NO TRUSSES? | Stick Framed Roof - Shop Build 04

[@jonesfotodirector]

Listen, Sam: I am surely in your debt for posting this video. I’m also working pretty much by myself, and so for the first time am having to figure out how to, for example, hold a ridge board in place while I size and attach rafters. Nice job, man!

[@Samcraftcom]

I am happy to have helped in some way! The #1 thing I would change: don't make the bird's mouth cut so deep. I dropped mine down too low. There's not been any bad results, it's just cut farther into the thickness of the rafter than is normal.

[@jonesfotodirector]

Yeah, I checked code before clamping up my block on the bird’s mouth end, and since 1 1/2” is all that’s required for contact on both parts of the cut, I went for just over that - probably only 1 3/4” deep on the vertical cut. Thanks again!

[@lionelpalomares6578]

This is hands down the easiest for diy'ers Video ever. No math involved other than measuring the center of the shed.

[@jerryhubbard4461]

This past year, I built a 12x24 wood working shop. All the room I had or it would have been bigger. I did the roof with a 10-12 pitch. I love it. On one end I built a loft across the end coming our 4 feet. I won't go a loft on the other end as it is where lumber storage is. I Love the hight ceiling as I never have to worry about hitting the ceiling when flipping a board. I also put LED lighting in the ceiling. One light with 4 wings puts out 12,800 lumens. On the ends I used 850 lumen lights. Like daylight in the shop. Keep up the good work. It sure is fun building your own shop.

[@jerryhubbard4461]

Oh, I have NO ceiling joist in the building. I cross braced the 2x6 rafters near the top and nailed hurricane clips to the wall

[@Samcraftcom]

It really is great fun getting to build my own shop. I'll be reusing my current workshop lights (LED) and look forward to putting it all together soon. :)

[@michaelholmes8429]

Loved it! Well explained and, despite your “solo” tradition, was delighted to see your other helpers! Great job, and now my own will be much easier thanks to your advice.

[@kellycarroll6829]

love the bird's mouth! good job Sam & Angela!

[@kirky-0-rex190]

Samcraft=Yellowstone....cant miss one!!!

[@LandtoHouse]

I notice the wind picked up just for this ladder and roof project. Fun times.

[@Samcraftcom]

It sure did! Thanks Mr. Wind. LOL

[@TheEdgeofTech]

Nice work Sam! I love seeing it all come together!

[@Samcraftcom]

Thanks a bunch!

[@quickfixstat]

Hey buddy! Keep on rocking it out! Thank you for another great video.

[@GregsWorkshopOregon]

Looking good! My 3 year old is really enjoying your series.

[@maxpol007]

Don't let your 3 year old learn how to do it wrong. Just find better video is the way to go...

[@judygrimm1815]

Anyone wanting to build any building should follow your techniques! That's how I did it too but sure wish they would have had KZbin back then.

[@stevewhitt9109]

Love this video. My wife is my assistant. Great job.

[@ronaldwilliams4290]

Going to start calling you Sam the wonder man. Good job.

[@robbiterry38]

looking good man, love watching

[@Samcraftcom]

Much appreciated

[@lefefesole8948]

Good job sir, and your family god bless you all

[@djterry1218]

You the man, Sam!

[@TheBellvueRanch]

Thank you! I am enjoying watching the series. I think it is super cool that the family is helping! Such a GREAT education for the kids!!

[@Samcraftcom]

Thanks! They’re having fun too!

[@RheaBrady]

I am so glad I stumbled across your videos. Learning so much, can't wait to build my shop now.

[@craigstewart6879]

Sam, still a cool dude on a ten speed bike, kick ass!!!

[@stevedonalson5675]

Looking good SAM!

[@craignash4736]

Hey Sam Love your family. Craig. Pa.

[@Samcraftcom]

Thanks so much

[@TheJustonemore]

Great helping hands and fast too they are

[@remotetrapper8991]

That was a fantastic video !!!!

[@Samcraftcom]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@maryofventura4767]

This is a Geometry Lab for the boys! They'll not be heard saying, "When we will ever use this?" Great job!!

[@sevans5714]

i have watched many hours of building videos. Sir, you are the best I have watched. I am not a builder AT ALL. You have given me the confidence to try to build my own outdoor building.

[@Samcraftcom]

Wow, thanks! I'm def. not a pro, but happy to show what (little) I do know to help anyone else! :) Thanks Steve!

[@RobHarding]

Agree with this 100%. For some reason it gave me confidence too.

[@maxpol007]

@@RobHarding Just don't follow to close, cause your building will collapse before you can think about finishing it... Check better videos for framing the roof, at least.

[@LogHewer]

​@@maxpol007 Ignorant comment... it won't collapse any more than his did. 😂 Unclench, buddy.

[@tracyboyd4867]

Well done Sam...

[@17allen17]

Looking good! Congratulations

[@matthewjolly7293]

Coming along nicely!

[@HoneyHollowHomestead]

Being able to sit down and relax to watch your 2 videos this morning has been a real challenge with an obnoxious kitten running around here this morning. Thankfully you post 2 videos!

[@Batendor]

Love watching your videos Sam, best wishes.

[@thehandymancenter]

Very nice job on the rafters. entertaining and informative video as well. Thank you.

[@JimDockrellWatertone]

Looking good Sam.

[@Samcraftcom]

Thanks 👍

[@henrymcdonald870]

Nice job

[@AlmostHomestead]

Great video. Nice work Sam. It's looking real good. I had to wipe the tears away looking at your nice flat ground and lack of snow. Haha!

[@Samcraftcom]

Hahahaha!!! We pay for it in the Summer. :)

[@patriciamontague6035]

Looks good.😀

[@harvmac69]

Cool video! Thanks man!

[@mankind5709]

Respect, you did that all by yourself.

[@likeadog7752]

Great video.

[@ruthisrael1292]

Hey Sam & Family! Love your channel I always look forward to the next episode!

[@Samcraftcom]

Yay! Thank you!

[@DBacaMaker]

I am genuinely enjoying this series!

[@guybowers9094]

Just about finished with the shop addition to my existing garage which I built myself so I'm really enjoying getting to watch this build

[@johnnyrateau3713]

love this

[@tedc6694]

I frickin amazed. I'm about to start on basically the same thing tomorrow. My ridge peak is sagging so bad and rafters are too rotten to use so I'm just gonna tear off the whole thing and start fresh. But not only did you do a great job on the roof... you did a great job FILMING and EDITING the work. I think I'll try that too, but I have no hope of doing as well. Always wanted to try making little films. Maybe tomorrow will be my first step into KZbin land and Phase One of my 37 step plan TO RULE THE WORLD!! errr.. I mean... Thanks for the video. Ya did good, kid

[@RobHarding]

Top video, great stuff. Nice simple build, good process. I love your attitude too - I was stressing out about truss v stick roof and at the end you just say "it doesn't really matter" - very helpful. Love that the tractor not working was just a small hurdle not a massive PITA. Thanks.

[@MattMadeIt123]

Looking good. I know all about doing things on your own. I put up an aluminum patio cover that the manufacturer said was a 3-6 person job by myself. With a little creativity and mechanical aptitude one man can get a lot done.

[@DaveGatton]

Looking good Sam. Well done. 👍🏻

[@randycrager4074]

I know that Engineered Trusses have gone up in price but they are so much easier to deal with and if they aren't busy can set them for you and before you know it the roof is ready for lateral bracing and sheeting. I'll pay extra for the trusses especially in most states the codes call for it and the fact that they are protects the buyer and the seller or homeowner!

[@DJKPONCEBEMUSIC]

Loved the video simple and effective you made it look easy good job

[@1kmlarose]

It is such a pleasure watching you build your dream! What an inspiration. Can't wait to see what comes out of your new shop. Good job.

[@Samcraftcom]

Thanks so much!

[@andredivine9675]

Salute!

[@dolinick]

i love this project. i am building a small "cabin" on these landscaping blocks. it's a 12x12 structure. i didn't even level it because the area was pretty flat already. in the future i will build better foundations for my buildings i hope.

[@roguea987]

I originally wanted to use a ridge beam in my workshop; but, I was new to all of this and having a joint in the ridge beam made me nervous. So, I used gusset plates on my roof framing for its simplicity. It was after all the first building I ever built. I wish I knew then what I know now. LOL. Thanks Sam!

[@RedBeardedBuilder]

That’s the great thing about KZbin it’s basically a unlimited supply of knowledge!

[@roguea987]

@@RedBeardedBuilder KZbin University has made me a Jack of very many trades.

[@asablue4816]

Remember what he installed is call a ridge board not a ridge beam. The ridge board is just used to attach the rafters to. There is no weight bearing on this ridge board so it can be in pieces and often is. You can actually use a 1x for this board if you would like. Simply used to tie the rafters to.

[@sandywilkerson8525]

Great job Sam!😊

[@roadtripnivhon]

New subscriber here! This video comes in handy for newbie like me. All the best!

[@Samcraftcom]

Glad it was helpful!

[@justinbanks2380]

Wow, Sam sure does work fast when sped up like that! 🤣 Also, loved the kite photo bomb in the corner as you were trying to use the tractor. Love following along this with you.

[@Samcraftcom]

If only, huh?! :) Yeah, the boys were in the front yard/field flying them while I worked. :)

[@stellaunger8568]

Great video Sam! Love your channel 😃

[@Samcraftcom]

Thanks so much!

[@deannaoverstreet4146]

Looking great!

[@robertbankhead8661]

This is sooo much fun doing this type work. I know you're enjoying the crap out of this. Would love to have been there to help.

[@Desertpeople-t7]

Good info

[@stanpak007]

Two issues. Before framing roof you need to sheath the walls or brace them. Second it is necessary to add wall braces (and rafter ties). Otherwise all walls go apart and roof will collapse.

[@simonr6793]

Sam if you haven't already cut off the ends of your rafters I'd think about leaving at least one side that way you have the option of building a woodstore area attached to the side of your workshop in the future and you can use the roofing rafters to continue the pitch sloping down and over the woodstore area !. Looking good so far 👌 👍. As always buddy 💯% 👍 🇬🇧.

[@RedBeardedBuilder]

Great idea!

[@Pope-A-Dope]

I liked your video. Could you have cut the end of the rafters to make them straight for a fascia board? I’m just thinking it would make it easier to attach a gutter for rain catchment. Is there something wrong with doing that, or would that work?

[@TheWoodHaven]

I like this method better. Gives you the option for a vaulted ceiling. Now quickly over to the other channel.

[@unionse7en]

Adding rafter ties later? To resist the spreading load?

[@unionse7en]

ah i see you have them added in a later video, good for peeps watching to know.

[@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy]

Looking good by the way! 🍺

[@morick11]

I had noticed your speed square trick in the previous videos and thought, what a great idea! I wonder why I had never though of that! :) I also haven't always owned a speed square. I am enjoying your build and first found you becuase of searching for CNC content. Thanks for taking your time to make videos!

[@morick11]

@@JDDupuy I didn't say that I was the most up-to-date kind of guy. :)

[@Samcraftcom]

Glad it was helpful! I appreciate your comment and hope to be back showing some CNC work soon! I have hopes of incorporating some good storage solutions in this new shop and hopefully can use the CNC to help make some things for it. :)

[@teresalynnturner781]

That was interesting! I got two things against me when building stuff...1. I'm a girl. 2. I work alone too. I just found your channel, but I love it! You have a new fan!

[@Samcraftcom]

Welcome aboard! Being a girl is not a negative against you! My wife Angela can work circles around me every day! :)

[@Lorddarthvader1701]

Nice process, I bet your paying a small fortune for that lumber, it's crazy right now

[@Samcraftcom]

I only thought it was high when I bought it! Thankfully that was early December 2021. I bought all the material in bulk at once for the whole project -- was afraid of any shortages causing issues. Since then prices have only gone up big time!

[@ozarkliving5970]

Great job Sam! I’m about to start the framing of my gable roof and was looking for idea how to support the ridge beam and ran across your videos. I like the temporary support you used because I am doing it by myself on a self sufficient off-grid homestead in the Ozarks that I am creating. Thanks for the video and tips. Keep up the great work bud catch ya on the next one.

[@michaelsnell4034]

Make sure to add hangers and hurricane clips. Those trusses will sag and spread the walls over the years. Gussets would be best but cut your overhead storage n ceiling height.

[@Samcraftcom]

It was quick, but there are four rafter ties installed to help keep everything right. I'll add more next trip to the store that I can pay the (terribly high) price for some 12 footers again.

[@tonylozano8574]

Your video very informative, especially what to watch out for. Once a template is created: how much time do you think it takes to cut one rafter? Like maybe 3 minutes each? I'm trying to calculate time schedule. One carpenter told me it will take him 4 days to cut 50 rafters and install 22 OSB sheathing. One more thing 2 people working, one is the cut man.

[@richardroyles1423]

God bless. Kansas

[@jackalantern4276]

If I'm doing a 7/12 pitch, how far does my ridge beam need to be off the center of my wall? Thanks Loved the video!

[@Dan-z6b3d]

A birds mouth is simply a plumb cut and a level cut. So draw a plum mark and slide a 2x4 scrap down the plumb mark and when it touches the bottom of the rafter draw the level line

[@errolorticke5573]

It is very important that both sides are equal.

[@berserkerusmc7613]

Rig beam or Ridge board ? Looks like the latter. Either way, really , really good work. I like your, "I'll do it myself" attitude.

[@namkebanyanklariti]

Great job. How many inches or feet between each rafter?

[@Samcraftcom]

This roof is 24 inch on center (24" OC) spacing.

[@seekerbee4494]

Since this shop is designed to move on skids. Are you modifying any of your construction to account for the potential strain of moving it in the future? Thanks, appreciate the teaching details you include

[@Samcraftcom]

No extra considerations, no. Comparing this to the sheds built on lots that are hauled around, this is much more rock-solid. In regard to moving it... we'll only ever move it on our property and that's a "maybe" at best.. we have no plans to replace this building in the near future.

[@seekerbee4494]

@@Samcraftcom Thank you for your explanation. As I've been watching your channel, you approach your projects thoughtfully and me being completely ignorant of such matters, I appreciate your input.

[@GeorgeReyna-y7q]

Awesome video Sam, my son & I really liked it. We don't have a dog right now but once we move to the outskirts of the DFW area we want to look for one and build him/her a dog house with all of the look of an actual house like a miniature of your workshop with a rafter roof for cats to sleep in there with the pooch (our dogs & cats always live together). Sam, I have a QUESTION FOR YOU: at minute mark 14:05 in your video that cute little tune, my Shazam couldn't find anything on it. I found info on DuDa by Ian Post but not this other tune, anything you know on it would be appreciated. Thank you for the video, it was as entertaining as it was informative.

[@EWB66]

How long is the overhang for the eaves? I wish that I could have seen how the ridge beam connected once you put the rafter in.

[@vbyler3119]

I'd advise putting a vapor barrier, like thin foil insulation or house wrap, under your roof material

[@TheGrayMatters]

I really enjoy your videos and work ethic. Nice work. But on your gable ends are you not having any soffit or overhang at all? It will really help to lower your possibilities of getting weather inside your building. Keep up the good work buddy!

[@RedBeardedBuilder]

He may be doing ladder style overhangs. ???

[@TheGrayMatters]

@@RedBeardedBuilder Agree, I would imagine that he would, but without having your ridge extended to support the width of your overhang it will lose a lot of rigidity/support. I suppose that he could use corbels. It just would have been easier to extend the ridge beam. Anyhoo… :D

[@RedBeardedBuilder]

@@TheGrayMatters some guys on KZbin always use what I call ladder style overhangs. I prefer just extending the ridge beam and doing my overhang that way but either way gets the job done!

[@TheGrayMatters]

@@RedBeardedBuilder that’s what we called them too. Built on the ground and set in place, or stick framed. Makes quick work of an overhang.

[@Samcraftcom]

Actually, I'm not going to do any overhangs on the gable ends.... which is VERY non-conventional on stick built workshops. Probably sacrilege, but I'm keeping this build simple and budget minded. I'll try to come up with a better reason or explanation when that video comes. :)

[@josh2711]

The birds mouth needs to start as it sits on the wall not before. You reduced the height of the rafter height and created a weak point. Effectively turning a 2x6 into a 2x4.

[@johnjacobs4207]

I just watched a video where the weight from the roof will push the walls apart. Does that ridge board prevent that?

[@Samcraftcom]

That is why you need rafter ties or collar ties with roof framing -- the horizontal boards that connect rafters forming a triangle shape.

[@terry1779]

What size bords do you use for rafters

[@jr6281]

Can you explain how you calculated the total height of your ridge beam?

[@dolinick]

i love this. if i had a job or moar money i would build this for my shop. God Bless You and your Family. Amen.

[@michellespittle9546]

Are you using 2x6 for the rafyer?

[@Samcraftcom]

Yes

[@sammyjimsmith6100]

The advantage of diy trusses is the spce available above

[@helmanfrow]

No hurricane ties on those rafters?

[@helmanfrow]

Okay, I was premature. I've now seen the video where you install them.

[@G_Rapids]

Question - When you were finding the center point at 4:05, should you account for the siding? I plan to build a 10x10 shed, but if the exterior has 1/2" plywood, wouldn't i take the centerpoint from a now 10' 1" full width?

[@Samcraftcom]

It wouldn't matter since the siding is added equally to the outside of the framing on both sides. :)

[@G_Rapids]

Thanks sir!@@Samcraftcom

[@harvmac69]

Sam, I am building a shop that is 15' long by 20' wide, the gable will be on the 20' side. In your opinion, can I do rafters like these or do I need to spend the extra money on actual trusses?

[@Samcraftcom]

A 20 foot span would be beyond my skills I think... At that point I believe you may come out ahead in cost to buy the engineered trusses? If nothing else, I would personally feel better knowing the large span above my head is 100% good to go. :) Either way, congrats on your shop build!!! I still have yet to put the metal roofing on mine. It's been covered in the synthetic underlayment for nearly 6 months now. It's a project I've put off over and over. I need to just get it done!

[@RainbowAych]

He mentioned the crown in the board. I wonder what that was for?

[@bretluyet1896]

the only question i had was why there wasn't overhang at the ends,dont you need that for water run off from the edges of whole roof or is that ok as long as you overhang shingles at edges to run water back in to run long ways off roof, hope i worded that all right

[@sunhawk61]

Hello Sam, great series on the shop. Don't know why I never noticed this in all your videos until now, but I have a question about one of your signs. Behind you in the video, on the wall, you have a sign that says "CAUTION MAN WITH POWER TOOL", with a drill graphic. Is that a free or copyrighted image? I would like to put one on my shop wall if its not copyrighted.

[@Samcraftcom]

I honestly don't know... we found it beside a dumpster at our local trash collection facility and it came home with me! :) There are no registered or trademark icons on it -- and nothing on the back.

[@CCRobertsCarpentry]

You need angle braces on both side walls to keep them plumb until you sheet it .😊😊😊

[@awlthatwoodcrafts8911]

Just curious, no hurricane straps? Being in TN, the likelihood of a high wind event, either in the form of a tornado or decaying hurricane, is pretty good. Nothing is going to be 100% but I'd hate to see all of my hard work get destroyed by a 40 mph wind gust when I could have made it withstand say, a 60 or 80 mph gust. From the beginning, I've wondered if the whole thing could be blown over since it's not attached to the concrete blocks. It's great for portability but that's only for when you want to move it, not mother nature. With all that said, I admire your gumption and I look forward to the next video, and the next, and the next...

[@Samcraftcom]

Don't worry.. straps will be added very soon. I'm trying to get the shell dry to keep rain off the plywood. I've got to frame up the door and windows too. It'll be done up right. :)

[@pkfan5112]

High wind may blow the shop away, I build mine on a concrete slab and builded tresses on the slab, it was a lot easier.

[@davidbrousseau4591]

Really looks good Sam. Are you sure you're going to have enough room compared to your last shop or is it around the same square footage? You did get a lot of new toys recently.

[@Samcraftcom]

It's fairly close in square footage of my current workshop (256 vs. 240). I do think this shop, especially the layout in my head, will work better for me. I'll also let you (and whoever else reads your comment) in on a secret that will come about in the future... I am NOT bringing my table saw to this new shop. I am selling it and not planning to have a table saw in this workshop. :)

[@davidbrousseau4591]

@@Samcraftcom hey Sam thanks for the response. That should help out quite a bit removing the table saw I know mine takes up quite a bit of room. Can't wait to see the complete project. Thanks David

[@iwantosavemoney]

Man brother I wish I was there to help ya