Nokia 2720 Flip + Why KaiOS dumbphones are truly smart

[@mikal_1]

finally, a reviewer that doesn't scream at me with unfathomable levels of excitement!

[@abc-wd4lk]

I totally agree

[@zochbuppet448]

Randos making KZbin videos need to do that when they know very little. Its s all about being loud, and the stupid background music and the "recording studio with lights" when they dont actually know anything.

[@ianalyzeeverysecondiexist]

The fact that it's a flip phone immediately made me fall in love with it!

[@TheJuansanjuan]

Great review. I'm gonna be unplugging from smartphones and social media and focus more on my life and those close to me. This Nokia 2720 is the right one for me.

[@mwanjelorwence4711]

Why

[@nichts-8yearsago]

​@@mwanjelorwence4711Yeah, I wonder why?? Why would they not want to spend all their time on social media or the smartphone to use their time for truly meaningful things instead of being around these people calling themselves family and friend. Honestly, no clue😶

[@asmsrasmsr]

Informative and understated in equal measure. A "thank you" from a UK viewer.

[@dean9251]

This review is brilliant. You've nailed my decision for me. The fact I can uninstall Facebook to just not have it as a visual distraction is great I don't have a Facebook account I only have Instagram but I can live without that. I did want a dumb phone but with WhatsApp due to connecting with family groups... My only thought now for the one issue I might come across is no access to banking apps I've been in situations where I've had to move money around while on the go, but for now we'll see. Nokia 2720 flip, purchased! 👍🏻 This

[@domagojcengic4706]

Hi! could you share your experience please?

[@adim882]

Where is it available? I am trying to purchase it but it seems to be either attached with Verizon or out of stock everywhere.

[@rattsjcfanpage01]

I might get a Alcatel my flip 2 in the near future with TracFone.

[@jackbteaching]

Would be nice to have a KaiOS phone with qwerty keypad, like the old BBs or Nokia E71/72 etc. Would make a nice modern messaging centric phone.

[@vidyavaman1480]

search Jio phone 2

[@jackbteaching]

@@vidyavaman1480 Hard to find in the states, even on eBay... That's ok 👍 still have my Nokia N8 and working as my 2nd phone.

[@JamesHumberstone]

Thanks, this answered every question I had about these Nokia phones and KaiOS. Superb!

[@andrew41980]

Coffee, Cletus and Mr. Scott. Shaping up to be a good morning! 🖖🏻

[@rattsjcfanpage01]

The way how you explained KaiOs vs Android, makes total sense. :) Thank you. :)

[@rattsjcfanpage01]

Never going back to Android as a main phone

[@nedo_tpo]

Thanks for this review. I had KaiOS in mind for quite a time. I wanna put my smartphone in a pc/tablet role and not carrying around. Too much distraction and all. I like the Nokia 2720, especially after this review of yours. Yes it is still expensive and the camera is a shame, but in other fields it looks awesome. Thanks again, you have helped me a lot!

[@TheMeowthTeamV2]

"if its a phone and it can emulate nintendo games its a smartphone to me"

[@tonyjohnson5669]

this reminds me of early android so much. Seeing apps like fake call and others be the top apps on the store remind me of what android was like in the early 2010s.

[@therealshadow3601]

The pointy clicking thing is called a dpad short for directional pad since you are using it to move in different directions just like video game controls

[@ScottiesTech]

That's it!! Dpad. Thanks!

[@MrDJ217]

Thanks for the great information, Scottie. I plan on getting a flip for my next phone. I'm am going to def. Have this phone at the top of my list. Take care.

[@jackoneil3933]

Thanks Scotty! Very cool, but do you know if it's telemetering data to Google and Facebook if you are not using the apps, and if it's doing any Wi-Fi triangulation?

[@ashkaur4863]

KaiOS sounds like a phone for me. Thank you for your informative review Scottie - you sir are a legend!

[@AspergersversusNeurotypicals]

does anyone know if all phones are compatable with standard earbuds with mic, for making calls using headset? some phones i see out there say bluetooth compatable, but none say it's compatable with a wired headset. anyone know of a flip phone dumphone compatable with wired, old school, headset (e.g. not bluetooth)

[@ScottiesTech]

The Nokia ones come with earbuds/mic. The jack on them is for either headphones or a wired headset for making calls.

[@crazycuts6891]

How many GB space does the Nokia 2720 have? And how long is the battery life in the 2720?

[@ScottiesTech]

You stick a microSD card in for storage. 32GB max.

[@miguelmikemigs]

By far the most helpful review of this phone! Thanks!

[@s.p.q.rreborn2080]

Thanks for the review Scotty but does it blend ? Did Cletus get a hair cut for the up coming festivities?

[@desquinn3834]

Additional information was very interesting, great stuff :)

[@michaeljankulic717]

I went into shop today to check if I could find new dumb phone for me. Smart guy showed me 2720 flip, but he was dumb about what it does, didn't even unpacked one and so was I. Surrounded by smart phones, I learned the price and left dumb. But now, I'm smart and I'll go and by that dumb. Thanks!!

[@lewcarrumjohnson2786]

Yes same here, problem is shop salesmen get very little commission bonus unless they are selling you apple, Samsung etc or a network contract. You walk in with the prospect of spending £50 and they are not interested, managers will push them to sell the expensive stuff that lasts 18 months.

[@alexanderjenkins4117]

Thank you for your wonderfully chilled, useful and in-depth reviews

[@rattsjcfanpage01]

I use the Nokia 2760 flip phone as a main phone but I use a smart phone on the side, 3-4 times a week but less. I'm going to get another flip phone, the Alcatel my flip 2. It's a nice little phone.

[@augustinethotho8484]

I like the way, it sounded when you uninstalled the app.

[@RogerSartet007]

Hello Scottie, does this phone come close (menu and 'key-combination-wise', like for example 'lock keypad') to a classic Nokia from the nineties/early 2000's? I've been looking all over to find a 'mobile phone for the elderly' and learned from experience a lot of these people have underestimated their 'dependency' on the ease of use of the classic Nokia menu. Because of, imho, Nokia's poor offering for this audience, a lot of them ended up with something that looked like a Nokia (probably wrongly presuming it would work likewise) and quickly ended up ditching it. I was hoping this one would fit the bill. What do you think? Thank you for your informative video!

[@rattsjcfanpage01]

I’ve been back and forth… I’m going back to a flip phone! I’ve had enough with smart phones. But I’ll still have it for email and a camera. Technology is going to get worse.

[@junkbucket50]

Great review! Will definitely get one of these when they go on sale

[@garrethpage2138]

They have been on sale for over 6 months

[@apcc-lo6630]

I love the structure and content of your review

[@jgaff7974]

Thanks for the video Scottie. I got the 2720 after your previous video giving KaiOS the thumbs up. Bye bye smartphone! Going to get my Dad one for the holiday season..he'll love the big buttons:)

[@agataloca]

@jgaff7974 Hi, since the 3G network is being phased out, I'm desperate to find a non-smartphone that still is decent but works on 4G. Have been looking into this model, but then Nokia 1st told me you CAN send/received MMS with it, yet when I double-checked that it would include sending/receiving MMS w/ not only pictures, but also sound files, they said no?? Which seems completely retarded. My old Sony Ericsson C905 model from 2008 works that way, at least. Under the Messaging menu, you pick either SMS or MMS, and under MMS you can record a file and send as a MMS. Surely, that must work also on this one?? Else I'm f ............! This is the only phone I can imagine getting:/ Pls, could you confirm or deny this about sending/receiving MMS containing sound files? Big thanks in advance!

[@Laser82]

Very comprehensive review, brilliant thank you

[@JesusChristIsLord__]

Thanks for the recommendation! The Nokia 2720 is around 130.00 right now. Good advice on waiting past the holiday season. If prices are low enough then, I'll probably snap one up! As always, thank you for the work you do!

[@patriciakedeni]

Excellent review. I have always liked nokia phones and now looking for a flip dumb phone. Based on your review, i will get this! PS: loved your voice. And i've clicked subscribe.

[@barbwire1415]

I love every one of your concise videos! I'm tech challenged w/questions. Can I switch my Obama-phone service to a new Nokia 2720? Are they unlocked out of the box? Does the 2720 use a sim card? I resist using my android Trac-phone because it sometimes has a mind of its own and must be charged often. Thanks, Scottie and Cletus.

[@ScottiesTech]

Unlocked, GSM networks only, dual SIM card slots. Whether or not you can use it as a replacement for the Obama phone depends on the service provider. I'm not sure, actually!

[@rattsjcfanpage01]

Sounds interesting

[@TheWowwa]

i just bought the phone for my grandma! i don't know if she can utilise the kai os fully. but at least it has 4g, so if 2g and 3g is not available anymore. I can still call or text her. she used the old nokia phone (the t9 keyboard) for a very long time. although this phone's price we can buy a smartphone (low spec). But, I think this phone suitable for my grandma. at least she doesn't have to think about charging a phone so much and she knows how to use t9 keyboard. Thanks Scotty. You got a new subscriber.

[@CyrusOfNaias]

Hey there. Is that Q-Link pendant still working for you? I'm trying one out soon.

[@ScottiesTech]

Yup! Still wearing it. Still happy with it.

[@CyrusOfNaias]

@@ScottiesTech excellent. I live in a somewhat dense telecom area, so I hope it works

[@bs9273]

please tell me how to do the revolving manu to that phone...

[@personanongratis]

Another great quality video by our favorite engineer Scotty!

[@Roamer5]

Nice review! Been waiting for this phone from long time. Nokia yet to launch it in India !

[@Dan-2025]

I wish one day nokia makes a dumbphone that actually has a good camera

[@ScottiesTech]

I hear ya. I never use the camera on my phone, but at only 2MP, those who DO use the camera *definitely* need something better than that...

[@fellowcitizen]

Gonna sub, but it looks like I'm already subbed to your channel! Any experience with Bluetooth keyboards with this? Any options for Signal, Proton or comparable? Thanks Happy holidays :)

[@ScottiesTech]

Happy Holidays! I just tried my Bluetooth keyboard with it, and it pairs according to the phone, but not according to the keyboard. So, it seems that might be a problem. As for Signal and Proton, there's nothing yet. WhatsApp yes, but that's about it so far.

[@afcpez91]

I know the majority of KaiOS feature phones don't run uber as an app but do you know any models where it's possible to book an uber via the website? I'm looking to downgrade for a social media detox and only really need a phone which I'm able to book an uber on to travel..even if it's via the web browser. Thanks.

[@abbasabdulwahab3485]

Is the hardware of the Nokia 8110 4G a perfect fit for the case of this flip phone?

[@CathyDotUK]

Something important if you click the * and # buttons together on the 2720 flip (I can only confirm on that phone because I use that phone) you take a screenshot

[@ScottiesTech]

I did not know that. Thanks!

[@CathyDotUK]

@@ScottiesTech Yeah lol it takes a while before you think "Can I screenshot"

[@amelsfr]

I wish the 2720 had a front facing camera, it would help to have someone bring a videocall service on kaiOS

[@HobbiesAndSunshine]

Thanks Scottie, great review however, on Nokia's website they say that the text on the 2720 Flip can be made bigger for those of us who struggle and this is one reason for the big buttons and larger screen. I will be buying one of these very soon and for that reason, great that you can remove Facebook etc. Thank you.

[@LoboWarriorForever]

How's battery life? How many hours?

[@adilkk6006]

Can we use Google pay in this ?

[@MSaud-zf4mr]

Hi, In the phone book if a name John King is saved......... does it search the phone book by both names John and king or only John?

[@ScottiesTech]

Both!

[@Georg89]

Your video is amazing, thank you. I just bought a Nokia 6300 with kaiOS and was looking for information about kaiOS and "dumbphones". :-D

[@Brabbs]

Hows using the phone so far?

[@Georg89]

@@Brabbs All in all i'm very happy so far. There are some inconveniences (like texting is slow, internet is almost not usable) - but to be honset...this is exactly what i was looking for as it keeps me from doing that stuff too often. :-)

[@Brabbs]

@@Georg89 which model did you buy? I also heard there were problems with voice calls.

[@Georg89]

@@Brabbs I have Nokia 6300 4G. No problems with phone calls so far. :)

[@Brabbs]

@@Georg89 one more question, how well does it work with SD cards?

[@J.Bradley.]

I'm looking for a 4g/4g lte dumb phone that works on Verizons network, takes good pictures, has a qwerty keyboard, and can send and recieve photo texts. Bluetooth would be nice for calls in the car. Do not want google, apps or internet. Any help?

[@gregf9160]

Yep, this one is a big plus for me. I've been following your discussions/reviews on these and this is definitely a potential future replacement :) yay for big, usable button.

[@janetfitzgerald9752]

Time and date are wrong on my 2720. There seems to be no option to change it under, “settings “. Can you tell me where to find time and date settings?

[@tommyjansson7471]

I really like your reviews! How about checking Cat B35 out. It runs KaiOs and I'm planning to buy one.

[@keiths_tech_fun]

Hi. My Nokia Flip phone worked fine first off all but Whatsapp no longer pushes messages. I received a replacement phone and still the same. Nokia tell me to wait for a future update. Does your phone work ok with WhatsApp with messages arriving without having to open WhatsApp? I have tried two different carrier SIM cards. Thanks

[@paulclare6589]

Can the internal sd card be removed and replaced with a 16-32 gb card that has prerecorded music for playback.?

[@ScottiesTech]

Yup. I put a 32GB microSD card in.

[@locutusofborg7122]

Scottie, I found this video so intetesting that I have transcribed like 99% of what you said in the video. If you would like a copy of this transcription, send me a private message with your email address, or another contact method of your chosing. I have 3 questions: (1) Is the Nokia 2720 unlocked; (2) Does it use GSM; (3) Can it be used here in the US with a cell carrier, like AT&T which uses GSM? I thank you in advance for your response to my offer and my 3 questions!

[@greenbeans6253]

i have the 6300. seems very similiar. it is ok generally but the texting is weird. you cant test fast because you end up with a mess and spen more time deleting than typing. Is it the same with all these nokia KaiOs phones does anyone know? thanks

[@av1073]

does youtube keep playing if you close the phone?

[@ScottiesTech]

No, it pauses the video.

[@alsadekalkhayer7007]

Hi, much of thanks for the lovely and useful video. You said that it's not possible to make a voice call, although I read at Kaios Homepage that WhatsApp supports both voice and video call on the latest version of Kaios. Could you please confirm!

[@ScottiesTech]

I'm not sure... Don't use WhatsApp, but the last thing I could find is from June of this year where a WhatsApp dev said that voice calling is "challenging" on KaiOS phones. Voice MESSAGES work, but apparently not voice/video calling. Where did you see that info?

[@PaulJohnson-uw3rw]

Is this phone good for senior citizens.. how about answering calls by wats app. Is it easy? Ease of communication is the key.. please let me know your honest answer is it good for elderly people who are wont do good with smart phone but ok to use a normal featured phone

[@crowman8914]

I'm actually glad there is a Linux fliphone, that's a feature phone instead of a smartphone.

[@adabre2170]

how well does (if present) speech to text work for text messaging?

[@ScottiesTech]

I was actually shocked at how well it worked. Well, in English, anyway.

[@Shadesatx]

Are you US-based? I've been trying to find anyone who has used this on AT&T in the US. I've read conflicting reviews about whether or not it works on ATT.

[@ScottiesTech]

As far as I know, AT&T is a GSM cell network, so the phone should work fine. T-mobile should also work. The rest, no.

[@jamiwhiting4361]

Have you found anymore out about this Hero BLOB? I just decided to wing it and order this phone on eBay 😬😬😬 I have AT&T here in US.

[@Shadesatx]

@@jamiwhiting4361 nah, I ended up going with a banana phone that uses the same os, but I never figured out how to get it working.

[@schilll]

I really wanted to love KaiOS but the update for whatsapp (around version 14.00) still isn't released in the Netherlands. When i contacted support they were unable to tell me what was wrong. As soon as the update releases here I'll gladly give that flip phone a shot... Or maybe the banana haha

[@WaschyNumber1]

WhatsApp is owned by facebook and is anti security you can get, use better signal messager.

[@Jalkoth]

Excellent review I have a Android smart phone thats like 5 years out of date and it still runs great but I barely use any of the features it offers and is a bit of a brick in my pocket this is perfect for me.

[@jottka2162]

A year later the 2720 still costs nearly 100€. The 8110 only 55€. So I ordered the 8110.

[@adim882]

Where can I purchase the phone from?

[@duffvader6731]

This 2720 is a MUST BUY for me.

[@CathyDotUK]

I got the 2720 flip and the button are way bigger than I expected

[@chanmanet]

Switched from 2720 to 800 but their simple ui Navigation in the menu are so slow and laggy. :(

[@ScottiesTech]

Hmm, that's interesting. That seems to happen for a variety of people on several different KaiOS phones, but I have yet to experience it myself. I wish I would, becuz then maybe I could figure out why!

[@scottroder5516]

Could a 2720 be used as a WiFi hotspot

[@Apassionist]

Hi there, which one of these phones would allow whatsapp calls?

[@debaffleck443]

Isn't that centre button called the home key?

[@kasvinimuniandy4178]

That was a really nice explanation.

[@YouAreBreathing]

I got the Nokia 2720 Flip phone before the whole pandemic thing, and I was going to see if I can survive using this phone in 2020, but I'll postpone my experiment until later this year.

[@rachelmcgill5258]

Is this phone supported in the US? I'd like one, but I'm late to the game, and as of today, I'm not seeing it supported in the US

[@peterchristo196]

Is it true that the bigger the battery the higher the radiation? Phones such as Samsung Galaxy Note 10 Plus 4G have a battery with about 4300h.

[@ScottiesTech]

Not necessarily. It depends on the power consumption of the whole phone, and how much battery life the manufacturer wants the phone to have. Transmit power and SAR (RF Specific Absorption Rate) levels can be very low for a phone with a large battery - and vice versa.

[@shoaibmujawar1375]

Does the kaios store have a pdf reader?

[@ScottiesTech]

Oh, good question... No, apparently not. :(

[@rogernuss6862]

I evidently got a call while on a call.....and for hours got a beep/beep every ten seconds, and since this phone is so non intuitive I couldn't find any way to see what caused the beeping or how to frigging turn it off . i had to hit restart - and not sure if I could find that again.......

[@auktoriseradmorfar6533]

Thank you for a very good review!!

[@thisisbs808]

Can you use Uber and Lyft with KaiOS?

[@hypolyxa7207]

Ehhhhhhhhhh I don't understand why on earth you put Google as having anything to do with the Linux kernel. It is quite misleading hinting they are developing it. You mention that Google apps could be uninstalled but not easily, how so?? Other than all that, you really did a great review. Can you do a video on Nokia 800 Tough?

[@EL-pc8fb]

Can you use this as a hotspot?

[@ScottiesTech]

Yes

[@Marny5580]

I did watch/listen all the way through - however, too much info for me - and not enough info on how to use the damn thing! However, YOU did give me more info than 2 hours of Verizon CHAT - and I thank you. The phone is taking a very long time to charge - and I don't know if something is wrong. Again, thanks.

[@anntoinetti]

I am assuming you don't have to buy a data plan in order to use these KaiOS phones?

[@ScottiesTech]

If you have no data plan, then the internety stuff just won't work - like web browsing and WhatsApp and e-mail and all that. Otherwise, it should work great for normal phone + SMS stuff.

[@anntoinetti]

@@ScottiesTech Thank you!

[@kasvinimuniandy4178]

If I could navigate the home screen with the keypad, I'd be back to my old Nokia brick phone days... Hehhehe.... Gosh I miss two-handed navigation. And typing with the keypad!! Without looking...

[@Zee123Hammer]

Well I bought the phone for the same reasons on the video. Unfortunately the operating system kept crashing. It was very slow. I kept getting messages saying kaiOS has crashed. I don't think it's a phone problem, it's definitely a software problem. The idea of kaiOS is great but I think they really need to be testing their phones out before selling them. I can't recommend kaiOS.

[@ScottiesTech]

You're not the first person to have that problem. It's strange, because I'm on my second KaiOS phone now and they've both been rock solid. What the problem is, I agree that they need to get it fixed ASAP!

[@aaronksnell]

Where can you purchase these? I can't seem to find where to purchase?

[@JesusChristIsLord__]

Look on eBay and Amazon. I did a search and they came right up.

[@nonipaskucz8977]

Does the WhatsApp have access to Drive to download my messages from the back up if I switch over?

[@Andybyduo]

Can you install Pandora on this phone?

[@y4lnux]

I love my red 2720, but I want to customize it further

[@nightanddayphotography1228]

Hey love your take on this phone, and "dumbphones" in general. Great vid! I'm thinking of moving to this phone, but I can't seem to find the answer to one question anywhere... can this phone 2-way sync my contacts, email, and CALENDAR to my outlook.com account? All I could find online are statements saying it doesn't work in 2018, but this is 2020, and I'm sure progress has been made. Any idea? Thank you so much!

[@ScottiesTech]

No, I'm afraid it can't do that.

[@JohnDought]

How long does the battery last?

[@Marny5580]

Edit: I will have to shorten my fingernails for the Nokia 2720 V. Not a problem - the problems are that I can't figure out how to use all the new gadgets! TY!

[@MatthewHilbertsBaritone]

the D pad, the cursor control unit.

[@EL-pc8fb]

Still not available in the US( April, 2020) Can you see KZbin videos on this phone ?

[@ScottiesTech]

Yes, you can watch YT vids on it.

[@mikeharrington5593]

Security? Does KaiOS load only secure web pages?