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To most tourists, investors, and entrepreneurs alike, living in Europe can feel like a dream. Including or excluding Schengen countries, there are countless countries in Eastern Europe that are worth checking out.
Countries like Portugal, Latvia, and Bulgaria give off so much appeal when it comes to their taxation policies, the lifestyle they offer, and everyday life. The comprehensive appeal stirs a great desire for people to want to live there.
But can you actually get an EU citizenship? Which countries offer the easiest path to obtain an EU citizenship? Having a European passport is not merely about owning the passport. It’s a way for you to set up and incorporate your own business in the region without having to pay hefty taxes for non-citizens.
In this video, Andrew shares some of the best European citizenships to obtain.
00:00 Start
0:16 The Best European Citizenships
1:36 Citizenship By Descent
2:26 How to Apply for Portuguese Citizenship
3:35 Moving to Italy
5:30 Moving to Europe
6:00 Taxes in Europe
8:06 Living in Ireland
9:19 Bulgarian Citizenship
10:17 Maltese Citizenship
10:34 Cypriot Passport
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[@nomadcapitalist]

Which European country is your least favorite?

[@ashutak]

Italy and Germany, i worked for 3 years in an Italian bank here in India, my friends used to travel on Business visa, two times there were incidents of racism and fight, where they escaped with minor injuries. Germany the weather is depressing, you feel alone and lost due to language barrier.

[@rubensnogueira5838]

If we are talking strictly about passport quality, then Bulgaria and Romenia. The "better quality" EU passports open more doors.

[@nfvjgrofgjvoldlkgvlo]

Sweden because of their lack of regard for their own citizens and culture is worse than the rest of Europe possibly the world.

[@woofytwoshoes7711]

No country you mentioned tops the San Francisco Bay Area. See yesterday's criteria, and my comment below. Ireland vs the Bay Area? I suppose if you hate the sun, beaches, forests, and mountains that's a good choice.

[@andrescv2665]

France, people is not nice to expats, Spain beautiful but high taxes, Germany if you don't speak german you are out

[@tylerv.g.geoffrey3500]

Don’t forget Portuguese citizenship gives you easy access to Brazilian residency and citizenship rights are reciprocated between the two countries. Portuguese citizenship gives you EU access, Schengen Zone access, and Brazilian protections when in Brazil.

[@SilVia-hs2kb]

Most people that are going to Portugal, go for safety reasons, politically stability and access to Europe. Not to access a country in south America, that has super high crime areas and high political unrest.

[@carolinavarela1572]

@@SilVia-hs2kb well 1 year in the safest part of brazil and you get your brazilian passport/ freedrom in south america.

[@sgill4833]

Sounds pretty good. I might do that. Or vice versa.

[@amirbenomar5207]

please can you explain me this ? how it works ?

[@usernotfound162]

Can you elaborate on this​@@carolinavarela1572

[@kevinj707]

I have three citizenships, Jordanian, Canadian and German, I got them all through my parents when I was a baby! I guess I am lucky!

[@SpartanLawyer]

You have no idea, man. I’m only from the US and grew up with only one language. Going to learn Hungarian so my future kids can have both EU and US passports

[@quovadis5908]

Thank you --- FINALLY -- someone who has it right about Ireland / UK. There have been so many people who offer "citizenship and investment advice" who say "with Brexit now UK residents in Ireland or Irish residents in UK will have problems" ---- anyone says that RUN as they don't know what they are talking about. Treaty from 1930s allows UK citizens to live and work (and vote except for President --- likely because in 1930s Ireland did not yet have President so would not be in treaty) and allows Irish Citizens to live / work / vote in UK. Predates EU, not impacted by Brexit. Andrew knows what he is talking about and is first one I've seen to get that right --- "go where you're treated best" aided by those "who have studied laws / rules / regs best"!

[@mufassilislam]

I am a UK citizen and have been living in Northern Ireland for almost two decades. I also studied in Ireland. Simple answer , being a British citizen or an Irish citizen gives a reciprocal rights to live and work in the UK/ Ireland. This is under a separate agreement between the two countries pre-existing EU Brexit . This also keeps the door open for the British citizens to keep their options open for any need to take Irish citizenship in future to avail EU rights

[@tstcikhthys]

You mean not _affected;_ Brexit has had no effect on it whatsoever.

[@Bingbangohmigollygod]

@Lean Mean Cleaning Machine I understand that British citizens do not have to give evidence of presence within Ireland for citizenship but other citizens do.

[@tdexter4959]

9:33 - "Western European countries ... have lost the plot ..." made me laugh out loud. Such a refined way to describe the catastrophe.

[@matthewlee4896]

tl;dr Portugal, Bulgaria, Ireland, Malta, Cyprus

[@speedbird8326]

Thankyou

[@jamescrenshaw5097]

I am US, my wife is Nigeria, residents of Ireland for nearly 3 1/2 years now. We definitely see advantages to remaining at least long enough to apply for citizenship in 2024.

[@pinetworkminer8377]

How high is the cost of living in Ireland? i.e. Compared to North America, UK, etc.

[@terrafirma9328]

What are the taxes like there?

[@jamescrenshaw5097]

@@terrafirma9328 Outlandish, at least as a wage-earner. They have two social contribution taxes here that, when added to the top marginal income tax rate of 40%, totaled about 48% out of my payroll distribution. They tend to offer specialized "tax reliefs" to targeted individuals for, say, working from home, gor someone renting a room out to a tenant, etc.

[@jamescrenshaw5097]

@@JP-qn4uo thanks for that input! Where do you find that average processing time?

[@conservativemovement]

Andrew have you done a video on "future freedom" passports? Places where the populace and the elected officials have a proven commitment to traditional values, support of capitalism and free markets, and freedom for their people? I'm thinking of Hungary, Brazil, Poland & c. It would be great to see a video on this from you!

[@jdon1912]

I second this

[@marceloceolin7861]

Great topic

[@jasonjonathan78]

Yes. This.

[@Mj-xc2wc]

@Pat Risberg oups you've done a good picture of USA

[@Mj-xc2wc]

@Pat Risberg I'm afraid ESG is another nice acronym resulting from a cosmetic operation to continue to exploit the people and resources of the world with no concerns other than profitability...before sustainability became a "concern" for inverstor, investors were exploiting under the disguise of development, progress and democracy for the locals. People have never been a concern... but profitability. Taxes are mandatory for the SUSTAINABILITY of countries and social fabrics. But as soon countries are a bit more taxes fair you people tag them of EVIL. You carry in one hand money and in the other the bible which you have never read other wise you would learn about sharing and also that you don't carry with you the wealth when leave to heaven. p.s.; about the USA, I am not sure to share the view as I do not see the possible birth of a new paradigm, but rather a "return to the past" to embrace old models.

[@jeremybarlow2291]

The percentage of Dutch and Swedish citizens who are fluent English speakers is fairly considerable.

[@ilsevanheerden4976]

Interesting that you never mention Luxembourg. I got citizenship after 5 years, you only need to have lived here for 5 years and pass A2 in the Luxembourgish sprooche test. Taxes are lower than our neighbours and salaries much higher. Very tax friendly for big business, not so much for smaller entrepreneurs though.

[@dylanbrown6368]

Hey, Could you make a video about which passport you recommend if someone only has a European passport?

[@swiatlojest9136]

just received my polish passport after 10 years. Lot of taxes and money paid to the country though. Its like i have bought it indirectly

[@hasse102]

I'm so happy with my Finnish passport as it gives me visafree access to 157 countries, only German and Swedish passport are stronger, 158 countries.

[@hasse102]

@@BadboyMax1986 Don't know then but I used to official list that come out earlier this year.

[@jeremybarlow2291]

I am improving the limited Spanish I learned in high school & teaching myself Portuguese now because Spanish gives you a lot of places to move and Portuguese because it's the EU residency & citizenship that is attainable by the largest number of people because of the variety of residency visas and permits. Portugal also has some beneficial tax treaties for an American living there especially in regards to social security taxes and benefits.

[@SilVia-hs2kb]

Make sure you learn European Portuguese if going to live in Portugal.

[@2cartalkers]

For US citizens seeking Italian citizenship by descent (jure sanguinis) it could be a long and arduous task. As an example, the wait time to get an appointment with the Italian consulate in the San Francisco area is 3 years out. This is due to covid. Then one must add up to another year to complete the process. The quickest way is to move to Italy, get a permesso di soggiorno (permission to stay) and then apply for citizenship; it can be done in about a year. Remember: nothing moves fast in Italy and you may still face slow roadblocks. Patience is needed.

[@carlitoab]

Without doubt Irish because it gives access to the UK too

[@matchingbirthdays4happiness]

Interesting, this is something I’ve wondered about…

[@tomsmith5584]

The Portuguese language requirement is at the A2 (high beginner) level. For example, one of the sample questions I saw was they gave you a sample apartment rental advertisement and they ask you questions about it.

[@sawedtdhipongsparta8022]

Apply for Portuguese citizenship by marriage need to test Take the Portuguese citizenship test?

[@marcelclaassen9478]

Citizenship through marriage for Portugal no longer requires the language element.

[@diegoyanesholtz212]

What if you lived in for 14 years Brazil and have Brazilian citizenship? I speak portuguese fluently. I know Spain also require do this get citizenship.

[@asparrow9876]

@@diegoyanesholtz212 can't see why they would deny you, if anything they might be more proud that you lived so long in a Portuguese legacy nation.

[@diegoyanesholtz212]

@@asparrow9876 i do have US citizenship too. Probably they won't unfortinatily my grandmother didn't go after her portugueses citizenship neighter did my grandfather go after his spainish citizenship. If one of done animal that, the whole family would have one or two EU passport(s). I just disagree that expat should be treated the way they are treated.

[@muckwa10]

Do you visit the USA after renouncing with other passports you hold?

[@micomarinas2753]

are there still cbi program in bulgaria & ireland & cyprus? I hope in the future moldova will open its cbi program again?

[@celest8boom]

Can you talk About palma di Maiorca and Turchia ?

[@omarbeji9949]

I wish I had the chance to get a second passport but it all seems so complicated unless you are wealthy or descendent of others nationalities. I'm a Dominican passport holder and it is so ridiculously hard to even get a visitor visa to another country. It's a whole sense of lack of freedom and unluckiness of being born here.

[@charlzincharge2281]

I'm born in the usa but also have uk passport thru my dad. Thank god!

[@yerlocalpeanutdealer795]

UK left the EU.

[@TkSebastian]

Can you do a video about best south american one ...

[@Gibberish1983]

Any South American passport will give you access to live and work in the Mercosur-area (so all of South America except Venezuela obviously)

[@Princess_n_TheDuke]

I thank my grandparents for being born in ireland

[@Clarc115]

Is it that easy if you can trace and avail yourself benefits from your grandparents citizenship?

[@MrCatlover]

We face soon the possiblity of being told you cannot leave your country, and then also you cannot leave your house. So a big question is: Should you stay in the country you are in, or go to another country while you still can. That is no longer an easy question. Rumours say more countries can close down already in late July, and that the whole world can be closed down within November this year.

[@nourmohammad9903]

Good evening. I am looking for low investment EU or non Eu? Which country can I get or move?

[@cathihargaden1608]

Thanks mum and dad for my Irish ☘️ passport 😎

[@MA-wm9vr]

wow, good for you an irish citizen...

[@immobukarest9077]

Hi Andrew, I was wondering how come you never mentioned the Romanian citizenship as an alternative to the high taxes of Western Europe? I know that you mentioned Bulgaria and Serbia several times and you had a number of episodes covering investments in these countries but the country right next to them, which also happens to have very similar regulations and taxes, Romania, is never mentioned at all, like it wouldn't even exist.

[@terrafirma9328]

Are you from Romania?

[@aleksandrapetkovskaa]

I know it may not be a great tax incentive country but I'd love to see croatia covered !! Lifestyle for me is incomparable to other places.

[@nfvjgrofgjvoldlkgvlo]

what makes the lifestyle so good? Id love to visit

[@christopherhouse7937]

@@nfvjgrofgjvoldlkgvlo What is so great about the lifestyle compared to Tbilisi, Georgia!🇬🇪

[@grassytramtracks]

Croatia makes you give up your old citizenship if you naturalize

[@guilhermesalesferreiradaco2934]

Funny that my country doesn't descrininate based on country of origin but rather based on country of destination

[@amirbenomar5207]

i'm italian and i went throough the process of naturalization and let me tell you something: Getting italian citizenship is not a joke ! is probabbly one of the most difficult in the world to get ! on paper it takes you 10 year of non stop residence in italy + 3 years for the application and you should be present in the territory during this time. There is also requirements very strict like knowing the language , perfect clean criminal records , perfect tax payments etc etc. Italian passport you wont get it unless you really become italian for fact in my own case took almost 17 years for the whole process

[@nomadcapitalist]

That's why we offer our services - to make the process much easier for people like you.

[@zvezdenahboettger717]

How about a South African? Have you worked with a South African before? And what are the options for us?

[@davidbochmann5811]

So once again I have not gone back and watched all your videos. But just in talking to people that I know who are traveling I would be very interested in seeing some stuff on your opinions of Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania. I know several people that have been traveling that area they feel it’s fairly cheap to live there they used to think the people were very friendly. But with Russia starting the war and things being so aggressive in their minds and it may just be their thinking or it may be true they feel like as Americans they’re being singled out and there’s been a lot of negative comments and negative attitude towards them in that part of the country. I would be real interested in seeing some stuff about how you feel about those countries for investment and for visiting both. And I know you have a lot of connections to Georgia which It seams has basically been taken back over by Russia politically now so I don’t know how much your thoughts on Georgia have changed over some of the videos you put out a couple years ago.

[@tstcikhthys]

Great video; something that I've been thinking about for a while. BTW, the "laissez" in _laissez-fair_ is pronounced "lay-say", not "lah-say". Also, _boutique_ is pronounced "boo-teek", not "boh-teek".

[@timlinator]

I have Irish & Italian citizenship by decent.

[@Gibberish1983]

My combination Dutch + Colombian passports works great for me. Besides the option of living in all the EU-countries, I can also live and work in Brazil, Argentina, Ecuador, Paraguay, Uruguay, Peru, Bolivia and Chile thanks to Mercosur. Plus the added “bonus of not requiring a visa to enter Russia 😜

[@vinih732]

A south american citizenship plus an EU citizenship is a great combination. You can live in many different countries

[@guilhermesalesferreiradaco2934]

Watch out for Germany, it's one of those countries that could well impose citizenship based taxation

[@Gibberish1983]

@@guilhermesalesferreiradaco2934 Dutch passport means from The Netherlands, not Germany

[@Gibberish1983]

@Marc M but can you speak Spanish, German, English, Dutch, Italian and some French and Portuguese? I can 😎

[@guilhermesalesferreiradaco2934]

@@Gibberish1983 shit my bad, got braindead here for a second

[@sciandsci-fi1723]

Any word about Polish citizenship?

[@jeremybarlow2291]

Ireland is a great citizenship, unless you want to take advantage of Ireland's non-domiciled tax system, then it's not a great idea.

[@The805268]

I have 90,000,000 euros in my possession, where is the best place to invest with the option of purchasing a European passport?

[@elsbells8545]

Bulgaria is fine to live......

[@kalyanchakravarthymuvvala8022]

Ireland doesnot pays more compared to US...inclusive taxes..

[@RC94332]

Move to Nevada

[@yerlocalpeanutdealer795]

Shit hole

[@ashutak]

How good is Irish citizenship, I am joining microsoft Ireland research on High critically skilled visa, which gives citizenship in 5 years atleast for now. I owe a lot of my migration from India to you. Really like your videos, more power to you brother. I don't see much of the gun culture, there may be some small instances of racism, but i look like italian so i am not worried a great deal about racism there.

[@aarrynz9721]

Lol curry

[@ashutak]

​@@aarrynz9721 Bloody Troll !

[@ashutak]

I hate curries though, working hard for 6 packs.

[@cjhsshjc4959]

@@ashutak l don't believe you have ever had bunny chow. Curries are the best especially Durban curries in South Africa. Curries are good for bulking

[@ashutak]

@@cjhsshjc4959 I see… thanks for the info. Appreciate it!

[@tonyahlqvist8893]

The Finnish passport together German one has most visa free travel in Europe (3rd in the world). But Finnish passport gives you almost all rights (excluding voting ect.) in all 5 Nordic Countries. It's more than EU citizens have if they move to another EU country.

[@SergeLabelle]

What about Hungary?

[@jeremybarlow2291]

Hungary is very nationalistic, very opposed to immigrants, and has imposed citizenship based taxation on non-resident citizens in the last decade.

[@urbanphoenix369]

Does a criminal record affect you getting residence or citizenship Andrew?

[@slovene1987]

A criminal record with convictions can be a problem. A criminal record in general may or may not be an obstacle. It's up to the officials.

[@urbanphoenix369]

@@slovene1987 yeah with conviction. The crazy thing is if your an EU citizen it don't matter

[@jeremybarlow2291]

It may or may not, I mean Roger Ver has spoken about his federal conviction for unlawfully selling explosives, ie fireworks, and he obtained St. Kitts citizenship & a Japanese residency permit despite the conviction.

[@tomsmith5584]

It can be depending on what it was for and how long ago it was.

[@tomoconnell2858]

Andrew, you hit the nail on the head. In the US, if you’re not satisfied in one state, you can just move to another. I’m happy in Florida. We don’t have State income tax. Current Governor resists agendas from the left. That said, you provide a lot to think about if things change here. Thanks.

[@internationaljohngalt5870]

Talk about the CPLP, Portuguese speaking countries have freedom of movement now

[@carolinavarela1572]

No. Only a special visa CPLP visa was created but you need a visa you can not just show up . Imagine freedrom of movement. Everyone would come. If you are from Angola let s say and they give you a way into europe freely of course you will take it for a matter of survival. Portugal has 10 million. Want to explain portuguese citizens how there are not enough schools for kids because millions of african kids came 290 million people live in CPLP countries 10 in portugal.... The gorvenment would collapse in one month or impose quotas.

[@carolinavarela1572]

if there was absolute freedrom of movement I would only see africans and brazilians in my country. Living in tents because there are not enough housing. Nonetheless yes there will be CPLP visa. But it s a visa.

[@internationaljohngalt5870]

@@carolinavarela1572 my mistake thanks

[@edbarnard7157]

What happened to PORTUGAL IS DEAD ??????

[@bojanamir1988]

JUST ALBANIA 🇦🇱

[@jirrove]

not even in EU bro..

[@ernestomaserati9417]

I just have an ordinary income but I like your videos nevertheless, also because of your attitude. And I like the sentence "go where you are treated best". One of the reasons why I applied for a Serbian passport is that this country of my parents was by far not as authoritarian like Germany during the pandemic, where the country wanted to criminalize bodily autonomy regarding vaccination. That opened my eyes and I am not so much interested anymore in the German citizenship or living there again with a brainwashed population by state TV channels like ARD and ZDF and corporate news companies. I might apply for a Swiss citizenship additionally, which is a less authoritarian country than Germany in my experience. I find it interesting that the former fascist countries, Germany, Austria and Italy were so authoritarian during the pandemic.

[@stephenfarrugia2737]

My Malta comment has vanished because the best is hidden.

[@aarrynz9721]

This guy never satisfied with any country 💀

[@rubensnogueira5838]

Irish citizenship has one caveat: you can't voluntarily acquire further citizenship (except through marriage). Source: Irish Nationality and Citizenship Act 1956, Section 19 (e)

[@garycroft8213]

You can naturalise after living there for 5 years though.

[@rubensnogueira5838]

@@garycroft8213 yes. What I mean is: if you have two citizenships, including the Irish one, you cannot get a third one, otherwise your Irish citizenship will be revoked.

[@sweethibiscus2514]

@@rubensnogueira5838 Really??? So how would Ireland know I have obtained a third citizenship??

[@rubensnogueira5838]

@@sweethibiscus2514 good question

[@carolinavarela1572]

maybe they don t take that seriously

[@mufassilislam]

Talk about options . Probably nobody amongst the commentators here is more confused than I am at 55. I am a British citizen. My youngest son is British and the eldest son is American. I have Bangladeshi citizenship as well. My mother and other siblings are American citizens. I worked in the US for sometime. My present wife is Canadian and my step children are Canadians. Lived and worked in Ireland for sometime. I also lived in Australia for sometime. I am considering settling in the US simply because of being able to choose amongst many states if not happy in one. Canada is mostly empty and the weather can be good to worst. Australian weather is great but that great weather is limited to only a few areas. But I did find.

[@mariecameron9592]

Queensland the best weather. Love from Australia

[@anhnguyenhong8770]

Vacation would be later. It is time for our kids to go to the schools in Frankfurt. It is too late. Right now. Go home Frankdurt.

[@vernaaustin6345]

Adolescent girls

[@rackin9594]

Why these countries though? Hardly the best European countries. What about Switzerland, Finland etc..?

[@jasonjonathan78]

Where is the best place that values personal freedom for the unvaxxed to move?

[@jeremybarlow2291]

The US because the rest of the world does not want people with limited intelligence.

[@jasonjonathan78]

@@jeremybarlow2291 sheep baaabaaaa

[@8675-__]

Antarctica? Is this a trick question?

[@jasonjonathan78]

@@8675-__ gee Ann thanks for that insight. Really helpful. And oh, enjoy your endless boosters and Vaccine-induced AIDS. Cheers 🥃

[@taintabird23]

The United States.

[@bsinghsidhu822]

❤️👍👍😘

[@Ken_Brz]

I‘m happy with German US citizenship

[@kmbntr]

y though? europe is in dying stage

[@NeurodivergentGuy2023]

Amazing how many people are willing to open their legs for the EUrinal and to get a passport from EUrinal, I can’t wait until I can get rid of my EUrinal passport and get a passport somewhere in a Latin American country or Asia.

[@revolution2022]

europe is finished

[@cjhsshjc4959]

Just out of interest where would you go.

[@lf1496]

@@cjhsshjc4959 The Caribbean or a developed African country, like Tanzania, Zanzibar, Kenya, . No taxes beautiful land good weather, good food.

[@mrphyz4674]

@@lf1496 facts Europe is finished their glory days are long gone. High taxation and huge immigration weakening all public services, terribly slow beurocracy and ridiculously high property prices

[@naughtydesigora]

It's not finished at all

[@andybray9791]

What til all eu countries turn into the U.S.E

[@woofytwoshoes7711]

Ireland v Bay Area Ca Ireland's forests, if they have any don't even compare Ireland's beaches absolutely don't compare Irish weather SUCKS compared to the Bay Area Name one natural wonder in Ireland that is as stunning as Yosemite as a whole, I'll wait. There are other National Parks in Ca, I wonder which one is on the level as Ireland? Perhaps a local regional park, would be my guess. The food is about the same. The pay is about the same. Winner - Bay Area CA 100% THE REIGNING, DEFENDING, UNDISPUTED CHAMPION OF THE WORLD - THE AMAZING BAY AREA CA. Andrew has decided to crack on yesterday's question, and has decided not to accept the challenge. He liked my comment yesterday and then quickly deleted that like. With that said, I'll challenge the group: Help me find a location that is better than the Bay Area. If the weather sucks (hot muggy summers, freezing winters, lack of consistent sunshine), it doesn't count.

[@taintabird23]

Ireland has fine areas of woodland, especially in Kerry and Wicklow. They are more accessible that the woods of northern California. Ireland has excellent beaches, white and sandy in Donegal, yellow and sandy on the east coast - all frequently deserted. Irish weather and Bay Area weather are not all that different, while Ireland lacks the micro-climates of the Bay Area which makes it impossible to know what to wear in that part of Northern California. Name one natural wonder in Ireland that is as stunning as Yosemite as a whole: the Burren, Killarney, Wicklow at three. All are more accessible that Yoesemite. Unlike the Bay Area, which I like very much, Ireland is not built on a fault-line and never suffers earthquakes. It also has no critters that will kill and eat you, while Irish people are more sincere and warm.

[@woofytwoshoes7711]

@@taintabird23 Looked up your first natural wonder "the burren". This is a total stretch and you've never been to Yosemite in your life. Like I said, a regional park in CA is comparable. What makes them "more accessible"? Ireland has a cool and damp climate. The amount of sunshine in the Bay Area vs Ireland isn't anywhere near the same. It's sunny in the Bay. Are you actually making a case for Irish beaches vs California Beaches? Come on... Good to hear the Irish are more sincere and warm, that's a big plus.

[@taintabird23]

@@woofytwoshoes7711 I don't know what you mean by 'a total stretch', and while I have never been to Yosemite, I know it is a beautiful place. Everywhere in Ireland is more accessible and easy to get to because the country is small. Indeed, the whole of Ireland is a beautiful place. Its can be sunny in the Bay area in one place, and foggy and cold in another. That can happen in Ireland also, but Ireland lacks the Bay Area extremes over just a few square miles. There are other plusses to Ireland that California lacks: in Ireland you can reach other European countries quickly and easily to experience their culture and cuisine, cheaply and easily. Fancy breakfast in Ireland and lunch in Venice, Paris or Stockholm? I can be easily done in Ireland.

[@woofytwoshoes7711]

@@taintabird23 Yeah. You don't know about Yosemite at all which is why you're making these comparisons. Save the West Side of SF down to Pacifica, it's sunny with great weather in most of the Bay, you're exaggerating the situation severely. Obvious you have absolutely no idea about not just Yosemite but the greater Bay Area. You googled this bit about "foggy in one place, sunny in another", that is obvious. I can't argue the proximity to Europe. Good point. Same goes for us with flying to San Diego, LA, Vegas, Seattle, Vancouver, etc. Not saying Ireland isn't beautiful but it's ridiculous to attempt to argue that Ireland has more natural beauty than California. Perhaps it's your opinion, but it's absolutely not the opinion of most, and you know it. I'm looking for somewhere better than the Bay. Ireland isn't it, for we Bay Area Californians are totally spoiled when it comes to nature and weather, unlike the Irish.

[@taintabird23]

@@woofytwoshoes7711 I've spent time in the Bay Area, and my wife is from there. She lived in Burlingame and her parents in Pacifica. You don't know about Ireland at all, which is why you are making the comparisons...including comparing San Diego and LA with Paris, Venice and Stockhom - Vancouver is the only city outside your country. Only you can explain why you are comparing California with Ireland on a video about European citizenships. In any case, it is the opinion of most that Ireland is far more beautiful than California - especially Californians. While there are beautiful places in California, indeed in every country, you will not find such variation of beauty in such a small area in California as you will in Ireland. You will not have to drive such great distances to access it. That's just a fact. You never heard of the Burren, know nothing of the Wild Atlantic Way and oddly compare LA, which is in the same state, with European cities. California is a fine place. If I was to move to the US, the Bay Area would be my choice. But comparing California to Ireland is a fools errand, it is hard to know why are you are doing it. Cheers!