My Expatriation: Two Years Later

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It's been two years since I renounced my United States citizenship. In this special presentation, I discuss some of the common misconceptions with renouncing, why renouncing isn't necessarily for everyone and some of the good and bad that I have personally experienced since renouncing.
If you stick around till the end, I also take the time to answer as many of your questions as I can.
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[@LinguistRevolutioner]

The thing I love about this channel is how genuine it is. Andrew is an extremely honest individual, and everything from his immigration tips, to his house tours, all show us his personality. American or not, this channel is top-notch.

[@nomadcapitalist]

Thank you.

[@d.2937]

So true! Andrew is honest, and genuine.

[@7saany]

Yes!!!

[@JeremyJenner]

Agreed, I'm always appreciative of how transparent he is with these topics

[@mpeugeot]

It's funny, as an American, I used to believe that we were in a "free" country when I was very young. I became very jaded when I realized that I was merely tax cattle and born into servitude without ever having the opportunity to "opt out" or even given the information needed to "opt out" if I wanted to. It's not that I dislike the United States generally or people of the United States; despite the questionable things that have been done by the government on our behalf as US citizens. It's clear that the process of changing citizenship is intentionally difficult for anyone who desires to change their citizenship. They make it difficult to leave without achieving enough escape velocity measured in cash.

[@jonathanrayne]

Beautifully stated.

[@amoszook3775]

yes

[@palnagok1720]

Do it gradually...then one day, go to canada/ mexico and leave to other places.. book a return ticket but don't return.

[@Terry-404]

This guy is living the "The Sovereign Individual"

[@travismako7612]

I thought for a second you were going to release a new iphone.

[@lonithornhill9509]

Ha Ha / Now that was funny!

[@drjacko1]

Hahhahahahahh

[@maimkim]

“Go where you’re treated best.” - Steve Jobs 2020

[@mikimiki6202]

Lol

[@yusufmohammedyahaya9806]

😂🤣

[@shakarah11]

Yes Andrew is engaging to listen . I have lived in 9 countries . I can relate to a lot of what he describes . I found this channel by chance . I like his manta “ go where you are treated well “!

[@nomadcapitalist]

Thank you, Helen. Glad to have you here.

[@nazfar6700]

@@nomadcapitalist which country would treat a person who has a disability best

[@jeffgreene5956]

Wherever I am free, that is my country.

[@nomadcapitalist]

Exactly Jeff! Well said👌

[@annbell3864]

Wow! This guy is so honest. There are two things he said that really struck a chord with me. He was living in a country where he really has no good memories. Being made fun of, having your life trifled with because you are serious and ambitious. Being called gay by strangers on the street. This is an increasingly aggressive and hostile country. This is true. It is feeling more and more like living inside an MLM and the product we are pushing and consuming is ‘Mericanism’. And you can’t get decent conversations out of the average person. I agree. And dealing with malevolent liars is a problem as well.

[@OwenGilmoreOG]

that's fucked up man. Why would anyone do that?

[@annbell3864]

@@northernstar2064 Multilevel Marketing. Like Amway or just some self help guru platform where if you just get the patter down you can create a downline out of everybody and you can be top of the pyramid. As you daydream and send in your money for sessions your life slips away as your anger grows. But nobody says a word because you don’t want to seem negative or like a loser. No route off that merry-go-round. An just for good measure, if anyone thinks you might open your mouth they might wonder if you’re gay, and that is why you seem “different.” I live in Minnesota. That’s how our cult works here.

[@amoszook3775]

I hate to say it but many of the people i've observed are saturated by socially pattern defects that run thru our nation.

[@msbeecee1]

So we'll said!!! America itself is like living in a CULT! Given the coercive & shallow nature of most people here, no wonder thoughtful people like Andrew (and myself) don't feel aligned or even welcome.

[@moa3810]

"I don't think our Identity is tied to a passport" - That says it All.

[@GoldKingsMan]

It just a piece of paper anyway.

[@ThePerimeters]

So true.

[@OwenGilmoreOG]

No, but it is tied to a culture. America qua America is dying because too many people with no ties to our culture are just after the benefits of citizenship.

[@moa3810]

@@OwenGilmoreOG Wrong

[@OwenGilmoreOG]

@@moa3810 Really....so you're going to tell me that your identity has nothing to do with the culture you grew up in. I'm gonna call bullshit on that.

[@bsebree]

Andrew, this is by far our favorite video; it sparked a lot of conversation and examination of our own motives. You’re being really prolific lately. Cheers to you and the team for a job well done.

[@nomadcapitalist]

Thank you, Bruce.

[@federalfinder]

Expat here, soon to be renounced citizen... When I lived in the US I didn't politically or culturally feel American... Now that I haven't even set foot in the USA for the past two years I DEFINITELY don't feel American. I've invited CLOSE American friends out here and have realized how culturally different we have become, and workwise I'm actually in an industry that's not even legal to sell to American citizens, so it's almost embarrassing to admit I only have a US passport. In the past two years, I've found it to be nothing, but a pain to be American... Banking and tax obligations have been a total pain in the ass. And I'm not benefiting from the US system in any way, yet I'm still held back by Uncle Sam. I've lived the go where you're treated best mantra to the fullest... and if anyone is reading these comments for motivation let me just tell you something: Three years ago I was just driving along I-95 listening to Nomad Capitalist podcast, when I first heard Andrew say "that you don't run from America, you have to run to something". It was at that point I decided exactly what I wanted to do and went from just complaining about America to actually quantifying what I wanted. Three years later, I've settled on where I want to plant my flags and I'm working on Permanent Residency now. BTW Andrew, if you're reading this... I technically live in Kampung Baru. ;-)

[@OwenGilmoreOG]

Where are your parents from? Curious why anyone growing up in the US would not "feel American".

[@msbeecee1]

​@@OwenGilmoreOG I'm born in USA and never felt I had same values as everyone else. Just like Andrew describes at 12:27 . Some people don't get the "tribal" wiring. I never related to the consumerism & shallowness of American culture. And it's only gotten worse over the 6 decades I've lived here. Targeting departure in 6 months🎉

[@danthaman5230]

Great interview. The style of this interview gives me nostalgic vibes. The black backdrop, the interviewer is rarely seen, and the microphone buzz can be heard. I dig it.

[@chrisfreeman4457]

The black backdrop reminds me of the Charlie Rose Show, which I miss.

[@aymanabdellatief1572]

Even if you renounce your citizenship and become a nomad, you still need your tribe.

[@thomasthumim7630]

He has a hottie there

[@djhouse72]

Money equals freedom, the more money you have, the more options you have.

[@nomadcapitalist]

True.

[@rontaylor5945]

Lol you work hard all your life, get rich and they slowly erode it. If john had 3 mill and paid $20 k in taxes and Dj house had 3 mill, and uncle same took 1 mill from DJ house, who is a smarter millionaire.

[@djhouse72]

@@rontaylor5945 My point is having more money gives you more choices. I am grateful for living in a country where I could work my way to some financial independence, even though a very modest one that meets my needs. I have lived in other countries where that is impossible unless you are born into an upper class family. Times are changing here as more and more people want government to distribute more resources away from the job creators. They don’t realize it’s a trap that could only lead to their own enslavement.

[@onlyprofitable324]

@@rontaylor5945 You're probably poor.

[@MrBobDug]

@@nomadcapitalist Great video mate. The points about " normal people" is majorly understated. People are becoming total ignoramus' to thier own detriment in the NA. It's sad .. you can't even explain to people that they've become completely neurotic. Re point about wearing a scarf or a nice suit. I don't even wear any of my good clothes when unless I'm travelling nor does my wife. People are just too ridiculous. Success is glorified and vilified on conflicting ends of the correct spectrum. I've had plenty of pin drop silent elevator rides when people ask me my profession and I say I'm an attorney. If thier older than me they look at me like they want to bury me in the concrete and if they are younger it feels like they want to steal my skin. Wierd analogies but things are just getting wierd here now. I just want to be a normal person who minds my business without all the wierd unnatural pseudo "Kane and Abel" social constructs

[@GeographicallyFree]

This feels like a Snowden interview.

[@d.2937]

That thought went through my mind. They could pass for brothers. Articulate, genuine, intelligent, humane. Great guys both of them, both Snowden and Andrew. 👍🏻🍀🙏🏻❤️

[@GeographicallyFree]

@@d.2937 Indeed!

[@theprodigy4202]

You would think so because of the kool aid you've been fed. You subconsciously already associate this topic/interview/this person as a betrayer As if not wanting to live or be a citizen of the US is some kind of a bad thing. And it shows how small your thinking is. #GoWhereYouAreTreatedBest

[@theprodigy4202]

@@renemarie5936 uhmm are you kidding? How about because of the consensus (of Americans anyway) that view Snowden as one who betrayed his country? And some of these same people view this guy using the same lenses practically. Simply because he believes and preaches that there happen to be more, if not even better choices outside of America

[@treycameron3882]

Snowden had his reasons...like them or not.

[@lynnybee888]

I really liked this young man’s story, listened to every word. He’s so genuine & forthright.

[@fozziedabear4782]

Watching this was very therapeutic. He actually said everything I'm feeling have felt for so long.

[@alancosens]

His description of his younger years and criticism over nonsense (gay for wearing a scarf, etc.) is very typical of the midwest. I grew up in Michigan and that's how it was. People just made less of each other as the normal way of operating. When I moved to Tennessee in my mid-20s, I realized that that is not normal.

[@nomadcapitalist]

Sorry to hear about your experience, Alan. Thanks for sharing it with us.

[@rd4871]

I would renounce tomorrow if I could. I've been to Colombia and mexico and love them more. When the US steps foot in your personal relationships I've had enough. Way to many regulations and garbage in the US.

[@laura53ize]

I’m from Colombia what do you like about Colombia?

[@lawdog369]

@@laura53ize I just moved to Colombia. Love it here.

[@rd4871]

@@thetruthpost9693 lol did I hurt your feelings snow flake?

[@neilkasher]

I personally found this a fascinating interview, thanks Andrew for your openness and honesty, very enjoyable to watch and learn more

[@MrStangdawg]

As a long time expat who has moved back to the US the last 2 years due to work I can 100% relate to this. The US is a failing democracy.

[@justjilly1966]

I don’t think that it’s a democracy, but America certainly is failing.

[@sgill4833]

More like a Shamocracy

[@JTland-sea-air]

FYI ... It actually failed in 1871- when it became a CORPORATION

[@lmcdonald1879]

best part of my covid day..knowing someone like you renounced.....I have loved and enjoyed 40+ countries..America is still home...I admire that you made the choice to end your misery...many dont..wishing you the best.......49 k views 2 years....classic

[@nomadcapitalist]

Thank you.

[@zoltan-gero]

WOW you speak from my heart! renouncing is the sameon a superfacial level but NOBODY has the right to suppress his laws onto you if you disagree, so YES, you can change or revoke your citizenship and no, it's not a part of your identity!

[@walkdontrun6578]

I lived in Italy and moved back home to the US....big mistake! I was so much happier in Italy.....natural food, loving people, surrounded by beauty and so much humor and fun in living.

[@susiestaton5544]

Can you move back?

[@edvhollywood4544]

My (friends) are so trapped in US. To them it’s normal to work 2 jobs, apologizes for when they take a vacation if they even can. But ye money helps if you move anywhere. And ability to get rid of stuff, unattachment. Try to just empty your freezer see what you don’t even know is there.

[@johngennari2899]

I never left the USA....it left me, thats why I live in Thailand now. I am the same person as 40 years ago, patriotic, love history , independent, self go getter with all the past values of the USA. I just feel more freedom here than in most cities of the USA.

[@yongy2000]

You live in a country under military junta rule with a despotic and sexually deviant king. Values? Freedom? I dare you to post a single negative tweet about the King. Come on. It's really about access to cheap living and good food which are totally valid reasons. Let's not pretend we have some higher values or that the US had some grand past values. All those Trump supporters are the embodiment of those "past values".

[@OwenGilmoreOG]

@@yongy2000 Does the King wield any real power though? I thought he was a figurehead and that respect for him was a cultural phenomenon. I could be wrong though. Fact check me on that.

[@Bluestone2611]

Andrew makes tonnes of sense, the woman interviewing him hasn’t got a clue about what he’s talking about.

[@natureexploration]

Thank you for sharing your wisdom and knowledge.

[@grantsmith6052]

I moved to another country and got homesick. I never really felt I part of the different culture even though the people were very welcoming.

[@amoszook3775]

very quickly one becomes a man/woman without a country - not accepted/comfortable in a foreign nation and never again fitting in back home.

[@susiel.4738]

I lived in 6 countries. But when I needed a world renown surgeon due to illness my insurance came through. I survived something few survive. My doctors in Europe were adamant about that. They were happy I got through it. They said "only the US offers that new chemo." And when I ran into horrible people in business the US judge was fair. The laws, the ruling was fair. I lived outside the US for 25 years. When you are at your weakest and most needy, our imperfect system is like no other. I found out the hard way. The culture doesnt suit me either, but there are subcultures, and the country is big enough for all of us. The politics are rough now. But my family told me the 1960s were far worse. There are cycles. I agree with Warren Buffet...never to bet against the US. But I do enjoy this channel and I hope everything in life you've ever dreamed of comes true for you.

[@Micloren]

It's interesting i came across your channel and this specific video at this moment in time for me. I've got a million and one business ideas written down. Every time i go through the mental process of thinking through one of them... i ALWAYS get to the point where I throw my hands up in annoyance and frustration cogitating about all the paperwork, licenses, fees, regulations, taxes, etc that i would have to deal with in the USA.

[@margyiphillips4931]

Can you do a video on public speaking? Your delivery is so cool, calm, composed, and collected.

[@metriodshine]

Great interview.

[@FlashGameReviews]

The worst thing is being a U.S. citizen that does live in the U.S. ... And is on parole or probation: almost 20 million people

[@martincuri7313]

being American means not taking shit from anyone , so in a weird way renouncing being American is probably the most American thing you can do

[@Vallaque]

True. Real Americans believe in the constitution and are disgusted by how the US has flushed so many of its values down the toilet.

[@OwenGilmoreOG]

You can renounce the citizenship without renouncing America.

[@bobbyallen4555]

@@Vallaque slavery and colonization

[@bobbyallen4555]

@@OwenGilmoreOG america is evil

[@rodrigolara6733]

I am in the USA and don't judge him specially after he has spent so much time more at home in another place. He worked hard, payed taxes and now he can live wherever he wants. If I went from Mexico to the United STates and if I came back. They would not say traitor. They would just say that I was there for better opportunity etc. If the USA wanted to attract more affluent people it would lower taxes and bring in more wealthy people to create jobs.

[@ThePerimeters]

I just heard this and wish I had heard it before boarding a plan and returning. Although I was trying to go elsewhere before the scourge. I completely understand what you said. I have felt this way since I was a teenager. I also agree that you have to find your tribe of people that are caring and would help you not necessarily financially but help you get a place to settle. Wish I had heard you several years ago when I have lots of capital but got sucked into the Obama lies and spent trying to build a business that I slowly began I realize wouldn't succeed because they didn't want small businesses to succeed. Great interview and very honest and forthcoming. I wonder how many people look up how much countries are in debt for either the IMF or external. It would be eye opening.

[@KK-sg5gl]

You can take El Salvador off that list now though! #₿

[@claucemicro1080]

Hi, I’m Mexican. I’m curious why you felt the US government didn’t want small businesses to do well. People in Mexico consider the US as a place where a business can really bloom, so that’s why I’m curious.

[@jecheesecake]

@Clauce Micro. Taxes and regulations. Us small businesses are made to feel as villains because our income is > $400k per year. Watch CN&N and latest White House communications to understand. We pay our workers a fair wage, try to provide them affordable healthcare (much more difficult since the “Affordable Healthcare Act”), and deal with the constant influx of new regulations from the government. If you are trying to come to the US as a worker, I can give numerous examples of how you can get in a union, work 40 hrs a week a year (or less if it is a trade that maximizes winter unemployment beni’s) and have more income than an individual who risks opening a small business. As a small business in the US, the politicians cater to the Walmart’s and Amazon’s. The small businesses are left to figure out survival for themselves.

[@NateB]

12:00 had me checking that “early life” section. There’s a reason you love your mom more than just the abstract idea of motherhood.

[@paulmcilroy7508]

You know? I can really relate and understand your descriptions about not fitting in. I also saw things very differently than most of the people I knew or encountered in school and in the workplace. I was never picked on but I still felt outside of the opinions and attitudes of the people I met and knew. In other words, like you I had a more worldy view of how I was meant to live my life. I sold my house and married a wonderful woman and now live in europe where I truly feel I belong. I would do it all over again but much sooner as I waited till retirement. Thank you for your honesty and candor!

[@abcdeedog]

I feel like I am the slave of the system right now in the US. The tax,health insurance, rental. ,City Fee. 😢 Costco..big cooperation company.

[@GeographicallyFree]

You are the only other person I know of besides myself who can't imagine sticking to one place.

[@GeographicallyFree]

@@renemarie5936 since he has homes all over the world, it would seem reasonable for his family to travel with him if that's what they all decided they wanted to do. My parents traveled a ton before I reached kindergarten and I was always with them.

[@johnbrian1046]

Thank you, Andrew. You were very thorough, and covered many interesting things.

[@mikimiki6202]

I grew up in Cleveland too. I didn't care about sports either, but raised super patriotic.

[@chrismovac5274]

"The unexamined life is not worth living". Wow Andrew thanks for this video. I think very few of us have done the same level of examination of our life to see what makes us unhappy or happy. Nice job communicating some very fundamental truths.

[@RJ-ri1un]

Very insightful. Thank you Andrew. Looking forward to meeting in PDC!

[@nomadcapitalist]

R J Me, too!

[@Irishdonnatarot]

GREAT answers Andrew!

[@moribundmurdoch]

I'm getting some Ango Gobloggian vibes here, and I'm loving it! Frank as an Art Collector! It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia!

[@marlajacques6947]

Yes the ‘type’ we get pigeonholed into sounds all too familiar! Libertarian, anti nationalist, wanderer, etc. Back in the day we were called Existentialists and the translation rings true for me. Very in depth interview, great stuff

[@ayrsine]

Takes courage to sit and get questioned like this

[@whatisthefuture608]

Fantastic interview, I am learning so much from your channel, and I have just bought your book, keep up the Great work.

[@EngineerDJ_Julius]

Very insightful and interesting interview

[@jonathanrayne]

This channel is just incredible! I can't wait to work with you guys. Currently building a large portfolio and getting prepared.

[@7saany]

THIS. I am just so in awe of how much this resonates with me. Thank you!

[@nomadcapitalist]

So glad!

[@gabrielanak6000]

CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU! Andrew, you are our hero

[@tanyacharbury4728]

The intense sincerity and openness here ... it's stark. I love it.

[@stevefloreani7645]

I was born in Akron and lived in Ohio until military. Always felt the same way treated similar. Felt like an alien or prisoner in my own country especially with child support issues.

[@tumarfa]

Proponents of border walls should remember that such walls can also be used to keep people in - eg. if the state believes that you owe taxes, or that you have a too low social credit score to be "allowed" to leave. The US already has the Stasi upgraded to 2019 (NSA). Do they really also want an upgraded Berlin Wall?

[@tumarfa]

@@Re3iRtH You mean just like how East Germans were allowed to fly to the West anytime they felt like it? :) :)

[@tumarfa]

​@@Re3iRtH If a state were to keep people in with a wall, then it would of course also keep people in at the airports, sea ports, and land crossings. How can you not see that? Do you seriously think that the US is a special case in this regard? It only takes the "correct" politicians to make a "free" country a tyranny. In case you haven't noticed, all Western countries are slowly heading in this direction, as politicians in general seem to lust for more power. Orwellian control and surveillance is not simply a fad going on in China and North Korea.

[@tumarfa]

@Uncle Ruckus :) True. But I'm not taking the bait. I'm running low on troll fodder.

[@tumarfa]

​@Uncle Ruckus Ok, but walking to Canada would then fall under the control of land crossings that I mentioned earlier. Of course, having such a long border with Canada makes it possible to escape by walking across somewhere in the woods, but if the state *really* wanted to keep people in, then it *could* build a wall the whole damn way, or at least have seriously heavy border patrols, or even put mine fields between a long string of watchtowers. I know it's quite a long way to all of that, but I'm merely pointing out that it *can* happen anywhere if sociopaths in power want it. Laws and constitutions are mere annoyances to these types. They all seem to have read "1984", and some of them are taking smaller or larger Orwellian steps here and there, the US not excluded.

[@tumarfa]

@Uncle Ruckus As I said, you don't necessarily need an actual wall. The US military budget is in itself extremely expensive, so where there is a will there is clearly a way. A boat at sea would be stopped by the patrolling coast guard, but one could perhaps snorkel to the Bahamas or Cuba (or around the Mexico/Canada walls) without being detected. And the Arctic escape route to Canada/Russia by dog sled over the ocean ice is of course also an option.

[@robertraudenbush8458]

While I am very much a Patriot, I admire and respect you very much. It's nice to see anyone who pursues what they feel is right for them. I would be less than honest if I didn't tell you I"m not happy with a lot of things here in the US. I have owned my own firm for 31 years now and enjoyed pretty good success. Honestly, I feel like my government couldn't care less about me other than for me to send them my quarterly estimates.

[@rfraust2000]

Great interview, thank you for sharing your honest views 🙌

[@SteveMiguel]

I'm here with 'ummm' forgot his name... (*looks at his face to remember) LOL

[@comsunjava]

Blanked on it, maybe stage fright, we've all done it. Anyway, I like the Nomad Capitalist videos and what I think is impressive here is that he talks the talk, walks the walk. He's made the break, a big step, but something he's obviously thought through carefully. But honestly, I think folks like Nomad Capitalist are on the forefront, this is the future. Companies have been doing this for years (basing in Cayman Islands, Delaware, Florida), this is an expansion of that. The U.S., and other countries, should take notice. Before, we might move to another city, another state. California in the 60s.

[@PatrickIrelandsentienti]

Good stuff Andrew, I am headed in the same direction soon.

[@ShannaTrenholm]

The US is an ill-fitting sweater :)

[@mrsiz218]

It was the 'psycho girlfriend' for me! LOL

[@dianal8387]

"Get better friends, don't surround yourself with jerks" 👏💛👏

[@ROBERTTIMCO]

My father renounced his US citizenship in 1965, he was happy to marry and become a Canadian citizen any time he went to the USA they made him uncomfortable. I am now 1 year into my 3rd country, and retirement has become a greater joy without ever looking back at my past lives in Canada and New Zealand.

[@NickDemski]

I used to have a lot of misconceptions about travel from growing up in the Midwest. Now I reap the rewards of travel every day. But it does require heaps of thought and is an emotional journey to leave the US. I'm not sure I'm ready to renounce citizenship yet, but it's very personal decision to everyone. Maybe one day I'll have enough reasons to give it up entirely. The fact that my taxes go to bombing children hurts, that's for sure. But I also hold out hope that things will change in the US. I know you think it's a waste of time to wait on politics to improve, but I guess I still have that idealism. But now that it's easier to be a nomad and countries are competing on what they offer location independent people, the reasons are building up. Thank you for clarifying what you mean by Tier A, B, and C passports, as well.

[@margyiphillips4931]

I was going to ask if you had renounced. ☺

[@NickDemski]

@@margyiphillips4931 not yet! 😅🙃

[@shotelco]

@Single Dad Nomad : I mentioned to you that my single Mom moved us out of the U.S. to Brazil when I was 8 back in the late 1960's. Looking back on it as a 'mature' (old-ass) adult now, I can see how she was conflicted with respect to the relationship between her nationality and identity in the U.S.. She didn't like how people that shared her ethnic ancestory were institutionally marginalized, discriminated against, and subjugated as less than full citizens. Then forced (drafted) to fight, kill and die in wars overseas that only benefited the moneyed class. I would submit Andrew, and your comments above, may share some of the same internal concerns. But perhaps for alternate reasons. It's so interesting as for me, probably because I grew up more "Internationally", I don't really share the same concerns. I have no emotional allegiance to any Country. By circumstance of my Mom's actions, I have 3 citizenship's. Many think these passports are some kind of badge of affluence, or a statement of Independence, but that is mostly irrelevant to me. I still us my U.S. passport almost all the time for travel. Yeah, I too dislike the 'manifest destiny' based International policies of the U.S., and detest the unjust criminal justice industrial complex, and a bunch of other aspects. But renouncing my U.S. citizenship isn't going to change any of that. Nor will such an action resolve me from any personal responsibility (other than some potential taxes) of being a caring, stellar global citizen seeking to positively help others as I can. From this perspective, I like to think I see people in a different light. I instantly recognize the tribalisim people have been conditioned to believe in. The "us vs. them" petty tribalism narrative is easily exposed when one is non-emotionally looking from the outside in. Thus, because of my particular upbringing, I surmise the burden of nationality as identity isn't much an issue for me. The beautiful thing is that I seriously doubt your daughter will bear that awful burden either because of your open minded way you are exposing her to the World.

[@NickDemski]

@@shotelco very well said and so interesting. Thank you for diving in deep there, I can't wait to see how it turns out for my little one as well. 🙏🙏

[@dr.winstonsmith]

shotelco I think it does make a difference to renounce. If the numbers reach 100,000 per year then the powers will be will notice. Would renounce the minute after I get my second passport.

[@my21monkeys]

I so understand everything your saying Andrew I’m well known in Miami , Florida and I come from a well known prominent family here and I left it all to live in Cuba . I truly understand everything your about. You go were your treated best . Keep up all the great work , you speak for all of us that live aboard .

[@glony01]

I am just now seeing this interview. I sold my home and all my possessions in March and moved out of the US and to Mexico. I was not born in the US but had been there since I was 7yrs old but I never felt I fit. I never identified myself as American although I am a citizen of the US as I don’t identify to the country I was born. I want my son to see more to the world in person than what we are expose to in the US Thanks Andrew for all the content you provide us 💗🙏

[@revtmyers1]

I enjoyed this so much and have been enjoying all the videos I have been watching you have released. I really wish I had been exposed to these ideas when I was younger and possibly could have taken advantage of it. America has changed so much since I was young, some things are better but many for the worse which overshadow even the good.

[@torycook1215]

Great information and insight.👍

[@sandrasgotvoice]

Glad to hear the "human side". I've been telling myself if it doesn't fit, don't force it. What would I be giving up? 14:00 "It's not like America is being laughed at by everybody else". Just noticed this interview was pre-Covid. Thank you for sharing.

[@karenkarinaxoxo]

Powerful interview in so many ways. Thank you.

[@richardmason1473]

Remarks at 17:05 are insightful, prescient and HILARIOUS! DONT MISS his description of the US government at 20:48...

[@joycedupuy8751]

This is wonderful. I find you so eloquent and so respectful of all perspectives. You're obviously highly intelligent but as a non American I see in you what is amazing about Americans. Your work ethic is very strong, you're honest, trustworthy and highly principled. You understand that we are responsible for our own lives. We must not abdicate responsibility to our government. You are open minded and interested in all the world's peoples. Yet you, thankfully, reject fundamental nationalism. I love how you said your motivation isnt just accumulating wealth but helping develop happy healthy lives.

[@medyatioktarina1430]

The interview...it is hilarious...Andrew has a turtle neck sweater on.... And the interviewer... wearing tight skimpy tank top & legging. Make us wonder...the room temperature must vary so much

[@summertime104]

That's like on Faux news which nobody watches anymore. The guys all wearing heavy suits, women in sleeveless dresses.

[@DD-vc8yh]

😄

[@UnorthodoxlyEsthetic]

Skimpy?

[@TheTedLassoGoldFish]

Who tf watches the news or an interview for the temperature of the room? Something is wrong with you lady. U are in the wrong place if u came here for the weather.

[@msbeecee1]

I immediately noticed the same thing 😂 the mismatch of attire was jarring

[@Wolff13]

From someone that became a US citizen, I know the drill, so when I give it up, I’ll be fine.

[@CHRISPOPTV]

I like when you talk candidly like this about wide topics

[@paulagallagher8695]

This was such a fascinating interview. I am intrigued by his sense of responsibility to his own happiness and success.

[@allenhammer7923]

Thank you great job. It was very good to hear your mind. Thank you for being frank about your life, I concur about your experiences and conclusions. You have answered many questions. What international bank does not charge for changing currencies?

[@dianasharonschenker7046]

I FEEL THE SAME WAY YOU DO ABOUT FEELING UNCOMFORTABLE IN MY OWN COUNTRY BEING AN AMERICAN. I AM 78 YEARS OLD. I AM LIVING AND AM VERY HAPPY NOW IN HERCEG NOVI, IGALO MONTENEGRO FOR ALMOST 3 YEAARS. I HAVE TRAVELED TO OVER 30 COUNTRIES. THIS IS THE 3RD COUNTRY, ISRAEL, MEXICO I HAVE IMMIGRATED TO. I ALSO FOLLOW THE RULES. I WILL OBTAIN A MONTENEGRO /PERMANENT RSIDENCY/CITIZENSHIP AFTER 5 YEARS. MY FAMILY LIVES IN VARNA, BULGARIA. MY GRANCHILDREN SPEAK 3 LANGUAGES AND HAVE AMERICAN/BULGARIAN PASSPORTS, THEIR MOTHER IS UKRAINIAN/BUGARIAN/AMRICAN. MY SOPN ONLY HAS ONE PASSPORT WOULD NOT OBTAIN A BULGARIAN PASSPORT.

[@fmagalhaes1521]

@Nomad Capitalist. Andrew how long did it take for the US State Dept. to approve your renunciation ?

[@mrsiz218]

It's a weird mentality in the US. It's like folks take YOUR decision for YOUR life so personally! Go where you're treated best makes perfect sense and those very same negative people don't even realize they are proving your point for you! Why would I want to be where this person is wishing me ill just because I don't want to live where they are anymore? It's ludicrous!

[@samualsamson2650]

Andrew comes across as a very honest individual who seems to treat others with the same honesty and respect that he wishes for himself. He shows great wisdom in surrounding himself with others that treat each other well, have a good work ethic, and also show respect for others by how they dress and carry themselves in public. That’s a great way to build a new business and it gives him a competitive advantage. I agree that one should live their lives moving forward, making the best decisions they can, and don’t waste a lot of time and energy on regrets. He seems to have created a whole new kind of business in the facilitation of global citizenship not so tied down by local politics or place of birth. “Go where you’re treated best” is a great motto that sums it up perfectly.

[@d.2937]

Love your honesty and ability to express truth.

[@KK-sg5gl]

I find it interesting that the US is rated very highly for “individualism” yet most Americans are extremely tribalistic... I’m still an American citizen and have been outcasted all my life since grade school for not siding with the majority in every aspect from racial groups, gender groups, sports, living community, etc. Absolutely everything. And the rage that some people exhibit from one group to another is astounding. Yet they can’t see past their own two eyes that they have something in common with someone of the opposing group, and a chance meeting with that person beforehand might have made them friends (and part of the same group) rather than enemies.

[@msbeecee1]

Yeah the irony is astounding abt how tribal Americans are. It's so embarrassing

[@theconfessionsofahebrewisr2975]

So happy i found this video. It has comfirmed what I feel is real and im not the alone. OMG. I agree with everything he said and feel the same....

[@willowjarquin3120]

If you renounced from your birth country and wanted to get citizenship back later, would it be a given as your birth country or do you have to go through the residency first process and work up to citizenship? I’m from Canada. Also if you renounce what happens to your bank accounts, life insurance, etc? Can you keep all of those in place?

[@mikejarrells431]

Thanks & good job!

[@redskytitan]

So what would be the procedure for you to travel to the US as someone who renounced the citizenship? Do you have to apply for a visa using one of your passports, or do you have a second passport that allows visa free travel to the US? I’d be curious how you’d be treated when going through immigration at the airport.

[@virtualshell]

I rather would live in the States than in Europe (Germany). Gras is always greener on the other site guys.

[@samnewzealand]

If you moved out of the US your spelling might improve

[@UnorthodoxlyEsthetic]

😂 u want to pay for healthcare and education ? go

[@gabrielanak6000]

Germany is much more Democratic than fucxxx USA

[@aasphaltmueller5178]

@@renemarie5936 paying for Education through property taxes is US only - nearly all other countries pay through "general" taxes and the same amount of money is spent on every pupil, no matter what area of the country. Health care : out of our health insurance contributions no shareholders or CEO bonuses need to be paid - thats a main reason it is cheaper

[@MaryOKC]

I left home because I wasn’t a natural fit. ...I understand that and the saying is true... I’m over it through forgiveness. ... this is what it means that “you can never go home.”

[@goddessalumni2355]

Andrew!! Yu are so phenomenal

[@philschiavone101]

I don’t think you understand what America first means. It is not about isolationism. It is about making enough stuff in the US not to become held hostage by other countries. The US cannot give all critical infrastructure to foreign countries. It would also be nice if we were not run by corporations.

[@kartikkay4729]

Phil Schiavone And not run by Banks. America is now only about Banks.

[@shree711]

Which citizenship(s) do you have?

[@elizabethnilsson1815]

I enjoyed to listen to you. regards, from Europe

[@janesimmons8201]

This is almost like hearing a story about why someone changed religions. It would be easier to leave behind something without connection.

[@johnaverick7468]

Why in the World would someone think he is a trader ! ? The US gives him nothing anymore ( not that they ever did ) He gives the US nothing. Sounds totally fair to me.

[@tiosaintbanks]

Great interview. I resonate 100% with what Andrew has chosen for himself. I'm totally Inspired. Thank you also to the interviewer.

[@dr.earnest.ujaama]

An honest and prudent evaluation of the United States and response to the primary question. There are many African Americans who want to leave the U.S. because of racism and three centuries of psychological trauma through false criminalization that has finally taken a toll. It is difficult to pretend you are something you are not and love something that hates you. I am close to denouncing my U.S. citizenship, but it is painful to leave behind your mother. Before my father died, he told me to leave. Not too long ago, my mother gave me her blessing and promised to visit me. Now, the next hardest step is to let go of the memories and material things. Soon, my non-American born wife and I are looking for a place to call home. I feel confident that by 2025, I will be settled in my new home with my wife and a nice house with feeling no more pain and healing from the trauma of American white-privilege violence that almost killed me, left me with PTSD, and taken the lives of both of my brothers.

[@msbeecee1]

Wow what a powerful statement. I am white American woman. The extreme racism here is enough to motivate me to renounce as soon as I can. Not to mention the shallow consumerism, the lives of quiet desperation being lived, the poisoned food supply, and the criminal "healthcare" system... 😢

[@tetsuyama5116]

T-13:38 - About HRC: If you were still in the US, if I were still in the US, we'd both be in FEMA camps. They thought she would never lose...let that sink in...

[@Danielily1]

You make the decisions that serves you best, right? Then, you made the right decision. Thank you for your honesty and your integrity. It is so rare in our world today. Keep your values. They are precious.

[@nomadcapitalist]

Thank you!

[@JackGreystoke]

Very good thank you