Noam Chomsky - Tipping Points: Environmental & Political (interviewed by David Barsamian)

[@ari7610]

Noam is a gem. Refreshing to hear him in these times of magical thinking, grand delusions, and plain ignorance.

[@jessicafalstein]

thanks so much for this interview w/ Professor Chomsky.

[@annibjrkmann8464]

Our global civilization is collapsing. Love people while you can

[@TheNoblot]

hoping to meet you 😉😉🥂🥂

[@models344]

Collapsing? It always was

[@stephenwallace8782]

The David Barsamian interviews have, for me as a millennial leftwinger (29 years old) become a cornerstone of education in alternative politics. Here is Noam Chomsky, in a busy era of his life. Of course, his beloved friend, Howard Zinn comes to mind....glad to hear the name Edward Said mentioned.... Barsamian for me is like watching a mixer of some great rock band from the seventies talk about a pivotal album, like Alan Parsons talking about his involvement in the creation of Pink Floyd's Dark Side of The Moon. This was a quality interview, and the friendship is clearly deep between these two devoted iconoclasts. Thank you to Alternative Radio, and it's good to see you guys here on KZbin.

[@xenon333]

"Gang of Sadists" -- preach Chomsky, preach...

[@xenocampanoli815]

It takes me back to my original reason for changing my name to Xeno on June 30, 1991: "90% of the American Public supports our troops in the middle east." was the GHWB propaganda, supplemented with bullshit about throwing babies out of incubators, and this delusion now seems like an embedded cancer not just of mis-factualizations, but of delusional mis-expectations of what the facts are, what they will be, and how to properly deal with fact parsing in a way which completely breaks down reason.

[@leopoldoheeren1217]

Had our schools this level of wisdom being taught.....humanity might have a chance.

[@fabiengerard8142]

…might have HAD a chance. 😬

[@leopoldoheeren1217]

@@fabiengerard8142 yes, but the past is gone...the future is still in our hands.

[@SimonClaringbold]

A pleasure listening and learning from Noam. Many thanks for sharing this interview.

[@9000ck]

noam is one of the very very few genuine intellectuals. his scope is vast.

[@joeymurdazalotmore6355]

His focus is spot on as to the realities we simply don't address and cannot reconcile and as to y. He's a one of a kind and a shame he wasn't utilized in a time when his whole generation went greedy af dying flaming a planet. Noam life long was against this n 1988 1999 he saw alot of what see now. The same worse. I'm glad he still has hope

[@Madasin_Paine]

Sounds true enough and we can say this about other people in his high circles like Kissinger or McNamara. They make good professors. But. There's a reason why these people live a nice old ripe life and they serve a similar master in different ways but the psychological has definitely become more prominent in these ways. When people believe words despite having an opposite meaning the game is basically over especially if the public isn't intelligent enough to volley back and get away with it. Just add mind-altering psychedelic drugs and a galaxy of different ways to serve different addictions and see what that does to people's natural sense of self-preservation and joy and contribution. This here program is part of that programming. But it has to come to U*$ as help and news. What happens to the state of mass psychosis when heroes ideals and institutions all letting US down, too much, too long‽ I approach it like gardening in the yard. Helps to learn what really going on, but it's dirty business and can feel like a thankless job sometimes.

[@chaschristiansen]

Be careful what you wish for the people who make your food and deliver it are the ones who are overwhelmingly anti-vax so if you start down this path it's not them that are going to be removed from society since they have to deliver food it's you guys who will be cut off from everything, just something to think about.

[@francisu.5005]

He's always been involved in politics and working for their propaganda. He's an untrustworthy person

[@joeymurdazalotmore6355]

@@francisu.5005 that's absurd. He's a mountain of factual evidence ur francis. That's the ball game n all that there

[@irvingclarendon6227]

The governed can question the mandates of rulers and look to guard their civil liberties against government overreach. Disobeying the vaccine mandate may seem selfish In the light of the human toll of the pandemic but at the same time, a legitimate exercise of personal sovereignty,

[@TaxMan1776]

Yeah, all those motorcycle and cancer deaths are scary. There is nothing selfish about critical thinking and questioning. When questions are ignored and shot-down, it makes you question harder.

[@nblumer]

I'd reread your Locke and Mills with regards to personal sovereignty because even enlightenment thought allowed for boundaries for individual liberties when they infringe on others'. It is not legitimate at all to exercise selfishness at the expense of others. How do I protect my sovereignty when you're breathing deadly viruses on me in a supermarket? Sovereignty does not equal superciliousness.

[@irvingclarendon6227]

@@nblumer Personal sovereignty does entail a sense of duty and social responsibility; we need community and should help further it's wellbeing. But no one can be forcibly vaccinàted against his/her will.

[@TaxMan1776]

@@nblumer ahahahah

[@TaxMan1776]

@@nblumer Question, how did you make it this far in life? Maybe YOU need to stay home where it's "safe".

[@scania1982]

I e-mailed Chomsky regardin his beeping fire alarm. Surely someone can change his battery.

[@joeymurdazalotmore6355]

Noam chomsky is by far the most trusted voice staying consistent. It's ol hat. My god I just heard em speak in 88. 98. He's brilliant on point. N a one of a kind. Stay strong Noam

[@joeymurdazalotmore6355]

@Ranjit Tyagi no it's viagra an not aging. He's 92. He's sprite n well.

[@lepidoptera9337]

@@joeymurdazalotmore6355 He looks like death himself and he hasn't gotten any wiser, either. Neither have his devotees.

[@joeymurdazalotmore6355]

@@lepidoptera9337 so why are u here? Be more in life. Trolling is unbecoming

[@lepidoptera9337]

@@joeymurdazalotmore6355 What did I say that is not true? Or you just can't stand the truth?

[@paulwhetstone0473]

@@joeymurdazalotmore6355 Troll lives matter.

[@renzob.4501]

From the writer of necessary illusions I can't believe this Noam

[@jimaforwood743]

. The last of our great thinkers. Bless you Noam.

[@keith7976]

I have huge respect for Noam. However, at 27.00 he states Germany has 2 months annual leave for it's workers. It does not. Between 20 and 25 days per year. Although employers often give up to 30 days. Same for most of Europe and the UK.

[@yourmajesty1630]

breaks my heart a little bit when he says he doesn't talk about personal things. when you love him as much as his audience loves him it hurts when he pulls a part of himself away.

[@ari7610]

it’s understand considering the amount of hate he receives. An autobiography would be very nice though, esp since he is late in life now. . .

[@DS-tz4lk]

There is no more repugnant of a habitus (bubble) than the habitus which grants social and cultural capital to those who hoard unnecessary wealth - but it is exponentially more repugnant when it is those who are settler colonialist hoarding unnecessary “wealth” expropriated via settler colonialism and if you don’t see why those granting social and cultural capital to those hoarding unnecessary wealth expropriated through settler colonialism isn’t absolutely repugnant then what the hell is wrong with you?😬🥺😭

[@laifongleng4414]

From now on the world should start to worry about aids, human plague and other infectious diseases outbreaks.

[@carolyngarman1422]

It's just a gang of sadists pretty well describes it. 👍🏻

[@jonathonjubb6626]

He's right, you know he's right but it's too late, too fucking late! I'm sorry, I stood by and let it happen, I'm very sorry....

[@intuneorange]

Noam and Lawrence Tribe are good citizens

[@mackenziedog1872]

I've been wanting to hear him speak about the now. I'd thought he must have been of air fir some reason. I'm glad He's back. He's got access to info I haven't! And he tell it how it is.

[@willchristie2650]

Does Noam have a dog walking around off camera? I keep hearing a dog's pitter patter. I keep looking down to see if my golden retriever is walking around but he is asleep.

[@alexthompson9516]

He's Father Time.

[@harbor7329]

Watch the PBS documentary " Black Coffee".

[@jebidiahnewkedkracker1025]

Care to elaborate as to WHY you recommend this??

[@bartonpropst9929]

This is BS

[@zygmuntb]

Prof. Chomsky is a genius on on political affair, but on "covid", seems like he's a clueless...

[@spiritseeker2831]

economists? tell everyone what the federal reserve really is or your a fraud!

[@nicholasboeder1958]

And look at how that interviewer keeps her office space..another disturbed mind, clearly.

[@tsalagi78]

✊🏽

[@NuuBody]

I am so disappointed! He was my role model for years!

[@jake-pl1bn]

the wizard speaks!

[@callumbush1]

Chomsky has sold out!

[@donhawkins9742]

The transition from coal to clean energy and jobs for those workers in coal was my idea many moons ago.

[@tomtom34b]

Noam Chomsky is not well informed on this point: 26:24 In germany, employees have a state-guarenteed minimum of paid amount of days that are the equivalent of 4 weeks/year in a full-time job. If you work 5 days/week, you get 20 days, if 6 days/week, you get 24 days. Some companies voluntarily offer a few more days in their contracts. But his information that it is 2 months is factually incorrect.

[@Clusterboy]

Everything he says I thought, think, and believe, though perhaps my hated and contempt for the Democrat party is more intense. Many progressives deserve to be applauded but with little power. There is no prospect for change.

[@luperamos7307]

I thought you can send your kids to school even if they are not vaccinated. There are many reasons that would allow you not to vaccinate them and still send them to a school. And variants haven't really been emerging anymore. It was all over the news earlier this year.

[@pietrowislon7300]

Not Covid vaccinations, he's referring to Measles,TB and other vaccinations that young children have routinely had for years.

[@luperamos7307]

@@pietrowislon7300 But there are people who do not have these "mandatory" vaccines for their kids and they attend school. There are quite a few people who are against all vaccines and it must be legal to opt out somehow bc those kids do go to school. There is not 100% herd immunity among kids.

[@pietrowislon7300]

@@luperamos7307 Most jurisdictions have an immunization schedule that must be produced before the child can start attending public school, at least that happens in Canada. Some religious people, and others, opposed to vaccinations, perhaps home schooling or sending their kids to a "Charter" school, have not had their children vaccinated against Measles, TB etc and there have been outbreaks of these diseases in many places. Denial of science and "magical thinking" is putting us all at risk. Vaccines work. We don't have polio, diphtheria, smallpox, measles and other horrible diseases that used to be prevalent in the early 20th century. Now, with anti vaxxers not immunizing their kids, these diseases are reappearing.

[@luperamos7307]

@@pietrowislon7300 I know a lady at school whose kids are not vaccinated. I never liked that and was never sure why she is not mandated to get her kid vaccinated. I read that in Europe some people are not vaccinated against measles. I can only imagine that there are exemptions (religious, etc.). I never asked the school about this, but just figure that there are ways around the vaccination requirement. Personally I think it should be mandated bc you are risking other people

[@nicholasboeder1958]

It's amazing how blind he is..wow..

[@bope1469]

1.5 *C to 2.7*F does not compute

[@renzob.4501]

Chomsky started talkin about 1 wing as when being distinct from the other party then that's when I shook my head depending on the issue they are the equivalent to good cop bad cop with the same agenda

[@willchristie2650]

Only a white person could say that. Try being a racial, sexual or religious minority under GOP rule versus Democratic rule and then report back to us.

[@renzob.4501]

@@willchristie2650 wrong I'm very dark skinned

[@hikeoganessian9729]

tipping points are on our heads on not as you say 'in the air' it's here now..now it's ok to talk about it..finally...

[@donhawkins9742]

I was knot doing anything else today..

[@lynnebarnes3840]

So, Noam, do you still think voting for Biden was the best option?

[@lepidoptera9337]

Who did you vote for? The Easter Bunny?

[@lynnebarnes3840]

@@lepidoptera9337 there is only one party in the USA Republicans and weak Republicans, known as Democrats who ironically don't believe in democracy. Two cheeks of the same filthy arse, so closely aligned that you can't slip a penny between them. If voting changed anything it would be abolished. When there is a third party it might be worth voting. Did you get your $2000 check yet?

[@lepidoptera9337]

@@lynnebarnes3840 What do I need $2000 for? Unlike you I am not living day to day, which allows me to be less desperate.

[@lynnebarnes3840]

@@lepidoptera9337 I won't boast about my real estate portfolio or my income, suffice to say I'm far from desperate. You can tell a lot about a person or a country by how they treat their vulnerable.

[@lepidoptera9337]

@@lynnebarnes3840 Sorry to say, but you do sound desperate. I don't know of any country that treats their vulnerable really well. Not even the best of the European style social democracies. One can't solve social problems with money, alone. They are deeply embedded in people's brain structures.

[@irisheyes5890]

Of course he had to make it political...

[@MSchon-qf3fl]

Absolutely astonishing to hear an icon of independent thinking parroting the mainstream narrative about the pandemic. Noam of thirty years ago would be ashamed of this guy. This mainstream liberal dribble is why I stopped listening to Alternative Radio many years ago.

[@lepidoptera9337]

Well, switching to Q didn't really improve your intellect either, though.

[@MSchon-qf3fl]

Lepi Doptera what the hell is Q?

[@lepidoptera9337]

@@MSchon-qf3fl Never mind. :-)

[@MSchon-qf3fl]

Lepi Doptera if what you meant was I support QAnon, then you’re so hopelessly brainwashed by mainstream propaganda that you assume anyone who criticizes the Democratic Party and mainstream liberal ideology to be a Republican or a conservative. Typical partisan hack who doesn’t engage in actual substantive debate but instead uses ad hominem attacks to dismiss criticism or dissent from within your own ranks.

[@lepidoptera9337]

@@MSchon-qf3fl Your raging indicates that your mind certainly does not support reality.

[@Mulder-jg7ze]

The strong men that are free thinkers will decide what we do , not weak old men.

[@spiritseeker2831]

this guy is SOOOO obvious what a shill

[@renzob.4501]

I can't believe Noam bought the narrative 😔

[@fotogwaii]

noam IS the narrative

[@willchristie2650]

Noam doesn't watch or listen to your right wing propaganda networks.

[@renzob.4501]

@@willchristie2650 "yours" i don't own any networks, pretty convenient you gave it to me to fit your narrative,

[@damnedyankee946]

@@renzob.4501 I would say Noam is better informed then most of us listening here. 🤔

[@renzob.4501]

@@damnedyankee946 so by that logic joe biden is better "informed" and knows what's best for us🤔

[@trinitytwo14992]

You cant believe any of the statistics they are all manipulated. But I adore both the interviewer and speaker, sane voices in the wilderness.

[@jeremyharrison9369]

You adore them both but don’t believe what they say? Does not compute?

[@DoseofTruth]

@@jeremyharrison9369 they don't control their sources and that is not on them. Make sense?

[@trinitytwo14992]

@@jeremyharrison9369 I can have an opinion, just because I like them doesnt mean I agree with everything someone says.

[@jeremyharrison9369]

@@DoseofTruth No. I’m sure they look at wide variety of sources and build a coherent picture from a blend of these. So it is totally on them. They are totally responsible for the conclusions they reach and the evidence they present in support of them

[@jeremyharrison9369]

@@trinitytwo14992’You can’t believe any of the statistics they come out with’ is very long way from saying ‘I don’t have to agree with everything they say’. I don’t agree with everything they say but I basically believe they’re clever enough to see through most propaganda and evaluate statistics they quote - that’s what Chomsky is quite rightly renowned for and for their integrity in contrast to the Republican politicians they’re talking about

[@tsg2009]

no ones gonna tell me what to put in me welcome to malbaro country 🤧

[@willchristie2650]

Would John Wayne get a vaccine? Hell no. He would smash the doctor in the jaw and stomp away.

[@bruceness2730]

Echo's of "The Brave New World" and "1984", Orwell and Huxley saw all this coming a decade ago.... "Jesus "The Christ" didn't call them "sheep" for nothing.". You may quote me, kids...lol...!!! OR, quoting King Solomon, "There is nothing new under the sun.". Ameen, Ameen and Ameen....!!!

[@signifidelica2819]

I love Noam but vaccines aint the solution here

[@willchristie2650]

Who told you this, Fox News?

[@slambam6191]

@@willchristie2650 data indicate death from covid in the vaccinated is still substantial.

[@LCSJK]

@@slambam6191 Can you cite some here? (Hard to find.)

[@slambam6191]

@@LCSJK I've replied three times now but don't know if my messages are getting through.

[@InvestingForTomorrow24]

@@slambam6191 Obviously another left wing conspiracy

[@tedlinaf3536]

dominion!

[@jebidiahnewkedkracker1025]

Utilizing rhetoric by implying Republicans as an "insurgency" is NOT going to win debate/discussion points Mr. Chomsky, and is probably going to COST you some respect points. (I am NOT implying myself that the Republican party as a whole has a monopoly on do-gooderism/morality and "doing the right thing", but over 18 minutes into the discussion, I'm basically hearing a screed against Republicans. If you're going to go on the "objective" route, you may want to elaborate more on the "plenty more on Democrats" you alluded to sir.) But I will stick this discussion out for a little longer before or IF I comment any further.

[@xenon333]

@John Sampson he explained exactly why. Pay attention.

[@willchristie2650]

@John Sampson You are a very sad person. I doubt you watched the video at all.

[@willchristie2650]

Noam has triggered your defense mechanisms for your religious faith in the GOP and Trump.

[@inanempi7272]

Or not.

[@qinoqino7643]

GOD told us All this would happen KJV Bible Book and Chapter :Matthew 24, Mark 13, Luke 21 Revelation 13-

[@kevinmclee7662]

A linguist way out of his depth and an interviewer possessed by ideology.

[@hikeoganessian9729]

why listen to Noam..others have told us years ago...He's just saying what we know..Dane Wigington..Guy McPherson..Gary Null....years ago Noam.. And get someone that has a voice left...he's annoying......

[@harbor7329]

" Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man , in whom there is NO deliverance:" Psalms 146:3 Rotherham translation. " Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help." Psalms 146:3 Kings James Version. " Do not trust confidently in noblemen, in a human being to whom salvation does not belong." Psalms 146:3. Byington translation. " Do not put your trust in princes Nor in a son of man, who cannot bring salvation." Psalms 146:3. New World Translation

[@damnedyankee946]

@Rick Jefferson Davis 😂

[@waitaminute2015]

Hey Rick, you're on the wrong channel.

[@bruceness2730]

Echo's of "The Brave New World" and "1984", Orwell and Huxley saw all this coming a decade ago.... "Jesus "The Christ" didn't call them "sheep" for nothing.". You may quote me, kids...lol...!!! OR, quoting King Solomon, "There is nothing new under the sun.". Ameen, Ameen and Ameen....!!!