No Start After ENGINE SWAP? (Buick Rainier)

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Pine Hollow Auto Diagnostics

Pine Hollow Auto Diagnostics

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@linuspoindexter106
@linuspoindexter106 2 жыл бұрын
Great diagnosis, it shows the value of research. In science there is a saying: "An hour in the library will save you a week in the lab."
@ojmbvids
@ojmbvids 2 жыл бұрын
I like how you call it an "interesting case study" where everyone else would be calling it a "frustrating pain in the a**" ;)
@InsideOfMyOwnMind
@InsideOfMyOwnMind 2 жыл бұрын
I always have the same thought when he says that.
@nbrowser
@nbrowser 2 жыл бұрын
I keep waiting for Ivan here to finally put out a video like "What the F?! I give up!" lol
@gillesthibault429
@gillesthibault429 2 жыл бұрын
Ivan has the infinite patience for working on these $#@! german POS hoopties. A GM is a walk in the park in comparison...
@TonyRule
@TonyRule 2 жыл бұрын
It's only a frustrating PITA if it's yours. Kind of like women.
@VigilanceTech
@VigilanceTech 2 жыл бұрын
Like Eric O. would say "I can smell the desperation in this one"
@randallgoldapp9510
@randallgoldapp9510 2 жыл бұрын
It used to be all you had to worry about was engine mounts and bell housing bolt patterns.
@gillgetter3004
@gillgetter3004 2 жыл бұрын
Ha ha remember those ! Not anymore
@chicanesimon
@chicanesimon 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant and so true
@dieselchevette
@dieselchevette 2 жыл бұрын
Yup. Now I swap the harnesses and everything else over. I don't trust much past the long block...
@nickmalone3143
@nickmalone3143 2 жыл бұрын
@@dieselchevette ...yeah but what if proggraming in ecm is different? Swapping cables dont necessarily work in that instance
@unclemarksdiyauto
@unclemarksdiyauto 2 жыл бұрын
That sure use to be the issues! Not any more!
@The_Redkween
@The_Redkween 2 жыл бұрын
Ivan, you are the only mechanic in the world who would even take that Buick job. “Hey, it’s got an engine swap from a different year and make of vehicle and we can’t get it to start. Can you drive a couple hours here and get it running for us?” 😂
@tvguy12346
@tvguy12346 2 жыл бұрын
I dunno, after the Audi engine swap videos Ivan seems pretty invincible to me.
@Walczyk
@Walczyk 2 жыл бұрын
He’s incredible, seeing him find swapped plugs is amazing.
@robertgary3561
@robertgary3561 Жыл бұрын
He does charger for travel time both ways so he’s making money to travel.
@noelcastle3986
@noelcastle3986 2 жыл бұрын
Your patience and determination is inspiring. Weather from hell , truck from hell , no shelter ,. no internet and a junkyard shop and you still attempt it. Saved all the waveforms and sorted it later. Hope they didn't damage the original PCM with incompatible sensors and or incorrect wiring etc . Great footage of the forest road in snow and the music was awesome you really do live in a beautiful part of the world.
@johngodley7477
@johngodley7477 Жыл бұрын
You demonstrate the difference between a true mechanic and just a repairman you're very methodical in you work and high integrity. Keep up the good work. Appreciate your videos
@kimchee94112
@kimchee94112 5 ай бұрын
That's because he graduated with an engineering degree from the prestigious top rank Ivy League Cornell University and into his third year PhD program before decided on a different path into auto mechanics. Not your typical grease monkey.
@dudeman3986
@dudeman3986 2 жыл бұрын
Why do I feel like I'm getting smarter every time I watch you.. I absorb so much info from you. You are an awesome teacher.. Thank u, Israel. From Oregon
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks dude 😎
@robertmedina6875
@robertmedina6875 2 жыл бұрын
Ivan I know I haven't commented in a while.. However. .. I am still watching all of your videos! I have went on a few no start diag and your hard work on these videos had been a key part of my success! I want to thank you for taking the time to explain wiring diagrams and your methods of diagnosing. Your hard work has made me a better diagnosis tech for sure!!! Many of your videos I watch many times and absorb a ton of information. THANK YOU IVAN! I BELIEVE YOUR A HERO FOR HELPING SO MANY PEOPLE! GOD BLESS YOUR FAMILY IVAN!!👍❤👍❤💯
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 2 жыл бұрын
Robert thank you for your positive comment! Makes my day to know that the videos are making a positive impact :)
@SkalabalaK6
@SkalabalaK6 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome case study! I had the same on a Ford. The starter motor was being turned off by the PCM because PCM was seeing way to many crank pulses and thinking the engine was turning fast.
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly right, intentional starter shut down by PCM 👍
@JoseSilveira-newhandleforYT
@JoseSilveira-newhandleforYT 2 жыл бұрын
When I saw "no start after engine swap" I had a sense of dejá-vu. Turns out this was even more convoluted than the Jeep, with the added problem of no internet to get data. Great reasoning, ending with a radical "remote solution" :-)
@nickmalone3143
@nickmalone3143 2 жыл бұрын
No internet but they got the kid playin banjo on the porch
@JoseSilveira-newhandleforYT
@JoseSilveira-newhandleforYT 2 жыл бұрын
@@nickmalone3143 🙂
@craiggoodwin9704
@craiggoodwin9704 2 жыл бұрын
I think that repair shop way back in the woods without internet service may be finding out things are getting a little bit more complicated over the years! As am I. Looked at the waveforms which seemed all over the place confirming your final diagnosis. Loved the drive through the woods. Had to watch that part twice. Thanks for Sharing!
@nickmalone3143
@nickmalone3143 2 жыл бұрын
Hillbilly Bobs auto repair
@arcadeuk
@arcadeuk 2 жыл бұрын
Got to love that un-even compression sound 🤣 They've probably cranked it until the cylinders washed out and started scoring up the block. Nevermind the engine is coming out anyway
@j.t.johnston3048
@j.t.johnston3048 2 жыл бұрын
Great detective work there, Ivan. Your persistence is one of your greatest assets.
@pootthatbak2578
@pootthatbak2578 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a pair of windshield wipers welded to the crankshaft
@tctwg1
@tctwg1 2 жыл бұрын
Ivan don’t care about copy right strikes lol. Great video again. Looking forward to the others. 👍👍👍👍👍
@wyattoneable
@wyattoneable 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, the change in direction was crazy but really interesting. Research saved the day on this one. Following along is like watching a mystery being solved little by little.
@stealthg35infiniti94
@stealthg35infiniti94 2 жыл бұрын
Ivan, History repeats itself. This is about the 3rd + car, crank no start due to incompatible engine swaps. Perhaps it would be a good idea when the customer says "Engine Swap", STOP, verify compatibility before spending time diagnosing.
@MC-om7ds
@MC-om7ds 2 жыл бұрын
By his expressions and commentary I definitely think he enjoys diagnosing this kinda stuff even tho with his experience he could prolly guess what the actual issue is fairly easily . And it makes for good videos.
@cyberslacker5150
@cyberslacker5150 2 жыл бұрын
A better idea would be to say to the customer: "Pay me for my diagnostic, whether the engine is compatible or not".
@ehsnils
@ehsnils 2 жыл бұрын
@@MC-om7ds Every time you get to a situation like this you learn something new. That's the important thing - there are no failures, just more data.
@kevin9c1
@kevin9c1 2 жыл бұрын
I think the 58 tooth reluctor was causing the ECM to see high RPM which stopped the cranking. GM cara of this era basically all auto-crank so it would crank until some RPM deemed to suggest a running engine and stop. Look at the crazy tach bounce.
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly right 😉
@billlangdon9198
@billlangdon9198 2 жыл бұрын
Ivan love your diagnostic videos and your taste in music. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bill 👍
@jfv65
@jfv65 2 жыл бұрын
Nice diagnosis. I once had a similar problem on an old Volvo (LH2.4, 60-2 flywheel) They stuck in a new flywheel + clutch. Crank+NoStart... still spark + fuel, no errors. Spark was fired at the wrong time because the flywheel was clocked way off. 8 flywheel bolts = 8 possible clockings...🤦‍♂️yes, they had to do the job all over again.
@brianmason8400
@brianmason8400 2 жыл бұрын
That would be kind of a pain....1 in 8 chances of it starting....not very good odds.....lolol...
@paulkirkland1535
@paulkirkland1535 2 жыл бұрын
jfv65; You're spot on with your diagnosis on that Volvo (LH2.4 60-2 flywheel). I had a similar issue years ago with an Alfa Romeo Spyder 2.0 l I-4. It almost drove me up the wall trying to figure this out. Like you said the flywheel was clocked incorrectly so the spark was way out of time. It caused several mechanics to just give up and one in particular left the trade altogether. So yes I've seen issues of this sort time and time again. I've repaired motor vehicles that even the dealers gave up on several times and yes I dealt with a Chrysler product with a very similar issue where the engine refused to start after being replaced. Everything has to be a perfect match or no go,just the way it is.
@stevebot
@stevebot 2 жыл бұрын
That's piss-poor engineering out of the starting block. That ranks right up there with keyless crank gears on timing chain systems
@TonyRule
@TonyRule 2 жыл бұрын
So expensive to machine a locating dowel at the time of manufacture. Bean-counter says no.... **cough**
@gav3379
@gav3379 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Ivan, I just had the same problem with a 2006 Chevy Equinox 3.4L. I swapped the engine from a 2007 and every thing bolted up exactly. Then I noticed the cam sensor plug was different so I tried swapping the sensor but it was physically different. So I then swapped the connector with the 2007 because they had the same wires. Turns out the cam in the 2007 engine is physically different than the 2006. Also the the crank sensor looked different but the plugs were identical. After connecting everything I tried starting it but there was no spark what so ever. The 2007 3.4L engine has a different cam and crank reluctors wheels and so was totally incompatible. I finally had to re-swap for a 2006 engine and it cranked right up. Only a year difference and they were totally different.
@brianmason8400
@brianmason8400 2 жыл бұрын
That would have TOTALLY sucked!!
@adotintheshark4848
@adotintheshark4848 2 жыл бұрын
You would have thought the wrecking yard would have caught that.
@nickmalone3143
@nickmalone3143 2 жыл бұрын
Ok have heard this "reluctor" mentioned...what exactly is it ?
@adotintheshark4848
@adotintheshark4848 2 жыл бұрын
@@nickmalone3143 the reluctor is what the sensor reads as its spinning around. It's attached to the crankshaft.
@kevinwashburn9687
@kevinwashburn9687 2 жыл бұрын
08' and 09' GMT360s I6s got the LS style reluctor wheel and LS PCM too. There's a KZbin video out there explaining the updated heads, crank, rods, computer, and othet I6 mods in the latter model years. All those factory mods bumped HP from 285 (06-07) to 290 (08-09), nice GM, but it didn't offset all the crazy GM oddities (i.e., gotta drop oil pan to remove timing cover for 1 stupid 10mm bolt, ugh). Good sluething Ivan!
@AP9311
@AP9311 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, glad you didn't go further to do more cars, better to get back home and try again! Wow, i remember this study video when the engine was incorrectly swapped in few videos ago! Glad you remember why! It's so invaluable tool to investigate and check the scope and info. Great to see! Love this video! Many thumbs up 👍
@mtebaldi1
@mtebaldi1 2 жыл бұрын
You are the smartest if one of the smartest Technicians I have watched or seen in a long time.
@secretsquirrel9722
@secretsquirrel9722 2 жыл бұрын
You always keep such a great attitude with this left field stuff. I used to get really frustrated when people had messed with something well beyond their knowledge. 9 times out of 10, there has been zero research carried out past a forum. And it's born out of being a tight ass or thinking they can make a quick buck flipping the car! Then they either cause the original fault to be much worse or create a whole new one. It's clear you get a kick out of it, but it used to send me up the wall. Lol.
@dendkmac
@dendkmac 2 жыл бұрын
Engine swaps can always be fun you really have to plan it out especially with wiring, computer etc. Doing an LS3 475 hp swap into a 60's Corvette right now, this will be #8 I think into various chassis.
@andrewvillanueva3722
@andrewvillanueva3722 2 жыл бұрын
Ivan is master mechanic and he and few others mechanics would even tackle a job like this.
@MrKingdavis13
@MrKingdavis13 2 жыл бұрын
I just did a 2013 Jeep Compass that had the front end replaced after a wreck that included the engine and transmission. After whoever did that work the motor ran but was like it was in limp mode with any throttle input and the X-Mas tree would start flashing everything on the dash so it sat for over 2 years being shuffled from shop to shop until I finally looked at it. The scan tool showed the intake air temperature to be - 70 or something like that and after erasing the long list of codes it was the only dtc that would set immediately. I began with power and grounds and found the main sensor ground for the E.C.M. was grounded to a painted surface along with a few other corrosion issues so corrected them and the temp sensor reported 168 air temp so I replaced it and got good results. A test drive was better but the right rear wheel speed was not reading and was a broken magnet in the bearing so replaced that and customer is happy after all these years.
@hpelisr
@hpelisr 2 жыл бұрын
Well done Ivan, yes watch out for the swap, just because they fit ? doesn't mean it will work.
@joepublic2894
@joepublic2894 2 жыл бұрын
You brought up a very good point.Even though the motor mounts and tranny bolt right up and most of the wiring is the same THE PCM or COMPUTER may totally be different INTERNALLY and even the way they are PROGRAMED.Most the young good mechanics these days hopefully learned that stuff in AUTO TECH classes.Us old guys that did 65 mustangs and GTOs had no such problems.OUR biggest issue was WILL a 427 fir under the hood,and do i need to cut the drive shaft down,and can i get a POSI rear end? oh yah the good old days>>>can you say PRE-SMOG????haha
@NoWr2Run
@NoWr2Run 2 жыл бұрын
@@joepublic2894 100%, LMAO.
@nickmalone3143
@nickmalone3143 2 жыл бұрын
@@joepublic2894 ...thank the democrats for all that pollution regulations starting in the 70s ... now their trying to push EV cars with zero emmisions but high voltage safety issues. Waiting for first tesla/other EV to electrocute passengers in a car crash ...then what ?
@Mikeywil0003
@Mikeywil0003 2 жыл бұрын
I knew the direction this was going before I even watched the entire video. I have seen a TON of people get slid with engine swaps. Everything fitting and bolting up and donor engine from the same body style, it doesn't always mean it will work. Dodge/Jeep 3.7s and 4.7s this happens all the time. I can think of a particularly nasty one, 2002 Dakota and Durango was a mid-year change over. So a motor from one 02 wont always work in another 02. The easy way to tell on that, early models have a PCM with 3 plugs, and later models have a PCM with 4 plugs. They are not interchangeable.
@CaptainNero
@CaptainNero 2 жыл бұрын
Yes because they integrated the transmission control into the pcm
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 2 жыл бұрын
Yup exact same thing happened on that Jeep Liberty lol
@brianmason8400
@brianmason8400 2 жыл бұрын
Yeppers, and speaking of '02, Ford Exploders had a wiring change mid year going to the 4*4 control module under the dash. The 2 modules (early build/late build) will physically plug into the other under the dash, BUT, you start the veh and you suddenly have a fire under the dash in the incorrect module. That was fun to figure out. AND, to make it more fun, it wasn't just mid model year, it was mid month change down to the day. Example: the module from a car built on 2/3/02 wouldn't work in one built on 2/4/02.....
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 2 жыл бұрын
@@brianmason8400 amazing!
@ijusthangouthere2992
@ijusthangouthere2992 2 жыл бұрын
@@brianmason8400 I worked in a "parts store" several years ago and that was a real issue with Ford. Some of the '80s models were just as frustrating as yours. I recall ignition modules having a different color grommet where the wires came out. Think some of those had matching connectors. Had to know the specific date of manufacture if they didn't bring their old part with them. Guess some things never change.
@jorgefernandez-mv8hu
@jorgefernandez-mv8hu 2 жыл бұрын
That was very interesting. So just because the engine fits, it doesn't mean that it will work. Great Diag! You made the right call by leaving. The truck was never going to start as is.
@vpimike2646
@vpimike2646 2 жыл бұрын
Great find, Ivan. Too bad you didn't know that earlier, but it was impressive that you researched the issue and solved the mystery for the customer.
@PhillipBailey
@PhillipBailey 2 жыл бұрын
Once you got the crank signal to be excepted the computer thought the engine had started due to the higher tooth count. 58x versus 7x that's why the starter cut off. Got to love junkyard swaps. Good diag.
@gordonrichardson2972
@gordonrichardson2972 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, at 15:50 the RPM counter went over 1K while cranking the starter.
@vwwrenchie314
@vwwrenchie314 2 жыл бұрын
In the middle of the boonies, in rain or in snow, Ivan will do his best to make the @#$% thing go. You will be glad you called PHAD! 😎🇨🇦👍
@ecaparts
@ecaparts 2 жыл бұрын
Nice case study. When you showed the crank signal with the scope, I was thinking there was a bent pin for sure at the PCM connector (there was also the circuit code). Thanks for the video, Ivan!
@lokyblack3379
@lokyblack3379 8 ай бұрын
I see this a lot of time specially when people buy a yunk yard engine, be careful when swap engine check first right fit, thanks Ivan for this excellent analysis
@bluesky2145
@bluesky2145 2 жыл бұрын
Great stuff as always.Compression fuel spark and drum roll timing
@richardcranium5839
@richardcranium5839 2 жыл бұрын
i once looked at a car for a friend. she was thinking about buying it. body was good(for nw pa it was amazing) had quite a few miles, price was fair to even good until i opened the hood. every sensor was wired with blue wire nuts. yeah engine swap from hell. that was a big no.
@nickmalone3143
@nickmalone3143 2 жыл бұрын
So if your nuts are blue you have a problem ...lol
@ehsnils
@ehsnils 2 жыл бұрын
If it starts then replacing the wire nuts would be a minor but time consuming issue.
@coreym3201
@coreym3201 2 жыл бұрын
Loved the Beatles through the snow Ivan. Ready for the sunshine though here in PA
@Peter-pv8xx
@Peter-pv8xx 2 жыл бұрын
I recall another case where a guy swapped engines but didn't swap the wiring harness from a different year I think and it caused the engine not to start because of a wire on a sensor or something, people don't realize that one year makes all the difference, it would be nice if a list were compiled of what engines and years would be interchangeable, get to work Ivan and do it, you're the man for the job.
@pigeonsil240sx
@pigeonsil240sx 2 жыл бұрын
just helped neighbor who had a 92 civic hatch with a 2008 tsx k24 engine swap thar used a hondata ecu for 2004 k20 rsx and 2006 accord transmission..needed to download 3 seperate fsm and tooks me days of research just to sort out what what what.the good news was this was actually common and surprised there was tons of info.turned out to be tps was wired wrong and fuel pump intank hose rupture. heres the real impressive part,he had literally shorted 5v ref many times and still the ecu didnt fry and im talking him bypass testing random things and bare ecu wires from sensors shorting to ground infact when i got their the tps wires were bare touching the hood of the car,im really impressed with the abuse these 5v ref can take.
@101fish9
@101fish9 Жыл бұрын
My snow on trees and good music. Thank you.
@themechanic6117
@themechanic6117 2 жыл бұрын
Very fun video. That twist at the end was better than a M. Night Shyamalan movie 🤣👍
@Uticagreens
@Uticagreens 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent work as usual. In addition, with the vintage Beatles music, you also have good taste in music.
@johnjennings2672
@johnjennings2672 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, Had a job like this some years ago. A local muffler shop replaced a shot Sebring 2.7 engine which would only crank/no start. Scanner showed a crank/can timing error. I pulled the cam sensor and engine stated right up. Found that all 2.7s are not alike. Late models had different cam timing!
@vwbusguy1020
@vwbusguy1020 2 жыл бұрын
I have learned so much from this channel. Great talent ,!
@conrailfan6277
@conrailfan6277 2 жыл бұрын
Thats cool you can save those wave forms for future reference Ivan, as a Trucker I absolutely hate winter!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@PinBall3
@PinBall3 2 жыл бұрын
Word of the Day _Compatibility_ Just the cranking of the engine was an indication something was awry Good Sleuthing , Ivan
@Sandmansa
@Sandmansa 2 жыл бұрын
I ran into a similar problem with a 2002 Jeep Liberty when I tried to install an engine from a 2004 Jeep Liberty. The crankshaft reluctor rings and crank position sensors were completely different.
@nickmalone3143
@nickmalone3143 2 жыл бұрын
Is a reluctor a timing wheel for the crank sensor ??
@Sandmansa
@Sandmansa 2 жыл бұрын
@@nickmalone3143 yes
@binarybox.binarybox
@binarybox.binarybox 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting video and excellent research...well done, Ivan.
@davidut55
@davidut55 Жыл бұрын
After you grounded the wire, got a strong rpm signal but problem was too many pulses so the ecm believed it started already, not just cranking. Hat a similar problem with a 1.5 dci engine, put a used engine but very hard to start. Got cam sensor fault, after some fault finding, turns out the cam reluctor ring was different than what it was supposed to be. After replacing the camshaft from the old engine problem resolved.
@MalcDavison
@MalcDavison 2 жыл бұрын
Nice to watch this from the Sunny Costa Del Sol Spain mate.........The weather looks atrocious lol
@Markb8608
@Markb8608 2 жыл бұрын
great detective work. you have the patience of a saint. they would have made you eat your cost and time before they would admit they guessed it wrong.
@lovetolearn5253
@lovetolearn5253 2 жыл бұрын
Bernie got another magnetized tigger. This time its the cam. You should check it out, very informative.
@Monza62000
@Monza62000 2 жыл бұрын
with that snow on back roads we call it corvair time
@johnpetersen8116
@johnpetersen8116 2 жыл бұрын
My great grandfather was an engineer and race coordinator for Rainier motor cars....in 1908! Buick bought them around 1912 or so.....
@mosesperez5353
@mosesperez5353 2 жыл бұрын
I wish it was cold down here in South Texas. We already hit 100 degrees and heat index was 109 the last two days
@tgoodm1
@tgoodm1 2 жыл бұрын
Nice to see the Verus back in action.
@brianw8963
@brianw8963 2 жыл бұрын
First thing I thought was someone got some wires or connectors wrong on this swap, remembered that from another Ivan adventure!
@garystclair7194
@garystclair7194 2 жыл бұрын
ran into the same problem years ago with a 2.2 s-10 swap.it would start but it wouldnt run 15mph because the crank reluctor was in a different spot.customer supplied engine and he had to pay twice.
@JustAnAverageBrad
@JustAnAverageBrad 2 жыл бұрын
i remember buying a bravada with a shot 4.2....one of the cylinder sleeves was knocking...anyway long story short EVERY SINGLE HEAD BOLT SNAPPED OFF IN THE BLOCK....it didnt really matter as i was doing an engine swap but it just stands out in my mind because ive never seen every single bolt snap like that before
@Garth2011
@Garth2011 2 жыл бұрын
"Hold the phone !" The shop has no internet? Well...that pretty much tells me they are NOT the shop you want to work on your car unless your car is an older one without any OBDII. They didn't do any homework prior to the engine swap "Hello, McFly". That completely explains the reason for the "Parts Canon" repair methods they do there. Yikes...stay away.
@moosemobileautorepair
@moosemobileautorepair 2 жыл бұрын
LOL 😆 🤣 😂
@johnstutzer8664
@johnstutzer8664 2 жыл бұрын
Picturesque neck of the woods you got there.👍
@brainndamage
@brainndamage 2 жыл бұрын
Replace the whole engine, or replace the cam reluctor and crank flywheel, either way the engine has to come out. It sounds bad but it might just be cylinder wash.
@FoxyThePirate
@FoxyThePirate 2 жыл бұрын
My Taurus had a crank no start (because it’s a Taurus haha) but it was really simple to fix, the main injector plug had literally melted, now I never could figure out why it melted like it did but still it was a easy fix compared to what that car has done to me prior lmao
@MTLeopold
@MTLeopold 2 жыл бұрын
So the lesson here is when you hear "engine swap" you find out what engine before you even look at it. Good one.
@GreyRockOne
@GreyRockOne 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, nice work Ivan! Junk yards have good track records I see, 5 fuel pumps only to find a twisted fuel line, wrong engines, I'd love to be a fly on the wall when you told them the news. Oy Vey..
@weshawkins7165
@weshawkins7165 2 жыл бұрын
Good video Ivan. You really have to be an investigator on these jobs. How do you bill out a job like this when you time in the vehicle and travel time?
@mikechiodetti4482
@mikechiodetti4482 2 жыл бұрын
Obviously, no one took the time to check for the differences between the two engines. Add to the problem, no Internet service at the job site. Good one Ivan!
@blueskiesmobileauto4253
@blueskiesmobileauto4253 2 жыл бұрын
Epic!! Well done Ivan!
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it Josiah! This one definitely required a multi-channel scope haha
@BillSW
@BillSW 2 жыл бұрын
show more driving bonus footage. never seen roads like that
@notsureigaf
@notsureigaf 2 жыл бұрын
As soon as I saw the different looking waveforms I thought of your Liberty video, all the weird cranking symptoms caused by Chrysler changing the cam gear "windows" several times over the course of the 3.7 production.
@dustcommander100
@dustcommander100 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! What a booby trap for you to walk into! Great going! You are really sharp to catch something like that, which as the Germans would say "It cannot be!".
@RichardHeadGaming
@RichardHeadGaming 2 жыл бұрын
I ran into cam gear change on chrysler Minivan 2.8, 2.9 only one year dif in engine but gear in the newer engine had a 1 tooth slot dif and would not start. Vehicle owner ended up paying me to change timing gear and it ran great.
@davidmcclain5180
@davidmcclain5180 2 жыл бұрын
Really terrific video. It was like the Jeep engine swap.
@bomber127
@bomber127 2 жыл бұрын
Having to work in those weather conditions I'd consider a cheap pop-up gazebo over your work area
@roxanneabbott8424
@roxanneabbott8424 2 жыл бұрын
Please be careful out there!! You'll get it next round!!!
@arthurfricchione8119
@arthurfricchione8119 2 жыл бұрын
Ivan excellent video. Plus excellent scenic video with good music. What was the shops response ? Just wondering. Looking forward to the rest of the trip 😊
@somerandomguy3868
@somerandomguy3868 2 жыл бұрын
Can almost here the guys at the salvage yard, as much fun as an engine swap is I don't know anyone that does it for fun
@dblr616
@dblr616 2 жыл бұрын
The shop is gonna be mad when they gotta swap that engine out again … those things suck you gotta take struts out to get to the engine mount bolts which You gotta split the suspension anyway because of the cv axles that hook to the differential that goes through the oil pan lol which it’s gravy just a lot of extra steps from a typical engine swap
@billneu9520
@billneu9520 2 жыл бұрын
Great music anyway thanks for your time, never miss your videos Bill N LI NY
@juancarloscrane8089
@juancarloscrane8089 2 жыл бұрын
I seeing this before and I switched the reluctor but on these engines may be not possible good analysis Ivan
@baxrok2.
@baxrok2. 2 жыл бұрын
Research ftw! Nice work Ivan.
@nv1493
@nv1493 2 жыл бұрын
If buying a Craigslist car is too tame for you, buy one from a wrecking yard 😐
@imp736
@imp736 2 жыл бұрын
Love the song, "In My Life" by the Beatles.
@gonzgarr1592
@gonzgarr1592 2 жыл бұрын
Ivan you are Amazing another great diagnostic job
@ehsnils
@ehsnils 2 жыл бұрын
Right sensor and also the wheel the sensor works on has to match. To me it looks like they changed to an index wheel with finer resolution between the model years, probably to cope with emissions standards. So moving both from the old engine could be enough. And that's for both crankshaft and cam.
@GarthGoldberg
@GarthGoldberg 2 жыл бұрын
It's like 77 deg F in Boston today. It's snowing in State College PA?
@cyberslacker5150
@cyberslacker5150 2 жыл бұрын
Great video Evan! I've had similar cases like these where the engine is incompatible, and then I have trouble getting paid. They want me to get an incompatible engine running by force. Did you get paid for this work? Sometimes people don't want to invest in more work removing an engine and replacing it with the proper one. Plus having to pay for your diagnostic. That evaporates their profit. You have to be clear what the outcomes might be before your diagnostic starts. Absolutely beautiful scenery. But it was kinda dangerous driving so fast in icy, twisty mountain roads.
@bigfoot9445
@bigfoot9445 2 жыл бұрын
Help me learn here... would a PCM swap from the donor vehicle not be possible? Or would there be too many incompatibilities with other modules/systems?
@donaldisrael7147
@donaldisrael7147 2 жыл бұрын
I loved cars with junkyard writing.
@RussellBooth1977
@RussellBooth1977 2 жыл бұрын
It's the same as how my 2002 Model series 1 Holden VY SS Commodore is fitted with a 5.7 litre Chevrolet LS1 V8 engine but the later 6 litre Chevrolet L76 V8 engine which is found in the Holden series 2 VZ SS Commodore in about 2006 then it was fitted into all of the VE SS Commodores all of the way up to the series 1 VF SS Commodores. My point is even after buying the extension wiring harnesses for the Knock sensors & the camshaft position sensor the Delph PCM will not run it unless the 3 bolt LS1 camshaft & matching reluctor wheel which is the top camshaft sprocket is fitted & the camshaft trigger wheel in the L76 V8 engine is swapped over to the LS1 V8 crankshaft trigger wheel which is a big job because the crankshaft has to be removed to swap it over. If it's a VE series 2 SS Commodore L76 V8 engine the oil pump realistically needs to be swapped over to a lower volume oil pump & the AFM (Active fuel management) or DOD (displacement on demand) delete kit including standard LS7 hydraulic lifters needs to be fitted. If it's an L76 V8 engine which is fitted into up to a VE series 1 Commodore (pre 2009) model then it already has been ordered from Chevrolet with that fitted into it. So, anything is possible but it's easier for me to keep the tuned LS1 V8 engine which was tuned to put out as much power as the 6 litre V8 engine when I first got it but it's tuned to put out more power now. The difference is that the 5.7 litre Chevrolet LS1 V8 engine is run by a Delphi PCM & the 6 litre Chevrolet L76 V8 engine is run by a Bosch PCM in the Commodore in Australia so they're both different !
@Airman..
@Airman.. 2 жыл бұрын
Ls1 pcm can run ls2/6.0, crank trigger could be fixed with a signal converter or a better solution upgrade to an aftermarket pcm like Holly terminator, you neen to extend your knock sensors harness and change the cam sproket to late gen4 4x tooth instead your oe 2x
@tylerwilliams3868
@tylerwilliams3868 2 жыл бұрын
the info giving from the snap on verus is incredible. i know to use it wisely but damn even connector pin outs and wave forms thats insane! downloaded to the tool, with no need for internet. ive been really looking into the autel ms919 or ultra. i wonder if they have information like
@fieldsofomagh
@fieldsofomagh 2 жыл бұрын
As soon as engine swap was mooted, alarm bells went off in the design department. Nothing stays the same as is with new models
@tomvetter6928
@tomvetter6928 2 жыл бұрын
Love the Beatles, and your channel.
@palladini9718
@palladini9718 2 жыл бұрын
No idea what day you shot this video, but we here in southern Ontario Canada, we have not had any April snow
@macdaddyns
@macdaddyns 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome to another episode of the Forensic Auto Tech.... At the crime scene - There is a Buick that wont start. There is no internet service and it is snowing. Will Ivan be able to piece together the clues and solve this mystery?
@CaptainNero
@CaptainNero 2 жыл бұрын
Always verify any model year or mid-year changes before putting a huge paperweight in
@Rein_Ciarfella
@Rein_Ciarfella 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, Ivan! Thought you might appreciate this. It’s about small engine work but I thought of you and your electrical diagnostic skills. I just learned something today that would cause the same symptoms as a failing coil when its laminations are starting to come apart at operating temps and the engine shuts down. I was reminded of Arch’s Garage and a couple of coil testing videos he did. Apparently a failed spark plug can cause the exact same symptom. It resistance tests fine when out of the engine but gets wonky and fails when it gets to temp. James Condon did a generator video three years ago and finally found the cause of engine shutdown when he put what seemed like a good plug in his vice and heated it to operating temp with a torch, then tested it. Sure enough, it was fine before heating but after heating resistance values were all over the map until it cooled down again. Have you ever seen this before? I wonder how many times people have swapped out coils but didn’t know this was what actually caused the issue and it still wasn’t solved with a good coil. 👍🔧🧰
@westtexas501
@westtexas501 2 жыл бұрын
Had a similar problem with the new guy at the shop, I believe it was a dodge caravan. had to swap out the flex plate from original engine. 🤣
@nickmalone3143
@nickmalone3143 2 жыл бұрын
When did swap a few years back i had to swap out to old oil pan for clearance reasons...
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