Noam Chomsky - Hatred Against Muslims and Arabs

Chomsky on antisemitism and today's Islamophobia and anti-Arabism.

[@mahirrahman7]

Anti-Semitism shouldn't just be limited to Jews, because by definition it applies to arabs as well, since arabs are also semites

[@guirongo]

Beautifully spoken. You are my favorite contemporary philosopher, Mr. Chomsky. Hopefully we'll meet someday and get to discuss some issues! Great day!

[@RahellOmer]

I hope you meet him one day.

[@levand3673]

Why do you want to talk to him for???

[@rafflesxyz4800]

@@levand3673 / Why wouldn't you??

[@levand3673]

@@rafflesxyz4800 because he is a fabricator and liar. He'd probably bore me to death with his slow rate of talking. I'd fall asleep!😅😅😅🤣

[@akromiskandarov9079]

Have you met yet?

[@renesimard1049]

What an educated person that man is: intellectual, non-judgemental, and principled. He gives pertaining information from different views or perceptions of all people involved. I learn so much.

[@unscient]

Yes, non-judgemental! Very much so.

[@michaelsmith8665]

@@unscient Where judgement is called for, he judges harshly - and well.

[@unscient]

@@michaelsmith8665 I agree. It's constructive judgement what he does-- not in faultfinding way!

[@stevei-cj4sc]

Noam is wrong when he says no one is openly saying racist things. I walk my dog in parks and I hear people talking openly about their hate for muslims. No one says anything about it. 1 day I said I cant agree with that and most of the regulars dont talk to me now.

[@RaimonTarou]

you have a good heart my friend, dont let the peoples's hate corrupt you

[@Yuri-hb9wo]

So many discriminations against Muslim on youtube......the comments under those videos are mad. But this "political correctness" thing is silly, it doesn't mean much except it represses our confusions and thinking process. (Well, look at the state of America & the rest of the world in 2020, now I understand better why some people think that political correctness is necessary. I don't believe that Nazis and evidently racist bigots should be given platform to spread their hideous beliefs to ordinary people, nor do I think they really value 'freedom of speech' that much.)

[@Yuri-hb9wo]

But still, we need to be rational and respect others. I think the hatred against Muslim is based on our lack of connection and lack of understanding with Muslim culture and their people. We need some real communication. Mutually.

[@Yuri-hb9wo]

Harry Hhhhjtfhn I don't think it has a lot to do with the religious belief, though. I know they have honor killing in Pakistan and I don't know much about suicide bombing, but it looks like most of the terror acts and those abhorrent traditional practices take place in very poor countries. These countries are too isolated from outside world, people in these countries are not offered with good education.

[@deandalton8482]

this interview is about 15 years old. The situation has worsened a lot since then

[@IFStravinsky]

"When they came out of that Jesuit school, they were frightening creatures." I grew up in RC schools, and I know exactly what he means.

[@mustafabinsober1248]

Chomsky has PTSD from growing up around Irish Catholics

[@Bridg2Peace]

I'm glad you mentioned the anti-semitism of Irish Catholics. I'm Irish and was reared Catholic in an all Catholic neighborhood. We were anti Protestant. I've been shocked overt my lifetime to see the extreme bigotry of the Irish. We were also discriminated against. When my ancestors arrived in the U.S., we were a race, the Irish Race. Question: Why are we so bigoted? I think of the Southies of Boston, the only group to pull black children out of buses when anti segregation laws were in effect. I don't understand. I'm always baffled when oppressed people treat oppressed people viciously. I'm reminded of Yates' observation regarding revolution. it sadly ends, "the beggar on horseback lashes the beggar on foot.: Today Jewish people in this nation are dismissive and at times disdainful of black people. Its all shocking to me. (Contrary to some statistics, those abused in childhood are more compassionate parents than those not abused. Clearly this does not apply to bigotry.)

[@davelydon1982]

Love from Rep Ireland 🇮🇪

[@bestgun9994]

Contrary to statistics??? What? Statistics are literally the truth

[@eddieobrien1411]

Interesting observation my friend. This phenomenon can be seen everywhere because in human psychology people who are abused can often become the abuser later on. The classic example of this can be seen in Israel;a country founded for an ethnic group which has faced abuse for centuries. You’d think therefore they would be sensitive towards other groups experiencing abuse. But it appears the exact opposite is happening and Israel has no problem abusing/oppressing Palestinians,and operating a de facto apartheid state.Did you know that Palestinians are prevented from fishing off the shores of the Gaza Strip, they have to go fishing six miles from the coast,which of course is economically impossible. If they are caught inside this limit they can be legally shot dead!!!

[@muhamedfaour3710]

God bless you my Jewish friend and father.

[@muser7935]

@Sto Mnjul jews live with us arabs thousands of years, even if we hate each other now .. but we will not forget the shit you. have been throwing on all of us for centuries

[@deerazz5121]

@Who Cares? um what.

[@letssuperfuntime]

@Who Cares? Word of advice, it's not very smart to say there's no example of something. Anything has an example or two, so now you can either provide proof by interpreting the entire tradition+ Qur'an (using generally accepted methods, do you happen to be an expert in fus' ha Arabic?) In painstaking detail. Or you can just hope that nobody responds to you with a single example of that which you deny (btw, you should also be specific with your claims, they are very nebulous), and consequently make you look like an hour ignorant fool. Which will it be?

[@lllllMlllll]

@Who Cares? "Allah does not forbid that you be kind and just to those who did not fight against you on account of religion, nor drove you out of your homes. Surely Allah loves those who are equitable." Sura: Mumtahanah Verse: 8 (Quraan Translation)

[@ashervijayyampolsky7759]

What's the larger video that this is from?

[@mrtuber3491]

When they climb the ladder outa hell they make sure they pull it away so no one else can escape.

[@Mohamed-bm6yk]

he is the definition of an intellectual

[@dirtymikentheboys5817]

what is it with us(eu, and usa) and constant conflict with faces/countries? like wtf?

[@ridvanyavuz5030]

Very interesting dilemma here is that even though anti-Arab racism comfortably happening, after all these things Islam is the most fastest growing religion. 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@dennishickey7194]

Growing up Irish Catholic( Pope Urbanus,"The Irish? They're fanatics!") in the '50's I can attest to the anti-Semitism against Jews and Arabs that persists. Bigotry against Jews is somewhat abated and politically incorrect. Anti-Arab is not only tolerated but a mark of a true patriot in some quarters. In ethnically diverse Rhode Island there is still a strong tribalism. Too many feel they can never fully live the American dream as accepted as any, much less loved. Elsewhere this cherished champion of our freedoms has warned us of present peril and future danger. We must decide in our own individual hearts what we love. Only then do we know what we will risk. I've made that choice. Have you? It is shocking to discover ones own individual power in the exercise of it. Thrilling in deed. Together? Together we change the world.

[@annastone5624]

It seems to me ‘racism’ is more about resources and territory and holding on to them, than anything else. It would be interesting to examine the same phenomenon ‘within’ these on the surface cohesive groups. The microcosm of the macrocosm. Within Catholicism the amount of money your family had, more or less dictated which order you could join. I think it’s more useful to look at power and money to understand the how’s and why’s.

[@newtonstheology8765]

@2:37 you are wrong. Look at the statistics in middle east.

[@nobodyanon7893]

❤️🇵🇹❤️

[@DamnedBotted]

no

[@joshbobst1629]

Are there many German Catholics? This would be a novel idea for me.

[@Rabolisk]

Umm. Yes. Most of the south of Germany is Catholic.

[@DaveLeoni]

If you have listened to him more than once, you know that Many of his narratives call out Jewish occupations.

[@hans-joachimbierwirth4727]

Not so much islamic ones.

[@windubitably]

Can’t hear

[@serpent2677]

Its funny hearing this coming from a jew.

[@operator9858]

ya but this is just another example between how if you are against israel you arent necessarily anti semite or anti jew. something many folks seem to have difficulty understanding these days (dont mean you, just lotsa people in general).

[@jimsourdif2374]

There is perhaps nothing more Orwellian then telling people that having a bias against a group of people based on their belief system is somehow wrong. Having a bias against Muslims is neither racist nor is it immoral.

[@youwaisef]

I don't understand what you mean by Orwellian in this context. Care to clarify what you meant?

[@jimsourdif2374]

@@youwaisef A significant form Orwellianism is the manipulation of language, in this case the expansion and conflating of racism which on a moral level only carries weight when it is argued that an individual should not be held accountable for the sins of groups they are a part of based on immutable characteristics. There is no moral basis for not holding individuals accountable for groups they are a part of by choice, and there is no moral basis for defending groups as a whole from criticism. For example, there is no moral basis for not a Muslim to account for the actions of groups they are associated with based on their shared faith. Holding a Muslim to account for "Muslims" is rationally unreasonable, but holding an individual Muslim to account for a particular group of Muslims that perform behaviors in accordance with their shared beliefs is perfectly reasonable. Halal slaughter for example is a brutal and barbaric method of killing an animal. It is perfectly reasonable to criticize an individual Muslim for the behavior of Halal slaughter, unless they specifically as an individual renounce the behavior. This method of social and language manipulation has been used continuously to defend communities from ethnocentric criticisms for 70 years, it has caused untold levels of destruction by encouraging the formation of these ethnocentric biases as a method of group advancement by shielding them from legitimate criticism.

[@youwaisef]

@@jimsourdif2374 I agree that people from a group who share the same beliefs that people from outside the might find wrong can be criticised without being prejudiced. The example you gave of animal slaughter is good. However, I think criticism should always be have a clear focus on the ideas and beliefs themselves in order to avoid attacking the person of the individual who holds those beliefs. The best way to do that is to literally ask each individual what they believe so as to avoid obligating them with something false. I also recognize that this is highly impractical when trying to assess whether the person in front of me holds bad beliefs or not. Believe you me I don't like the force of nature that is Islam's fundamentalism and political side neither. I think each person who holds irrational beliefs ought to be criticized and Muslim should get the same treatment as Christians, Jews, Hindus... etc, but nothing more though. Anything wrong with what I said? Is my position false in some way?

[@jimsourdif2374]

@@youwaisef Well, I think there is a distinction between hatred and prejudice. Hatred is a pointless, it is an emotional crutch for those that don't have the self control to act on their evaluations of the world without it. Hatred simply allows the meek to act out in ways they could not when in control of their actions. I don't think in general that any moral justification exists for acting against a group which is acting within the bounds of the law other then the exercise of the basic right of association. So to extend on the existing example, acting against an individual Muslim based on the practice of Halal slaughter would necessarily justify an action against all Muslims. Perhaps to some the degree of moral offense would warrant such an action, but obviously that would be a rather extreme option. But if one were to form a community based to some extent around the practice of vegetarianism, or veganism, or some pseudo religious nature worship then excluding Muslims from taking part based on the on this tradition may be reasonable and would certainly be within their moral right. It is largely the fundamental abridgment of the right of free association which is in no small part the right to exclude that has caused so much chaos in western societies over the last 70 years. The popularity of the idea of radical inclusionism stems solely from the parasitic economic class who require it to function. Normally humans form small collective groups, and their attachment is based on shared values, when we can't exclude those with different beliefs then we can't support our communities without making ourselves vulnerable to the parasites. I don't hate Muslims, or anyone for that matter. But if someone has beliefs that form a community that is fundamentally antithetical to my beliefs, why would I want to share a community with them? Under such a circumstance, by definition, to whatever extent I would be willing to pool my resources with my community becomes a degree to which I am funding my ideological opponent.

[@perspride]

@@jimsourdif2374 Well this is quite literally the textbook definition of bigotry. Correct me if I'm mischaracterizing your argument: you support denouncing Muslims and denying them ability, on the basis of their religion, to live near you. From this logic we could argue that medieval Europe exiling Jews or the Manifest Destiny pushing natives more westward were completely moral. Thankfully we have equal opportunity legislation in Western countries, because where does your line stop? Is it exclusive to Muslims, or shall we deport the LGBT people, Republicans, etc. for having views we consider to be incorrect? Where does this arbitrary standard end? If you believe Islam is false, then try to convince Muslims of that fact in the public arena of debate. Otherwise your policy of scrutinizing "good" and "bad" ideologies having certain rights is the only Orwellian policy in sight.

[@kellykitkat40]

Islam is wrong. So is Catholicism and Mormonism. And the Judaism which says, steal land, rob others of human dignity, take gentiles as slaves, and keep walking after the flesh : see, judges 19:25, kjv. In a sense, judaism has been from the beginning - and since before and after the flood of Noah, it has been a "weeding out" process. Who keeps his word, desires to raise up a child to be near Him too. But they who keep not His Word, what inheritance do they have to leave to their children? What blessing ? "Here kid, a copy of, How to influence people". The rabbi-priest is the surrogate father in a sense - the one who perchance brings another to His Word. But now bible publishing... well, forgeries abound. How many speak, read, and write, "Shakespearese" well?

[@serpent2677]

The source of Islam and christianity is what's wrong