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Noctua Prices are getting out of Hand - 100 USD Desk Fan Tested

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@chrism2964
@chrism2964 2 ай бұрын
Already 3D printed one of these and used a Noctua fan for it. Works quite well actually, quiet and directs the air where you want. $100 though? Nah.
@geort45
@geort45 2 ай бұрын
my thoughts exactly... the design is so damn simple and no way it looks like a "home product", it totally looks like a DIY item... the inner fan is standard... who would pay $70 for that "body/base"?
@conorstewart2214
@conorstewart2214 2 ай бұрын
@@geort45 there will be people who will buy it just because it is from noctua. Probably the same people who are so proud not to have any RGB in their PC and proud that they used the normal brown noctua fans rather than the chromax ones.
@geort45
@geort45 2 ай бұрын
@@conorstewart2214 I think they have good products, I use their redux and their small 40mm fans. Their brown color scheme sucks hard
@ouroesa
@ouroesa 2 ай бұрын
How is this better than a normal pedestal/desk fan?
@DLTX1007
@DLTX1007 2 ай бұрын
@@mikeycrackson They handicapped them at 800rpm because there are many considerations in a fan, centrifugal forces that tries to pull the blades apart, and 800rpm doesn't sound like much but on a 200mm fan it is serious, either you add more gaps between blade and frame or you lower fan speed. Adding more gaps would harm fan efficiency Yes I know there are 1000rpm 200mm fans but they have larger gaps
@kurgo_
@kurgo_ 2 ай бұрын
4:11 I swear I heard "tiny handheld fuck machine" and I did a double take lol. Maybe noctua could sell this fan for 100€ if they added a fuck machine.
@YuProducciones
@YuProducciones 2 ай бұрын
OMG AahahahhahaaHAHAHAHA I CAN'T bruuuhhhh ... yeah my guy pronunciation make me hear some else xD!
@annebokma4637
@annebokma4637 2 ай бұрын
You are clearly not in the know about fuck machine prices... If you thought the fan was overpriced 😂😂😂😂😂
@sparkyenergia
@sparkyenergia 2 ай бұрын
I suppose they are screwing you on the price, they might as well finish the job.
@GabrielTobing
@GabrielTobing 2 ай бұрын
Lol same hahahahaha
@ZyxEd2525
@ZyxEd2525 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for this video and I agree that the pricing is ridiculous. Btw, when using the fog machine to visualize airflow please use a dark background.
@GoldPunch
@GoldPunch 2 ай бұрын
I am here just for the cat.
@burrfoottopknot
@burrfoottopknot 2 ай бұрын
My dog is watching the cat with great interest
@anonymous-zg7wh
@anonymous-zg7wh 2 ай бұрын
@@burrfoottopknot try take doggo to a cat shelter, see if doggo wants a cat sidekick lol
@IIARROWS
@IIARROWS 2 ай бұрын
@@anonymous-zg7wh That sounds like an assault.
@burrfoottopknot
@burrfoottopknot 2 ай бұрын
@@anonymous-zg7wh It would be like Batman vs Catwoman, lots of hairballs and fluff going in several directions lol
@shiftctrlhack
@shiftctrlhack 2 ай бұрын
😀
@KZ-ko4vm
@KZ-ko4vm 2 ай бұрын
Noctua becoming Dyson
@Simon_Denmark
@Simon_Denmark 2 ай бұрын
Getting those Noctua headphones soon.
@thephoenixking1086
@thephoenixking1086 2 ай бұрын
Yup, I actually still own one of the older Ball Dyson fans, cost me less than this fan yet 6+ Years later, it still pushes MUCH more air. - People need to remember that you can always go second hand etc. Get something expensive for a lot less in some cases.
@baconwizard
@baconwizard 2 ай бұрын
At least Dyson considered aesthetics for HOME appliances
@atherasia
@atherasia 2 ай бұрын
@@Simon_Denmark It probably will be very quiet, though.
@panzer3279
@panzer3279 2 ай бұрын
Noctua has always been a marketing company. There's a reason why they continue to make brown coloured fans.
@ArdgalAlkeides
@ArdgalAlkeides 2 ай бұрын
12V 2A is also ridiculously overpowered for that use .. 12V 300mA is closer to what those fans actually draw. I've been making these at home with cheap packs of Arctic P12s, 3d printed shrouds and stands, bought a dozen of 12V 500mA adapters from Digikey, and PWM controllers from AliExpress. Maybe 5 minutes of soldering per fan. When I calculated the total cost it was like $20/fan for a home builder, before all the mass production discounts etc.
@rasmusvedel
@rasmusvedel 2 ай бұрын
Could you like a good PWM controller? I haven't been able to tell the good from the bad I've seen on there so far.
@TheDoomerBlox
@TheDoomerBlox 2 ай бұрын
Huh, that sounds nice. You should probably make a little video about that so that you can link some things and not get pwned by KZbin Comments(tm)
@ouroesa
@ouroesa 2 ай бұрын
Why are you making these? What for? Im genuinely interested in the use case for these horrid things.
@PainterVierax
@PainterVierax 2 ай бұрын
​@@rasmusvedel a good PWM controller? any cheap microcontroller coupled with some discrete components depending on the technology of the fan (2, 3, or 4 wires) can do the trick. That's extremely low tech nowadays. Depending of the number of i/o pins available, a single microcontroller can drive several fans independently. Some fixed speed fans can rattle if PWM driven without adding a small capacitor to smooth the power output.
@rasmusvedel
@rasmusvedel 2 ай бұрын
@@PainterVierax You’re not the one I asked and that didn’t answer my question.
@tbrayden3694
@tbrayden3694 2 ай бұрын
$100 and it’s only a 120MM fan 😂. Noctua trying to get creative and branch out looks like. Next thing you know, they’ll slap a sharp metal blade onto one of their 120MM fans and market them as a way to chop carrots with 🥕.
@volvo09
@volvo09 2 ай бұрын
You can literally spend $30 more and get a window AC
@CaptainScorpio24
@CaptainScorpio24 2 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@monsieurlee
@monsieurlee 2 ай бұрын
Hi It's Roland with the Noctua Slap Chop. You're gonna be in a great mood all day because you're gonna be slapping your troubles away with the Noctua Slap Chop!. Now look here's a potato. One slap you got big chunks for stews, two slaps - home fries in a second! If you call within the next 30 minutes, you get Noctua toothpaste for free! Here's how to order!
@Xfade81
@Xfade81 2 ай бұрын
@@volvo09 can you link one ?
@concinnus
@concinnus 2 ай бұрын
I mean, even at $100 it would be a 1000x cheaper chopper than a Cybertruck.
@wolf1438
@wolf1438 2 ай бұрын
This reminds me in my first job. We had no AC so I dismantled 140 mm fan from faulty PSU and connected it to 9V battery with paper clips.
@BogdanDulgheru
@BogdanDulgheru 2 ай бұрын
I have a battery of 4 fan from an IRIS 50 ... 220V/50hz. Loud but better than commercial fans ...
@K31TH3R
@K31TH3R 2 ай бұрын
I bought a really nice locally made ceiling fan for $98.99 about 5 years ago. I never use the max setting because it's genuinely frightening. Not just because the obscene amount of air it moves, but because it looks and sounds like a concussion or stitches waiting to happen if you got too close. I think if Noctua showed their $100 120mm "fan" to the mad lads who made my OP ceiling fan, they'd get laughed out of the room. That my ceiling fan costs the same as this thing is hilarious to me.
@ciaranplunkett1395
@ciaranplunkett1395 2 ай бұрын
It's a pity you didn't compare this to the Arctic Summair Plus (which released LAST YEAR!) that's 1/3rd the price and portable.
@TheDoomerBlox
@TheDoomerBlox 2 ай бұрын
Huh, that's a thing. It's also a 5V USB-powered thing. Cool.
@cosminmilitaru9920
@cosminmilitaru9920 2 ай бұрын
Nice! I had no idea it existed.
@ivocunha3362
@ivocunha3362 2 ай бұрын
I do hope this fan blows more than air!
@coboldelphi
@coboldelphi 2 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, it doesn't, and it is a slightly painful discovery
@HanSolo__
@HanSolo__ 2 ай бұрын
@@coboldelphi Experience you mean?
@d1l4te43
@d1l4te43 2 ай бұрын
It does. Your money
@Boogie_the_cat
@Boogie_the_cat 2 ай бұрын
It blows goats if you ask me.
@FrietjeOorlog
@FrietjeOorlog 2 ай бұрын
@@coboldelphi You got delidded?
@f0x4nn3
@f0x4nn3 2 ай бұрын
the adapters and stuff in the box makes it feel like a DIY project.
@buborka7441
@buborka7441 2 ай бұрын
Surely for a "home" product, USB would have been more sensible
@roboman2444
@roboman2444 2 ай бұрын
A boost converter would easily be able to handle the power requirements for the 12v fans driving from 5v. Or a usb-c pd setup could work too. Or noctua could just use their 5v version of the a12x25.
@HazewinDog
@HazewinDog 2 ай бұрын
I think "home" is referring to the Noctua fans going "Noctua, you're drunk, go home." in response to this...
@Deses
@Deses 2 ай бұрын
For 100€ it should be battery power tbh
@nadussee
@nadussee 2 ай бұрын
Exactly! I have a usb desk fan that has a 5v to 12v step up converter inside the usb connector, no idea what noctua was thinking.
@ulamss5
@ulamss5 2 ай бұрын
If they tried to do USB, it'd be released in 2085 for $890 because they had to make the power delivery stabler and cleaner than the LHC. They simply had to.
@josuad6890
@josuad6890 2 ай бұрын
Honestly, I think Noctua themselves know that the pricing is just insane, and it's probably meant for those people that just think of buying the fan as an aesthetic piece rather than a practical fan, you know, those crowds that's proudly anti-RGB on PCMR forums even though RGB stuff is arguably cheaper these days and swears by their noctua fans. For normal folks with more sense than money, noctua provided the stl file for you to 3D print one yourself if you're into this, but noctua probably secretly hopes that if you print one yourself, you'll still buy at least one noctua fan for "the best results".
@astanisystems
@astanisystems 2 ай бұрын
I don't see the point of people hating RGB when you can simply not use it even if you have RGB available component/s. I agree on RGB stuff being cheap and sometimes even cheaper than non-RGB, as it was the case with a RAM kit I bought. I went with ARGB RAM and it was cheaper than black out RAM. Sure, you can't get the full ''stealth'' look with RGB components because of light diffusor being white, but if done right(like BeQuiet did it with Light Wings fans), ARGB/RGB can be that cherry on top that you need. As for the Noctua and their desk fan, hard pass on that. Ain't no way I'd spend that money on what is essentially a glorified PC fan. For 100 bucks I could get at least 10 cheap fans and figure out the flow shroud and stand, as well as PSU, which could be any PC PSU with a MB pin bridged to make it run, and I'd still have extra money to spend on whatever else. Noctua is expensive and offers little to no advantage over lets say Thermalright. Thermalright killed with their air coolers, especially with Peerless Assassin and Phantom Spirit. Noctua is like you said, for those PCMR ''stealth'', '' black out'' people that still think that Noctua is the top of the line. I don't know, I just couldn't imagine a white case with those ugly beige-brown Noctua fans. It's the one thing Noctua doesn't need a patent for, since no manufacturer, not even some knock off Chinese manufacturer, would want to infringe on that ugly ahh color scheme.
@itisabird
@itisabird 2 ай бұрын
I prefer to pay a couple more euros for non-rgb stuff because I don't want my PC to look like a night club. Why do you think that I have more money than sense? It is not like if I was paying twice the price...
@Rushil69420
@Rushil69420 2 ай бұрын
It’s aesthetically terrible lmao. I thought their whole thing was function over form?
@asicdathens
@asicdathens 2 ай бұрын
You mean the Apple crowd
@ChairmanMeow1
@ChairmanMeow1 2 ай бұрын
*raises hand* I hate RBG. Doesnt mean Im paying $100 for a fan lol.
@SDLNEXUS
@SDLNEXUS 2 ай бұрын
Like der8auer as an official Noctua sucker, i immediately bought one of these & it arrives today ! Can't wait to get back into the office and make my summer wilting colleagues jealous as i bath in my over priced Austrian goodness !
@andrewwebb5871
@andrewwebb5871 2 ай бұрын
now i want to see how the shroud works if you mount it to a fan in the case of a pc!
@PREDATEURLT
@PREDATEURLT 2 ай бұрын
Shrouding can in some situations help temperatures, but its very specific shrouds for very specific pc layout.
@arudanel5542
@arudanel5542 2 ай бұрын
Dell and HP did a ton of that in the early 2000s, with heatsinks buried by plastic case, and air funneled right to them via ductwork. Amazing the lengths Alienware will go to to avoid retooling a case from 2009. Maybe earlier, hard to say. But mount this to a front fan, aimed right into a CPU tower, and it might drop temps a few c, just due to removing hot GPU exhaust from the equation.
@steffenwei9926
@steffenwei9926 Ай бұрын
Look out for fan showdown. There is a show about that. And also where this Idea comes from The Cheater.
@BoredErica
@BoredErica 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for addressing the issue with the lack of cats in your videos
@Scarlet_Soul
@Scarlet_Soul 2 ай бұрын
4:10 That's an interesting fok machine
@HazewinDog
@HazewinDog 2 ай бұрын
ik hoop binnenkort meer katten te zien dan!
@HanSolo__
@HanSolo__ 2 ай бұрын
What the fok?
@thephoenixking1086
@thephoenixking1086 2 ай бұрын
Looks to me that it works in the same way as a Vape does (seems to even have the same coil thing but uses none flavoured liquids).
@Scarlet_Soul
@Scarlet_Soul 2 ай бұрын
@@thephoenixking1086 That went right over your head didn't it
@thephoenixking1086
@thephoenixking1086 2 ай бұрын
@@Scarlet_Soul No, I just thought I'd explain what I think the actual Fok machine was lol.
@Vatharian
@Vatharian 2 ай бұрын
Don't forget that USB specification allows for 12 V power supply. Noctua didn't even need to swap to 5 V fan - they could've supplied PWM to USB adapter and either throw USB-C brick or state it needs a cellphone charger and voila. The product would've made a lick of sense.
@shanedoesyoutube8001
@shanedoesyoutube8001 2 ай бұрын
Under USB PD, is it???
@benjaminfrohns
@benjaminfrohns 2 ай бұрын
@@shanedoesyoutube8001 Yes, the Power Delivery supports a few different voltages. There is a small chip that dictates what voltage the supply should provide.
@shanedoesyoutube8001
@shanedoesyoutube8001 2 ай бұрын
@@benjaminfrohns that, I'm highly aware of The thing I didn't expect is using it on non battery power
@JJFX-
@JJFX- 2 ай бұрын
A compact USB PC fan that doesn't work with typical PC ports makes even less sense than this power supply. The average person assumes a use case like this is universal. Just use a 5V fan and call it a day. The only reason I see them doing it the way they did is so it could still be removed and easily used as a PC fan or plugged into a fan header and controlled through the computer. Still dumber than 5V USB but it's an option.
@abduktedtemplar
@abduktedtemplar 2 ай бұрын
Remember when cars had crotch fans? Hello Noctua ball cooler!
@blackrifle6736
@blackrifle6736 2 ай бұрын
*Yep. Mom's Toyota Cressida.*
@slimshadythe111
@slimshadythe111 2 ай бұрын
Love how you went through the process of breaking down each component you get with it.
@vojtasoo
@vojtasoo 2 ай бұрын
I can't wait for 3D printing this for few euros.
@analogicparadox
@analogicparadox 2 ай бұрын
Noctua literally offers the file for free
@saberknight2474
@saberknight2474 2 ай бұрын
@@analogicparadox Where? Is it on their website? I could not find it. Edit: I had to check their twitter and found they had posted a link to the file on printables.
@LoLxD-ze4wq
@LoLxD-ze4wq 2 ай бұрын
i thought the same man 100 usd is way too much
@HazewinDog
@HazewinDog 2 ай бұрын
@@analogicparadox If it wasn't for that I think people would not only be bewildered but straight up angry lol
@vojtasoo
@vojtasoo 2 ай бұрын
@@analogicparadox they will send me PLA for free? Still need to pay for material and electricity.
@arudanel5542
@arudanel5542 2 ай бұрын
I compared one to my 5 year old Honeywell turbofan.. it's not as good. The Honeywell fan moves a ton of air, on highest settings it will blow over a half can of soda if it's too close. I can feel the air almost 10m away. It's also cheap, right around 20USD. The Noctua needs that tunnel fitting to move air half as far. Also, for a Noctua setup I have hooked up a 200mm Noctua to a power supply with a fan speed knob. Spent a few bucks on it all, well under the cost of this and it's actually effective, since it's a more reasonably sized fan. Not sure who this is for, but it really does feel like it's April 1.
@mybsite5697
@mybsite5697 2 ай бұрын
This is a great solution for the compact room content creator where heat from the pc make it uncomfortable and noise is also an issue from a fan. But the price sucks.
@CoreyPL
@CoreyPL 2 ай бұрын
Citing the classic: "Is this an out-of-season April Fool's day joke?"
@MakeYourVision
@MakeYourVision 2 ай бұрын
Noctua Prices are getting out of Hand almost 13-14 years ago :D
@chadmckean9026
@chadmckean9026 2 ай бұрын
52" ceiling fan: 50-60 (Home dept); ceiling fan box: 10-15; 15ft 14-2: $15; total: 75 - 90 20"box fan: $20 alternatively on hand noctua fan, on hand variable resistor, run 12v out of computer (alternatively you could lop off a usb cable and just run it at 5v)
2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the inspiration Noctua, i have 3 fans laying around collecting dust. Might as well print 3 brackets and shrouds, order 3 €6 adapters and sell them on for €100 a pop.
@angelangelov2354
@angelangelov2354 2 ай бұрын
Just solder a fan splitter to a usb plug and use that to power the fan(s) that you already have. 5V is enough for many fans to achieve good RPMs and adequate airflow. I use this with Yate Loon D12SH-12 fans and it works perfectly fine.
@aaronwlkr
@aaronwlkr 2 ай бұрын
Years ago when I worked in the computer industry, we all had made fans with PSU's, 90mm fans zip tied together. Every time someone ordered a custom built computer with upgraded fans and PSU, the wall grew bigger lol
@scottsmall9898
@scottsmall9898 2 ай бұрын
Seems like a perfect fan to mount under your desk and have it pointed towards your twig and giggle berries. I'm sure it would do a great job. For over $100 plus the extras just to get it hooked up to power it better make me smile once in a while.
@liam.odonnell
@liam.odonnell 2 ай бұрын
I always believed that if Noctua ever ventured into making home fans, they could totally give Dyson a run for their money. I imagined that they would leverage their expertise in aerodynamics and product design to create something truly impressive. Maybe they could even come up with a groundbreaking home-cooling product that would shake up the industry. I really want to be excited about this product, but it feels like they might be playing it safe by just meeting the expectations that people have had for years. And by that, I mean to make A desk fan.
@--_DJ_--
@--_DJ_-- 2 ай бұрын
I'm not sure there is much room left for innovation in the home cooling market. Kind of a solved problem at this point.
@liam.odonnell
@liam.odonnell 2 ай бұрын
@@--_DJ_-- Good point! I think “groundbreaking home-cooling product” is too strong. Instead, I would have liked them to challenge Dyson to make the nicest-looking and most efficient fan possible. Squeezing out every last drop of performance.
@--_DJ_--
@--_DJ_-- 2 ай бұрын
@liam.odonnell There is definitely a market for expensive air moving equipment in homes.
@Ligby
@Ligby 2 ай бұрын
The noctua NF-FU
@user-yb5ct2sc4v
@user-yb5ct2sc4v 10 күн бұрын
Lol as soon as you showed the product, i immediately thought of a 3D print
@conorstewart2214
@conorstewart2214 2 ай бұрын
This reminds me of the solder fume extractor I made. It is a cheap 120 mm fan with a 3D printed housing and a carbon air filter.
@noxious89123
@noxious89123 2 ай бұрын
"They're charging $100 for this * _visible concern_ * I bought it anyway". Average Noctua customer! X)
@The_Noticer.
@The_Noticer. 2 ай бұрын
One weird product lineup doesn't make the rest bad.
@robmasters3569
@robmasters3569 2 ай бұрын
what a delight I am so happy that your cats are back. I was one of the people complaining so thank you for bringing them back.
@StubbyPhillips
@StubbyPhillips 2 ай бұрын
Is there a point at which people just stop buying this stuff because the prices are insane? That happened to me a couple of years ago. I realized I can enjoy my journey just fine (better actually) with a lot less "stuff." Sure, they all want the line to go up for the shareholders, but when people get fed up and just stop buying it nobody wins. I mean... there _is_ a limit, right? Is decent quality at a fair price with good customer service just not a viable business model now?
@petrihadtosignupforthis8158
@petrihadtosignupforthis8158 2 ай бұрын
They released 3d model and I happily printed it as I am just building custom wind sim for sim rig (hobby, for cash to someone). It makes for very good exhaust.
@StaelTek
@StaelTek 2 ай бұрын
honestly, Noctuas prices has been getting out of hand since 2016. I remember when you could buy the NH D15 for about €60. Now it's like €110 (if not more - and yes it was also around that price before the inflation!) and nothing has changed, other than being manufactured in China, rather than Taiwan like it used to.
@a36538
@a36538 2 ай бұрын
Noctua is drunk, I’ve spent hundreds on their hardware ALWAYS to be let down. Their fans are junk and have spun bearings and splattered grease. And that colorway is atrocious
@fredEVOIX
@fredEVOIX 2 ай бұрын
@@a36538 they whistle and whine at high rpm never understood the craze...yes they make zero noise at 800rpm where they push no air at all yes...but turn the rpm above 1200rpm and they are very loud...i have a triple rad setup and I use QL120 fans the worst rated for rads why ? because for +1°C at worse liquid temp all I hear is a woooossshh at 1600rpm zero high pitched noise just air the same a large room fan does I sometimes forget to turn the benchmarking fan profile off while with either noctuas or bequiet you immediately slow them down...annoying noise
@LongBarrelJoe
@LongBarrelJoe 2 ай бұрын
The cat thinking "oh my here we go again with another techy stuff... "
@Riztard
@Riztard 2 ай бұрын
"pfft nerds"
@vangeeson
@vangeeson 2 ай бұрын
Tooke the 3D print, adjusted to 140mm and built 3 of those around my VR simracing space. Sweat is gone but i never would have paid more than the actual pieces for iit.
@Kjeilen
@Kjeilen 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the review. One thing missing from the review was how the shroud affects the sound level/profile.
@LBCAndrew
@LBCAndrew 2 ай бұрын
I have a fan almost identical to that with a shroud that i 3d printed, but mine is for use in my workshop since it's using a 120x38mm SanAce 6,400 rpm monster of a fan. You can feel it blowing 20ft away across my garage when its on full speed.
@slizzle.280
@slizzle.280 2 ай бұрын
Arctic sells something identical except for the airflow director, but it's powered by battery and thus does not need some fancy power supply or PWM controller. 25 Euro last summer.
@kosyoyanev
@kosyoyanev 2 ай бұрын
Arctics are 4 Euro for 12x25 and they come with 10 year warranty. Performance is on point. Last time I have used Noctua was at 2014.
@labemolon5739
@labemolon5739 2 ай бұрын
I recently purchased several Noctua fans and they came without rubber corner pads…which meant that the fan blades didn’t have enough clearance and subsequently rubbed against my case. The pads are an extra $12. Per fan. I refunded them and it will take some massive innovation for Noctua to earn my business/money back.
@EliteRock
@EliteRock 2 ай бұрын
Hmmm. A simple vane-grille (egg-box, honeycomb) will also convert the angular (spiralling) flow/speed of the air coming from the impeller to axial, in fact might work better than the 'nozzle' design Noctua have used here.
@leonidastankiangaming
@leonidastankiangaming 2 ай бұрын
Finally someone explained what that air amplifier is and what it does. Not even a Noctua rep could explain this to me.
@vdkaa
@vdkaa 2 ай бұрын
The biggest issue with Noctua HOME is that they're only available in all black. I want these in the classic beige/brown!
@Simon_Denmark
@Simon_Denmark 2 ай бұрын
That is definitely not the BIGGEST issue.
@ionstorm66
@ionstorm66 2 ай бұрын
100% if it's priced like a designer product it should look like it.
@swizzler8053
@swizzler8053 2 ай бұрын
​@@Simon_Denmark😂
@vdkaa
@vdkaa 2 ай бұрын
​@@Simon_DenmarkIt is a much bigger issue than the price! Noctua and not beige/brown is blasphemy.
@AnonYmous-yz9zq
@AnonYmous-yz9zq 2 ай бұрын
This product tells all your friends, you're buying lunch.
@vollhorst140
@vollhorst140 2 ай бұрын
Noctuas pricing has always been insane and this thing is right in line with it. Retail prices for the Fan 35€ and Controller 25€ that is 60 alone. Adding 10 for the psu, 10 for the guidance thing and 20 for stand and there you are. I can totally see how noctua got to the price point. And to be fair in the past every KZbinr on the planet ignored the noctua pricing and praised them for everything as the best thing ever.
@mithikx
@mithikx 2 ай бұрын
Not necessarily the same but the ARCTIC Summair is $22 USD vs $99 USD for the Noctua NV-FS1. The Noctua uses a 120mm computer fan and the Arctic is a more bespoke fan. $99 USD puts you in range of getting a Milwaukee or Ryobi brand worksite fan with some money left over to put towards either a battery or an extension cord which those fans can use for power delivery.
@Greyskyy151
@Greyskyy151 2 ай бұрын
Sooooo... Wen Noctua Vacuum?
@Retro-Iron11
@Retro-Iron11 2 ай бұрын
They need to sell that shroud so I can put it on my 120mm noctua nf p12. I am also using the noctua NA-IS1-12-SX2 spacer with it so it's not directly flat on the case. That shroud would be perfect as the fan is directly at my pch/2x m.2 drives on the board and I have to currently use a back slot "fox-1" squirrel fan opposite it to help get the air into that space. BTW: Pat the cat!
@richiegore1
@richiegore1 2 ай бұрын
I printed the air amplifier and found it a big improvement with a 120mm 5v noctua fan I have mounted to my monitor arm.
@StansTechStuff
@StansTechStuff 2 ай бұрын
Noctua followed up on last year's Arctic Summair and Summair plus, but for triple the price (at least), double the size (not of the fan blades) and no optional internal battery. I got an Arctic Summair with the built in battery and apart from the build quality it's super useful. Has a 6 year warranty so I'm waiting for the day it snaps to get it replaced with new one :D
@Kraaketaer
@Kraaketaer 2 ай бұрын
For the smoke/fog testing, I wish you had moved the wand around more - especially looking at airflow around the sides of the fan/amplifier. I would expect it to be designed around exploiting Bernoulli's principle, "dragging" surrounding air along with the directed jet of airflow and thus significantly increasing actual airflow - but testing with the smoke behind the fan intake won't show this. Plenty of videos demonstrating just how effective this is online though (the classic "inflate a plastic bag with one breath" thing).
@user-wl6rg4zw9j
@user-wl6rg4zw9j 2 ай бұрын
how much would noctua charge for a 12 inch desk fan
@eltamarindo
@eltamarindo 2 ай бұрын
If you drop the voltage on any standard low quality home desk or box fan, you can create an extremely quiet low airflow fan.
@SBvice
@SBvice 2 ай бұрын
I got the Arctic Summair Plus portable desktop fan for soldering and cooling electronics on the bench. I thought 25 bucks was expensive for what it was, compared to this it seems like a bargain 😂 it includes a built in battery, usb c charging / power and a stepless motor and in my opinion looks way better.
@razorsz195
@razorsz195 2 ай бұрын
The only thing i am interested in is the venturi affect fan duct, i have a large case with 2 780Tis that can pull 320W each, overkill for the 5Ghz 4820K but its certainly affected by those cards. thicker fans cost silly money and will be loud, the wasted space at the front of the case would be great if i could duct air right against the cards as the internal air temperature and airflow path isnt the best, 3D Printing is likely going to be a much better option, i do not doubt the quality and precision that has gone into this but they have brought a product into a market of £10 desk fans that are good enough, barely any one is looking for a boutique fan when someone could use a long 3 pin from their PC with a potentiometer backplate and drill a couple holes in a desk fan and 3d print a stand + ducts for what the stand alone costs.. :P
@i_scopes_i3914
@i_scopes_i3914 2 ай бұрын
Also let's say during summer one piece of hardware or another is running hotter than everything else, and use amplifier to direct it straight at radiator/dimm/drives whatever
@802Garage
@802Garage 2 ай бұрын
The AC unit I have been using for 8 years in my room cost me $99 hahaha. A very similar unit is still $161 at Walmart right now.
@HarryG88
@HarryG88 2 ай бұрын
I've had a KEYNICE 5" desk fan for 5 years which does a brilliant job. 6 years old and cost £7.99
@RelakS__
@RelakS__ 2 ай бұрын
Didn't feature a copy of this several years ago Major Hardware on his channel? During a fan showdown, or it was an extra episode, I don't remember He did. 2 years ago 😮 Also, he designed a simple knock off of it, whick kind of looked like the Noctua shroud, but worked just right.
@xaltotunacheron7544
@xaltotunacheron7544 2 ай бұрын
How else they are going to pull out the classic of "we listened to our customers and we reducing prices, because we care so much about your opinion and your feelings". So after the dust it settled we can expect people to talk about how they care for the customers so much.
@TheRealDioBrando
@TheRealDioBrando 2 ай бұрын
really for the price would have been good to have the control dial integrated into the stand and on the front of the stand, having to reach round the back of a fan is something you see on low quality fans and usb as an option. Having socket > barrel > barrel adapter > Controller > 4 pin feels cheap and tacky, barrel connectors in general are bottom of the barrel
@Deltarious
@Deltarious 2 ай бұрын
When you do the pure price to performance even *including* the excellent support and build quality there has always been a 'Noctua tax' as a price premium on their products, and not a small one at all. This just feels like an extension of that where they're trading on their reputation for a convenience item thus big margins
@hokiturmix
@hokiturmix 2 ай бұрын
Or you can use an old PSU housing/case, an USB to FAN connector and a phone charger. I have it for 10 y or so. The trick is not to aim directly onto your body. There are universal AC/DC adaptors 5-12v so you can adjust the performance that way. Overall cost around 15€. My version have a high pressure and a high flow FAN. First is for radiators. The second is for cases.
@ouki4925
@ouki4925 2 ай бұрын
There is no reason to buy Noctua anymore lol. Best 120mm fan: Phanteks t30 Best air cooler: Deepcool Assassin IV with best aesthetics as well 😍 Best perf/price air coolers: All Thermalright heatsinks XD
@The_Noticer.
@The_Noticer. 2 ай бұрын
But will they still be as quiet as you bought them 10 years later? My NH-U9S is from 2013 and it's still got the original fan, and its not squeaking or rattling.
@maxhammick948
@maxhammick948 2 ай бұрын
That price makes the Arctic Summair look far more tempting. USB powered, or a plus version with an internal battery.
@RowdyDangerous1
@RowdyDangerous1 Ай бұрын
My problem is that with noctua's control you have to turn it off with knob instead of the button. If they had a new usb powered control for the home product I would be happy.
@Draknfyre
@Draknfyre 2 ай бұрын
This happens to most peripheral companies that get successful. They start to think their name alone makes the product justified in its price. See also: Razer, Bose. When I was in HS we had generic $20 Chinese-made beige desktop speakers in my computer class. They actually sounded decent for what they were. I laughed when I saw the EXACT same speakers in black with the Bose logo slapped on being sold for $100. And this was 25 years ago.
@N0N0111
@N0N0111 2 ай бұрын
@Noctua your bounce back argument for April 1st 2025 should be comparing your thermal paste vs thermal grizzly thermal paste. Specially compare the prices! PREFECT COUNTER if there was any!
@Fortzon
@Fortzon 2 ай бұрын
It feels like Noctua has forgotten that their Noctua Tax only works with PC case fans. Why pay 100€ for a 120mm fan when I can get a regular 30cm/300mm table fan for much cheaper?
@johnsmith-mo6kz
@johnsmith-mo6kz 2 ай бұрын
I understand the pricing, but for a buyer there is no way the value is enough. Plus as a case fan, I would constantly fear ripping out the wire since it's not fortified in any way over the regular fan. The wire was designed for it to never move inside a PC, but a desktop fan will move around a lot and be subjected to much more stress much more frequently.
@FenixFeniks
@FenixFeniks 2 ай бұрын
Knowing Noctua and their designing habits (GN had an interview with them a while back and the amount of love and labor they pour into R&D is insane), much of the price is likely from R&D of the stand, the air amplifier, and predicted low volume of sales for this kind of product. I also think they likely designed it in mind of someone replacing the fan it comes with with another of their fans that has a different footprint profile. Def could be wrong though.
@Argus10q
@Argus10q 2 ай бұрын
purrfect video explaining it
@Rockport1911
@Rockport1911 2 ай бұрын
Best thing about the vidoe is orange Sheik :) Yeah not that great of an offer. But I like that Noctua atleast has the " redux" line of fans that are alot cheaper. They come in a grey color and minimal packaging/ cables but retain the quality of the actual fan youre getting. Good offer for hidden fans and darker color than " Noctua Brown".
@tomcat2395
@tomcat2395 2 ай бұрын
Every time I see your cat I think that he is so much bigger than ours. 100€ for this fan is absurd since its basically a 120mm PC with a fancy stand and plastic shroud. Profit is probably at least €95. My god the cables and plug are a absolute joke !
@neoburst1
@neoburst1 2 ай бұрын
just an fyi if you have a 3D printer noctua themselves have the files for the desk fan shroud/air amplifier on printables
@LazerDon271
@LazerDon271 2 ай бұрын
It's a great desk fan. Well worth the money. I bought two. One to put in my computer cupboard.
@Dudewitbow
@Dudewitbow 2 ай бұрын
i sorta have a similar setup, but with a Phanteks T30, so the airflow is much more stronger and has a higher top end RPM option if necessary
@arkahimself
@arkahimself 2 ай бұрын
We usually buy CPU air coolers at that price range. (Slightly more expensive in India when imported from US) But this is crazy.
@Skelterbane69
@Skelterbane69 2 ай бұрын
Meanwhile, I have two 5v NF-A20 fans on my desk, running from usb. Absolutely lovely now that it's warm.
@zredman98
@zredman98 2 ай бұрын
surprised the fan doesn't connect into it's stand, would look nicer if it did. but i'm betting the price is just beccause it's a niche product that they don't expect to sell well in the first place so that'd mean putting the price up for a decent profit.
@jarnom85
@jarnom85 2 ай бұрын
Probably max 2 hour of work and printing time combined to make it with fast FDM printer. For shure going to make my own version out of it in Fusion 360 with 140mm fan inside even though there is models out there.
@Fr4kTh1s
@Fr4kTh1s 2 ай бұрын
Oh damn, Noctua copied my design I had in the hot office where I worked 9 years ago! NE 555 for PWM and 3 old Dell server fans... If I knew I could charge 100$ for it, I would already be rich...
@crystal_reverie
@crystal_reverie 2 ай бұрын
I just put 2 case fans on my desk and power them with a PSU from my old PC and a homemade pwm controller. Way cheaper, all I need to do is a little bit of soldering.
@Corle0ne
@Corle0ne 2 ай бұрын
The floof overlords have been appeased! You may live another week Roman
@Furyousmerc
@Furyousmerc 2 ай бұрын
One cat to rule them all, one cat to summon them all
@conorstewart2214
@conorstewart2214 2 ай бұрын
I think the pricing makes sense. This is likely for diehard noctua fans who will likely buy it just because it is from noctua. For the vast majority of people buying a standard desk fan would be better. It’s like any other company’s branded products, people buy it for the brand, it just so happens that since it is noctua it is very good quality too unlike with other brands. I don’t think this is supposed to be a serious product that they expect lots of sales with. Maybe this whole idea came about from an engineer just using a fan on their desk in the summer. If other comments are correct that noctua provides files for the air guide for people to 3D print then it is even more likely that they don’t see this as a serious product.
@jon4715
@jon4715 2 ай бұрын
I was annoyed by this, but good news is that Noctua sells just the stand and just the booster. The downside is that the stand is $40…though the booster is only $15.
@rustler08
@rustler08 2 ай бұрын
What do you mean "good news"? You can literally buy a bigger, better desk fan for like $20-40.
@jon4715
@jon4715 2 ай бұрын
@@rustler08 I thought this would be a better product as a DIY kit. So being able to buy one piece is kind of cool. The price is still outrageous, but at least they have the option.
@G3BEWD
@G3BEWD 2 ай бұрын
Is Noctua ok?
@meat_loves_wasabi
@meat_loves_wasabi 2 ай бұрын
Bought one…the reach is pretty good just wish the fan could achieve higher speed
@Xeonzs
@Xeonzs 2 ай бұрын
"What if we attached a 12 dollar fan, a 3rd printed piece of plastic and some coated steel together, could be a useful 15 dollar accessory" "100 dollars you said?" "What, it's not that exp-" "Absolutely brilliant, sell it, do it now!"
@HyperDroids
@HyperDroids 2 ай бұрын
4:08 Bro indeed tried to visualize the tiny handheld f*** machine.
@HDJess
@HDJess 2 ай бұрын
All 12V fans are 5V compatible. Just plug them into 5V PSU or put an USB connector on them and they'll work just fine. It actually used to be the most popular mod for case fans back in the day (probably still today) to obtain low noise and controller-less fans, just plug them all into the 5V connector of the PSU. The pricing of this Noctua "desk fan" is indeed absurd, especially as you'd get a really nice and big one for $100. It's only real purpose might be for tech enthusiasts and fans of the brand as a display piece on their desktops.
@patricklumpkin319
@patricklumpkin319 2 ай бұрын
usb 3.0 specs allow for 12v if you get the correct cable so it would have been so easy to just make it usb
@wingcommanderbob8268
@wingcommanderbob8268 2 ай бұрын
Regarding the PSU: Elmor sells a USB-C PD to 4-pin PWM adapter (with 3 speed settings) for $10. All it would take is a USB-C cable and a cheap power brick and the fan would be able to be run from the wall OR from a computer.
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