Noam Chomsky on Google and Facebook

In this clip from his 2019 interview on PRIMO NUTMEG #169, legendary academic and "Manufacturing Consent" author Noam Chomsky discusses what he terms "surveillance capitalism." Chomsky outlines the diverse threats posed by data collection and election ad targeting coming from companies like Google, Facebook and Amazon.
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[@eclecticism1019]

A 91 years old academic who has such a clear analytic mind. Yet adults who are at the climax of their health are so dumb. Hail Chomsky!

[@NICKTA78]

Noam chomsky is a genius, with an extremely high iq, most people barely have the iqs to be a firefighter, or a plove officer(I belive its around 110),what do you expect? Most people are dumb, and thier future is a dead end 9-5 job.

[@JMLatvala92]

@@NICKTA78 IQ probably has very little to do with Noam's brilliance, and I believe he would agree with that. It's rather his awareness that we as humans are biased, and he did a lot not to be by reading for his whole life, and the second, probably more important is his brilliance at judgement. I. Kant wrote, that "judgement is a peculiar talent that can only be practiced and cannot be taught" and that "no school can make up for it's lacking". Aristotle told us that Judgement (phronesis) is the single most important faculty of the mind when you are living amongst people. This will probably only make sense to you if you can distinguish between thinking and judgement (for most people, thinking is a more general term, but if you read history, you might see that not long ago people used the word differently - from a time perspective, thinking deals with what is, and judgement concerns matters of the past), or even better for this particular case, between Judgement and rational thinking - the latter is measured by IQ tests and has very little to do with either thinking or judgement. And this is the reason why you have people with very high IQ and who are good at math or other natural sciences, but know very little about politics or history.

[@kamilien1]

i usually agree with him, not always. Got to think on your own two feet, always.

[@cheesedanishable]

Too busy believing the lies on their phones, clearly

[@DjBlFc81]

@@kamilien1 You know what, I agree with that. I love Noam and own several of his books that I gladly paid for and enjoyed reading. I also agree with a lot of what he says. On this video however I believe he has contradicted himself; There is a famous quote attributed to him, also a favorite of mine... " If we do not believe in freedom of expression for those we despise, we do not believe in it at all". With that in mind and remembering his middle comment about FB targeting advertising for the "neo-fascist" party - personally I cannot see the issue. That is how Facebook works. They do the same for the other parties that have paid for adverts, so why does he disagree with that one political party being afforded the same treatment? Especially as he conceeded that state censorship and surveillance is a worry at the beginning of the video.

[@BRuane-pw6xq]

If you do not pay for the product, like Facebook, you are the product.

[@MOPCLinguistica]

Exactly. Just like "free" government healthcare.

[@Newtube_Channel]

More like, "you don't need to pay for it because you've already paid"

[@Newtube_Channel]

@@MOPCLinguistica With healthcare you get something in return, such as health care. Social media OTOH is an optional accessory.

[@samstrongbear4285]

We the taxpayers financed the R&D (via D.A.R.P.A. / CIA) for the Google, Facebook, et all. Now we pay again with our privacy and loss of any sense of democracy.. our Republic is now a corporatist / fascist oligarchy.

[@baha2005555555]

I think if you pay or not. you are the product. The only difference is when you pay you don't see the ads, but that doesn't mean the ad companies don't get your data.

[@kathiebishop1]

This corporate control is creepy!!

[@user-DongJ]

@@jeffreywilson9913 - So did Huxley’s book predict anything else? Could Facebook, Ford, IBM, Intel, Amazon, NSA, ASME, McDonald, Pizzahut, Starbucks, etc. slip/build micro bugs, cameras, poisons, bombs, weapons, etc. into phones, laptops, parcels, food, drinks, burgers, fries, toys, shoes, bags, radios, TVs, ovens, cars, chairs, tables, plates, doors, windows, lamps, switches, fridges, aircons, water tap, etc. to spy-burn-blind-maim-“retire” those people they “classify” as rebels, terrorists, traitors, dissidents, criminals, etc? Instant justice?

[@user-DongJ]

@@jeffreywilson9913 - What's the point of wasting/risking so much time/money on camps? A mini bomb/weapon is so much more effective no? But u just think they are going to only put/use mini cameras only? Sounds like Huxley missed out on mentioning miniaturized bombs/weapons.

[@user-DongJ]

@@fritzsmith3296 - Maybe he/she meant a dog-eat-dog world/society.

[@user-DongJ]

@@jeffreywilson9913 - I'm merely extending the “power” from monitoring to assassination. If a totalitarian government can do mass monitoring/surveillance then what's stopping them from mass maiming/assassination? Or u somehow think that a totalitarian state will simply stop at mass surveillance but never upgrade to mass assassination? Does your logic only extends for < 1000/2000 years? China is a > 4000 years old civilization. Totalitarianism is nothing too new to them. If they seriously want to control/destroy freedom, there's little to stop them from turning every product into a mini camera+bomb (which are a lot more cheaper/faster at getting rid of dissidents, terrorists, traitors, fraudsters, murderers, rapists, maniacs, etc. than slow/expensive camps). So China wish to monitor & grade every citizen (+ visitors?) & if they do badly, they get send off for re-training/education schools. If the rules & schools is doing what's it is suppose to do & nothing more, this should/may be better than to wait till the person do something terrible (e.g. scam, drugs, theft, rape, murder) & then catch & lock him/her in a prison.

[@user-DongJ]

@@jeffreywilson9913 - Looks like u should take a break if u can't handle facts/stress. Jogging or swimming helps. Or u can try going to a spa. Have a nice day.

[@GivathBrenner]

Thanks Professor Chomsky for making the time to do the research and share with the public your thoughts. Mr. Phillips Canada Retired Autoworker

[@waynebeeberger3579]

privacy is a word which the world leaders call data intell so humans can be used as a commodity

[@waynebeeberger3579]

@Jay L can you be more specific

[@MrNhojstrebor]

@Jay L There are two kinds of people in this World, those who are sons of the Great King who follow the way that lead to Truth and light of the Kingdom. And the ones that are outside the Kingdom that live in darkness, where there is no truth and every lie is the truth and the truth is a lie.

[@TomTom-xp2jb]

@@MrNhojstrebor I like what you said. The word "dominion" has always intrigued me as it has been used in the "Holy" bible ad nausium! What it means, as you've stated is the total control the Vatican exercises against everyone who believes them. Sad really. We must do better and I think with people such as yourself, Hans, we might get there!!! Thanx for your thoughtful comment.

[@MrNhojstrebor]

@@TomTom-xp2jb These situations that arise in our existence are necessary to move the ones who are chosen by the Father and creator of the universe. Through these adversities the chosen ones will be moved to seek truth, it is for our learning and growth. We are not here to change the World, we cannot change the World, it is what it is. We are instructed by the Father of creation to come out from the World. When we find Truth, we also discover His Kingdom. We are given free will by our creator, the power to choose our own destiny, we are instructed to chose wisely. What is truth you may ask, and I will quote; "I am the way the Truth and the light." (I am is Yah. YHVH) Yahshua means I am Salvation. I do not speak of religion, in religion is deception. We do not need Religion to find Truth or the Kingdom, the Kingdom is within us, in the heart and in the mind. "And I will give them one heart, and a new spirit I will put within them. I will remove the heart of stone from their flesh and give them a heart of flesh," Ezekiel 11:19 "This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Father, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;" Hebrews 10:16. Thomas the apostle of Yahshua wrote in his letters showing us the nature of the Kingdom, and he wrote; Yahshua said, "If those who lead you say to you, 'See, the kingdom is in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you. If they say to you, 'It is in the sea,' then the fish will precede you. Rather, the kingdom is inside of you, and it is outside of you. When you come to know yourselves, then you will become known, and you will realize that it is you who are the sons of the living father. But if you will not know yourselves, you dwell in poverty and it is you who are that poverty." "Let him who seeks continue seeking until he finds. When he finds, he will become troubled. When he becomes troubled, he will be astonished, and he will rule over the All."

[@1LaOriental]

Hans Ruperts What if you don't believe in god as a "He"?

[@PeterNiclasKelloggneono]

Noam's brilliance continues to amaze me time and again. We had better be endlessly grateful to have a true thinker of his caliber among us.

[@jaytroll188]

noam is one of the few people i trust when talking about US politics

[@baronvonlimbourgh1716]

He knows what is going on.

[@garyweglarz]

"a population that internalizes social controls - just obeys them" - Amen. We have become willing participants in the demise of our own freedoms of thought and speech. What could go wrong?

[@72marshflower15]

garyweglarz .....ideas and concepts exist regardless if we lend them voice... they bear their dimension, and ultimately own ecosystems... corporations call some of these “creatures”... ...incidentally, we’re currently facing a thought construct bent on ending all life... It’s a famous one known as “the beast”...

[@MrNhojstrebor]

garyweglarz Well said!

[@brettb9194]

totally agree Gary... same sex marriage ought to be repealed

[@72marshflower15]

Brett B ...ought to be repealed only for the sake of separation of church and state... gay marriages were only allowed to keep religion in the courthouse. If the courts issued civil unions, the churches would just grow invalid with changing times...

[@noitall13]

Agree with Noam or not, he brings a lot to the party.

[@wind3]

which party?

[@lucaslolz]

@@wind3 He brings a lot of food for thought

[@Frankincensedjb123]

Are you talking balloons or edibles?

[@KurtGodel432]

BEEN DEER because the regime...

[@noitall13]

@@wind3 Don't worry 'bout it, obviously it's over your head.

[@jamesbra4410]

It will be beyond Orwellian. The level of care that these governments and corporations have for common people is analogous to the level of care that common people have for ants.

[@jeffreywilson9913]

Read:A.Huxley's: Brave New World Revisited,and he predicted this and much more.

[@calebmatthews2026]

Funny how quickly some are to simply concede to all of this worst case scenario Orwell prophesy and never once mention the alternative. The very fact that we as civilians just fold our arms and give up is EXACTLY the problem and reason why it is happening. it's called the 1% bc it's ONE PERCENT of the population. That means 99% of us could unite and overthrow, undermine, and/or eliminate the ruling class at any time. We simply choose not to... We choose to bend over. Only ourselves to blame for being cowards.

[@d4don]

i'm watching this on youtube (GOOGLE) right now

[@jessedyer469]

Thats ok, the mistake came when you gave an input to the system.

[@mklizzar]

Good job, they removed all 9/11 documentaries and videos that imply illuminati is active though. They won already.

[@drhollingworth5548]

D4Don lmfao

[@kalokaloqnov2354]

So... clean Your room! Peterson style!

[@RiversBliss]

@@mklizzar They removed most things on YT as well.

[@np4653]

I've seen the videos about those chip parties, it's pretty disturbing fact that people are actually happy because they've got chipped

[@ADEehrh]

The lemming attitude of todays people creeps me out!! Their attitude towards me is; what's wrong with you?!

[@jamesbra4410]

yeah it's scary that people can be so easily swindled into being mutilated and dehumanized and actually be overjoyed. These companies have enough data to prove the equations correct, they analyze human nature and exploit it.

[@np4653]

@@ADEehrh UPDATE: I mentioned this to my dad and he unironically told me that chipping people is a great idea and that states should use it instead of ID cards. When I asked him why is that a good idea, he told way for authorities to keep track of criminals and genera population wrongdoings. But when I told him that such measures are the attack on privacy and that they could easily be used against the population, he said if you're are an honest good citizen, you don't have to be afraid of anything. Honestly, I was shocked.

[@Jamez_Predictedit]

@np 1993 ... Well, your dad has a good point. I mean, if you're doing what is "right" in your government's eyes, then what do you have to worry about? Until what you believe is right is not the way the government sees it.

[@Jamez_Predictedit]

Like...what if it were a crime to pray in your country...

[@ericsalles1424]

The author Jack London predicted all of this in a little known book I encourage everyone to read entitled THE IRON HEEL". (written decades before Orwell's 1984)

[@aboxintheblack9530]

Eric Salles Feed’s a good book too.

[@GoddessLuna9]

Will do. Thank you

[@hrahmani5738]

thank you! will do!

[@Valdemarion]

Exactly. Mr London started the whole dystopian thing. At least in the "modern" literature: Orwell - "1984" - Published in 1949. Huxley - "Brave New World" - Published in 1932. Zamyatin - "We" - Written in 1920. Published in 1924. in USA London - "The Iron Heel" - Published in 1908.

[@OKnotOK09]

Good anti-capitalist, pro-socialist book.

[@kathiebishop1]

Quit Facebook!! My whole family did and we’re happier for it!

[@troyturton8197]

Unfortunately with Main Stream Media virtually blacking out candidates like Bernie & Tulsi? Social Media is the only place left for now. to get either of them attention & votes. USE a VPN to block out your IP Addy, even keeps you internet service provider from seeing what you're doing!

[@gadyariv2456]

it's not always possible to quit Facebook, as a freelance graphic designer I got the majority of clients from Facebook. In this day and age, social media isn't just recreational, it is vital public space, that many people livelihoods in a multitude of professions depend on. that's why it is vital we defend people right for privacy on social media platforms. p.s you comment on youtube vids, so you have a google account, they are selling your info as much as Facebook does.

[@BRuane-pw6xq]

I also dropped Facebook. A malevolent product that appeared innocuous enough. Government must regulate These Platforms with severe fines .

[@RKZX2]

i like FB. i don't use it often. i only have 30 friends on it. maybe i post something 5 or 6 times a month. i don't have Twitter though. don't see the appeal. plus it's toxic as hell.

[@grandkidrazor]

Why? I spread the truth on FB. I have more than a hundred million following me on FB, including the US military and other country's military. I also have this congress following. Israel and Syria following. I have all the countries following.

[@arkdark5554]

Hele is a true intellectual. And...every country must have a dozen of this man.

[@peterfox6159]

"Brave new world" in 2019. What insanity this is!

[@peterfox6159]

@Cathal Ó Braonáin Powerhungry rich people and money grubbing greed bastards like big CEO's do not have the "democratic process" in mind, when they bribe their way through the American congress ;) When the money-elites essentially "buy" their way into everything and subvert the laws in every country by bribing the politicians and essentially telling them: "I don't like your laws. If I shall do business here ... YOU NEED TO REWRITE THEM ... until "I" like them". They DESTROY thousands of years of cultural evolution and revolution - ALL with the POWER of the monetary system alone. Their money buys them EVERYTHING. >>> The democratic systems in each country are not at fault, here. It is these super corrupt human beings at the top of the foodchain!

[@jeffreywilson9913]

Read:Brave New World Revisited,much more precise on this.

[@MrRourk]

That's why I use Partiko

[@lucalone]

it is not democracy. it it plutocracy.

[@brettb9194]

@@lucalone and plutocracy is better than totalitarianism: the end of Noam Chomsky's philosophical cud-chewing. Noam and his sainted Left cannot abide democracy - once give them a majority and they would outlaw everything else because (listen to him, listen to the tone as well as the content) he believes he has the One True Way. This is the central flaw in socialism as an ideology rather than a tool - it can't believe it's not right and turns on anyone who questions it with paranoia and the police state. We will keep Google and Facebook in line with the Rule of Law not socialism. Democracy also is merely a tool to rid ourselves of inept and immoral governments without bloodshed: as far as consensus there is none. None - that's another problem with socialism, it revolves around the constructed, imposed "consensus" that ultimately demands coercion, suppression and repression. Your greatest fear is not Google and Facebook but Google and Facebook with Noam in charge: that would be Hell.

[@user-vf8ti4dq3d]

when hes gone, its up to us.

[@heatvisuals]

you got my subscribe with the outro sequence

[@PrimoRadical]

Thanks!

[@giarcnella66]

As soon as Apple allowed you to access your device using your fingerprint I knew things were heading in the wrong direction.

[@NazTheGreat]

A little late there buddy, but better late then never!

[@randynewton832]

It's not just google and FB, but also Twitter, KZbin, every government web site you visit, your credit card data, etc etc etc

[@prometheus3498]

I put Old Chomsky at 1.5 speed which makes him a lot more bearable

[@agdgdgwngo]

"Amazon's horrible workhouse...., uhh warehouses"

[@keybuckley]

Bertrand Russell in the background without a pipe in his north?

[@kabatake]

Surveillance capitalism...That's the best coinage of what is currently happening. Scary.

[@jenniferblankenship4915]

What would keep someone from cutting off your hand and using it to access all your accounts?

[@pilgrim985]

I have never had a Facebook account or Twitter of Instagram or anything else and I never will! I’m sure “Big Brother” still has a collection of information about me but I’m not just going to volunteer my personal information!

[@thejokersonyou]

Other than that... How do u feel abt our short term future?

[@noitall13]

What's the rule? Believe none of what you hear and half of what you see! Did Ben Franklin first say that?

[@MarkDonaghy]

He never takes a side only give the facts

[@McBignLargeBJ64]

Noam will forever be sharp as a tack

[@pseudonimMusic]

Anybody know where the full video is from?

[@PrimoRadical]

PRIMO NUTMEG #169

[@zatoichi3134]

Noam "the chomp" the tireless sentry exposing the never ending shape shifters of this world, shalom.

[@fearghal10]

Nice that Google's KZbin algorithm directed me here...

[@BRuane-pw6xq]

Ironic indeed.

[@HeavyTOVids]

Was there not a "social credit party" in Canada around the early 00s or 10s or 20s or something?

[@elainepayne7047]

So did I steer clear of FB, twitter, Snapchat, et al. When big bucks and other forms of greed (information) are involved I ask - what are they up to?

[@williamjc7195]

need more Noam's!!

[@stevenjansen5415]

I am wondering wether, on a legal base, we could have these big data companies reimburse us for our data consumption and as a result for a part of our mobile subscription.

[@davidwuhrer6704]

How do you reimburse someone for spying on them?

[@SnarlaRae]

For Just one day on the 7th day of each month can we agree to continually google one agreed upon word to change the google algorithms??? I just wanna know can we train the algorithms from this end?

[@PrimoRadical]

What word do you suggest?

[@davidwuhrer6704]

No. Algorithms are not something you can train. AIs are something you can train. But why would searching for something change Google's behaviour? They famously tried to predict epidemics by what symptoms are searched for where, which worked for a while, but that doesn't change what results you get or what ads you are shown. That was deliberately changed by Google so you would spend more time on their site and see more ads.

[@SnarlaRae]

@@PrimoRadical Love

[@michiwonderoutdoors2282]

You're no longer a citizen, you're a human resource. Resources are to be used.

[@evidenceofabsence_]

Uncle Chomsky is getting old. I'm so happy I get to listen to what he has to say about issues affecting our generation.

[@AccordionJoe1]

Free speech forever!

[@johannesweitz8497]

The thing that I don't here is; The alternative. How do we design the way that we want to live our lives?

[@ADEehrh]

I hate that you cannot turn of the map app that tracks everywhere the phone (we) go. If you turn it off; first it warns you you'll lose options. Then after it's been off awhile it automatically turns it'self back on! ...I don't like being tracked!!

[@davidwuhrer6704]

If you have a mobile phone, you are being tracked. That's unavoidable, it's how the technology works: In order for you to receive calls, the service provider must know where your phone is so the call can be directed to it. But that is just the phone service. The manufacturer wants to track you, too. And Google, and Facebook, and thousands of other surveillance advertisers. That is not technically necessary, so they have to provide "incentives", like for example the ability to find your phone via _their_ website in case you lose it.

[@xanderjames6510]

PREACH! ~Aloha!

[@MrRourk]

Why Facebook when there is Partiko?

[@Lindenlc10]

This is not 1984, this 2019 and next year will be the year of perfect vision.

[@oddanielvives9066]

Fascinating facts this gentleman always puts out for us to know.............enlightened bless you my fine sir.

[@JubileeCreatesSomethingAmazing]

Tech is powerful and when used for profit we get what we have today. We can create our own tech company and wield the power for good.

[@abrahkadabra9501]

None of this should be surprising to anyone. Everytime you download a new app in the Android OS there's a permission notification about what you're giving up for privacy. This can access everything from your camera, photos, contacts, microphone, etc.... Android has a privacy settings section where you can turn any of this access off. Blackberrys are great for blocking access of your apps to your personal information (which I use). But this is not enough to shut Google or others out of your personal information altogether. There's a KZbin channel called "The Hated One" where they go a lot deeper into protecting your information.

[@davidwuhrer6704]

The problem is that your phone is not yours, it's the manufacturer's. They control what you can do with it, which is why accessing camera and microphone is a privacy issue. If it was yours, if you had full control over it, that wouldn't be an issue. But then the terrorists would have won, or something.

[@boatman6865]

I guess just watching a clip from Noam Chomsky has categorised all of us into a certain box

[@khy7672]

Google a car you like 5 times you will see it pop up as ads in everything you search

[@billm8442]

Chomsky is still waiting for Tom's reply on MySpace

[@thenowchurch6419]

I ALWAYS learn vital information listening to Chomsky. Stay strong Noam !

[@christianjimenez1877]

Brilliant!!!

[@smallfaucet]

Never used Fakebook........lucky me?

[@cyber-commie4447]

Video criticising Google on KZbin is indication that Google is not evil...😎🤔

[@PrimoRadical]

On a channel that KZbin/Google demonetized for 10 months.

[@cyber-commie4447]

@@PrimoRadical Sorry, I didn't know that😔

[@legendarycreatormindset]

We need more views

[@seabassmorris]

None of you would have found this video if google wasn’t tracking your consumer habits on KZbin. There’s nothing evil about it, they’re just making money and you would do the same thing in their shoes.

[@PrimoRadical]

Yeah, I mean, why not be incessantly tracked in ways we don’t fully understand all day long? Who cares about GPS tracking, 24/7 video & audio recording, beacons, facial-recognition tech, etc? We’ll be able to find some wicked awesome sneakers!

[@seabassmorris]

PRIMO NUTMEG don’t use their products then:)

[@PrimoRadical]

Don’t use what products? Don’t go to stores? Don’t have an address? Google and Facebook collect data on you whether or not you use their platforms. They’re enormous, pervasive data-collecting entities that most large companies on earth are directly plugged into.

[@natnaqam]

A microchip? Our cell phones are capturing exponentially more.

[@susanfrombflo8368]

@@mistiroberts1576 Absolutely! And that last line is the best one in the comment section ;-)

[@dahliathereader2872]

Chomsky for president 👏🏻❤️🥰

[@TheOliveBranch]

Noam Chomsky crushes it again!

[@ShaneWWhite]

Thanks.

[@aboxintheblack9530]

The book Feed is centered around Surveillance Capitalism.

[@Massa-Dassin]

Noam chomsky is one of my favorite philosopher and one of my dreams is to meet them. Would you please tell me where can I meet them?thank you.

[@hrahmani5738]

MIT (by appointment)

[@PrimoRadical]

He’s not at MIT anymore. He moved to Tucson.

[@richardouvrier3078]

Thanks, Big Noam, once again. A Daniel.

[@tommydstring4707]

Use “Duck Duck Go”. We don’t need google or Facebook.

[@ifraheemtariq]

I have left F.B about 2 years ago,...

[@nahidhkurdi6740]

Once you make the mistake I did by getting sloppily with the flock, it is already too late. It is useless to try to escape afterwards.

[@markr5212]

I sure would like to see my personal algorithm.

[@baronvonlimbourgh1716]

Technology used to be fun and created hope and positivity. I used to love new technology and the stuff it enabled. They turned something beautifull into a tool of evil.

[@montecristo1845]

I’ll add This Perfect Day by Ira Levin to the list of “you should read...”

[@bouchtaab8281]

Wouldn't be interesting if everyone among the thousands of people who admire Chomsky could give at least a month of their lives to this outstanding thinker so that his life extends... What a loss it is for mankind when such a brilliant and committed mind will finally pass away :(

[@someshbaidya907]

How is Venezuela doing?

[@PrimoRadical]

... maybe watch the video you’re commenting on?

[@BELIEVE_O.O_IT]

wasn't there a book titled "propagenda" written in the 1920s before manufacturing consent?

[@davidwuhrer6704]

In the 1920s, the term "propaganda" was used by anarchists to describe ideas worth spreading, what today we would call memes. (Like "breadpilling".) It was a good thing. Then the right extremists copied it for spreading their own ideas. Because to the right, the content is replaceable. Where propaganda used to be a way to make people aware of political facts and the power of solidarity, it became synonymous with lies and disinformation.

[@vhtkry]

funy how google suggest me this video, it is like showing off her influence on me 🤝

[@traviscutler9912]

1984 is here.

[@craigbrownell1667]

chili noodle, primo nutmeg

[@MrInterestingthings]

He is humble and practical ,never self-righteous or intellectually pretentious. I must see if there are any Susan Sontag filmed lectures. I know we have tapes. Camille Paglia was manic hoot but sensible,arch and a little inconclusively reaching. Christopher Hitchens was lively, lovely and sensible but a bit harsh.

[@dominic5520]

TO QUOTE POGO, “WE HAVE MET THE ENEMY AND HE IS US”!

[@texritt2948]

As it says in the Bible: You made the deal! It really wasn't that long ago when anti-trust laws were no longer enforced.

[@brettb9194]

What Noam really doesn't like is that the working class can get any information at all and that the academic class can get information that hasn't been curated by him and his fellow apparatchiks.

[@PrimoRadical]

You don’t believe digital privacy is an issue?

[@BricksIn]

Sounds like my dad. Just giving you fear notes without solutions. Nothing we don’t already know.

[@PrimoRadical]

The solution is organizing these companies democratically so they don’t violate peoples’ natural rights.

[@garyinmarz8938]

Corps will say it's for safety, growth, job security... control is the way of the future.

[@thelegendkillersshittyduff1335]

There suppose too say that

[@garyinmarz8938]

@@thelegendkillersshittyduff1335 you're dog gone right Mr Ms person.

[@Arrbyy]

I don't know about Surveillance Capitalism but Yasha Levine's "Surveillance Valley," the title of which riffs off of Silicon Valley, is awesome. And... I just did a quick check on Shoshana Zuboff. All I can say is "Yikes!" I will not be jumping into that dark and hostile rabbit hole Noam.

[@bobjames9618]

Everybody forgot what Edward Snowden proved! 10 years ago!!!!!

[@smallfaucet]

Google sees me go to Pornhub?

[@1232bluejays]

Amazon has hideous warehouses? Really? Are the employees forced to work there ? This monitoring increases efficiency and reduces waste also as in reduces wasted travel and pollution by UPS delivery.

[@PrimoRadical]

Well, if you have bills to pay and you can’t get a job anywhere else, then yeah, you kind of are forced by necessity to work there. Mechanizing work in the name of maximizing shareholder (not worker) profit is dehumanizing.

[@adrianaproudcatholic]

Professor Brasil isn't U.S . 25 years is a vacay of 2 years.

[@EricSmith9000]

Corporations and China are very different. Choice and consent matter.

[@EricSmith9000]

False analogy = Not Uuuseful

[@EricSmith9000]

How is saying that corporations are different from nation states black and white thinking? It's certainly more nuanced than washing over the critical differences to make this US / China comparison. It sounds like you're mapping corporations onto "us" and the Chinese government onto "them", in service of being snarky on the internet. I don't know about you, but I'm neither.

[@EricSmith9000]

@Neo Sannyasin Yes. We very much have the choice to attend a corporate microchip party, volunteer our information on a private social media platform, or do none of those. The tech is voluntary. The collection is voluntary. And, how your information is used is governed by voluntary agreements. I'm not saying that it couldn't be used malevolently (though a corporation has much more to lose if such actions are discovered). Just saying that it's very different if someone has opted in, because it is rooted in free choice.

[@Floccini]

It seems impossible to me to at this point in to time to have anonymity on a computer attached to the internet and that is not matter what Governments do.

[@mmedefarge]

YT frequently deletes my comments if they are critical of the Democratic party, if I write the full name of HRC or I'm critical of our American empire. Comments can only be seen by me if I'm logged in under this name. If I log in under another YT subscriber or as a guest, the comments no longer exist.

[@cheeck6230]

"We’re talking about the fate of a whole planet. Why are people so polite? Why are they so patient? Why are they so patient? Why are they so forgiving of gangsterism and betrayal? It’s very difficult to understand. I believe that it’s because the dominator culture is increasingly more and more sophisticated in its perfection of subliminal mechanisms of control. And I don’t mean anything grandiose and paranoid, I just mean that through press releases and sound bites and the enforced idiocy of television, the drama of a dying world has been turned into a soap opera for most people. And they don’t understand that it’s their story, and they will eat it in the final act if somewhere between here and the final act they don’t stand up on their hind legs and howl. " -Terence Mckenna turn these platforms against themselves spread the word.

[@9971269912]

In India ,such Intellectuals are called Rishi ..a true Rishi Indeed of our times .

[@polidiotpatriot3966]

Welp ive stoped using google and use duckduckgo and facebook is gone youtube is replaced by WEME.

[@TheReviewSpace]

All hail KZbin & Google, our corporate bosses!

[@user-DongJ]

TheR - What about Amazon, Apple, Huawei, Facebook, Alibaba, Ford, Toyota, Samsung, Microsoft, Sony, Federal Reserve, World bank, ExxonMobile, Saudi Aramco, BHP, FBI, CIA, NSA, IMF, WHO, WFP, IFRC, CARE, CDC, UNESCO, UNSC, ISO, etc?

[@independent6271]

Serious shit indeed.

[@Samsgarden]

As far as I can tell, this trend is both inevitable and inexorable

[@whateverman3931]

♡ Bertrand Russell

[@apank21]

wat about the benefits ?!?!?

[@eddymcgrant4570]

he mentions them at 2:03 for example..

[@mikepeine3898]

I am blocked for 30days for posting unusual , on fb .

[@hexagon9895]

But can he code.