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[@angrybidoof847]

Genuinely thought I was having a stroke when this came on.

[@The_Hoester]

I laughed at this comment 😂

[@rhiannonsmith5727]

Ikr like I was so confused 😂😭😭😭

[@rhiannonsmith5727]

I’m sat in college I just laughed out loud to this comment I look mad

[@miket1671]

Thought a youtube advert was playing on another tab watching this...

[@hydraz1443]

Exactly lol. Royal marine adverts are so badass and realistic whereas raf and army ads are about lgbt bullshit and women’s rights or whatever

[@sebbers]

Honestly thought an advert was running though the video lol

[@RossTurner94]

"WoMeN sHoUlD bE dEfInEd By AcTiOnS nOt CliChÈs." - Nobody said women couldn't join the RAF. Jesus, I'm so sick of these Adverts & there deluded & outdated messages that women are still oppressed and hard done by. 🙄🤦🏻‍♂️

[@royalairforce]

Hi It wasn't until a few years ago that all roles in the RAF were open to women. This highlights that all roles are. So not outdated! ;-) RAF Recruitment

[@RossTurner94]

@@royalairforce It so is outdated when its the same old drivel about oppression. We know women can do these jobs, yet these adverts still speak as if we're in the 50's or something.

[@stewartbell5629]

I’m a card carrying misogynist, and even I think your grabbing at straws here Ross.

[@RossTurner94]

I think you're the one clutching at straws here, Stewart. Maybe try and look at the advert mpre closely...

[@stewartbell5629]

@@RossTurner94 that doesn’t make any sense. I just won a tenner for getting a reply

[@Prisonerthirt33n]

I bet the RAF won't even give a definition for "Woman".

[@trucker84]

Just ask Kier Starmer

[@NobleWizard]

I thought there was an ad playing in the background, I was wrong. Seems they missed out on a really good advert.

[@Simes158]

Listen carefully to the wording of each advert at each section of the visual clips e.g. talking about "pads with wings, and now I can do anything" played when showing the Typhoon pilot flying low level...

[@NobleWizard]

@@Simes158 I showed this to sister and she liked it. Seems it's a pretty good advert

[@teedee9393]

Look, I'm all for women in the RAF. Half the country is female, that's a large demographic but ads like these are patronising shite.

[@mistervanoot]

Really rather offensive. “Join the RAF - we don’t break employment law”. Compelling

[@Lynx20232]

Don’t understand why they’re now only targeting women only with these adverts, it’s quite strange.

[@the5gen]

Fine lines and wrinkles.

[@royalairforce]

Hi The advert was produced after winning a competition specifically about diversity, in this case female representation. Not just in the forces, but how they're represented against other advertising. There's nothing strange, but it does highlight a possibly still common myth that not all roles are available to both men and women in the RAF. Kind regards RAF Recruitment

[@Lynx20232]

@@royalairforce Didn't mean it in a bad way at all, It just seemed to exclude the fact that as a member of the youth, and who has ambitions to join the royal air force, It just didn't appeal to myself as much as I would have hoped. But never the less, I Understand your argument and its plausible and well founded. And I hope the following recruitment adverts show both sides of the spectrum instead of focusing on one. Have a nice afternoon.

[@alanmarshall4236]

this video is bloody brilliant, very clever and good concept, as an ex film school student and follower of this channel i take off my hat to whoever developed this film.

[@Cartoonman154]

By using other adverts audio?

[@Luna-xr3dk]

By “clever” do you mean no men involved when it’s supposed to be for both genders

[@50puft]

​@Luna-xr3dk Men already get tons of representation and make up the vast majority of the RAF, the point of the advert is to show that women are just as capable as men and to subvert gender stereotypes to convince more women to join.

[@andylaauk]

Every role in the RAF is open to everyone (except white men). 🤣🤣

[@saph004]

Haha this is actually funny 😂😂

[@Cartoonman154]

Women have a lower fitness requirement. EQUALITY. Also, did the RAF use bits of other adverts for the audio over?

[@tohdestroyerpro7704]

It also means special units like RAF regiment have to lower there standards to make women have a chance to join and actually stay therefore making the unit weaker.

[@BoarVessel-BCEtruscanCer-xy7et]

Electro_Knight _ I hope you are not using the term “special” as in “special forces” to attach to the RAF Reg...

[@sorted0blud]

Those Typhoons better not be going into the loop

[@leedsgeek2681]

Didnt expect the raf to fall into political correctness. The old ads did the job just fine.

[@BoarVessel-BCEtruscanCer-xy7et]

Zachary Kennedy well evidently they didn’t work fine, as there aren’t very many females in the RAF by comparison to males

[@tomjones5453]

@@BoarVessel-BCEtruscanCer-xy7et And you think that's because of advertising!? What a mong

[@BoarVessel-BCEtruscanCer-xy7et]

Tom Jones no u

[@BoarVessel-BCEtruscanCer-xy7et]

Tom G no u

[@BoarVessel-BCEtruscanCer-xy7et]

Tom G I know you are but what am I?

[@HRRN-gh3wj]

Normally I hate the agenda behind these ads but in this case it made me laugh so I'll give it to them this time

[@yorkshirerose3]

I applied to join the RAF as an officer and during the recruitment process at Cranwell, I got the distinct feeling that they had a quota to fill. All of the women passed through without a hiccup, even though a couple of them seemed incompetent, whilst a good handful of chaps (myself included) were sent home. Seems to me like the forces are bending over backwards to recruit people based on their skin colour and/ or genitalia, rather than their actual desire to serve and their competence. So we won’t be able to hold our own in full scale war, but never mind, look how diverse we are. 🙄

[@ellaminns]

Just a thought, but maybe they were actually better than you?

[@yorkshirerose3]

ellaminns perhaps they were better than me. I particularly enjoyed the leadership exercise in which we take it in turns to get your team from one side of an obstacle course to the other. I felt I performed quite well during this exercise, having actually directed my team well, listening to suggestions and acting with haste. I was the only candidate to get someone to the finishing line of a purposefully difficult exercise. One female in my syndicate was visibly stressed during her turn as leader and almost cried at one point (I shit you not). Another gentleman who happened to be black, could barely speak with clarity, had no organizational or people skills and ended up in a huff during his turn as leader. This gentleman also let on that during the individual planning exercise (using speed/distance/time calculations to solve a problem in a mission like scenario) he didn’t actually realise what the numbers on the paper meant! Guess who passed through and who didn’t? Go on have a guess.

[@seronymus]

If they're that culturally suicidal I'm sorry but maybe our civilization deserves to be defeated anyway

[@llewellynjameskinnaird2741]

Clive Warren There's a certain level that of competence women can attain in managerial skill but leadership is not their department. I've noticed that when they are put in a position to lead .....most just can't . It's just that simple, no gender bias here just straight facts . And I'm tired of hearing about exceptional females (anomalies) who have such a records etc when In everyday life I see the exact opposite. What if we men took only our exceptional men as the standard ? Just because one woman did great doesn't mean all women are on the same level.

[@aakashgarain]

@@llewellynjameskinnaird2741 the logic is that one exceptional women should join the military and other women should go off,simple, doesn't she deserve to join?and if we do have exceptional women like these,then there should be women recruitment,ffs understand this simple thing

[@ThatGuysProject]

RAF seem to only be interested in fulfilling certain quotas at the moment, I went to an afco and was basically told that grades are the only thing that matter, even if you have practical experience and a willingness to commit for the 12 year contract some roles have, it is still less then having a levels. I'm not saying that there shouldn't be requirements as each role is different from the next however I also feel that individual circumstances should also be taken into account. For example, I grew up in an unstable house hold, Ill parent, hated school, ice skated from 7 till 12 and obtained gold, got my scuba diving open water certificate at 10 and started flying light aircraft at 13 when I first took, the controls of a tiger moth at IWM Duxford. I went back to school in year 10 but got given the stupid treatment meaning I was stuck in classes that guaranteed I would not get the grades I needed. So I left again then found an alternate school in year 11 that focused on actually helping people, did 8 months on half days got 7 gcses and actually liked school for once. In that time I was also getting a PPL, Got that a year later. I now have a love for flying that is awesome. It's like being free and flying such old aircraft makes me feel like I'm keeping history alive. Anyway, I was told that there was a waiting time for flight training and that competition was fierce, something I already knew. I was flat out told that it didn't matter that I had a pilots license. This is something I find slightly annoying, it shows a proven ability to be taught multiple subjects and succeed, it shows an ability to fly, navigate, communicate and solve problems but no, a levels are more important. I feel the reason the armed services are lacking people is because of quotas, being PC and not giving individuals with alternative but relevant skills the opportunity to demonstrate their worth.

[@royalairforce]

Hi The entry requirements are in place for each role as a level for various reasons, but the main one is to make sure you have the learning capacity for phase one and phase two training. From your comment I'm guessing you're interested in applying to be a pilot? As has already been advised to you, you don't need a PPL to be a pilot in the RAF, we train everyone from scratch as military flying has different areas that civilian doesn't, of course. Have you thought about applying for a different role in the RAF, doing your A levels (or an equivalent) while in service and then applying for your commission at that point? It's an option. Kind regards RAF Recruitment

[@prefectkyro5462]

100% Agree about the quotas, and also either forced to be more PC or what ever the case may be. Its showing

[@ThatGuysProject]

@@prefectkyro5462 I'm all for having people that are not generally included in such jobs in the Forces however this just feels forced to an extent, for this advert as an example i feel that it would get a lot more positive press if they showed everyone doing a job and not just one group. such as the old advert with the 19 y/o who works with the Red Arrows. it shows everyone doing a job, sure she is the main subject however they show her in a way that doesn't make it seem like there is some issue with equality.

[@ThatGuysProject]

@@royalairforce I have not as i was not made aware that it was an option however even if it is I would be hesitant, flying is what i know and love, it's what i am best at doing and excel at, if i'm on the ground i'm wishing i was flying and if i'm flying i forget about everything else and only focus on it, therefore i shall be doing my commercial license in America soon. Thanks for the reply and have a good day.

[@TheLoachman]

@@ThatGuysProject I was, until recently, a Helicopter Pilot in the Canadian Armed Forces. I also held commercial helicopter and seized-wing licences. A private licence is irrelevant to military flying, and is no indicator of success. I have seen those with commercial licences fail, often because they have learned incompatible habits that they cannot break. Military flying courses are intensive. Not everybody can learn at the rate required. Not everybody is motivated enough. Not everybody is willing to make the effort. Education is seen as an indicator of learning ability. It is not the only one, however, which is why there is a fairly demanding evaluation and selection process for flying training. We were told, when I began my military flying training, that only one in eight hundred Pilot applicants earned his (now his or her) Wings. Seeing how many applicants were culled out in the recruiting process, Aircrew Selection (only two of us in my contingent passed, and the other fellow only made it one stage further), Basic Officer Training, and three phases of Flying Training (Beechcraft CT134 Musketeer, Canadair CT114 Tutor, and Bell CH139 Jet Ranger in my case), I never had any reason to doubt the validity of that claim. Only half of my Musketeer course graduated, most of my Jet course did, but all of us on my Basic Helicopter course did. Nothing taught on my Musketeer course was of any direct value on the Jet course, and none of my modest previous civilian flying time was of any real value on the Musketeer course, either. It's far, far more difficult than you think, and there is no adequate way of describing the challenge. It is worth the effort, though, if that is your ultimate goal. And, if you do want those Wings, and want them enough, then skip the commercial flying training and upgrade your education instead, and do everything else required to not meet, but EXCEED, the entry standards. Make yourself competitive.

[@rafeun7569]

“Every role in the RAF is open to everyone”. Yeah that’s not true. I’m a 21 year old male who trains 400-800m but I’m not fit enough to join as I had asthma when I was 15 :))

[@royalairforce]

Hi That's a medical issue, not a fitness issue, unfortunately. And that would only impact Aircrew roles, other ground roles may be available to you. RAF Recruitment

[@tmattoneill]

it's open to you... you just won't make the cut. just like you're free to apply to any job you want. it's open to you. but if you don't qualify you won't get it.

[@hayesy5619]

The first of two least diverse adverts you've put out

[@JacobKinsley]

Lol @ all the 15 year old boys in the comments getting mad because playing 8 hours of fortnite every day doesn't qualify them to join the RAF and because of that it's the women's fault

[@gtrrohit5078]

I don't get why they are so against women! btw I like fortnite. fun game.

[@lewiscopland4568]

"Even though I sit on my Xbox all day and eat nothing but pasta, I definitely have the muscle mass and dedication to beat up a woman who can do 200 pull-ups and can carry a 75lb rucksack through a desert."

[@ruby-im8zf]

finally a good comment

[@RossTurner94]

@@ruby-im8zf u would say that tho 🙄🤦🏻‍♂️

[@ThatMaximesTune]

But don’t forget, the military is also open to straight white men...

[@BoarVessel-BCEtruscanCer-xy7et]

ThatMaximesTune which make up the majority of its force and recruitment as it is, so they hardly need to appeal to them...

[@boxfullofneutral8514]

@@BoarVessel-BCEtruscanCer-xy7et actually recruitment is down across the board, so maybe they do need to appeal to them.

[@battenburg6089]

Imagine being such a fragile man and getting angry at an advertisement encouraging women to fight and defend and work for their country lmao.

[@matt0chew]

@@boxfullofneutral8514 Not in the RAF after RAF100. The recruiters have never had it so easy

[@bluemouth8066]

@@BoarVessel-BCEtruscanCer-xy7et Maybe they make up the majority of the force for a reason. Maybe the military doesn't need to be an exact demographic reflection of the nation.

[@morgantaaffe8494]

‘Front line’

[@campbellcorpse1]

RAF Regiment is often on the front line.

[@Cartoonman154]

@@campbellcorpse1 Women also have lower fitness requirements.

[@tohdestroyerpro7704]

special units like RAF regiment have to lower there standards to make women have a chance to join and actually stay therefore making the unit weaker.

[@matt0chew]

@@campbellcorpse1 Don't tell them that though

[@morgantaaffe8494]

Campbell Parker wow! I didn’t actually know that! Thank you so much for sharing your great plethora of knowledge with me! So grateful! X

[@Luna-xr3dk]

Can't join cos I'm a white male

[@HonkyHorton]

What no munters?

[@benjamieson2165]

In the event of another world war would women be drafted as well????

[@BoarVessel-BCEtruscanCer-xy7et]

Women were drafted into service in the last war you melon. Not in frontline service obviously, but in many military support organisations

[@benjamieson2165]

@@BoarVessel-BCEtruscanCer-xy7et well women were never allowed in front line service, but now they are so would they be drafted into the front line?

[@BoarVessel-BCEtruscanCer-xy7et]

@@benjamieson2165 I don't see any reason why the wouldn't be now

[@JQ3B94]

This is the best advert I've ever seen

[@IamTomas987]

Ikr

[@Luna-xr3dk]

You need help

[@unicornsprinkles3277]

0:28 I get the others but how is women wearing a pad a cliche?

[@frazlesc6937]

Because of the Pressure myth when were on our monthly when we fly. Same with NASA.

[@unicornsprinkles3277]

@@frazlesc6937 sorry whats the myth?

[@sophiemartin5757]

Maybe it’s only in there for the pun of ‘wings’ of a pad and those of a plane :)

[@bluemouth8066]

Trans women don't wear pads, bigot.

[@danhillman4523]

Women with swords looks like danger to me.

[@matthewirvine1361]

Im really confused..

[@ncal08]

That was badass!

[@sirius9108]

Damn this is a good ad... people are overthinking the feminism part of it. Stop being gay and thinking about men and admit the writing in this ad is fresh asf.

[@prefectkyro5462]

Who cares if the ad is good do you not see the issues that it will cause ?

[@CODMODDERZ360]

2018 - the year the British Armed Forces died. Quite sad actually.

[@coreywilliams1454]

My God, what did I just witness? What is with the military and these PC ads recently? Show bombs being dropped, going to the pub with the lads, not this shit.

[@BoarVessel-BCEtruscanCer-xy7et]

Corey Williams oh yes because pointing out that you could get blown to bits makes everyone want to sign up, as opposed to showcasing opportunities...

[@coreywilliams1454]

@@BoarVessel-BCEtruscanCer-xy7et Dropping bombs isn't getting blown to bits, it's blowing the enemy to bits.

[@life..onetherode.with..quinnn]

Other than the wings thing, I’ve heard one woman or another in my life, be it family or friend utter some variation of all the other comments. Is it still a cliché even if it is commonly expressed by women? Also having been in the navy almost all the women i met in the forces were (to use a better phrase) mad shaggers. Why are they not represented in this clip?

[@bluemouth8066]

Dislikes hidden. Such bravery from the RAF.

[@carlmaster9690]

It's the same for the Army and Navy's videos too

[@VorpalSlade]

KZbin hides dislikes not channels lmao

[@HistoryForYouOfficial]

@@VorpalSlade Now they do, only a few months ago when they fully changed it. When this original comment was posted, it was optional to show dislikes. lmao to you ;)

[@MyLifeIsAFrickingMess_MRPOLSKA]

This comment section would make adolf hitler blush lmao

[@theradinion6317]

Loved the use of action footage and flying

[@RemusWolves]

STOP RAMMING FEMINISM DOWN PEOPLES THROATS

[@marcustrevor1883]

It's literally encouraging women to join up because for years it has been thought of as a mens job. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that.

[@FlavourlessLife]

@@marcustrevor1883 War is a man's job.

[@aakashgarain]

@@FlavourlessLifejust a advice, Don't scream those words in front of a woman in military,either she will be smart and tolerant and ignore you,or she will be badass and intolerant and go on to absolutely ram you,would affect your "male" ego a lot, might end up crying

[@Luna-xr3dk]

@@aakashgarain smart but not strong she’ll ignore you cos she’d know that she can’t kick your ass since I don’t know your a man

[@Shad0wFaxx]

@@FlavourlessLife Eomer from Lord of the Rings "War is the province of men" He's totally correct.

[@pmd4979]

random but song at 0.15?

[@topskek9786]

Diversity means division. How is that a good thing.

[@user-uh7po7cz3x]

Because it keeps the people divided and unable to overthrow the government or change how you are ruled.

[@gypsytheif]

Our would be enemies must be trembling...

[@lewiscopland4568]

Brilliant idea for an ad, and perfectly executed.

[@hectorpowell8813]

Some of these sexist comments make me so sad for the future of the UK

[@sirhumphreyappleby8399]

Acknowledging that men are better suited to most military roles isn’t sexist - it’s common sense. The defence of the realm is too important to be made the standard-bearer for equality and diversity.

[@hectorpowell8813]

@@sirhumphreyappleby8399 I agree. I just believe that gender should not be a factor. If there is a role it should go to who is best at that role. Not what gender on average is best at that role.

[@evertonporter7887]

Damn! We've gone back to the sexism and locker room banter of the early 1970s, this time it's on social media.

[@RossTurner94]

Simp.

[@joepapworth5241]

Mute the vid and play some hard rock/ drum and bass / patriotic music / or anything else besides wtf they are saying. Then you got a real RAF advert

[@Whiskey2shots]

or understand just how good the advert actually is? lol

[@Rojoyerf]

@@Whiskey2shots It's good at appealing to Women. I'll say no more

[@Whiskey2shots]

@@Rojoyerf I mean, I imagine that's the point, especially considering what the average person likely knows about the armed forces is that women aren't frontline (which thankfully they are), this advert perfectly illustrates that they are. And it's probably gonna stick in peoples mind's cus it's different and slightly cheesy

[@AlL-fc5uv]

Hahaha funny :) That's all that matters. They should Say "The Military, It's not for Girls" Do a Yorkie on it. Then see how many women want to join up haha :)

[@gamer_kid_naz4942]

It's called reverse psychology baby! For real I like that approach

[@AlL-fc5uv]

@@j.4354 Yorkies are good.... Don't blame him haha :)

[@blakesblake5663]

On a serious note. Who actually gives a fuck if women are in the armed forces?!

[@yagamienjoyer4408]

@David Stevenson really? Are you telling me Lyudmila Pavlichenko who killed 300 German soliders during the second World War is useless?

[@gracecockayne6693]

@@yagamienjoyer4408 thank you 👏👏👏

[@yagamienjoyer4408]

@@gracecockayne6693 Your welcome *Tips hat*

[@stevevater8598]

@@yagamienjoyer4408 she was the exception to the rule , do gooder always use this trick

[@yagamienjoyer4408]

@@stevevater8598 wdym by that?

[@stonedfish99]

The problem with women on the front line is that men are naturally inclined to help the woman first. If a women and a man is shot who do you go to first? The women. End of story

[@becauseiwasinverted5222]

We are also naturally inclined to look after anyone we have an attachment to. By a similar line of thinking, a soldier might prefer to prioritize his wounded friends or even relatives over his other comrades even if the latter are more seriously hurt. Yet this has never been considered an issue. I'm not a fan of women in front line combat, but this reason is rather low on my list.

[@stonedfish99]

@@becauseiwasinverted5222 Maybe so and a fair point. Another point I have is all the blokes know they've all gone through the exact same training and know they all passed for the same reasons under the same criteria. However, from what I've heard and read, women are given lighter kit and lower PT values... physically, men are stronger than women (Unless you're a complete fool and disagree) but equal to me means The Exact Same and I stand by the fact women in the forces should be given the exact same kit and PT values. If they can pass that good, if not then its anything but equal. My uncle who served stated the most annoying thing he heard on the battle field was a womens voice screaming over the radio.

[@matt0chew]

I would refer you to Able Seaman Kate Nesbitt, a female Royal Navy medic who scrambled 70 yards across open ground in Afghanistan to save a comrade who had been shot in the neck while under heavy enemy fire. I would also refer you to the RAF Medical Emergency Response Teams, many of whom were female, who flew in Chinook helicopters to live firefights to rescue soldiers who had been blown up or shot, presenting themselves as targets for Taliban rockets and bullets, saving countless lives.

[@stonedfish99]

@Eason Cheng what that men are stronger than women? Sure, let's do an experiment of 10 men and 10 women all carrying 60kg burgans across rough terrain and see who ends at the finish line (this is one of the SAS selection tests called The Happy wonderer) it's not a bullshit argument that men are physically stronger it's a well known fact.

[@stonedfish99]

@@matt0chew medical yes. I agree women are great in that area of combat (seen in the many roles of WW1 and WW2) but on the front line with guns clearing IEDs and other explosives is an area I do not believe a woman should be. Just my 2 cents

[@Clarkkent163]

Fucking hell, the amount of swearing on here, it's fucking funny and what makes it even more funny is that there's this new policy and it states "remember to keep comments respectful and to follow our community guidelines" but yet no one seems to care xD 😂😂😂😂

[@ylf_nac_i]

Shouldn’t you have your visor down when lowering canopy as it might fucking explode?

[@JammyDodger45]

Hmm no. And why would a canopy explode?

[@ylf_nac_i]

@@JammyDodger45 The charge from the ejection seat has like a 1/1000,000 chance of going off and shattering the canopy. See Tom Scott's park bench video on flying with the Red Arrows

[@JammyDodger45]

@@ylf_nac_i you seem to be confusing the ejector seat with the canopy. When your said 'the canopy might fucking explode' I presume you were trying to refer to the canopy release explosive bolts going off. Now you're talking about the seat? whichever you actually mean there is no record of either event happening in a RAF Typhoon (I can't be certain of other nations aircraft).

[@ylf_nac_i]

@@JammyDodger45 The BAE Hawk causes the canopy to "fucking expload" when ejecting. This is so the pilot can get through the big glass thing above their head. I reailse it's a difference aircraft but a year ago I thought it would have been a similar ejection method. I now realise that the canopy lifts off in the typhoon whilst in the Hawk it does come apart

[@JammyDodger45]

@@ylf_nac_i - no shit, did you think the metal strips in the hawk canopy were demisters? Either way, they're not part of the ejector seat.

[@jjkirbyy]

Absolutely amazing! Cant wait to join next year.

[@seaharrierfrs1]

n i c e

[@jjkirbyy]

@@seaharrierfrs1 ✔️

[@rigel9435]

same :^))

[@royalairforce]

Good luck!

[@jjkirbyy]

@@royalairforce thank you

[@Stinger913]

Whether you’re someone who’s about to comment a statistic about men being stronger than woman and quote something about gender roles or about to comment something about women having the same opportunities - am I the only one who feels like they’re ironically ostracizing women by the voiceovers? All the lines are stereotypically voices as if it were a beauty product - this is the definition of a cliché and in my opinion is almost as bad as the Gillette shaving commercial but for women. We know anyone in the armed forces just wants to fit in by doing their job and protecting their country regardless of their gender. They could’ve just taken the tag line at the end and keep most of the video silent showing women doing the same jobs as men. Judge by actions. The end.

[@yourmajesty8913]

stinger913 Can’t tell if you’re joking or not

[@Stinger913]

@@@yourmajesty8913 Yes, I seriously feel like the Royal Air Force ostracized women in this commercial while patronizing them. It honestly does not matter whether you feel women are only fit for non-combat roles or are fit for them. This commercial was silly.

[@TheLoachman]

You have it partially right, but completely fail to understand the point. The voices do indeed play to the stereotypes in advertisements aimed at women, but the images negate those stereotypes and show women's capabilities.

[@terrance8817]

Women in the forces do not fit the bill. There is currently a mass exodus from fighting units before the ship has completely sunk. This is the nail in the British military coffin. It’s over and done

[@Nialll138]

I’m looking to apply to the raf as aircrew but I’m going to uni next year, would it be possible to do both at the same time or better to wait until after I’ve done my degree?

[@tohdestroyerpro7704]

It depends as application take about 1 year to process (including interview) but then you have to do training it often depends on how long your uni will take

[@royalairforce]

Hey NL 138 It is possible to apply whilst at university, but everyone is different. You have the opportunity at some universities to join a University Air Squadron (UAS), which is a really great insight in the RAF and can be a bridge until you decide to apply - www.raf.mod.uk/our-organisation/university-air-squadrons/ You can also visit your local Armed Forces Careers Office or our recruitment website and have a chat with our recruitment teams. They will give you all the necessary info on the application process and hopefully help you decide wether you want to wait or start your application.

[@tohdestroyerpro7704]

RAF, you should properly advertise to everyone :) and use unisex not just women

[@alexriddock177]

@@tohdestroyerpro7704 I get that it's a big deal allowing women into all roles now but at the same time, I agree it shouldn't be promoted with gender specific media.

[@tanderson596]

Hey @NL 138, I'm a former student of a University Air Squadron and would highly recommend joining if you are going to attend university. Please send me a message if you would like to ask questions!

[@crazychimp1324]

Redbull gives you wings

[@iambetterthanyou7574]

I really want to join the RAF

[@originalturtle3911]

Be out here defying Roblox stereotypes

[@frazlesc6937]

Are you in Air Cadets? Like the RAF but for kids

[@rileyallison6256]

Roblox red arrows cool username 😂

[@kyleJohn1997]

@@frazlesc6937 shots fired

[@frazlesc6937]

@iuvenis animo were nothing like scouts.

[@vinnyvasquez]

I'm sure there's a percentage of women who want to be in the forces and good luck to them, but men are unfortunately more suited to, to be blunt, killing. Being in the forces is not a game with an HR department checking everyone is represented, its life or death and you need the best at-hand. While this celebrates open opportunity, women and men are not the same and we should celebrate that too, and not be ashamed by it.

[@tomharding]

Mate, I feel sorry for you.

[@vinnyvasquez]

@@tomharding Don't be, expand your mind and think for yourself instead

[@jozefmcevans1013]

Not every thing in the army is about killing, go back to school

[@TheLoachman]

If you think that women are incapable of killing, then you have not met some of my colleagues. Many men are not particularly suited to that, either. We have one standard, which applies equally to men and women. Discrimination is based solely on individual ability rather than group identity or stereotype. Yes, there are differences between men and women, and fewer women are interested in military careers than men are, and many of them are challenged by the strength and stamina requirements of some military occupations, but do not underestimate the capabilities of those who meet, and often exceed, the standards. Female Russian snipers earned a fearsome reputation in the Great Patriotic War.

[@leeboocock8013]

I feel sorry for the women who's struggling and expecting me to take the strain. Can't hack it then don't join.

[@bigbelly5098]

Lol. Women and blacks. Take that Putin.

[@justinwalker1643]

Whites,Blacks,women, it doesn't matter. UK military is a joke. You stood no chance against Putin anyway. What planet are you on? UK is just a glorified vassal state.

[@thirteeneel]

surely someone from hp does the assignment for me

[@TheMicroPilot]

Love it!

[@SuperPiggy8]

love this!

[@horseface1038]

Me too but i want to join the army!!

[@royalairforce]

We wish you the very best, but if you change your mind ----> www.raf.mod.uk/recruitment/

[@catalinacalero740]

Whats up with all the Gender politic s let women do what they want

[@stevevater8598]

Nothing wrong with people "doing what they want", but that is not the issue. When the issue is life or death we need the best. SIMPLES .

[@willowwookie9614]

If we go to war and fight a nation with equal technology and they have men only front line troops we are fucked, Men run faster have more strength and stamina and can detach themselves from harrowing situations better than women. Do most women want women defending the country?

[@STKS1991]

That's literally the point of the advert, I have no idea how you missed it.

[@Luna-xr3dk]

@@willowwookie9614well I guess we’re fucked then if it’s just women now

[@ruby-im8zf]

@royalairforce i am a air cadet and wanted to know some tips to becoming a coporal.

[@royalairforce]

Hi You would need to ask the Air Cadets team about that on their channel. RAF Recruitment

[@ruby-im8zf]

Royal Air Force ok thank you and wow you’ve made my day I’m soo happy

[@frazlesc6937]

First, pass your first Class cadet and then turn up to an NCO meeting and know who is in charge of your nearest RAF base and so on. Don't be one of those cadets who has control without those stripes that is one way to lose your promotion. Good luck.

[@BuddySpike101]

Just sign up to as much as you can even if it’s not obligatory and when you are there be helpful and take up the role of leader. Don’t settle for second place.

[@jeromemathew4439]

I thought it's wrinkle protection cream advertisement

[@sarahmay8788]

Toxic Feminism 😁

[@jeremyhill9227]

Well said sister.

[@N93000]

I couldn't put my finger on what it was but you nailed it.

[@thatdeliveryguy8975]

I nice advert however cringe it was

[@johnpaddock7761]

I can only reed this in yada's voise

[@AussieRoberts]

You know why it's a Cliche? cause it's the truth.

[@ericlegge2884]

Female UK military personnel are allowed to wear make-up. So, instead of banning make-up, the males are also allowed to wear it. "Women should be defined by actions not clichés", but apparently not far enough to ban the cliché of wearing make-up on the job. Do they get free compact make-up mirrors for that purpose?

[@thenotoriusg]

Wearing make up in and of itself isn't a clique and even if it were that no good reason to ban it. Its doesn't lower the persons ability to serve to shouldn't be banned without genuine justification

[@thenotoriusg]

@Ian Brown What? Also btw I love the stone Rose's and Ian Brown lol

[@iainyoung6878]

@@thenotoriusg a man growing his hair long and not shaving wouldn't affect his ability either. Yet it's not allowed. Funny that...

[@Shad0wFaxx]

@@thenotoriusg Makeup makes women more sexually attractive, it does wonders, so it can become a massive distraction actually. Also the military isn't about vanity so I don't even understand why it would be a topic of debate. What's it got to do with being in the military? Just another luxury afforded to women for no reason.

[@tansyrobson174]

Fantastic!

[@tomharding]

Marketing at its finest. Fantastic advert. 👏👏

[@seronymus]

It's cultural rot propaganda promoting a civilization that doesn't care about family, faith, tradition or morals anymore

[@johnpala7782]

They are thinking about bringing back conscription in America. I wonder if women will be so keen to do the same jobs as their male counterparts then? These woke adverts are cringeworthy.

[@stanleypocock7269]

Not exactly woke, it’s not forcing women to join it’s just saying that the roles are available

[@johnpala7782]

@@stanleypocock7269 Conscriotion will mean women are forced to join. Nothing about being woke.

[@stanleypocock7269]

@@johnpala7782 but this isn’t about conscription, this is about joining yourself. Conscription has nothing to do with this

[@BoarVessel-BCEtruscanCer-xy7et]

RAF defo has the best advertising of all the forces branches.

[@sirius9108]

nationalist or nah?

[@BoarVessel-BCEtruscanCer-xy7et]

Gatta No I’m not? They just seem to hit the message better than the other branches.

[@brookersk]

Mate, you seen the RM adverts? They've gotta be the best out of them all. Especially the more recent ones

[@BoarVessel-BCEtruscanCer-xy7et]

Teri good point, but I’d say almost, As they are a bit samey - I mean recently it’s just been variations of “Creeping through a nondescript jungle” ya get me?

[@brookersk]

Boar Vessel, 600-500 B.C. , Etruscan Ceramic You mustn’t forget the spiders crawling across your face

[@willrawbone6762]

I’m so confused

[@abbiewalster7383]

Anyone in the production in this need a promotion. AMAZING.

[@CallsignPeaches175]

[ RAF laughter intensifies ]

[@tertommy]

AA sent me

[@katewatson9001]

Completely totally awesome! Sharing it everywhere I can touch!

[@lolcurve]

Fun advert :) I think this is way better than that awful Gillette Advert and does well to not be so insulting but I also think with the current political climate you're still going to run into negative comments on this video. Ladies I really hope you don't take any negative comments found here too personally, follow your dreams! The problem is there's a huge "culture war" going on right now and it's SJW's, Feminists and PC culture Vs classic ideals of masculinity. It's an ugly shitstorm of an argument and unfortunately this advert lands slap bang in the middle of it (knowingly or not!?). So to the creators of this ad I'd say it's a very clever idea and you did a great job, but just be aware this is a massively sensitive issue right now - you're likely to get some upset comments!

[@sirhumphreyappleby8399]

I’m all for as many women as can pass the male requirements joining.

[@mikeweckenmann7499]

Keep Britain tidy 🙏🏻

[@stevevater8598]

I fear for the future of our once respectable and effective armed forces. The cancer of PC has reached deep into the command so God help us!!!

[@stevevater8598]

@True Patriot you obviously don't get "it"

[@iaram4462]

This looks like a meme

[@jonessenoj6753]

How did you get round copyright ?

[@jonessenoj6753]

Like with no comment ? Amazing......shoot me now !

[@frazlesc6937]

@@jonessenoj6753 YEET!

[@azazelRising72]

What could possibly go wrong if the standards are lowered so that girls can play too?

[@TheLoachman]

Who says that standards were lowered? My direct experience over many years says otherwise.

[@gracecockayne1013]

Standard don't need to be lowered for girls to play

[@azazelRising72]

@@gracecockayne1013 You know women who can do as many pullups as a man?

[@gracecockayne1013]

@@azazelRising72 many

[@azazelRising72]

@@gracecockayne1013 No you do not.

[@andylaauk]

God help us if this is where our Armed forces is going. #identitypolitics #diversity #quotas

[@EoinFromIreland]

It's called innovation 🤜🏼

[@aaronb2779]

Why does the RAF broadening its recruitment demographic offend you?

[@ministryofanti-feminism1493]

@@EoinFromIreland It's called the decline of White civilization.

[@ministryofanti-feminism1493]

@@aaronb2779 The RAF was built by WHITE MEN. All it's technology from the First World War to the present was invented by WHITE MEN. All the military sacrifices in the various wars of the 20th century were made by WHITE MEN. At the least, WHITE MEN should be at the front of the queue.

[@frazlesc6937]

I like Pineapples ;-)

[@BoarVessel-BCEtruscanCer-xy7et]

FRAZLES C but you literally posted a comment a couple of hours ago saying “It should have men and women in it”?

[@frazlesc6937]

@@BoarVessel-BCEtruscanCer-xy7et oh this took hours to load last night because the wi fi was messed up tonight but i do see your point.

[@frazlesc6937]

@@BoarVessel-BCEtruscanCer-xy7et who cares

[@pedromelo13011997]

Que propaganda maravilhosa ! Apenas consigo aplaudir

[@phatbusted]

If They (Women) die, who's gonna have babies for our future -_-

[@GJ-qt2kk]

Women have more purpose than making babies dumbass.

[@GJ-qt2kk]

Nature also wants us to be naked, scavenging for food in the woods and living in caves. "its nature" is a fucking dumb way to say you think of women as lesser.

[@hiddenassassin3233]

@@GJ-qt2kk They are lesser in many ways to men just as men are lesser to women in ways. It all depends on th scenario and if you're one of those uneducated libtards to not see that then you really don't get a say in any of this

[@GJ-qt2kk]

You actually used the term libtard unironically that's so sad. If a woman can pass all the requirements expected of her then there's no reason to not give them a chance, especially with our crippling man-power problem right now.

[@GJ-qt2kk]

Oh dear looks like I struck a nerve. Libtard is such a childish insult, who says I'm even a liberal? You've really ripped out every strawman in the book for this once lmao. Go cry about women some more, the tears sustain me :)

[@NathanGreenberg]

Well done, RAF.

[@AC-rw7yg]

😊

[@zerosumgamez]

I really like to see the whole British forces occupied by women so my country to have a field day. Thx and keep it up.

[@eman8201]

Hmmm. Sounds good in theory. Unfortunately women in a battlefield predominately made up of men is a recipe for disaster. Women are not as fast, women are not as strong. They are a liability in combat.

[@charlotterea9773]

This is not true. So women are faster than stronger than their male peers and small but strong individuals can actually be helpful to have in combat. I served in the USAF and could do things that my larger male peers could not. We blended our talents to make the unit stronger overall. Women are known to be excellent snipers which does not require great physical strength or speed.

[@OMGolivamarie]

sounds like a threatened man...

[@MrCdrant]

@@charlotterea9773 look past your anecdotes and focus on the statistics. Women are more likely to be injured and become a liability for those around them. But tell us more about those female snipers? Must have met a ton during your time in the Air Force? Bahaha

[@stanp2281]

Stfu

[@Stinger913]

nowaijose More likely to be injured? Citation needed. Bullets don’t discriminate between male and female. That’s statistically impossible too - considering there are more men than women on the battlefield. Get owned liberal.

[@ancientmachine9070]

Gopping

[@mar1lon4]

Sigh.....

[@chriswoods9052]

What the fudge is on their helmets, looks ridiculous

[@frazlesc6937]

It protects the polarised sun shield. If scratched the sun can blind the pilot because it is not filtered through the clouds properly.

[@suenelson5030]

If women want the biggest challenge that life can throw at them then I would suggest this. If you want to have children, STAY AT HOME AND LOOK AFTER THEM PROPERLY. If you don't, that's fine but don't mess around with the most difficult job that life has to offer which is turning out happy, confident, caring and understanding kids who don't need therapists by the age of 8. No matter what women say, thinking that children won't be affected by an absent mother, there is no other way.

[@mmui6819]

@DAVID Dragonetti lmao

[@basketballbros1733]

My step mum made that

[@tasker_9893]

229 squadron is the best

[@FoxholeFightClub]

shame on them

[@nickmccombe5637]

what did they do wrong?

[@HarryWhittle2019]

Shame on... Who? It's just adressing stereotypes of females... I don't see what's wrong.

[@auro1986]

this other than providing service to your male colleagues

[@shellcasing3112]

Guh

[@ashfletcher1339]

Nice advert