"Mount it under your desk." Noctua made a crotch cooler. These are the advancements I want to hear about.
@omura003 ай бұрын
friggin' genius i say.
@007the_name_is_Bond3 ай бұрын
HOLY SHIT, @Bitwit, pls pin this genius idea
@SirGingerOfKnight3 ай бұрын
*instructions unclear meme*
@eternalgamers103 ай бұрын
As a Florida guy, that's not a bad idea 😂. Noctua might be onto something here.
@neondemon51373 ай бұрын
Swamp ass cooler
@Derakkon23 ай бұрын
I cut 4x 140mm holes in the back of my entertainment cabinet and mounted Noctua fans with grills. The intake fans are towards the bottom and have a magnetic filter. The exhaust fans are up towards the top and just have grills. Since I don't have to worry about dust, I am using a test bench frame to hold the computer. This setup keeps my HTPC nice and cool.
@youquagmire3 ай бұрын
Awesome that a company is finally looking into some stand alone fan solutions. I too am in a similar boat with my htpc demanding more cooling...I have already got 2x120mm fans mounted at the bottom of my cabinet with a grill up top but without some extra push, the heat doesn't escape quickly enough. So looking forward to that video of how you are going to implement them on you're setup.
@iiXboxLiive3 ай бұрын
5:18 "thermophison" lol
@RyTrapp03 ай бұрын
It's German, clearly😂
@PhreakDarkSoul3 ай бұрын
@@RyTrapp0 Bernhard Kümel build it first... maybe?
@Bitwit3 ай бұрын
i knowww :(
@goatman863 ай бұрын
thermo siphon, not phison. In theory It's just an air cooler with flexible heatpipes. I'm kinda surprised nobody thought of that sooner
@iiXboxLiive3 ай бұрын
@@goatman86 we know it's siphon. Kyle said phison in the video lol.
@Hjorth873 ай бұрын
A seasonic noctua collaboration?!? *insert rainbow drool*
@uzer_zero3 ай бұрын
The modular desk fan system would be great for adding a filter, so that it could be placed on a bench to direct soldering smoke away from you while soldering medium-to-large boards or handwired circuits. I kludged together something for this using a desktop gooseneck mic stand and a 120mm fan, and this desktop stand would have been SO much better.
@bjyoungblood3 ай бұрын
The thermosiphon concept is what the IceGiant with Prosiphon Elite released 3 or 4 years back. The benefit of Noctua's is that the heatsink isn't blocking the top half of the motherboard. The benefit of IceGiant's is that you don't have hoses (which I imagine the coolant could leak from). The vapor is entirely locked into the metal pipes attached to the heatsink. I have the IceGiant, and it performs extremely well with my 5950X. I can peg my CPU at 100% with video encoding as it hovers between 4.5-4.6GHz and see temps stay in high 70s/low 80s.
@photonboy9993 ай бұрын
I don't think the coolant is any more likely to leak from a Noctua thermosiphon vs the IceGiant. The Thermosiphon is a sealed system, and with good quality control and design, followed by TESTING after manufacturing I think the odds that a leak would occur would be incredibly LOW... and glad you like your IceGiant (it is pretty neat concept), but it gets about 2degC higher temperatures vs the Noctua NH-D15 SE so it's pretty much in line with the $33 (USD) cooler like the Thermalright Peerless Assassin SE.
@bjyoungblood3 ай бұрын
@@photonboy999 , "The Thermosiphon is a sealed system, and with good quality control and design, followed by TESTING after manufacturing I think the odds that a leak would occur would be incredibly LOW" Cool! Thanks for the clarification on that. That definitely makes the Noctua solution more compelling to me. In regards to performance compared to Noctua NH-D15, you're correct for most consumer uses (including my own). Where there is a slight benefit to the IceGiant is over extended periods. Due to its huge heatsink design, its heat-soaking allows it better sustained heat dissipation and higher boost clocks on a prolonged, single run at high temps. So, if it encoded a video for many hours, the Noctua would gradually fall behind, though it would start out winning for a while. Most benchmarks don't account for this. Noctua's fans are definitely quieter. Admittedly, the IceGiant's performance isn't good enough for the price. Thankfully, I was an early adopter and preordered it at a much lower price than it can be bought now (
@jesh87929 күн бұрын
@@photonboy999 IceGiant, even in its current iteration, has a product which pulls way ahead under high wattage loads. I'm sure the D15 is better on a 65W processor. Put it on Threadripper and it's not even close. That means that IceGiant has some work to do, and the current design they are working on looks very similar to what Noctua has here. Noctua is literally trying to push a new competitor out of the market before they get too strong with a disruptive idea.
@austinnafziger41593 ай бұрын
I love thermosiphon cooling. I have the IceGiant on my 5900X and never see it get above 80. Beast of a cooler. Nice to see some competition in the space.
@emp19853 ай бұрын
Something tells me the "competitive" $150 NH-D15 G2 is still not going to look well at the side of the $35 Thermalright Peerless Assasin...
@Wall_Flour3 ай бұрын
Yep, this was my first thought.
@deuswulf61933 ай бұрын
More like their $40 Phantom Spirit Evo, which is even further ahead of the Peerless Assassin in terms of performance.
@Astralthelionheart3 ай бұрын
I’m sure it will win the noise normalized tests, which is the market Noctua is going after.
@CianMcsweeney3 ай бұрын
Nah noctua all the way, way quieter and the best customer support/experience I've ever had. They've sent me multiple free kits for new CPU sockets, zero questions asked.
@Shaboops3 ай бұрын
@CianMcsweeney Full vouch, they replied really quickly and sent me some extra mounting parts no questions asked. Noctua ride or die for life
@iDustball3 ай бұрын
Love the coverage dude, always glad to see you uploading!
@-Ambos-3 ай бұрын
to this new kind of cooler> there is no such thing like "hey, this is a new product and maybe next year...". If Noctua shows this now for the first time, your children might buy it once.
@freerangemtb3 ай бұрын
Some of those extra accessories look like they could easily be sold as 3D Print files. Imagine being able to just buy the files and 3D print your own adapters. That'd be cool.
@BobDrenth3 ай бұрын
Some actually are on Noctua's Printables profile, right there for you to print at no cost :)
@sagichnicht67483 ай бұрын
@@BobDrenth Indeed. Great move by Noctua.
@ploed3 ай бұрын
@@BobDrenththat's why I still buy their fans, they care about their customers.
@BansheeBunny3 ай бұрын
How is it not an All In One (AIO) or Closed loop Cooler (CLC), just because it does not have a pump?
@Rok_Satanas3 ай бұрын
It's a heat pump, like an airconditioner. Uses evaporation/phase change to cool. I would still call it an AIO because it's all in one, but i understand why they want to deferentiate, since in PC cooling AIO or CLC refers to something specific.
@laggmonstret3 ай бұрын
@@Rok_Satanas Also probably not as effective as if it it had a Pump. But still interesting since it can be good enough with less noise perhaps.
@Rok_Satanas3 ай бұрын
@@laggmonstret Sure, but noctua is known for Good enough silent performance, so i understand why they didn't put one in
@laggmonstret3 ай бұрын
@@Rok_Satanas Certainly :D
@CptLang973 ай бұрын
Definitely a CLC, but not an AIO
@kyangsable3 ай бұрын
Did Lyle come along?
@Spartan5362 ай бұрын
Noctua and Seasonic working together on Seasonic's PRIME PSU's is just sheer perfection. There are no better power supplies than Seasonic PRIME PSU's, I am currently using a PRIME PX-1000 (2021) and 4x Noctua Industrial iPPC fans on my radiator, both are absolutely stellar in build quality and performance.
@Kyle_VanMan3 ай бұрын
My fellow Kyle, I am thrilled to see regular uploads from you again - missed you my dude. Your particular flavour of technertainment is the best of YT.
@Nutakins3 ай бұрын
I concur
@bucyrus50003 ай бұрын
The concavity of LGA 1700 isn't by design of the chip, it is how the same old cpu retainer that they designed in the 90s deforms the thinner IHS on the modern Itel CPUs. We chould switch to a cooler mounted CPU retainer that the CPU/cooler then slots into the motherboard. This has a lot of theoretical benefits (the CPU can be sealed away from exposure to air humidity, allowing sub zero work, as well as integrated heaters, and structurally locking the CPU to the thing that is sharing thermal stress).
@jamesd0013 ай бұрын
I believe it's also due to the LGA1700 CPUs being slightly thicker but they didn't make the mounting bracket higher, so it gets extra bent in the middle. Adding washers under the mounting bracket to raise it slightly is reported to give a better heatsink contact.
@GrumpyPants5723 ай бұрын
That desk fan would be good for us sim racers / flyers!
@Nutakins3 ай бұрын
Great having you back ser, one love.
@johnpaulbacon83202 ай бұрын
Very nice. Intersting that the fans are now being used in a more consumer oriented way.
@someusername1213 ай бұрын
Lga1856 will come with a ILM shim to do the same effect as the washers.
@tmsphere2 ай бұрын
A liquid going through many vapor-liquid-vapor phases will also cause the liquid to evaporate outside of the locked loop and degrade with many cycles, i dunno how this is more efficient than AIO maybe the only upside is no need for pump.
@VncentValntine3 ай бұрын
8:00 my dad used to make these all the time from scraps lmao!
@esaedvik3 ай бұрын
I'm already running a few 140mm fans on the desk at 5 volts via a USB adapter. Nice and quiet.
@BlackbirddcАй бұрын
I have extra noctua fans and being able to use one as a desk fan would be dope.
@gasracing50003 ай бұрын
very cool. that non aio cooler is brilliant
@tryllejens3 ай бұрын
So basically an AIO without a pump? so one less possible point of failure, and no pump noise. Nice!
@ShinGoukiSan3 ай бұрын
Noctua is well qualified to represent the LBC 😂
@Nutakins3 ай бұрын
The first thing that came to mind for me too 😆
@ragtop633 ай бұрын
This is why I stay subscribed to bitwit. No shock “journalism”. No need to drum up drama for views. Just talks about tech and gadgets in an easy to understand format. Stay classy Kyle! Also, that’s not an HTPC. It’s an A/V receiver. But I guess the net result is the same 👍
@skjenn133 ай бұрын
We need to see a Noctua Auto edition, where they design airflow for automobile manufactures to optimize airflow and cooling efficiency where we nee dit most in every day use in Texas summer heat!
@kberlinquetteАй бұрын
I want an entire Nocuta PC
@xellaz2 ай бұрын
I prefer air-cooling my CPU but unfortunately I had to go for liquid AIO when the Noctua NH-D15 struggled cooling my CPU. That new AIO looking Noctua CPU cooler sounds really interesting though. If it can show results that can compete with top liquid AIOs... I would definitely consider getting one instead.
@VastadАй бұрын
@5:15 so that's basically how fridges work. Sounds like a liquid/gas with a low boiling point. But you said it was reliant on gravity to work? Hmm, so that would limit it to always mounting above the CPU/motherboard. Fridges have a compressor for a reason but maybe when it's this small, it can work.
@DanteTheAbyssalBeing3 ай бұрын
A CPU heat sink with Ford Model T cooling technology. I like it.
@crankycat36773 ай бұрын
I'd much rather have a portable and not mounted desk fan which also has a rechargeable battery. That's the only kind I use for anything since I can take it with me and it helps alot if the power goes out in the Summer.
@skjenn133 ай бұрын
So...what you're saying is that I can potentially convert my "AIO" into a mini distillery...okay, I'd love to see someone bring that concept to life! haha
@gbxmusicchannel38363 ай бұрын
I added a noctua fan to my psu years ago and it's working great =).
@onedeadcatАй бұрын
One problem with Thermosiphon coolers is that they can't work if your MB/case is inverted.
@thseed73 ай бұрын
Kyle at Computex is always the best.
@UnixGoldBoy3 ай бұрын
Dude! I love that BMW M3 you are riding in at the beginning of the video!
@vicious123943 ай бұрын
Wouldn't there still be the issue of leaking seeing as there is liquid inside. Plus wouldnt the gas leech out over time making it less efficient to the point where it no longer works?
@jesh87929 күн бұрын
it has solid metal tubing. no evaporation or leaks. this is the same type of design used in industrial applications that lasts 50 yrs+ without service. PC use pioneered by IceGiant, not noctua.
@TimmyInTarky3 ай бұрын
Amazing stuff. Wondering what's going on with the upcoming Ryzen 9 - would they have similar weird plate and would the CCDs bi similarly positioned?!
@balla21723 ай бұрын
I think the thermalrite is king atm as its $35 which has better performance than this vooler thats 3x as nuch...
@hardlyworgen713 ай бұрын
FYI thermosiphons are not new tech. The Ford Model T used a thermosiphon instead of a waterpump.
@TGFTTGFFGTTRUEFHROWHEF3 ай бұрын
i always choose noctua its hard to change to another brand...for air cooler... the heatsinks are top notch
@Dom_Mason3 ай бұрын
Been with Noctua since what 2005? I can't remember. The NH-12U. They are the King of air cooling. Glad they are going in PSU and AIO market.
@sethglenn90222 ай бұрын
That's EXACTLY how HVAC and refrigeration works.
@Zatchillac2 ай бұрын
Was wanting to build a new PC next year but looks like I might be waiting a little longer for the G2 Chromax Ah, according to a Noctua rep on Reddit it looks like Q1/Q2 2025 for the cooler
@johanlahti843 ай бұрын
I'm having a hard time believing that 2 long heatpipes will do anywhere close too a 6-8 pipe normal heatsink. But future tests will enlighten us. Would be awesome if it did perform well.
@LaneBatman-c2v3 ай бұрын
Who else thought of “ball cooler” when you said you can put it under your desk…” haha
@Mateo47R2 ай бұрын
So basically they made a heat pump'ish type of design for a pc. But just using ambient moisture in the air. What happens if you live in extremely dry areas?
@hi_tech_reptiles3 ай бұрын
Noctua should find a wood grain that matches the color of their brown perfectly. Then they can keep with the trend, maybe get on some peoples radar they wouldnt otherwise, but stay true to Noctua lol.
@goatman863 ай бұрын
I think either lapping will make a strong come back or deliding will get more popular if this trend continues.
@SBlazeable23 күн бұрын
when do we get a noctua air conditioner that can confuse an HVAC technician when he turns it on and it doesn't make any sounds before dispensing a melted austrian chocolate bar as a meter of quality assurance when the unit is working & it informs him to restock an unmelted chocolate bar.
@lil----lil3 ай бұрын
Color me EXTREMELY interested. If it lives to the hype. It's a BUY for me!
@PhotoJohn803 ай бұрын
considering its only a prototype... NO they did not kill the AIO.... YET.... I hope it becomes a product because I can't stand AIOs and Watercooling... too much maintenance for me to care to deal with them. I will be upgrading to their new 140 air cooler when I go to the AM5 platform!
@jesh87929 күн бұрын
check out IceGiant
@ursdubel35853 ай бұрын
Yeahhh Noctua entering the destillary market 🤣🤣🤣
@VinzentB3 ай бұрын
omg Im hiped, I always wanted a syphon cooler! event thougt about building one my self, and if Noctua (my favorit brand all time) releases one Im so happy (:
@zenon30213 ай бұрын
i'm still using my noctua fans from 12 years ago, still working well (and I keep my computer on 24/7)
@did00p3 ай бұрын
i wonder how can 150$ air cooler kill 70$ liquid freezer III 280 ...
@aaronazzcalibur5893 ай бұрын
omg i really want the desk fan. but i hope it comes in Noctua brown.
@ThorDyrden3 ай бұрын
Following Noctua development for a while now.. I would have never imagined how complicated it is to design a fan. Simply though the fan-blades are some simple injection-moulded peaces of basic plastic. But if you try to minimize the gap to the frame for pressure/noise-optimization ... need to consider this fan must still work in temperature ranges from -10° to maybe 90° without starting to touch the frame... has centrifugal forces affecting it for years... you get a glimpse of the challenges the engineers had to overcome and why they need so much time... and why high-end fans cost 5x as much, as cheap no-names.
@wololo103 ай бұрын
My warped frame made the fan make so much noise, had to return them
@immune62202 ай бұрын
okay but better question when are FLAT IHS going to be the standart?
@rehtsch3 ай бұрын
Nice contribution, but never in life does the development at noctua take only one year when something is in prototype status. This new AiO concept will certainly take a good while until it is perfect among all the points that noctua sets itself and the product.
@ploed3 ай бұрын
Can't wait for the "AIO" from Noctua.
@xxshiftywolfxxgaming11423 ай бұрын
That new “not an aio” sounds like an aio with extra work
@superslash72543 ай бұрын
Isn't that chart just describing exactly how heatpipes already work though?
@NaptownClassicАй бұрын
Snoop Dogg would choose the LBC cooler.
@justcynical65903 ай бұрын
the tx1600 is the best looking psu, i want one so bad.
@technicallyme3 ай бұрын
Super pipes in aio form. Pretty cool
@DJGSonik3 ай бұрын
So Noctua made an Air conditioner for your CPU It´s exactly the way an AC works :D
@jesh87929 күн бұрын
They just copied IceGiant's idea.
@bigpappa_2 ай бұрын
Looking forward to it
@DidYouReadEULA3 ай бұрын
Love the Seasonic collaboration because it is the only PSU brand I trust.
@allnighterist3 ай бұрын
Is there a noctua stand fan and ceiling fan?
@URSoDead2MeАй бұрын
That "AIO" has all the upside of a typical cooler without the downside. What's a price tag ya'll thinking? About $400?
@workinprogress5936Ай бұрын
I am curious of you could use R32 refrigerant in a condenser/evap combo to super cool the chip
@jesh87929 күн бұрын
Refrigerant like that produces temperatures lower than the dew point and you have to fight condensation.
@boblast5582Ай бұрын
so noctua is making gentle typhoons now?
@dusans2923 ай бұрын
I was thinking the same. Put 2 of those fans under my laptop. I have a 13950HX and the laptop is very loud
@cemsengul163 ай бұрын
The Thermosiphon steals the show. Sadly it will be a couple of years before that goes on sale.
@jesh87929 күн бұрын
IceGiant has had commercial products available for a long time.
@joemama31913 ай бұрын
noctua studying vehicle air conditioning and implementing into a pc haha
@vasiovasio3 ай бұрын
Great video! Thank you!
@c99kfm3 ай бұрын
First, Noctua case fans. Second, Noctua CPU coolers. Third, Noctua Edition GPUs. Fourth, Noctua Edition PSUs. Finally, Noctua case, to put all the other parts in - dare we dream?
@arindryn3 ай бұрын
Noctua is such a neat company
@Chaos_God_of_Fate3 ай бұрын
I wish Noctua would make their fans in White, I just hate their color scheme unless it's in a wooden case- I'm fine with no RGB but I gotta have my white builds. I do really like their new PSU though, that thing is nice looking. That desk fan is kinda dumb though- costs 100 dollars... would be neat if it was maybe 30-40. I'd rather put that money toward a 3d printer, then make my own- there are free plans out there to make the same thing and tons of different variations as well..
@rickss693 ай бұрын
While these large air coolers do a fantastic job there is no getting around the fact the main reason many don't want to use them...they are freakin huge and cover up most of the motherboard.
@magicmulder2 ай бұрын
Will I be able to just swap the fans in my existing NH-D15? Or did they change something with regard to form factor/width between?
@_hank95083 ай бұрын
With how quickly Noctua brings products to market I'd say Noctua just killed the AIO in 2045.
@jesh87929 күн бұрын
IceGiant already has products like this on the market.
@TheTechMonkey7023 ай бұрын
I still feel the high-end Tower cooler market is too niche. Too much weight on the M/B IMO, along with the TR Towers. I want to see high pressure AIOs next!
@Alster7632 ай бұрын
So it is a phase change AIO. AIO only stands for all in one.
@angelme56923 ай бұрын
So... what's more preferable? Buying a new cooler every time you upgrade your CPU or lapping you CPU? :3 These new SKUs yes will offer better performance, but you will basically need a new cooler for every COU upgrade, or at best your upgrade path will be extremely limited... Is Noctua the only company trying to address certain issues? Yes... But there will be customers that will use the wron SKU for the wrong CPU and temps will be higher than just using a completely flat cooler... I feel that lapping is the only way to go now... Everything else is an expensive fix...
@nicholasgossic2 ай бұрын
Wow you made an A/C system like in a car...for a CPU.
@BoraHorzaGobuchul3 ай бұрын
Perhaps the CPU manufacturers should take some care to manufacture flatter ihs...
@bluelabel2223 ай бұрын
What gas are the using in the aio? Sane as automotive? 1234yf?
@shaunogg99663 ай бұрын
Fan-See stuff there.
@Ammpermeter2 ай бұрын
fase exchange is consume 6 time more energy
@xBINARYGODx3 ай бұрын
there are many reason why that wont replace most AIO's
@RomaYT9993 ай бұрын
How doesnt it have a leakage probability problem? You just said there is liquid in it.
@seski892 ай бұрын
You look like an angry Tim Pool with hair
@xxxbg3112 ай бұрын
i dont think it will be enought and more efficent from AIO to cool 14700k/14900k