optic colour to be, but that's definitely where it came from.

[@eu29lex16]

@@brendathevehicon Yeah.

[@venom890]

Plus talking about Alignment, in the IDW comics "more than meets the eye" and "lost light" it's explained that to show said alignment and to prove loyalty the decepticon badges are created with a pice of the spark case of the cybertronian who wishes to join the decepticon cause

[@wyattharbes7205]

i think that Megatron turned his eyes blue to look more heroic to the public to get them on his side

[@BlooMonkiMan]

In the flashback, his purple secondary coloring is changed to red as well

[@killergamer3211]

I never thought I'd ever hear the sentence "his crotch tells us so" in my life. I'm dying on the floor

[@Gold71203]

Could you make a video on Soundwave? He’s always been one of my favorites but his TFP iteration is the best by far in terms of design and personality

[@emperorkumquat]

I did talk about his relationship with Laserbeak, but if you would like another topic, do you want to suggest one?

[@noahvadertheberserkerpacki6604]

Bro, I was just thinking about you uploading this. I wasn't expecting it this soon. What a happy surprised! I really enjoy the TFP and Alligned novels. Keep up the excellent work!

[@emperorkumquat]

A 13 minute video using clips instead of pictures is now nothing compared to that novel summary

[@noahvadertheberserkerpacki6604]

@@emperorkumquat I can imagine. Thank you for that however. It was entertaining

[@justamicrowave]

Don't do drugs kids, or your eyes will change to the color...of the...drugs...? (Who wrote this into the script?!)

[@mistylover2082]

My eyes just turned 🌈 that normal? Also in some videos I see I sometimes always hear the ( this is some autistic writing) or something.... Why is that?!?!? Always calling things autistic and as one of them btw even though I probably wish I actually wasn't and born normal..... Still. Everything has to be autistic or something 😐🤔

[@Rubywing4]

@@mistylover2082 Yay, another autistic person! :D

[@ToscaTee]

@@mistylover2082 I feel you, my brother is autistic. It really offends me every-time someone used “autistic” as an insult or as a way to imply brain-damage ://

[@mistylover2082]

@@ToscaTee like saying Bacon to a 🐖🐷. 🐷 : say bacon one more time 😑

[@thegreeter7027]

@@mistylover2082 bacon

[@elitegamer21005]

The color doesn’t mean anything the Dinobots have Red Eyes and they’re Autobots to an extent

[@konvoi]

I like the idea of genetics, considering shock wave does draw attention to cybertronian genetics when the predacons come around.

[@NotTyNope]

Not sure why this came up in my recommendations but it's cool to see that this show is remembered and still has fans lol.

[@natereath4966]

I also like that Transformers have different eye(optic) colors. It shows how complex their society is and how Autobots and Decepticons are different, yet similar. It reflects on how complex war is and that it's rarely ever black and white. I also never knew that story about megatronous. sadly, all I ever saw of him was his portrayal in rid

[@samuellasky7771]

This was a great video, very in-depth analysis about something I'd never thought about before Like actually *never* thought about I don't even like transformers, why am I here? Again, though, great video, I was engaged the whole time

[@infiniteoctopaw]

Minimus Ambus, Fortress Maximus, thunderclash, Dai Atlas, All of theses are Autobots with red eyes. Most on this list is some of the goodest bois in the series.

[@Arias_Voice]

With regards to Prima being an asshole to Megatronus, this is where I will further emphasize the hypocrisy of the apparent good guys. They claim to love all, yes they are suspicious of those who they consider evil, without investigating their personalities further.

[@kamewantor4594]

there is one short but good argument, аutobot's symbol is *red*

[@TheUncivilizedNation]

Optimus Prime and Alpha Trion (the two greatest leaders that most Cybertronians are aware of) are primarily red and blue

[@thenekokatze1141]

This reminds me to Metal Gear Rising, Raiden has red eyes for half of the game, but he isn't evil... he just likes to kill and takes advantage of that to kill evil people

[@md-im8qp]

also megatron's eyes changed when his intensions changed. maybe there is a link to it?

[@emperorkumquat]

No, his intentions were always the same. Also, again, again... why red?

[@MrMtheZed]

Intimidation?

[@kickbrosmasher5155]

Maybe his rage?

[@md-im8qp]

@@emperorkumquat he started as a poor miner then became a revolutionist, and then he saw council making orion a prime instead of him. his ambitions, greed, pride thwarted at the same time which made him a warlord. do you think his intentions were same all the time?

[@md-im8qp]

@@emperorkumquat and also you gave an exapmle from rid but rid is more based on children Id say cause of their humour, non humanoid types etc. I believe color is another reason to get children attracted

[@pancho855]

Plot twist: RID 2015 Megatronus was actually Sideways.

[@SourelppA]

I think it could have something to do with body modification, or something like that. As it was stated in the prime universe to be a flyer meant you needed surgery. So maybe it has something to do with that, or perhaps it was changed to be the same as blaster fire, as we see all of the cons blaster fire is red, while the bots is normally blue.

[@kennethsatria6607]

I wonder if it has relation to red energon and how it can grant more power in speed but cause its hard to process they mixed it with regular energon

[@emperorkumquat]

You only need surgery to be a flier if you were not "born" as one. Seekers were the natural fliers who got pushed into the military from creation

[@SourelppA]

Emperor Kumquat learn something new everyday

[@NotMyRealName6]

Animated and Bayformers are the only universes actually try to make "blue eyes good, red eyes bad" a plot point. Animated when Megatron brands the Constructicons with Decepticon insignias, at which point they gain red eyes on top of traditional Constructicon colors, and the Bayverse when Optimus Prime's eyes turn red while under mind control. The Bayverse comics also had a blue-eyed Megatron before he encountered The Fallen, gaining his red eyes after coming under The Fallen's influence. I suppose the G1 episode "Attack of the Autobots" counts too, but that was honestly one of the sillier episodes, even by G1 standards, and even in G1 it wasn't a hard and fast rule (Soundwave's yellow visor coming to mind right away).

[@games_on_phone89]

"and the Bayverse when Optimus Prime's eyes turn red while under mind control" my man, that was purple

[@re57k]

the Blue vs Red thing always reminds me of "NATO vs the Soviet Union" Where NATO is supposedly the good guys and the Soviet Union were supposedly the bad guys Still, great video as usual.

[@eu29lex16]

Lol, I was thinking about that, autobots are like NATO and decepticons are like soviet union ! Soviet unions also started with ideals of freedom and equality, like the decepticons, but ended up being oppressive and evil slavers themselves.

[@BlooMonkiMan]

That's probably the allegory they were going for. NATO = blue = good vs USSR = red = bad

[@wehrmachthans9749]

In the aligned continuity's game Fall of Cybertron, some Autobot soldiers have red eyes.

[@bluemoon2773]

I am a sucker for TFP Star redemption, but I’ve never actually liked fics that give him blue eyes. His red eyes just suit him better like Knockout

[@fangirldreamer748]

Knockout looks pretty cool with blue eyes!

[@-Wayla-]

@@fangirldreamer748 I don't like it really.. It doesn't fit his red body.

[@gamebot404]

Also megatron had smooth fingers when you look at his statue in the back story but now he has sharp fingers

[@darkspyro1634]

The eye colour pretty much means nothing. Grimlock in the 4th bay movie had red eyes in both his modes. And sentinel prime still had blue eyes when he joined the cons. And devastator had green eyes, and he was a decepticon, and im pretty sure that demolisher in the 2nd bay movie had yellow eyes and Frenzy had blue eyes.

[@games_on_phone89]

but that's a different continuity now isn't it?

[@darkspyro1634]

@@games_on_phone89 my point still stands! Breakdown was a con and had yellow eyes and arachnid had pink.

[@eu29lex16]

Eye color does mean something i nthis show, genius, but not all shows handle eye color in the same way, use your head.

[@eu29lex16]

@@games_on_phone89 Yes.

[@eu29lex16]

@@darkspyro1634 It doesn't stands, your point breaks apart the moment you equilize different shows ! Different shows are like different governments, of course they have different laws in the same way they handle color differently.

[@livt8082]

I almost spit out my drink at 11:47 XD. I love your explanation and it makes a lot of since with the information you’ve gathered from both TFP and the other shows and comics.

[@unripetheberrby6283]

9:10 That could be a good warning sign for illnesses that'll need to be cured for their species! If *all* illnesses did that, however they don't all have to.

[@thedarthknight3483]

I just assumed it was just Megatron intently changing it to show his disobedience with the rest of cybertron, to differentiate them with what they once were

[@shinrafugitives3880]

I remembered experiencing some serious cognitive dissonance when I saw the bionicle movies, in which all the toa had red eyes, but when vakama was seduced to the side of makuta, his eyes turned green. Im convinced that was majorly intended to subvert the color coding trope and I've come to appreciate that. I miss the days when subverting tropes actually had meaning.

[@Chantal_P-v4x]

My theory was always that optic colors could be tied, at least in part, to where on Cybertron a bot came from - much like race, and its physical attributes, for humans.

[@Grayismyname]

11:52 Of all words when talking about transformers...

[@daisymay6505]

Soundwave: autobot optic colors: illogical

[@jacobgillispie1175]

When Megatron consumes dark energon his eyes changed purple My personal opinion was It just depends on the type of energon consumed. Rachets turned green after consuming artificial energon. I felt like blue was the least common and cheapest (why Megatron have blue eyes in the beginning was because he was a slave and probably couldn't afford the good stuff) and I imagine the decepticons being richer than autobots during the end of the war ( deceptions had the big ship and all those resources) .

[@ReaIbentIey]

Great video 👍 my theory is that they can change their eye color unless changed by something that can corrupt the spark chamber like the dark energon and the synthetic. The reason Orion never changed his eye color is because he either never knew he had blue eyes or he always had his suspicions about megaton being a bad guy and knockout probably never changed because he accepts his past and wants to remember it almost like a lesson I love your videos

[@glitchwolf1384]

I come here, expecting a rant about red eyes in all of fiction and culture, or maybe even a synthetic defending their preferred eye colour, but no, you somehow wrapped me into watching a whole-ass transformers video. Good job.

[@sashabraus9422]

I'd assume red eyed are usually for the "drone" cast, letting them see easier in the dark energon mines. While blue eyes are seen as something "high class," so bots might change their eye colors to that just to make them look better.

[@KingSnuggelo]

Aha, Potato-girl came to the same conclusion I did!

[@sashabraus9422]

@@KingSnuggelo We're wicked smart

[@hannabiel8541]

Fun fact: in some comics showing Starscreams past he has blue/yellow eyes :3

[@Lolxlol21_]

2:14 Megs has always reminded me of a Shark!🦈

[@GhaniKeSawah]

Megalodon Megatron Coincidence? I think yes

[@yousrios]

I’m really enjoying your videos please don’t stop randomly

[@xavierpoole760]

9:20 I think the Red eyes are kinda like Human Blood in the manner that some would be universal, and wouldn't change the eyes. Let me explain. Red Energon, could be the main fuel of the red eyed ones, which is kinda like Human Blood types in the manner that some change the Character and some don't. For Example, O blood is Very Important among Humans because it is universal, and can go with Every other blood type. Maybe the Red eyes ones are fueled by mainly Red Energon, and Regular Energon is like the Equivalent of O blood in the manner that it can enter a Cybertronian's bloodstream without changing anything. I think the blood Analogy is Logical since they always refer to Energon as "The life blood of Cybertronians."

[@thegreeter1476]

Red Energon is haste not main fuel

[@kovval8835]

And red energon is very rare

[@mistylover2082]

@@kovval8835 just like female transformers are 2 😏

[@spartanratz7402]

i was first introduced to this channel like 2 days ago with that vehicon video and now i love all of this channel

[@LukeeBoi]

I never though of it that way

[@theheatedoneplus2463]

I have a theory, all the the red eyed decepticons didnt originally have red eyes, but they changed the colour to show allegiance to megatron and his red eyes

[@aleximuslopez4028]

I've been really enjoying your videos lately, especially since I'm rewatching prime right now. I'd love to hear your thoughts on what if smokescreen became a prime. Not necessarily in a video, but maybe just a response to this comment.

[@drekiei]

There's also the ability to change eye color for aesthetics through upgrades and modifications

[@stunnastream11]

0:19 Karen wanting to see the manager

[@pyr0.04]

I agree with eyes just being unique to anyone. Optimus Primal had red eyes and he wasn't evil.

[@williamsmith9946]

I feel like the eye color is just for the sake of kids so they know DESE GUYS ARE GOOD, dese guys are bad

[@donniemann6927]

What if Cybertronians could manually change their optic-colour? That'd make sense as to why Megatron's optics changed from blue to red after Orion stepped on his speech at the council.

[@tomokogrey7825]

Perhaps eye color could relate to emotion rather than personality. See, Decepticons in this continuity are angry about the corruption on Cybertron. The politicians may not have red because they are happy with their lives. And blue could also relate to other emotions like content. As for yellow, that could be just more neutral or self doubt or primitiveness or something like that. Purple could relate to sadism since it's a mix between red and blue. Just a theory. Although your idea of it just being a natural thing is more likely since there are a lot of holes in my theory.

[@josesanchez-us3yd]

for greens eyes is like how many years you have stay on earth for a lonnnnnnnnnnng time like lockdown and the iacon knight

[@Sikorsky1111]

What about yellow optics?

[@emperorkumquat]

Natural eye colour. Video says everything is natural and meaningless

[@Sikorsky1111]

@@emperorkumquat Correct.

[@leonalim4049]

Most Decepticons have red eyes because red eyes is quite common and most of the population was Megatron's followers

[@prabhjotdhesi4015]

Never heard a female said “fam” until now 😂 4:27

[@zexalcommander7036]

Really? From my experience, i’ve came to the conclusion it’s a slang term used more by females than males.

[@username.exenotfound2943]

It think the megatron blue eye thing is just to show the younger audiences that megatron was good then turned bad

[@jeremiahgalvan2126]

Red eyes is a sign of anger and rage Blue eyes is a sign of peace and harmony

[@brendathevehicon]

but space alien no see same as we but in origin, when Transformers was first created, that was definitely the intention. We're mostly looking for in-universe reasons rn.

[@Redfoxjack]

Well just going off the 80s continuity the decptacons were built by the Quintessons to be there military product line so it could just be a case of red eyes=intimidating

[@Deathy75]

They have red and blue eyes bc it was a kids show, ofc they had to distinguish bad from good, and ofc you can't force a kid to get into the lord of transformers

[@Goattj0809]

I'm gona make a theory that maby the pollution in kayon may have made the eyes red

[@dragonorbminecraft]

Theory, all Cybertronian eyes are white but they have optional "contact lenses" they can choose to pop in So when Megatron went "F this" he just changed his lenses like how a goth kid applies eyeliner

[@confusedtanuki9028]

Arcee's optics also have some pink in them and the shade of blue isn't really consistent from bot to bot.

[@Unclesamsonite_]

Well obviously megatron awakened his sharingan during the council meeting and thats why his eyes were red

[@Polymerata]

i heard autobot or cybertronian is a worker class and that the decepticon or slave gladiator is a military. from my pov the red eye might be a heat vision/heat seeking eye (although this is useless for cybertronian species)

[@EskaytheSquirrel]

"Eyecolor is just eyecolor, unless your doing drugs." YEP!

[@omegasynth2775]

Actually yeah, in Fall of Cybertron which is in the Aligned Continuity I think, Shockwave was a flier. I always had this weird theory that after his little last encounter with Grimlock, he decided to have some surgery to become a Tank-Type Decepticon to become both more fearful and more resilient.

[@michaeldunlap1032]

Yeah I think so too. Hell, even the prime comic "rage of the dinobots" actually strengthens this theory, since they actually show he has his prime design already in most of the comic, while in some flashbacks (which are mostly scenes taken from the FOC game), he's shown with his WFC/FOC design, so yeah, he definitely did surgery on himself after grimlock bite his arm.

[@SumThingFawful]

If anything I think it's just artist depictions for the audience to understand blue good guys red bad. Easy color association.

[@thesenate9564]

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[@TheStriderSyd]

Well....the original G1 animated TV show was the 1st to implement the whole "eye-color-denotes-alligiance" trope. But I always thought that this was just production choice by the show runners to further differentiate the "good guys/bad guys" thing for the kids. The original toyline and MARVEL comics seemed to totally NOT CARE about it at all. The eyes in the toys/comics varied from red, blue, silver, gold, etc. etc. It has been shown that the TF's could consciously change their body color at will or by paint jobs, so I don't think it'd have been a stretch to say that they could change their eyes at will too. The old Go-Bots cartoon never bothered with eye color or insignias either. But in THAT show.....the only way to tell the good guys from the bad guys, was to listen to their voices. All the "good guys" had an echoing in their voices, whereas all the "bad guys" had a kind of vibration or reverb in theirs.

[@norizzatty9229]

You brought up many valid points, if we to refer continuities, in Unicron's Trilogy there were a few bots and cons that have other coloured optics, like you pointed out, blue and red being the most common. We have Bluur and Red Alert with red, Optimus with yellow and Starscream orange(later change to silver). Generally, there might be a lot of factors contributing to this phenomenon but I think if we consider how human eyes work it might be possible that is related to their CNA, an inherited trait/autosomal dominant inheritance passed down the line, the 13 Primes being the Original and all or there is an instance of a mutation happening triggering in the colour change. As a designer though, I think colours play an important role in representation and communication. In the early continuities, they opted the stereotypical colour scheme to represent the good vs. evil route. Glad they change it up over the years cause it was beginning to feel a bit racist 😂

[@Jason_Wilhelm]

It could also be a sign of modification Cybertronians that join the military receive voluntary modification to their eyes to give them a combat edge a ton of deceptions had the modification some Autobots did. There may be a difference between the red eyes that were modified and the eyes that weren't.

[@SonicGamerProSGP]

Shoot! I confused the thumbnail with that robot villain in that 'Hot Wheels something something 5' cartoon

[@fluffywhompus]

I have a personal theory that diffrent eye colors meant diffrent abilities, like how since seekers and most working class cybertronians had red eyes it gave them perks like how they could enhance their vision or it gave them inferred and blue eyes could maybe be able to detect energon signatures or risidual energy. Yellow eyes could just be a sign of natural strength or just a more powerful being and orange eyes could show that its a diffrent species (if that wasnt already obvious) or that its a clone considering almost all the vehicons are clones (i couldn't think of anything else that orange eyes would indicate or give) and any unnatural color is just a foreign contaminate in the body .i.e. synthetic energon and dark energon. Also the pink eyes might just show that that cybertronian could control insecticons or that they can take on more organic looking alt modess

[@joshuayow4653]

Perhaps there ideological differences are litteraly a result of " how they see the world ", perhaps one sees in infrared and the outher in ultraviolet? A trait of lineage as it were or perhaps it's "psychosomatic" having to be put into a position to go against their nature of creation has lead to physical changes. Just spit balling, but any of these explanations are better than " blue good, red bad".

[@NightcrawlerNC]

Just wanted to mention metroplex in the game also had red eyes

[@zeograndmaster6507]

Spectacular analysis, and I'd like to put forth a suggestion for that troublesome Megatronus blue-eyed scene. That entire segment was told through the POV of Ratchet as he talks to impressionable children. Who's to say it wasn't an honest retelling? We already know he hates the Decepticons, doesn't see minicons as equals, and was fine with torturing a vehicon while under the influence. Seems pretty fair to assume Ratchet flavoured his story to depict the red eyed Decepticons more negatively. Hell, he made NO effort to explain to the kids what situation Megatronus was even in.... Maybe this can be it's own video? XD

[@emperorkumquat]

That's why I mentioned Jack because there was a possibility it could have been warped

[@viktorjupiter4616]

As to Megatron's eye color changing after Orion speaks to the Senate. I believe this is metaphorical rather than literal. The story is being told by ratchet (if I remember correctly) and the eye color change can represent Ratchets dislike of Megatron when he makes the decision to "become evil". Or, as he did change his body to transform into a jet, as he was born a tank, maybe with the modification he gained red eyes as most fliers seem to have red eyes and grounders seem to have blue eyes.

[@ChristianProtossDragoon]

Megatron from TFP is a plane. he was never a tank.

[@viktorjupiter4616]

@@ChristianProtossDragoon I may be tweaking, but I heard somewhere he was born/created a tank (in the books/comics/literature pre-show) and then changed to a plane bc it's more effective. Idk I may be tweaking you could be right.

[@necrochemical5572]

People think entirely too hard on things that don't matter.