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Hawaii Detailing

Hawaii Detailing

Күн бұрын

LEARN HOW TO NO RINSE CAR WASH WITH 2 GALLONS OF WATER. Optimum No Rinse Wash & Shine methods of use detailed below. Links to all the products below. I purchased optimum no rinse “ONR” as a way to wash my car with no rinse between details. I find that it is quick and easy and enables you to keep your car looking clean at all times. I put Optimum No Rinse through a tough test with my super dirty Nissan Leaf. I demonstrate 3 different techniques that I use during my detail process.
00:00 INTRO
04:25
#1 The Dry Rub (Microfiber towel is soaked with Optimum No Rinse, paint is dry): I personally almost never use this technique. I only demonstrated this as it is listed on the label as the go to process so I wanted to be sure to include it. It did work well but I would only use this technique on very lightly soiled vehicles or to spot clean a small area.
Advantages: Can be done quickly with very little resources. Uses least amount of product and water (approx. 2 gallons)
Disadvantages: With dirty paint it can seem as if there is a high likelihood of scratching paint. I don’t have any evidence to suggest that it scratches the paint but I find way better results with method #2 or #3.
06:36
#2 The Pre Soak: My favorite way to use Optimum No Rinse and is the way that I use it most of the time.
Advantages: After pre soaking, the Optimum No Rinse soaked microfiber towel glides across the dirty paint with no resistance.
Disadvantages: Requires a spray bottle but this is really minor. Uses a small amount of extra product and water (approx. 2 1/2 gallons)
07:43
#3 Pre Soak with Pressure Washer: I use this technique when the vehicle is extra dirty. I pre soak and pressure wash 1 panel at a time to avoid waterspots.
Advantages: Most dirt comes off during pressure washing. minimizing the possibility of scratching paint. Washing with Optimum No Rinse after pressure washing is extremely easy and safe for the paint.
Disadvantages: Requires a pressure washer. Uses more water (approx. 14.5 gallons). Pressure washer uses 1.7 gallons per minute. It takes approx. 7 minutes of pressure washing to complete. That’s about 12 extra gallons of water. + 2 1/2 gallons for the Optimum No Rinse mix.
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@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing 3 жыл бұрын
The long awaited winner of the ONR Giveway: Congratulations Tesla Treasures you are the winner. Yeahhhh. You will love the product. I will message you about shipping of your bottle of ONR. Enjoy!
@Jeff1960G
@Jeff1960G 2 жыл бұрын
Good video. In Hawaii, the only dirt you have is road dirt or bird droppings, but for those in colder climates know all to well the road salt challenge. It would be nice to see a video on using ONR on a heavy salted car in the midwest. We can't escape it, we just have to deal with it. And the fact when it is cold, we have few washing options. Thank you!
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing 2 жыл бұрын
Good idea but I just don’t have that here. Thanks for watching
@lewismartinez5130
@lewismartinez5130 2 жыл бұрын
Chicago Auto Pros had such a video--March 4, 2021. Believe it or not, they used a steam cleaner to get the really caked on salt out.
@b374mxg
@b374mxg 3 жыл бұрын
That’s exactly how I do it. Multiple towels then in another bucket they go. Works like a champ
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing 3 жыл бұрын
That’s the best way to make sure you are not dragging dirt around the car. Thanks for watching.
@jerrodrawlinson9197
@jerrodrawlinson9197 2 жыл бұрын
I just bought a gallon of this stuff today based on your video. Just watching it one more time before I give it a shot.
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing 2 жыл бұрын
It’s good stuff. Very versatile product. Thanks for watching
@michaelbrown5041
@michaelbrown5041 3 жыл бұрын
Aloha from Molokai, Really digging your channel, headed over to O'ahu this afternoon to pick up my 2020 Lexus UX250h F Sport from Matson, take it to get tinted, and get it on Young Bros for the trip to Molokai. Different car but many of the same materials and maintenance processes, it was in Alaska over the winter and wasn't able to be maintained very well so it's going to need a full blown detail and paint correction, plus it will be covered in salt spray from the trip on Young Bros. Keep adding to your channel cause I enjoy your humor and your approach to car care. Aloha Nui Loa
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching the channel I appreciate it. Good to hear from someone from Molokai. Been there many of times.
@chrisrefaei
@chrisrefaei 2 жыл бұрын
ONR is amazing guys! in encapsulates and emulsifies the dirt. Some Tips, you can use it in your steamer to help make it run better, you can clean your windows with it better than any glass cleaner, you can use it as a clay lube agent, and of course all through out your interior as well! It's amazing how little like a half ounce in a bottle can get you! And it smells amazing too!
@alex-sd
@alex-sd 10 күн бұрын
I like the #2 and #3 method depending on how lazy I am and using the pressure washer. I like how you use several mf towels to eliminate the chance of rubbing any dirt on the paint. The ONR is great for encapsulating dirt but why risk your paint to any dirty water. I think one of the best things about using a rinseless wash is eliminating water spots.
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing 9 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing!!
@MatthewHurtado
@MatthewHurtado 4 жыл бұрын
Yes we did it we got first!!!
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing 4 жыл бұрын
thanks for always checking in first.
@jayz313
@jayz313 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, it was nice to see all three methods demo'd on one video. ONR and Bead Maker ate a killer combo. I have recently taken to TRC Ultra Black Sponge for both rinless and full contact washes, I like Auto fibers. 16 x 16 Dreadnought drying towels. Have you tried McKee's 37 N-914 Rinseless Wash? It is not polymer based.
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I have not tried McKee’s. I would like to try it. How do you like it compared to ONR?
@jayz313
@jayz313 4 жыл бұрын
@@HawaiiDetailing I like it better, I feel there is a little more lubrication, especially noticeable when drying with no drying aid. There chemicals are all designed by the same chemist so they are compatible, I like to use thier 10 minute paint sealant or one if thier soray waxes for a drying aid. N-914 is really great to use gir a panel wipe after compounding or polishing. With all that said, ONR is a great product, and slightly cheaper depending on the sale. Also Mckee"s products just started being sold at Advanced Auto.
@MatthewHurtado
@MatthewHurtado 4 жыл бұрын
Man I sure do hope I win this! That product will work great on the Tesla.
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing 4 жыл бұрын
So far you won. Until someone else gets in the race.
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing 4 жыл бұрын
Alright there are others in the race now.
@J1Z06
@J1Z06 3 жыл бұрын
Such a helpful video! thanks vey much.
@GenX.Bigfoot
@GenX.Bigfoot 3 жыл бұрын
I like the pretreat method and either go straight to the BRS and dry with beadmaker or if very dirty use the pressure washer to blast the pretreated dirt first then wash. Works great! THanks!
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and commenting. I appreciate it. Yeah the drywall rub is not the best option. I prefer the others too. Lol.
@nickbush9096
@nickbush9096 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve been wanting to try the ONR, I just haven’t researched how it works or how to use it properly. Thanks for the video!
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing 4 жыл бұрын
Nick Bush you are welcome
@nickbush9096
@nickbush9096 4 жыл бұрын
Hawaii Tesla & Detailing I watched your pressure washer set up video awhile ago and ordered the same setup. I got it installed and posted a pic online. About 50 people asked me how I got a grey karcher pressure washer, lol. ( I painted mine like yours, great idea btw.) I sent them a link to your video. Keep up the good videos!
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing 4 жыл бұрын
Nick Bush great to hear. I like using my pressure washer setup. It make things easy. Thanks for following the channel.
@calvinzheng4920
@calvinzheng4920 4 жыл бұрын
This was really cool to learn about method 2 + 3. Finally found another use for the IK sprayer I just bought!
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing 4 жыл бұрын
Calvin Zheng Thanks. Glad you liked it.
@windyb416
@windyb416 2 жыл бұрын
I would really like to see a rinseless wash video where the car is covered in fine mud from heavy construction dirt on road and the mess that's created when water trucks and sweepers are running all day......what most videos show is lightweight dirt. Downtown Toronto near waterfront is a construction nightmare.....2 trips and my paint colour is unrecognizable below the windows. I have to pressure wash....then pre-soak .... then pressure again ....then rinseless. This winter in going to have to go through a touchless wash when sub zero.....that thought is concerning but I'll limit those visits
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing 2 жыл бұрын
That’s some tough no rinse conditions. It can be done but I would use about 12 microfiber towels in the buck and only wipe small sections and grab a new towel. The dirtier the more towels. I also would make sure that you have a really durable protection on the paint to make the dirt come off easy. Also use a high quality drying aid to keep that surface slick for the next wash. I would go for it. Let me know how it goes. Sorry I don’t have those conditions here or I would make a vid about it.
@windyb416
@windyb416 2 жыл бұрын
The reality is I'd prefer to do foam but can't due to city environmental laws. Currently using Turtle graphene flex wax but see the benifits of ceramic coatings. I do like the multi rag system👍
@hartlanddetailer5670
@hartlanddetailer5670 3 жыл бұрын
I can wash up to 10 cars with one gallon of ONR mix! WOW! I use one gallon of distilled water, add 1/2 oz. of ONR, mix. Yes, I do a modified version of Gary Dean method. I only put clean microfibers into mix, then wipe each dirty section, then dry with clean microfiber. Depending how dirty a car is, depends how many microfibers? I can wash my car 500 times for about $20.00, WOW! HAPPY CAR CLEANING!
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing. Yeah it’s good stuff. Really underrated. Thanks for watching
@larrys2554
@larrys2554 3 жыл бұрын
I like filling it from the bucket, great idea. Nice job on this video. Look forward to more.
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@RaldasDetails
@RaldasDetails 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video man!!!😎👍🏼👍🏼
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing 4 жыл бұрын
Ralda’s Details thanks a lot.
@MatthewHurtado
@MatthewHurtado 4 жыл бұрын
Ralda this channel is under rated give him a shout out!
@RaldasDetails
@RaldasDetails 4 жыл бұрын
Matthew Hurtado love that garage man very very nice will love to do a collaboration video or something like that one day!! 😎👍🏼
@MatthewHurtado
@MatthewHurtado 4 жыл бұрын
Ralda’s Details mention him to your subscribers he deserves it
@RaldasDetails
@RaldasDetails 4 жыл бұрын
Matthew Hurtado sure I will bro!! 😎👍🏼
@domenicobizzarro839
@domenicobizzarro839 Жыл бұрын
Best chemical ever ❤
@sunilraj7692
@sunilraj7692 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video. I use the black soft foam sponge from the rag company. My issue with microfibres is they hold onto dirt which is a moot point as you never put the dirty rag back into the onr! The black foam has lots of cuts in it which releases the dirt as soon as you dunk it in the bucket. But the main reason l prefer the sponge is less washing of towels! Keep it up and nice pressure washer setup!
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment and watching.
@rolandorivera427
@rolandorivera427 6 ай бұрын
I’m trying to that Product Soon!
@stevenmadamba8250
@stevenmadamba8250 2 жыл бұрын
Great videos! Love the products you use!
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@Bushcraft242
@Bushcraft242 Жыл бұрын
The only product I use
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing Жыл бұрын
It’s a good one. A classic.
@zacharylee6405
@zacharylee6405 Жыл бұрын
I hope there is some cheaper Chinese branded polymer rinseless washes to buy soon
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing Жыл бұрын
This is pretty economical
@markcolon7459
@markcolon7459 24 күн бұрын
Can you use more onr as a drying aid instead of beadmaker?
@donjohnson3390
@donjohnson3390 2 жыл бұрын
Great produce guys
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@play150
@play150 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video!
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@daviddolezal1921
@daviddolezal1921 4 жыл бұрын
What are the name or where did you get the Stainless Steel shelves that you are storing product in? The ones in the background above the workbench.
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing 4 жыл бұрын
David Dolezal Pitt posse is the name of the manufacturer.
@jordyworley91
@jordyworley91 2 жыл бұрын
I use ONR in my sprayer the entire car. Than use different wash mitt on each side. Than dry with towel. Wash car in about 15 minutes.
@MatthewHurtado
@MatthewHurtado 4 жыл бұрын
@flippsen must be sleeping in today.
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing 4 жыл бұрын
Where is he today
@rhsab1
@rhsab1 3 жыл бұрын
And the new ONR “improved formula “ is now available with more lubricity!
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks will have to check it out.
@Jeeper1378
@Jeeper1378 3 жыл бұрын
N-914 is still king
@marknewman2756
@marknewman2756 2 жыл бұрын
Superman to the rescue 😀 just to ask you rinsing off with a regular garden hose how would that fair would it be enough pressure cheers mark
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing 2 жыл бұрын
With the right nozzle it would work. The rinse step is not required for sure. I would do it if there is dirt or contamination visible on the paint that could be shot off with water. Thanks for watching
@JakeyDill
@JakeyDill 3 жыл бұрын
My objection to multiple towel washing and using less water is now you have more washing that uses more water.
@fraserlangley-waldron3198
@fraserlangley-waldron3198 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly I use number 2 most of the year and number 3 in summer with the hose hooked up. And usually 3 wash mitts with older mf towels for the wheels and very low portion of the car. Our cars take a beating in Canada during winter, normally it’s best to do a clay bar, polish and wax of it’s a daily 😂
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing. Canada is tough on paint for sure. I have been there a few times. Blackcomb is a great mountain.
@AntLive29
@AntLive29 2 жыл бұрын
I like method 3
@kristofferpence
@kristofferpence 3 жыл бұрын
Why do you look like you could be Matt’s brother? 😂. Great video
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know about that but I would like to think I am a lot better looking LOL. Thanks for watching.
@zmarcus408
@zmarcus408 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, I was curious about doing a rinse less wheel/tire cleaning if it was possible? It’s something I’ve been curious about. Could I hit my wheels and tires with some Adams then come in and ONR and finish off with some bead maker? I really appreciate any help and all your videos!
@Americanboy5150
@Americanboy5150 Жыл бұрын
Presoak method
@minntsv2620
@minntsv2620 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome dude
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@Britman78
@Britman78 3 жыл бұрын
You don't use distilled water with ONR? For colder climates it really helps when I do my ONR washes in the winter.
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing 3 жыл бұрын
Yes I have. The company says it not necessary but it surely can’t hurt. I have not had any water spots or problems from using regular water. I generally use my pressure washer to rinse the panels when the car is super dirty. Thanks for commenting.
@Britman78
@Britman78 3 жыл бұрын
@@HawaiiDetailing I will have to try it with regular water then. Thanks.
@peterscanlon9727
@peterscanlon9727 2 жыл бұрын
This is over a year later, but I was wondering if you still recommend the ONR or the McKees? Thank you
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing 2 жыл бұрын
They are both good. I plan to do a review of mkees soon. Thanks for watching
@ratking948
@ratking948 Ай бұрын
Do you use ONR as a clay lube? Whats your favorite clay lube?
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing 27 күн бұрын
Most good rinseless wash products are great clay lubes. Check this out. www.hawaiidetailing.com/dillution
@andysuh7479
@andysuh7479 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Do you have to use distilled water with this product? I've seen other videos where they recommend using distilled water. I live in an apartment and I don't have access to a hose. I was just wondering if I can just use regular tap water. Thxs!
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing 3 жыл бұрын
You can use regular tap water. I do it all the time. It’s perfect for your situation.thanks for watching.
@DustyMulhearn
@DustyMulhearn 4 жыл бұрын
I would use the low water method, since I don't have access to water near my Tesla
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing 4 жыл бұрын
DustyTheRealtor yeah than that method would work really well for you.
@dustinsautodetailing
@dustinsautodetailing 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! How would you clean the wheels and tires?
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing 3 жыл бұрын
The same way just use separate micro fibers for the wheels. Thanks for watching
@Zynirel
@Zynirel 10 ай бұрын
Is this car contaminated?
@michaelhealthandfitnesstra4540
@michaelhealthandfitnesstra4540 2 жыл бұрын
I saw you used Mckees 37 N-914 no rinse when using as a clay bar lubricant for the windshield. As an overall rinse less wash would you prefer there ONR or the Mckees? Thanks
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing 2 жыл бұрын
They both work well in my opinion. You can’t go wrong with either. Thanks for watching
@flowinthrou
@flowinthrou Жыл бұрын
Do you think ONR +apc in the backet will work together or onr against apc?
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing Жыл бұрын
I would not use apc the same as ONR. ONR encapsulates the dirt so there is no scratching. If it needs APC then do a traditional bucket wash. Thanks for watching
@flowinthrou
@flowinthrou Жыл бұрын
@@HawaiiDetailing I think since you have to wash, you usually pre-wash, too. So as that stage, why not pre-spray with apc, like the method 3 (if you have some water available). And to save time, I wonder if you can mix onr with apc in the backet and pre-soak with the sprayer.
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing Жыл бұрын
@@flowinthrou yeah anything is possible but I am just not sure how those chemicals will react with each other. I always want a really good rinse after using APC on the paint as it’s a alkaline cleaner.
@user-zr3tb6bg7o
@user-zr3tb6bg7o 3 жыл бұрын
Liked and subbed... nice vid!
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing 3 жыл бұрын
Jack thanks. Appreciate it.
@user-zr3tb6bg7o
@user-zr3tb6bg7o 3 жыл бұрын
@@HawaiiDetailing btw, I bought SpotClean pro based on your review, and absolutely LOVE it, so thank YOU for that.
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing 3 жыл бұрын
Jack your welcome. Great to hear.
@nordertorodriguez7784
@nordertorodriguez7784 2 жыл бұрын
So I can use all in onr pre-rings then power wash
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing 2 жыл бұрын
You can do any of those three methods. I recommended using this type of product when the car is not super dirty. If it really dirty do a traditional bucket wash. Thanks for watching
@antoniolazzaro7052
@antoniolazzaro7052 Жыл бұрын
Does the number of GSM of the micro fiber towel matter? I have a 10 pack of 350 GSM micro fiber towels and wondering if that's enough. Also, how many towels (avg) do you use per car?
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing Жыл бұрын
I use 5-7. Depends how dirty the car is. 350 should work good. Get the 2 sided version so you get 8 wipes per towel.
@antoniolazzaro7052
@antoniolazzaro7052 Жыл бұрын
@@HawaiiDetailing awesome! Thanks
@ROMEKBNY
@ROMEKBNY 2 жыл бұрын
Can/should you use onr under the hood?
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing 2 жыл бұрын
You can use it anywhere. For greasy areas you will need something stronger like a diluted all purpose cleaner.
@truejey7475
@truejey7475 4 жыл бұрын
Hi there. New subscriber and also new to the channel. I hope i win this since my landlord is strict about water 😆
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for checking out my channel. It’s a good product.
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing 4 жыл бұрын
You are in a small race so chances are good. 😆
@sonofdragon81
@sonofdragon81 3 жыл бұрын
Super cool video! Thanks for sharing. What about a non-coated car? I'm a, "weekend cleaner". Any suggestions with regard to how to proceed with ONR in my case?
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing 3 жыл бұрын
I would use the pre soak method and follow up with beadmaker when drying. Just like the video. Will turn out great.
@sonofdragon81
@sonofdragon81 3 жыл бұрын
@@HawaiiDetailing Thanks. Will do.
@coortedellalegioneromana2443
@coortedellalegioneromana2443 2 жыл бұрын
nooo, 60 anni con la maglietta di superman
@aag6499
@aag6499 Жыл бұрын
Lol NO RINSE procedes to RINSE. LOL
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing Жыл бұрын
Hahaha. I like to use products the way they work best. Sometimes it’s off label.
@aag6499
@aag6499 Жыл бұрын
@@HawaiiDetailing lol
@MatthewHurtado
@MatthewHurtado 4 жыл бұрын
First
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing 4 жыл бұрын
Yes you did
@Celiafa2000
@Celiafa2000 4 жыл бұрын
Second. Nice video. Subscribed and liked. I hope I win.
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing 4 жыл бұрын
Celiafa thanks a lot. You are in the race now.
@ericacosta1163
@ericacosta1163 3 жыл бұрын
love the vids hope i win!!
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing 3 жыл бұрын
Eric Acosta thanks a lot. I look forward to detailing with you when this pandemic is over.
@posjoey
@posjoey 3 жыл бұрын
Did I miss the giveaway 11 months later?? Lol
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry. Yeah thats long over. Doing another one on the latest security cam video. Enter that one.
@alexibarra9220
@alexibarra9220 4 жыл бұрын
Pick me!
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing 4 жыл бұрын
Not many people in yet so your chances are really good. Thanks for watching.
@toml.8210
@toml.8210 Жыл бұрын
If the vehicle is so dirty that you can only use a section of the towel , then you need to wash it properly. Otherwise, you can just use the one towel to wash the vehicle, until it does get too dirty to continue. I'll pass on the free bottle of Optimum No Rinse, as I already discovered its formula (I work at ta soap company.)
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