The Story of The Burning Crusade Classic [Lore]

[@joshuabrown8457]

"The Prince had started snorting Fel Magic" xD I'm dead haha

[@DrWarcraft]

Ikr 07:23 hahahaha

[@gorvarhadgarson5227]

It's funny because it's true!

[@haysooon]

I came here to comment this hahahahaha

[@azuraquinlilax1245]

@@gorvarhadgarson5227 it’s strong, makes you feel powerful , it’s highly addictive and euphoric , and corrupts you the longer you use it. And destroys you if you over use it. Put it in a pipe and it’s basically crack xD

[@nyx_jupiter-trash]

Then go ahead, get res sickness or do the corpse run.

[@misgeklordalltrained]

i heard the jimmy story there, thank you for reminding me

[@Lavauser]

I'm waiting for Legion Classic to come out.

[@zepho100]

Lol, you can play it in the time warp.

[@ottlika]

i'm can't wait for WoD Classic first....

[@jacobring7274]

@@cameronmcewen9666 just watch the movie, but only the scenes that feature orcs. they nailed it.

[@Austin-mw2hq]

Same man same

[@abaddonmorningstar8871]

No. Why would you not want a continuation of its story? Of all zones?

[@YungLeeson]

All I have to say is... Imagine clicking thumbs down on a Nobbel video, like he doesn't do the best job, without fail, every time

[@ExaltedJester]

Your comment was a year ago but yes, you are correct. Nobbel is the reason I know the back story of every important character in WoW.

[@Wildchildinc]

16:40 All they got is a blue staff. We're going for the epics, EPICCCSS!

[@Rakshiir]

I remember fighting Illidan back in the day. He was a really tough fight before the nerfs.... an interesting fight... but I never understood why he was suddenly a complete villain back then

[@Nobbel87]

tbc days! Lore was more in the direction of 'Remember this from WC3? Have fun!" they've added quite a bit later down the line to make it fit, especially with an eye on Legion and the return of Illidan

[@zepho100]

Being locked up for thousands of years, knowing you’re right can make you bitter I bet. He wasn’t totally bad, just ruthless in his pursuit with countless collateral.

[@mokarokas-1727]

@@cameronmcewen9666 - But there's no show coming out..?

[@gokibros4451]

He was ultimately a triple agent and even what he was doing in TBC was with the intention of undermining the legion albeit at the expense of everyone else.

[@mokarokas-1727]

@@cameronmcewen9666 - lol okay, I guess I have to break it to you: there's not going to be a show just because you email Blizzard and ask them to make one. And while I'm at it: stating the fact that there's currently no show coming out is NOT "trolling" and does NOT make me a "WoW hater". What the fuck is wrong with you?

[@Archris17]

This is so incredibly useful to me. My boss recently dragged me back into playing WoW and I have NO idea what the hell I'm doing or what's going on. I last played back in _Cataclysm_ and I had no idea what was going on even back then. This recap of the story and what our character/other adventurers have supposedly done in chronological order is exactly what I needed. Hell, I'm even getting hints on where to learn to ride netherwings ;) You're doing an immense service to noobs like me who are late to this party.

[@superplatinum]

yes the story that killed Keal Thos Swagstrider and made Illidan not prepared for the raid at hes door

[@AdriatheBwitch]

@Fenris Lowell Well, thats what blizzard want you to think lol. Back in BC they had no cue what to do and they even said Illidan was just mad because they had no idea how to epxlain their lore

[@gokibros4451]

@@AdriatheBwitch Bruh they had every idea what to do. Illidan was simply preparing us to fight Arthas by aslkdfjdoiwenfdsjkfjdhgoi

[@AdriatheBwitch]

@@gokibros4451 Looooool, Illidan never cared about Arthas more than war3 when KJ asked him to end him after war3 Illidan never cared about the scourge and BC lore never show otherwise

[@gokibros4451]

@@AdriatheBwitch No no see it was a part of the master plan. You see first he would ??? then ??? and most importantly ???? throw the ring into the goblet of fire mountain

[@AdriatheBwitch]

@Fenris Lowell Go read some guides, and quests that were releassed during that time and not books rleassed 10y after =) just saying

[@mammakstolltv]

You are not prepared!

[@mokarokas-1727]

@@cameronmcewen9666 - But there's no show coming out..?

[@mokarokas-1727]

@@cameronmcewen9666 - No, I'm not..? And how am I doing it "again", if I never did it in the first place? ;o

[@Whalebarf79]

Fel Magic is a helluva drug.

[@alexdarkheart667]

Thank you, Nobbel! I can't say how grateful I am for your vids. Rock on!

[@chazhartwayne6493]

Man I can't wait for TBC Classic. That's where it all started for me

[@pakmanx8409]

So excited for TBC classic ..... i started retail back in late TBC and i didnt really raid hardcore till WOTLK as i was a complete noob for TBC .... getting to expirince classic has been prob some ofmy favorite WoW content yet , almost XD

[@demberelarthas]

"not even once" -fell drug

[@Dornaden]

Rurikar references cut deep ;.) i wonder if jimmys still out there man... playing everquest..

[@primecalibur]

Dude holy crap, I forgot about those - time for a nostalgia binge

[@zwojack7285]

if you think about it, TBC had a consistent background story and allowed for a ton of different enemy types and biomes and everything but people couldnt follow it. Today you have like one bad guy and every enemy you fight is in their image..

[@AdriatheBwitch]

Lol, you serious? I think you should read BC lore, in BC and not the lore that was brought later on by Legion, because i remind you that how they explained why illidan as evil in BC was to say he was mad and evil and they still wont explain why he had slaves in zangarmarsh....like all fine as long as you save the world anyway even having slaves is totally fine..

[@gokibros4451]

tbf having a random ogre giant randomly killing dragons and impaling them on spikes is a pretty compelling story

[@Sir_Olorin]

TBC had anything but constistent lore really xD

[@jacobring7274]

​@@AdriatheBwitch that's why the night elves chained him up in a hole for 10,000 years. he had a nice ultimate goal, but his method just seemed too reckless for anyone to agree with.

[@AdriatheBwitch]

@@jacobring7274 His goal was not even explained untill Legion i remind you, becaus if you recall in war3 he clearly say that pwoer is all he wants, there is nothing like some master plans to end the legion

[@mysticalplatypus87]

Thank you Nobbel, your videos are always awesome 👏

[@mokarokas-1727]

@@cameronmcewen9666 - But there's no show coming out..?

[@mokarokas-1727]

@@cameronmcewen9666 - wut? How is it trolling to say there's no animated show coming out when there isn't..?

[@mokarokas-1727]

@@cameronmcewen9666 - wut? How is it an insult to say there's no animated show coming out when there isn't..?

[@electrobolt4523]

I like how Nobbel speaks like he's singing a lore song.

[@tunesfortoons6507]

This is exactly what makes it unbearable to listen to for me unfortunately :(

[@BrayZap]

I CANNOT WAIT TO PLAY TBC OMFG

[@karldergrosse-333]

I just got a wow leveling boost service ad before this vid. Some things just never die lol..

[@ThePhantomKingX]

Thanks for the recap. I'm more interested in trying out bc classic now.

[@gokibros4451]

He pretty much just told you the whole story and the quests in retail are entirely unchanged iirc. You can go do all the dailies you'll be doing every day already.

[@MrRhoadsRules25]

so crazy how much story telling was built off of warcraft 3 when you think about it, like 20 years jam packed with additions to the story and it's still going

[@barkley8285]

vanilla, tbc, and wotlk are the only xpacs that follow wc3

[@leiflillelandskjold5796]

Great video! Was missing abit more background on Vasjh/Kael and how they came to be allies. And also A short bit of Zul'aman.. but apart from that - Excellent! :)

[@storebramilos1064]

Nobody is telling wow lore better then Nobbel. Word up G!

[@mokarokas-1727]

15:34 - There's a clash between old and new lore here, as the Chronicle states it was Khadgar who managed to make contact with A'dal (who was in the Army of the Light). 15:49 - Slight correction: it's "on the orders of", not "in order of". ^^

[@Nobbel87]

Hmm what you mean with clashing of lore? Khadgar and Velen were the ones reaching out and drew the attention of the Army of the Light -> a'dal and crew send out. It was then the aldor that drew his attention to shattrath. Second bit, yeaaaaaaa one day i'll learn proper english...one day!

[@mokarokas-1727]

@@Nobbel87 - You're right, I misunderstood the bit about the Aldor and thought you meant it was them who made contact. ;o

[@sdrake8355]

“ EPIIIIICS! I’M ALL ABOUT THE PROFESSOR PLUMS!” Poor Jimmy.

[@tributestreetspipejourney9030]

Bless u Nobbel, u make my day everytime. The style of talking and plot u create are water to my thirsty soul!

[@I_am_a_cat_]

but he.... doesnt create the plot?

[@po5tboy]

love the jimmy the mage reference

[@dylancash5243]

absolutely love this. keep em coming=]

[@azakki]

great refresher for Classic TBC!

[@AdriatheBwitch]

Well, its not really the lore of TBC its the retconned TBC lore by Legion and chronnicles >

[@kevinserrano1623]

So naturally i whipped out the thottbot.

[@jaceks88]

@nobel87 What was the name of the Belf Hunters who refused to use fell magic?

[@BrayZap]

I love TBC and WOTLK the most cause the story line actually follows the real Warcraft 3 storyline, everything after these xpacs is just weird and doesnt fall in line with the regular lore

[@Gokkee]

Comment for the greater wow loremaster 👌

[@chidy9699]

@Nobbel87 I have an important lore question for you. Considering we've been through Outland, defeated the lich king, and even beat sargeras and the burning the legion once and for all. Are we, or will we ever be prepared?

[@hushglowie]

Could you possibly do a lore video on the druids of the flame? 🔥🦅

[@Breaker242]

I know that TBC was a weird part of the lore but even internally it makes no sense if I think about it. Between the dark portal opening for the first time and the events of TBC the amount of time that supposedly passed was around 10 years and yet the advanced population of adult netherdragons (black dragon brought there by Deathwing in his pact with Nerzhul) would make it seem like they must have been there for at least a few generations already. Kaelthas and Vashj built up giant and very complex industrial facilities seemingly from scratch in a matter of just 1-2 years between Arthas ascending the Frozen Throne and Lord Kazzak reopening the portal? The whole chronology of events if thought about in a logical way would make it seem like these things must have all happened over a much larger timescale to be believable.

[@Breaker242]

Addendum: Actually the time for Black Dragons to be on Outland must be even less than 10 years because thats when the first war between Orcs and Humans happened, whereas the deal with Nerzhul and Deathwing only occured after the Second War during Beyond The Dark Portal which in the beginning of Warcraft 2 it explains as having happened 5 years later. So really everything we see regarding the Netherdragons settling in Outland and fighting the gron etc must have happened in less than half a decade

[@mokarokas-1727]

@@Breaker242 - Development on Outland post-Third War was pretty quick, but you're actually wrong about the amount of years passed. Between the first opening of the Dark Portal and TBC roughly 25 years have passed (Second War being a couple years later). Between Arthas ascending the Frozen Throne and TBC there are about four years.

[@Nobbel87]

tbh time moves pretty quickly in WoW. Most expansions only last a year or two on the timeline. Imagine being a rando citizen on Azeroth dealing with a world devestating threat every 2 years.

[@KateBe11]

Does anyone know where is the short clip from @22:25

[@Nobbel87]

That's a cutscene that plays out while going through the demon hunter starting area

[@KateBe11]

@@Nobbel87 Thank you, and ofc goes without saying, top work as usual, keep it up and thanks as always!

[@mokarokas-1727]

@@cameronmcewen9666 - Lo ok, dude... If you're annoyed by me asking you to explain your weird statements, you're free to say so or even ignore me. But don't you fucking play the victim and act like you've been "harassed" or "trolled", when YOUR response to simple questions is to make up stuff, insult me and talk shit on MY PARENTS. :D And not just me either; you're doing this to several other people! And also keep coming back to do it MORE, for no reason. YOU'RE the one going around harassing people, and I've been asking you to stop multiple times.

[@mokarokas-1727]

@@cameronmcewen9666 - That's some sweet projecting you're doing there, because not only has that NOT happened, but I have several examples of YOU coming "out of nowhere" to talk shit about me and also my parents, for absolutely no reason. And, like I said, several other people as well. How are YOU the victim of anything here? :D

[@mokarokas-1727]

@@cameronmcewen9666 - And you literally just repeated yourself because you can't explain your logic. Saying it's not happening right now is not an insult, and does not make me a "WoW hater". Grow up, dude.

[@TheFlyWahine]

Never knew that path was made of the bones of the fallen.

[@franciscocano6856]

The killed*

[@Ayayron_e3]

if you watched asmon's stream you'd know

[@TheFlyWahine]

@@Ayayron_e3 Not watching his videos or his fucking streams.

[@jellyfrosh9102]

@@TheFlyWahine why

[@nickmessner700]

I love how tight and compact the dungeons are. They all come in clumps of 3 or 4 and tell an important element of the overarching story. Edit: Can we talk about how sexy Liadrin's shield is? I need that xmog blizz.

[@MrKobeBryant818]

You're awesome, thank you!

[@daboy8107]

Why is he rolling the R so akward? Dude wants to be a draenei himself

[@justin9649]

Always interesting how sometimes our enemies are actually our friends, but we don't realize it.

[@dantompkins5398]

Are you going to to do one for Legion? I don't really want to play through it. Ive been AFK since panada land

[@Nobbel87]

Can do!

[@alenpotocnik1522]

Question for the lore people. Is there any information about Croman follower from WoD and now in SL?

[@SH4D0W0733]

So after deafeting Kael'thas at Tempest keep. Did... Did everyone just leave all of those space ships there?

[@sherogames6440]

I love how you left out the whole reasoning behind belfs joining the horde because its just a one huge mess that makes no sense.

[@jacobring7274]

>.< oh dang. good point. im gonna try to find something on this

[@greyworld6242]

Back when things were simple.

[@DeBoRL]

I enjoyed the "jimmy" reference

[@jegermarc]

How did the Blood elfs sabotage exodar before they took off? Where have they met before?

[@mokarokas-1727]

Kael'thas' blood elves were already on Outland under Illidan's leadership. They assaulted Tempest Keep, leading Velen and some Draenei to take the Exodar wing back from them and escape with it to find allies (on Azeroth).

[@Clarkeh616]

I am here before the comment war between who's best Aldor or Scryer :O

[@tigzee27]

Scryer. Inn-keeper is closer to BT

[@mokarokas-1727]

@@cameronmcewen9666 - Aldor*

[@g.k.2400]

I may not play wow anymore but I do love BC

[@wrathcrusade]

you should :)

[@mokarokas-1727]

@@cameronmcewen9666 - Um, what?

[@mokarokas-1727]

@@cameronmcewen9666 - Uh, yeah. Why are you randomly insulting me where I haven't even posted?

[@mokarokas-1727]

@@cameronmcewen9666 - Uh no, you were randomly talking shit about me in this thread, before I even commented in it. You're describing yourself pretty well, though.

[@mokarokas-1727]

@@cameronmcewen9666 - Uh no, you were randomly talking shit about me in this thread, before I even commented in it. You're describing yourself pretty well, though.

[@Ash-qd2ke]

Just read the Illidan novel…so I’m back here lol

[@RetroToonsOfficial]

Thank You

[@TheDeekins]

hey if you're reading this comment and don't know or care who Nobundo is go and watch Nobbel's vids on him, he's actually super cool and interesting

[@mokarokas-1727]

I get why you might go watch that video of you don't "know", but why would you go watch it if you don't "care"? :D

[@Reinminer]

I hate that so many horrible memories are coming back from my BC years. So many bad things happened those years, so many regrets

[@FilipGjorgiev]

SO MUCH INFOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[@archfiend334]

5:34 "McTheridon"

[@bryceanglin876]

I know this doesnt deal with this video but can anyone explain to be why Kel'Thuzad is in the Shadowlands when his phylactory was never destroyed?

[@gamefan987]

Because modern Blizzard doesn't acre about old lore

[@nutcrackit7396]

because he was banished there by the player. However without his phylactery being destroyed he basically goes wherever he wants

[@mokarokas-1727]

@@nutcrackit7396 - That still doesn't really make sense, especially now that he's in the Maw.

[@Nobbel87]

the way i see it; his phylactory works like an anchor to the physical world where as being a lich makes him more at home within the Shadowlands.

[@gamefan987]

@@Nobbel87 so he can go back to Azeroth anytime he wants ? Or someone has to "summon" him ?

[@kenhammscousin4716]

Naturally I whipped up the thottbot, and looked at the rewards

[@deesul4134]

love your stories, but i found it a struggle with the video since the video jumps in timelines that dont match the audio. I kept getting confused until i stopped watching the video and just listened

[@v2occy809]

wtf. i never noticed the path was bones. 11:40.

[@coreylockridge6269]

Draenei bones, check out Nobbel87'S video on the creepiest things in wow. One of his Holloween specials

[@Rikkul3oml3]

Does anyone else want to know why azshara sent lady Vashj with illidan???

[@deathbringerswill2066]

Fel Reaver aggro sound MonkaW

[@haophongnguyen7069]

Why didn't Illidan bring Fel Orcs to Northrend to fight Arthas ?

[@zepho100]

They don’t like to wear coats.

[@seth4271]

am I the only one who noticed that he got archimond and kil jaden swapped in the beginning

[@Nobbel87]

ooow so i did, WOOPS

[@donjan007]

Nice

[@Zersetzor]

Ah, back when Khadgar looked like a wise archmage. Crazy times.

[@vonhumboldt1985]

never knew the path of glory was actually skeletons...

[@adamfabian6969]

make story of Big Chungus next please

[@vlathyroszytherion2284]

But still, Can undead mate with other races?

[@baibac6065]

Can you make a similar video in English?

[@tarnishedsquid2967]

I still hate how they did my boy kael in TBC.

[@TheGaliffrey]

I wonder how the fk Deathwing made it back to azeroth

[@CookieCurls]

I'm 15 seconds into the video and already lost. You mentioned like 10 names I don't know.

[@AdriatheBwitch]

How to mess up the lore of warcraft in order to releas war4 later because yeah during BC blizzard still considered WoW just as something in between war3 and war4 and thats why they killed most of their chars like illidan and kael etc during BC

[@Dr.Cosmar]

Oof, my guy, 27 seconds in...wtf? It's actually a pretty important fact that Sargerus wanted to destroy the old gods specifically. He was willing to, essentially, abort unborn titans slumbering in their worlds. This went from, "Kill all the infected worlds" to, "kill all worlds so they don't become infected". Speculation; Sargeras' conviction grew to doubt, and he was driven mad after harvesting the powers of Fel energies from the twisting nether (chaos realm). Titans are just really big "us". It would make sense they CHOOSE to harness the powers of order from their respective realm, and even reside their maybe. However, Sargeras attempted to harness Fel, and much like many of us (the world characters), he went completely insane with power. Which came first is a "chicken and egg" problem. I'm just trying to say, if you are going to do lore, get all the details correct or don't do it. It's why I'm no longer subbed. It's like the time you said Illidan teleported Argus or teleported Azeroth....he did neither, he broke a veil between the two. Should I get a napkin, punch a hole in it, and fold it for demonstration?

[@Nobbel87]

"Sargeras expressed his growing fear that existence itself was already flawed - an idea that he had come to terms with following his encounter with the Old Gods. Only by burning away all of creation could the titans stand a chance of thwarting the void lords' ultimate goal. In Sargeras's mind, even a lifeless universe was better than one dominated by the Void. Life had taken root in the cosmos once before. Perhaps after the physical universe was scoured of corruption, life would take root once again." Chronicles volume 1. Didn't want to dive too deep into the story of Sargeras and kept it at destroy the universe, including azeroth. Think that works!

[@braeddie]

Sabelion? The fuck nobbel?

[@TheAshkan100]

"uhmmm"

[@HardCR0W]

So Lady Liadrin and Blood Elves are forever indebted to the Alliance at the end of TBC... oh wait...

[@gokibros4451]

The horde ultimately helped them in the fight against the armani trolls that were at their gates. Blood knights and spell breakers as a concept got sidelined and made unimportant after the expansion as well. Velen would do something there because it is the right thing to do and not to hold over the Blelfs. Many Blelfs still consider themselves friendly to the alliance and their current leader has clashed first hand with horde tyrants like Garrosh's and Nathanos's/Sylvanas's minions or whatever. In a conversation during BfA Lor'themar has a casual conversation with Thalyssra (Nightborne leader) of the alliance where he and her are largely indifferent to the horde and the horde vs alliance issues as a whole. Mechagnomes also seem rather indifferent and just want to be around their gnomish bretheren of kalimdor.

[@gokibros4451]

@@cameronmcewen9666 They are basically the highborne descendents and possibly older or as old as Malf/Tyrande. To them this probably just seems like baby shit compared to the ancient Elven empire.

[@bindair_dundat]

Classic servers are a good way to reset your channel and start over. XD

[@BobertJunior1025]

The way you say draenor bothers me

[@strejl4457]

Who

[@declanclarkehancock]

You roll your tongue wayyyy too much

[@MarcRitzMD]

Really bad.

[@joachimgustafsson5352]

If you didn't make up this silly voice and talked normally i would actually listen to this.

[@clay1250]

1st

[@hauschiller]

Would really like to watch the whole 26:13min, but I cant stand your accentuation and therefore wont be able to listen through the whole video, making it pointless to watch. sorry