Noam Chomsky - The God That Failed Transition and Controlling the Public Mind

[@nomad9338]

This is why the mainstream media ignores him, he speaks the truth.

[@andyecheandia8375]

he speaks gibberish and is hypocritical

[@andyecheandia8375]

Not really, there is a difference between his expressing absurd ideas and truth.

[@mehdisalehani]

​@@andyecheandia8375why don't you enlighten people then?

[@mehdisalehani]

Those who spoke the truth, either got killed, jailed or ignored, it's all there to see.

[@andyecheandia8375]

@@mehdisalehani Jesus was killed speaking THE TRUTH as God incarnate.

[@curtisfalk7818]

I love you Noam!

[@andyecheandia8375]

You must love sticking needles in your eyes also.

[@Cooliofamily]

The idea on both the left and the right that protest is not only futile, but outlandish and ridiculous. That you shouldnt yell too loud and stir the pot. Let alone be violent. It is a perfect example of thought control. The media takes a hard line against protests. Calling those who participate a "mob" and if the tactic violence (violence on property or on people) is used, then forget about it. You will be unilaterally condemned. It is a very dangerous time when you are unable to publicly protest.

[@Cooliofamily]

@david gallagher this is the only valid form of protest

[@missyv8900]

Damn he nailed it when he emphasized the COMMONality of LenninISM and CapitalISM and the ease of indoctrinated acceptance of one as 'better' as if there's a vast difference in the two highly exploitative power structures of hierarchy and forced subordination. Now THAT is insightful, unbiased thinking.

[@andyecheandia8375]

Also asinine as one is demonstrably superior to the other. ONE ( leninsism) has a record of failure and ONE (capitalism) has a record of success.

[@alexanderfreeman]

@@andyecheandia8375 Success for whom?

[@andyecheandia8375]

@@alexanderfreeman Surely you cant be this silly? ".. The great achievements of civilization have not come from government bureaus. Einstein didn’t construct his theory under order from a bureaucrat. Henry Ford didn’t revolutionize the automobile industry that way. In the only cases in which the masses have escaped from the kind of grinding poverty you’re talking about, the only cases in recorded history, are where they have had capitalism and largely free trade. If you want to know where the masses are worse off, worst off, it’s exactly in the kinds of societies that depart from that. So that the record of history is absolutely crystal clear, that there is no alternative way so far discovered of improving the lot of the ordinary people that can hold a candle to the productive activities that are unleashed by the free-enterprise system.” Milton Friedman

[@alexanderfreeman]

@@andyecheandia8375 Those are a bunch of asinine statements from a hack whose discredited theories devastated Chile's economy. Einstein was a patent clerk who worked for the government, and his job gave him the time he needed to devise his theory. I don't see how that's a ringing endorsement for capitalism. Sure, Henry Ford's private enterprise gave us mass-produced automobiles, but he also used his wealth to destroy public transit, and his invention has helped bring us global warming, which will quite possibly wipe out the human race. I can't think of a more catastrophic failure than that. " In the only cases in which the masses have escaped from the kind of grinding poverty you’re talking about, the only cases in recorded history, are where they have had capitalism and largely free trade." That is demonstrably false. You can give that sort of argument for Stalinism. There was a very substantial economic growth in the Soviet Union. If you just look at it in terms of economic growth, it was reasonably successful. That's exactly what bothered Western leaders. The great concern among Western leaders was that the Soviet Union was presenting itself as a model for modernization within a single generation. It was the Second World until 1989. Their years of capitalist reforms then sent them right back to the Third World right where they came from, though. Furthermore, capitalism REQUIRES POVERTY to work. It requires poverty to motivate people to sell their money for very little to entity that will take most of the profit of said labor. Rich nations require a lot of poor nations top give them inexpensive goods. Rich nations give aide to poor nations, but that's so that poor nations will have enough resources to continue making rich nations money but not so much as to become competitors. People frequently flee nations that capitalist nations like the U.S. have invaded and devastated.

[@schen7913]

@@andyecheandia8375 clearly you've never thought critically about America.

[@missyv8900]

Biting educational eliquence...delicious food for the brain.

[@joshuafahy218]

The ongoing war on terror - the perfect target

[@normanbretz5903]

Noam Chomsky is the Best.

[@andyecheandia8375]

Best at what exactly as all he does is misidentify and confuse!

[@myhairgoesup]

This dudes always spitting

[@cminor99]

I love you, Noam, and your brilliance.

[@andyecheandia8375]

You probably love playing Ian traffic as well

[@waynesmathers3147]

Thank you Noam Chomsky!

[@shynickel8239]

The truth exist, the masses never bother to peer behind the vail.

[@neilb3332]

this is incredible

[@ryublueblanka]

Everyone watch Manufacturing consent and the hidden colors documentary series. Peace!

[@nambochimbanskeyold]

Brilliant clip

[@gh5972]

Good to hear, but what do we do?

[@jeannedouglas9912]

A great mind no doubt.

[@littlebigheroman]

"...more moderation in democracy to overcome (its excesses)..." Huh, reminds me of something Montesquieu said...about aristocracy.

[@greedyfirstalgorithmlast26]

At the time Lasswell wrote that entry Louisiana Governor Huey P. Long, the Wildly Successful Populist became a State Senator and Planned to Challenge Franklin D. Roosevelt, and his chances were extremely strong, he was a serious threat to Roosevelt's 'New Deal" by his famous works in Deep South Louisiana, he Conceled the 'Poll Tax" on colored and poor white voters, he gave free school books to all poor people, he gave blacks dignity, he built 3 Modern Sanitary Mental Hospitals, and greatly cursed John. D. Rockefeller's Standard Oil and Bell Telephone, and his motto? 'Every Man A King, and Every Woman a Queen." Harold Lasswell inspired[3] the definition given by the Institute for Propaganda Analysis: "Propaganda is the expression of opinions or actions carried out deliberately by individuals or groups with a view to influence the opinions or actions of other individuals or groups for predetermined ends through psychological manipulations."[4] People still try to degrade Sigmund Freud's Writings, however Freud's Works are daily used to Govern This Nation, here is how Lasswell used Uncle Eddie's Fabulious Scientific works: Lasswell utilized Sigmund Freud’s methodology. Upon studying in Vienna and Berlin with Theodor Reik, a devotee of Freud, Lasswell was able to appropriate Freud’s methods.[2] Lasswell built a laboratory in his social science office. It was here that he conducted experiments on volunteers, students, at the University of Chicago [2] Using this instrument, he was able to measure the participants’ emotional state to their spoken words.[2] Lasswell was furthermore able to use psychoanalytical interviewing and recording methods that he appropriated from his time of studying with Elton Mayo at Harvard University.[2] Lasswell was a “behavioral revolution” proponent.[2] Lasswell was credited with being the founder of the field of political psychology and was the man at which the concepts of psychology and political science intersected.[2] By utilizing psychoanalytic biographies of political leaders, he expanded the base from which potential evidence could be garnered. The benefit of this contribution is that he was able to engage in another method of research - content analysis. By being able to use preexisting data, he was in a position to show that his work was not purely positivist but also stepped into the realm of interpretivist as well - helping him to come together in studies of personality and culture in tandem with his political behavior research.

[@GPS509]

Great w Work

[@surplusking2425]

Best examples among those "judging the own interests manipulated by elites" is feminism.

[@jerryjones7293]

Opportunists surf the waves.

[@thepsycho-tropicsby-jdmits7704]

The essay by Langston Hugh's, "Salvation"... is how I came to believe that God has given us free will -as a gift. No matter how terrible life may become.

[@kennethmarshall306]

Brilliant analysis. Get to the heart of the matter in plain English.

[@TankGump96]

OMG

[@PappyMandarine]

La suite à 11:00

[@futureskeletons66669]

Tulsi Gabbard is currently making the god that failed transition.

[@GoFyouSelfGrandma]

God is not a being like the bible transcribes...... Man got that wrong. The real truth about it is that "he" or "she" is actually a combinations of TRUTHS that lead to a society that is able to support an everlasting life built through technologies developed by the hands of man, but only with God/truth in mind. Otherwise the greed of man will collapse such a system.

[@andyecheandia8375]

And your source for this "revelation" is WHAT exactly?

[@GoFyouSelfGrandma]

@@andyecheandia8375 your MIND.

[@andyecheandia8375]

@@GoFyouSelfGrandma thanks for demonstrating for us that you are just absurd

[@GoFyouSelfGrandma]

@@andyecheandia8375 what would you like to know? You think that the ones who want power are not working on technology to make you braindead at the snap of a finger? Who do you trust?

[@GoFyouSelfGrandma]

@@andyecheandia8375 also, thanks for demonstrating to US that you are ignorant.

[@solidaritytime3650]

Chomsky explaining why tankies aren't comrades- A valuable lesson if you don't want the bullet.

[@futureskeletons66669]

Both left and right are under elite control. Communism is not Socialism. Socialism is true equality with a truly democratic process and a government of non career politicians that actually services the majority and has checks/balances in place to prevent corruption. Communism is to Socialism as corrupt, crony Capitalism is to Capitalism.

[@lorenzomcnally6629]

Nothing killed more human beings in peacetime than Marxism last century. The deadliest religion in man's history. Check mosky KOMRADE Trotsky CHUMPsky is revisionist Marxist Hell.

[@alexanderfreeman]

Here's a question: If people fall for such obvious propaganda, doesn't that prove they don't know what's in their best interest?

[@jamesdickens1374]

Ya he sells democracy as good with literally no argumentation provided. It's just assumed. His fans nod and smile along, easily manipulated.

[@uij8439]

Yes, but it’s not the alienated or ignorant people’s complete fault (Read Alienated America by Timothy Carney) In short, the west lacks wisdom institutions. People are wanting the participatory element of psychologically finding within themselves and their community - salvation, an idea stripped from Christianity from the Martin Luther/Erasmus debate Check out John Vervaeke’s Meaning Crisis series here on KZbin. The Founding Fathers set up a framework of government rooted in philosophic principals- enlightenment, Greek traditions (e.g. Aristotle’s definition of politic - finding one’s potential within community, for the most balanced form of government so far, but they didn’t go so far as to set up wisdom institutions with their philosophical knowledge. They also didn’t know psychology and how metaphorical truth works within a religious setting with what we practice and then bring out into the world. Today we can move away from religious fundamentalism because of the scientific method, made relatively recently, and before the world’s religions, or the major “psychotechnologies” as John Vervaeke calls them. We can separate metaphorical truth - that which we experience and feel that can transform our behavior & literal truth (Pinker), and we can explain the theory of religion/relevance realization in religion (religions that have wisdom practices or the lack their of which don’t give us new ways of thinking psycho-existentially, which is needed to access flow and problem solving) But we can’t explain mystery. We can explain things in the having mode and transform with metaphorical truth and serious play through the being mode with (Erich Fromm) So if our western society could take on wisdom institutions - Imagine what that would mean for art, for participating in politics, economics, foreign policy, interfaith work, etc. I suspect John Vervaeke’s proposal of creating these institutions could come under some serious fire from cultural conservatives and/or the status quo elites

[@uij8439]

What I’m trying to say is, I don’t think the public should be completely aware of how everything works - from various political policies to metaphorical truth transformation in religion because you need a government to function without constant chaos. There should be the possibility of figuring information out through an open channel for those who want and at capable However, we’re also not like robots/AI where we can freeze up because of thinking of thousands of outcomes/combinations etc. We have confirmation bias. The same way we adapt to the world around us is how we become capable of self-deception. I don’t know, man. It’s tricky. I’m no expert. I think people should have more agency in their spiritual life and in politics, but in the political sphere- probably more limited because government structures (while should be critiqued and should evolve) should remain stable. Locally, I agree with the Founding Fathers that one should find their potential within community, or in a place as Timothy Carney calls, a “platoon”, bigger than self but smaller than government because alienation kills the “good life” in society for the individual and community

[@ToddWright2]

Whenever challenged Chomsky always tells the questioner(s) that he is providing facts supported by facts. Noam would be the first person to check the sources and perform your own analysis as he might be wrong. I have done this, and have read ~100 books(some popular, some academic) and other sources. I don't agree with his analysis on the expansive range of topics he has trained his intellect, but Noam seems the most accurate critic of state and corporate power I have found. As always, conduct your own surveys and see what you find. Almost everyone in human history has been wrong about everything.

[@fer5787]

It’s called marginalization. As he put it the educational system is “the indoctrination of the young”. If you don’t provide the public with a robust education, but instead teach conformity and obedience, then yea you get people who fall for propaganda.