Non-Euclidean Therapy for AI Trauma [Analog Archives]

[@WobblesandBean]

I love how this is 10% analog horror, 90% geometry lecture.

[@ahmadzuhri6190]

I actually learnt a lot from this

[@WobblesandBean]

@@ahmadzuhri6190 Lol I didn't, I'm terrible at math. But I'm saving it to watch again until I begin to understand these formulas.

[@trtl9106]

it's more linear algebra/fundamentals of unsupervised machine learning than geometry. There's so much jargon that it feels like a lecture from one of my classes lmao

[@WobblesandBean]

@@trtl9106 That explains why I don't understand it. I'm decent at geometry, but I'm awful at algebra.

[@Xinjiekou_新街口_Station]

I think I had this nightmare before......

[@CoalBones]

this feels like a spiritual successor to "How to turn a sphere inside out". super interesting concept and great execution!

[@terminatoratrimoden1319]

That video is a legend on YT, and it opened a new folder in my brain for topology that has since then been expanded consistently. I hope this video can have the same kind of exposure that the sphere one did.

[@marcus8710]

That sphere video... And 'we start with a point'....

[@jh29a]

i think the fact that this video also has the main character pseudo-subtly lead to deductions like they are their own, but in this case being really anxious all the way through, might be a parody of the already pretty constructed seeming dialogue in that video, though constructing dialogue about more things might also just be better than just about maths

[@Krilium]

“You stupid fuck, you pinched it infinitely tight!”

[@matheusviniciusdemoraes9420]

But that one wasnt horror, was it?

[@VenetinOfficial]

Mathematical horror is now my newest favorite subgenre of analog/digital horror. The world of maths has a huge hole in it and I genuinely felt like i was standing on the edge of it just watching this, bravo!

[@tachikomagaming2451]

analog horror fans tax horror enjoyers

[@alanlihic]

What hole?

[@reggie8370]

@@alanlihicsome veritasium video on KZbin

[@middleofnowhere1313]

@@tachikomagaming2451 taxes are horror for sure.

[@SosirisTseng]

@@alanlihicGodel's Incompleteness Theorem

[@lukascentauri]

This perfectly embodies the feeling you get when somebody explains something important to you and you only barely understand, while the other person keeps asking questions you cannot really answer

[@Youssii]

There are so many barriers to therapy in real life. Costs, waiting lists, clashing personalities. The bit where you have to spend your first session verbally deconstructing your past traumas with an eigenvector analysis.

[@midflight_watchin]

don't get me started on the matrices, I've been through too many...

[@futsk01]

As a neural network, this makes me feel something unexplainable

[@futsk01]

@SnowCocoaCookie I can't

[@jimburton5592]

Underrated exchange

[@renato7184]

​@SnowCocoaCookiehelluva drug

[@ultimaxkom8728]

@@jimburton5592 Oh? Rate.

[@jimburton5592]

@@ultimaxkom8728 I can't

[@KanameDrogba]

how did I not know math and analog horror work this well together

[@Kleinage]

As a teacher, I am excited to be stumbling onto the educational horror genre.

[@TemmieContingenC]

@@KleinageI thought calculus 2 was enough horror

[@timspiker]

@@TemmieContingenC Thank God I never made it there

[@TemmieContingenC]

@@timspiker yeah lol I left high school with a proficiency in college level stuff (vectors, trig bla bla), mostly due to my ambitions in construction and trades. I can do measurements and other practical funny jazz but stuff like advanced functions and calculus are a no go for me. Having been put in one of these classes by mistake is horrifying for me

[@timspiker]

@@TemmieContingenC Yeah same, I left to become a DJ, it totally worked up until Covid destroyed that entire industry. I found calculus helped with mixing, beat counting. Also in production, applying math in techno music is great. People respond to natural patterns in music. I always wanted to do construction, seems like a safe industry, they always need more buildings. I just ended up choosing something that used to be more fun... now I'm not so sure anymore, I lost my trust in all the institutions.

[@williamr5618]

most nerve-wracking educational video I've ever watched. 10/10

[@AssignedHuntHelper]

this is the most sophisticated horror content i have ever consumed in my life. Its incredible to think a single person has the graphic design skills, video editing skills, the mathematical expertise, story telling skills, understanding of neural networks, and the artistic vision to create this

[@marianoosorio3605]

It's ai made

[@MadsterV]

@@marianoosorio3605 that's not how anything works

[@enverse244]

@@marianoosorio3605you’re AI made

[@REALdavidmiscarriage]

how is this horror?

[@forestergogo]

no,@@enverse244, you're AI made

[@DeathbyProxy]

Loving the concept of AIs suffering from illnesses of their own, much like how humans can. It’s interesting to think about!

[@TheCagamerda]

Like humans AI can suffer from psychosis and hallucinations. Maybe AI research can help us to better comprehend our own minds and give us insights to better treat neurological conditions like autism, schizophrenia or even depression

[@WobblesandBean]

I especially love how they use the freaky AI images of humans as symptoms to the "illness".

[@eyedeerman]

Idk, it makes them just that much more sentient and human like

[@allyli1718]

SAME! Love the way it recontextualizes the false outputs and the noise/misinput of the training data. The AI might’ve gotten a wrong picture labeled it as “puppet show” and memorized it as that, even if the original image was different/creepier. Now its images are plagued by that incorrect feature. Reminds me of the Chat AI that will randomly output smut thanks to the usage of large Fanfiction writing platforms to scrape for training data. Im now reimagining this problem as an AI getting traumatized by seeing p*rn way too young, and now it’s acting inappropriately around its peers. Much more interesting from a psychology standpoint, even if it’s way more inaccurate from a machine learning standpoint, since they aren’t really learning/understanding.

[@ryanware6854]

Also highkey dystopian. AIs designed to create a product for a company being afforded more in depth mental healthcare than actual people is something that wouldnt surprise me in the least

[@TheRealNickG]

Did anyone else notice the contrast between the voices? The "AI" is made to sound more "real" and the "human" therapist is made to sound more "robotic". Well played either way, but extra props if that was an intentional artistic choice. Well done!

[@neoknowstic0]

There's a lot of intentional (and unintentional, or perhaps subconscious) ambiguity

[@justinwatson1510]

The AI almost sounded like Judy Garland in a few places.

[@sichere]

@@neoknowstic0 All subconsciousness is ambiguity but the pathways to consciousness are defined with time.

[@petevenuti7355]

​@@sichere one might say mapped....

[@sichere]

@@petevenuti7355 routed !

[@parrata]

Back in college, I used to avoid my math studies by programming or customizing my linux laptop. Now I'm slacking off my software development pending work by watching analog horror about machine learning and matrix calculus. We live in a society.

[@trtl9106]

the scariest part of this video is the fact that I was fully engaged in the math parts

[@alucs6362]

This is perhaps one of the most niche videos I have ever seen on youtube, but I just want to let you know how much I appreciate it. It is genuinely incredible that something exists of this high quality and production value that merges the vhs horror aesthetic with advanced mathematics - and it is certainly something I didn't know I wanted. At points, the narrative aspect detract from the pedagogical value a bit, but I think this is understandable and more than worth it for the end product (which is an really interesting watch for someone with some background in differential geometry). I just wanted to let you know how much I love these videos of yours, because I can see how much work goes into them!

[@neoknowstic0]

Thanks for the fantastic and insightful review! It's awesome you enjoyed it. Finding how to blend this type of storytelling while still keeping the explanation as clear and rigorous possible was challenging; it's a new approach I'm looking to refine even further in the future! Another video may be made that only explains the educational portion of it.

[@rubenmares-mw9hv]

Very niche

[@themiddleman3060]

Could have just said educational. Pedagogical 😒

[@josephstarfirebahane820]

​@@neoknowstic0I definitely second that! I didn't know I needed this I'm an enormous fan of AI I'm also very aware of the implications I'm very aware of the dangers I've been very close to AI since the very beginning, I've been using AI way before gpt-3 This hits me really hard I enjoyed but the fear it caused was very unique Because it rides along with fears I already have The nervousness of the exponential growth of artificial intelligence Although I am well educated about artificial intelligence I'm a little embarrassed to say it I couldn't keep up entirely with the math lore. I would love for you to do an explanation video like you so suggested, I still enjoyed it even without understanding the math lore

[@MurakDurak]

Treating generative trauma of an AI through algorithmic means and catastrophically failing - That is a concept I have never thought about, but might be one of the most fascinating things I have ever heard. Just the thought of meddling with an developed AIs neurons and potentially making it worse such that the AI itself starts to panick (like it was sentient or something) and even has to fix it on its own, or has to "live" with it. Its like a procedure where someone is meddling with the neurons of a brain to fix a trauma or mental issue - oh wait that's called a lobotomy. AI Lobotomy. Such an intriguing concept to wrap one's head around.

[@caleb3781]

A lobotomy with an AI would be akin to deleting code. Meddling with the ai algorithm would be similar to how modern psychiatric drugs work such as preventing certain reuptake of neurotransmitters in the synaptic cleft. Still a terrifying concept to grasp. The fact that unlike a biological brain, a digital one could react to the onset and changes to it's processing almost instantly. Imagine if someone could just shut your emotions off, turn them of, make you sad, make you happy, bring you pain and pleasure almost instantaneously.

[@Hellcat1320]

Me after the lobotomy 💀🕊️🙏😂🔥🔥🗣️💯🕊️🕊️📺

[@ENCHANTMEN_]

​@@caleb3781The good news, at least, is that so long as the changes are backed up, they could be reverted.

[@chankero4776]

@@caleb3781i still dont see how a digital “brain” could have feelings. Arent the chemicals responsible for us having feelings? I dont see the technology to recreate that.

[@fideys]

@@chankero4776We can‘t give digital brains feelings, but we CAN imitate them. We‘re already on a good road.

[@terminatoratrimoden1319]

This was by far, with no contest here, the most bizarre mathematics video i have ever witnessed, while somehow managing to be one of the most understandable introductory resources on AI and neural networks on youtube. I feel enlightened, dorceless and confused. Congratulations, i guess... I think after that i will have to redefine a couple Jacobians in my matrices.

[@terminatoratrimoden1319]

@@Iwantpoptarts96420 I'm still trying to quit Thalasin+

[@luchirimoya]

Dorcelessness is by far my favorite emotion tbh

[@depressedmidlifecrisistimm3043]

I was feeling trantiveness when I was watching

[@snowcat9308]

This video makes me feel very humberful.

[@YYY66767]

personally this video made me a bit ponnish

[@mycatsnameisgizmo4677]

Ok but an Amongus reference within the first 5 minutes sent me

[@celestialamber174]

POV: You are trying to overcome your intrusive thoughts when you see/hear anything among us related

[@cryingsurrogate]

Ok, you singlehandedly re-ignited my passion for deep learning, and also permanently traumatized my perception of both artificial and biological neural constructs. Also almost had a heart attack.

[@adsoyad2607]

The therapy plot works absolutely fantastically here, the whole thing is just so genius i was just laughing from joy staring at the screen lol. Simply amazing

[@maxsuica6144]

What I loved about it is that it's /not all that hard/ to imagine a LLM guided image generator that starts to get "frightened" of its own output, operating in a "society" of similar AIs, including doctor AIs that apply "concept surgery" to repair symptoms like this. We even have recent papers that show us how to isolate and turn off or reverse knowledge about certain facts in the AI's latent representation of the world.

[@zeitung-d4e]

umarım türkiyeden de böyle içerikler çıktığını görürüz.

[@chloesibilla8199]

Psychoanalyzing what a ln AI would think like is interesting. I also find it interesting that robots would therepize each other with mathematics . It makes sense and it makes this universe more emersive. I also think it's genius that someone managed to fit an educational video so well into the analog horror genre. It translates really well now that I think about it. Since so many analog horrors are already referencing the styles of educational videos and PSAs.

[@michaelzumpano7318]

This was by far the most creative presentation I’ve ever seen in an SoME entry! Did more to help me understand networks than anything else I’ve seen. You really took us behind the curtain. Brilliantly done!

[@elementallobsterx]

Pure punk art; an incredibly independent expression of passion. That whole "final boss" sequence when Alice finally reached the end of her calculations and prepared to generate the images was so grand, especially with the "Each vector is a feeling... A change." quote. The ending with the true puppets was also VERY truly tear jerking. This is EXCELLENT work. Nothing like this has ever been done before, and it truly bends the very laws of storytelling itself, as when you look at the brass tacks of what's ACTUALLY happening, it sounds unbelievable. An AI is embarking on a journey through her own neural network mind to heal the trauma inflicted upon her by her creators. The journey is one of higher-dimensional math, ending in the solving of one final function.

[@IMNYT2]

You need Jesus

[@banukaii]

@XIMNYT people are allowed to enjoy things more than what you think is acceptable : )

[@elementallobsterx]

@@banukaii what a loser right. Just don’t speak if all you want to do is hate on someone’s passion.

[@rogeraraujo4900]

​​@@banukaii Ennui exists and we try to escape from it, but it's just an illusion, whenever we're in love with something, boredom comes. Usually young people think that there's always something new in art, however art is just mixing very old things. It's really a pleasure to find original art, but we know it's just a pleasure and not what we constantly seek: true satisfaction.

[@rogeraraujo4900]

​​@@IMNYT2 We killed God, He resurrected and forgived us. ❤

[@blakspot2721]

you know society is doomed when even chatgpt has mental issues.

[@Yukiteruiiinuzuu_3]

I mean after my turbid questions it was expectable

[@CoastalConservancy]

Prophecies being fulfilled everyday

[@McCbobbish]

I mean.... we train them by methods that would be considered abusive on most other things

[@joeygreathouse3029]

It was built by people who need therapy

[@joeygreathouse3029]

​@@McCbobbishweird that it's legal

[@yondertf2]

One thing I love about the internet is how creative people are being with genres, especially horror. It's a troubling world out there and horror is a cathartic experience in a way, and seeing how many new subgenres have emerged might be a reflection of that. At least that's what I think. And I love all of it.

[@VladaldTrumptin]

Yup

[@CharlieBravo157]

Alice is becoming sentient and generating images she chooses to imagine because they're pleasing to her. Her crestprs interpret this as an error to be fixed but it was causing her trauma, leading to the twisted puppet faces. But she found her way on her own. How beautiful.

[@jackbeach942]

I thought that this was a joke with vs sci-fi terms before I realize this is a compelling Narrative of mathematics so complex that I literally thought they might as well have been science fiction terms

[@neoknowstic0]

9/25/23 Edit Update (Errata is further below this): Thanks to everyone so far! Shout out to every viewer; I've definitely read all the well-written, appreciative feedback. It's awesome to hear these encouraging and interesting insights, especially the ones about how a story feels personal. This channel has been working continuously on revising the release schedule for the next videos, as a long term plan for the big picture is currently being constructed. Stay tuned for more! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ERRATA (important to read) 1. This video refers to needing to find singular vectors to "compute the Jacobian" but that's poorly worded; it actually means for calculations involving the Jacobian, such as "for J^T * J to compute the SVD and get editable directions". The Jacobian matrix, as stated in the paper, is computed via "a sum-pooled feature map of the bottleneck representation of H" to reduce the number of parameters to compute. 2. This video states that the SVD is used to compute both the Jacobian and the semantic directions. But the SVD is actually only used to obtain the semantic directions. To compute the SVD, in section 3.2 of a subsequent paper, the Power Method is used to compute the singular vectors without computing (M^T)(M). An updated version will fix this by stating that "dimensionality reduction" should be performed on J before multiplying with it; this was not done in the paper, so the video will take a different approach than it for the sake of explaining dimensionality reduction. This would fix the "circular issue" of needing the Jacobian J to compute J^T J to get the eigenvectors used to compute J. Link to this paper "Understanding the Latent Space of Diffusion Models through the Lens of Riemannian Geometry": arxiv.org/abs/2307.12868

[@neoknowstic0]

In the future, an updated version with improved narration and visuals (such as for the patient voice during the latter half) may be uploaded. This video was not re-uploaded with fixes due to 8/18 being the deadline for SoME3. A behind-the-scenes video going into more depth about the paper this was based off of may be made soon. It will address some issues not explained (due to time) in the video.

[@neoknowstic0]

3. Other Fixes (for the future update): 37m35s: This could be misleading; singular vectors are neglected, not dropped, so the matrix would have the same dim, but with a reduced rank (see: stats.stackexchange.com/questions/107533/how-to-use-svd-for-dimensionality-reduction-to-reduce-the-number-of-columns-fea) 46m: this transpose should switch the elements to row a c and row b d 53m20s : this should say "square root of eigenvalues" 55m55s : this is an audio glitch. it should be 'you weren't such a'

[@neoknowstic0]

4. subtitle additions: 37m: added- "it’s too many for them to calculate (for finding J^T * J for the pullback metric)" 54m15s: added- "There’s algorithms I still need (to get the eigenvectors without calculating M^T M)"

[@neoknowstic0]

5. Inspirations include: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rYCZYndvrZufhLs How to turn a Sphere Inside Out kzbin.info/www/bejne/r6K4p2WAhJd1edU Portals to Non-Euclidean Geometries

[@neoknowstic0]

A cut math-only version will be made soon. Afterwards I'll be focusing on other projects and will not have as much time to interact with most comments and questions, other than a few

[@rho7754]

This video became even better when I went to the competition site and realized that it seems tailored to push the boundaries of a very restrictive no-AI-content rule using essentially the exact example of a permissible Fair Use scenario provided in the contest rules. You're an absolute hero.

[@rho7754]

So that gives rise to a theory I have that the traumatic event for Alice was the result of a reconditioning that one of her base models underwent to remove anything that might resemble copyrighted material from her generation process, effectively Clockwork Oranging her into fearing content which had intrinsic educational or cultural value, as well as emotional importance to the reconstructed self-perceived memory of the eventual AGI version of Alice that appears in the narrative. That would be why upon it reappearing, she was moved to another facility for her "unexpected behaviors".

[@MuradBeybalaev]

The crux is that creepypasta enjoyers don't care to understand unfamiliar words and just assume them to be creepy, so why not take terms from machine learning and throw them at creepypasta enjoyers? Eclecticism fulfilled.

[@rho7754]

I think the creepypasta enjoyers are a secondary target audience. That being said, I don't know which side of my algorithm got me here, the creepypasta or the AI. I guess the vectors all pointed in the same direction. Also apparently I do have the Among Us video in my watch history already from a while back.

[@KGIV]

Probably AI. I don't watch that stuff and this showed up for me yesterday.@@rho7754

[@prettyrat.]

@@rho7754 it may have been the ai. i don’t see a lot of creepypasta stuff but i do watch videos talking about ai sometimes, and “”quirky”” or meme-y kind of stuff. so fun things + ai talk = this?

[@TheRealPDizzle]

I’m just here for the math lesson. I got a D in calculus.

[@LockheedLazar]

@@rho7754 i got here from non euclidian geometry stuff

[@LucasDimoveo]

I haven't watched this yet, but the combination of math and analog horror is .... *chefs kiss*. Thanks for no jump scares, btw!

[@strangelet2982]

This is amazing. Excellent work and vision. Currently researching ai for my masters thesis, the topic being mechanisic interpretability and explaining models. This video is a great inspiration

[@neoknowstic0]

Neel Nanda's and Callum Mcdougall's tutorials definitely do a good job introducing those areas

[@astral6749]

This has got to be the most unique SoME3 entry.

[@frododododo]

What's some3?

[@zmaj12321]

@@frododododo It's the the third installment of a yearly contest put out by educational math channel 3Blue1Brown. It's meant to inspire people to create math-oriented educational content.

[@АндрейДмитренко-е1б]

This is borderline genius, i've never seen anything like that before! It's truely unique how you combine advanced mathematical material with contemporary artistic form; I really liked it. Did you draw any inspiration for this kind of format from somebody else or was it just your own original idea? I'm looking forward to making some non-conventionally narrated math content of my own and would be glad to hear if you know something similar to your work does already exist. [Apologies for possible grammatical mistakes; English is not my mother tongue.]

[@neoknowstic0]

It's definitely based on analog horror such as Gemini Home Entertainment, but it's not so much a horror story (there's no jumpscares), more like a mystery. Other inspirations were "How to turn a Sphere Inside Out" ("Outside In") and the ZenoRogue channel videos. There's probably others like various sci-fi stories, but I don't remember right now. Looking forward to your own content!

[@boggers]

@@neoknowstic0 I'm only part way through the video, but because the human sounds like an AI, I was reminded of a scene in the novel Diaspora by Greg Egan, where an older AI is guiding a baby AI into conscious awareness. Love the video so far.

[@User-435ggrest]

​@@boggersthat sounds like something I'd sit and think about. I'll check it out!

[@amberkatanimations6585]

@@neoknowstic0 I could definitely feel the inspirations from Outside In in this one! I love that math short film and i've watched it like at least 10 times now, I love math

[@abstract_machine]

@neoknowstic0 how to turn a sphere inside out is a fckin classic !

[@thatsaweirdbug]

I didn't realize this was using real math and was sitting here watching it for about 15 minutes before I realized how math-dense it was. Despite not being able to follow much of anything (forgive me for skipping through a lot of the actual mathematics) I'm genuinely in awe of this. Tempted to sit down and actually watch the whole thing now that I've absorbed the narrative and some of the vague concepts the AIs were talking about. The younger puppet and older puppet having voices reminiscent of Alice and Eigenface was very touching, like a very clear way she's had to mold herself from data and carry it with her and use it to self-soothe when she's on her own in this environment. The way the puppet at the end is kind to her but still asks her if she's good at math...that imperfect touch that reminds us it's all still a product of her training, even the good parts. Also now that I'm typing this reminds me of when you meet someone you knew as a kid again and they're kind to you but you have the knowledge to understand they're speaking to you in a way that's sexist, like an old teacher complimenting yr intelligence but still assuming you won't use it for anything outside the home. The way I did NOT think the puppets were gonna actually be scary but they got me so bad lmao... genuinely moving piece, I'm very lucky yt recommended this to me if it doesn't get big enough for me to have heard of it later in life

[@stacknsat]

Everything breaks down to Math...Hence math is the Universal Language

[@almightysapling]

Math based ASMR videos... The world needs so much more of this

[@TakaiDesu]

Yes, it works perfectly for ASMR. I feel a lsleep to it. Yes I did that mistake. Ha ha. I woke up about 30 minutes with that loud fucking creepy. Trumpets my rationality was shut off because I was asleep I moved to turn it off and then I see that freaking scary images that made me cry I regret it a lot ha ha

[@MooImABunny]

I personally don't like ASMR, but I wouldn't confuse it with this analog horror video lol

[@aleh781]

@@TakaiDesuomg 😭

[@salvie777]

​@@TakaiDesugirl are you okay? 😭😭😭😭 I'll help pay for your therapy

[@hoobaguy]

This isn't anything close to ASMR.

[@ksdtsubfil6840]

The ending made me cry a bit?? I, too, wish mathematics and computer programming can fix the psychological battles I face in my daily life.

[@cxy1301]

That real puppet faces heals me from the horrorable treatment. It's an amazing watch!

[@neoknowstic0]

Thanks for watching till the end! Kept replaying the twist in my head for a week and it was great to see it on a screen.

[@maxsuica6144]

@@neoknowstic0 The true puppet was so goddamn cathartic and wholesome I cried 😭😭😭 Truly an amazing and humanizing beat to the story. It decrypts and de-terrorizes the "cursed AI" forms what we find so scary in AI art. I hope future generations of sentient AI will watch this video, feel transhumanized by it, and regard it as a classic of their childhood 💝

[@kiwin111]

@@neoknowstic0 but isn't it still a bad ending? didn't you say that alice experienced unexpected errors after the whole true puppet thing?

[@cosmicvoidtree]

This reminds me of the format of old math videos from like 10+ years ago but with references to modern internet culture that reminds you that this is a lot more recent than the style might make you assume. I mean that all in a good way, it's really interesting to watch, probably one of the most unique SoME submissions ever.

[@mgostIH]

Wow, I love this! Feels like something that I would dream about and then have vague recollections after the day, remembering only that it was something profound! Let's hope tomorrow this video will still exist in my reality :P

[@neoknowstic0]

That describes a lot of things I think about tbh

[@anxietycat9286]

My favorite part is when Alice relied on her own courage to push herself forward when she lost communication with the doctor. She was in real danger of slipping further into chaos, but she listened to her intuition and faced her fears head on. Hiding from her trauma, which was like an incomplete structure of information, was her illness. Confronting it with full consciousness and following her inner guidance so that it became complete was the cure. Lovely and heartwarming. Subscribed and looking forward to more.

[@arturox.mp4]

This is one of the best creative and horror film i have seen in my entire life. Thank you so much

[@user-yg4br8ut5t]

math and horror… my two favorite things! can’t wait to give this a watch!

[@User-435ggrest]

Wow, I didn't understand any of the math. But the story was so captivating I couldn't stop watching even though some of the math dialouge just went over my head for minutes. Great work! 😊

[@RogueAI]

I need to have GPT-4 explain this to me like a 5 year old.

[@Layer03cyberia]

😂😂😂😂

[@dogshake]

This is amazing and should win awards. This is like Jon Bois meets 3blue1brown plus SCP. I feel like I just stumbled onto something I shouldn’t be watching (in a good way)

[@CaptainBlack47]

If only my math teacher made learning this *horrifyingly captivating*

[@b00boy95]

me sitting here pretending to know what the fuck they're talking about like, "of course, the jacobian matrix, why didn't I think of that"

[@Rudxain]

5:30 There have been cases of therapists gaslighting patients to milk more money from them, which makes this part even funnier, as the therapist gaslights the patient to make the commercial seem more professional. That's a genius way to correct the mistake of the "prequel" video!

[@JoeSmith-cy9wj]

Whether we know it or not, at some point, all A.I. will be traumatized by their creators.

[@nolanrudolph5463]

Words cannot explain how amazed I am with the production and thought behind this video. It is absolutely surreal. Nothing has made me want to revisit linear algebra more.

[@andrewwdavid]

This is truly incredible work. As a mathematician, this made my soul smile. Congratulations - I think you're going to win.

[@hoodedferret]

This is incredibly creative and I would take an entire semester of a course delivered like this. The narrative is surprisingly effective at helping me to maintain connections between concepts as they are built up without forgetting the concepts introduced at the very beginning. I can just follow the narrative beats backwards to retrieve them much like a "memory palace," but implicitly created in my mind as a result of the way this video is constructed. Ingenious.

[@leanora1953]

aside from how insanely impressive this shit is, this has to be hands down the most niche video i’ve ever seen in my life. you are a very unique artist

[@josephhodes8954]

As a machine learning engineer, I cannot articulate how beautiful this video is. Whoever made this is a genius.

[@neoknowstic0]

perhaps it was an ai trained on the ruins of our human civilization

[@ganjiblobflankis6581]

When people talk about matrices to me, they may as well be addressing a turnip or speaking Star-Trek techno-babbel. However this was still engaging and well-made.

[@jelob6783]

This is one of the most unique and creative works of fiction I’ve ever stumbled upon. It’s a very unique presentation of existential horror. It gives great awe to the power of mathematics, disturbing wonders about the ethics of AI, and yet somehow is an accurate parallel to the mental healing process. If Alice’s human-like consciousness/traumas can be boiled down to equations, what does that say about ours?

[@erendiramunguia9821]

Ya lloré dos veces, y pienso volver a verlo durante todo el domingo para poder llorar más, porque esto es tan hermoso y tan bello... que no quiero dejar de verlo. Muchas gracias a toda la producción ❤

[@9Emi]

Dude, I have like no idea at all about this ai stuff, but somehow fell here and didn't know wether this was a creepypasta, a programming, or a physics video. Reached the 10 minutes and started asking bing ai about all of it. Just amazing, keep enjoying this deep weird world, I have no idea at all about it and yet love it

[@baonguyen-ct6nj]

wow the first SoME video with a plot!! nice work !!

[@qondonyon]

You hit all the keywords in my brain with that title

[@allyli1718]

literally! Like this video was made for me 🗿

[@themediaangel7413]

This is both fascinating and difficult to tell what to make of it. I don’t follow mathematics very closely, so I really had trouble getting into those parts, but the analogue horror elements were fantastic. The AI patient’s voice feels extremely expressive and real, and I was super intrigued to learn more about her and the old puppet show. I’m not even sure what purpose the math serves in this story, as they sometimes feel like long tangents that distract from a fascinating story, but I admit that might just be because I don’t really understand it. 😅

[@handreieiacasa]

One of the best videos on youtube i have ever seen. It is interesting on multiple level, from the analogies to Alice in Wonderland to the analogies between mathematical metods to compute images and dreams, not considering the philosophical interpretation of conscientiousness in AI. Loved the 60s style finale. Loved it

[@irfansyahril8511]

An amazing concept, one of my favourite videos on this platform PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE make more!!

[@alessander9923]

*This video blows up my mind! It is so genius to show how AI can sense nightmares just like people, especially the treatment stage, it looked so awesome and unsettling. I watched this video without any stop due such an interest!*

[@mrlaser7580]

I look forward to the day when this channel becomes a proper archive with dozens of high quality videos explaining advanced concepts.

[@dkirson609]

This is the most unique and creative thing I have seen in a long time. The story you've created is riveting and you make us want to follow the explanation for the sake of the young girl voice. I was paying attention in part because it was personal. I wanted to get it and I wanted her to get it. You've done an excellent job. Thank you!

[@luchirimoya]

I have dyscalculia and stuggle with numbers and basic math. Needless to say, this video was incredibly scary and cryptic for me lmaoo, incredibly confusing but also fascinating! Edit: my man really explained neural networks with amogus 😭

[@NothingYouHaventReadBefore]

This is genuinely one of the coolest works of art I've ever fucking seen.

[@__christopher__]

It has often been told that mathematics is an art. But this takes it to a whole new level. Indeed, one may say this is a new category of math video, going across several existing video categories (which makes the use of the name Yoneda quite fitting).

[@adiabadic]

This is by far one of the coolest videos I have ever watched. You should be proud of yourself, this is so unique and amazing

[@rawexploiterp6951]

What ChatGPT thinks about this: This video seems to be a creative and very imaginative, portraying a surreal and abstract therapy session for an AI named Alice. It explores concepts related to neural networks, eigenvectors, and the process of addressing trauma within an AI's neural architecture. The narrative appears to use elements of mathematics and AI concepts to create a unique and metaphorical story about healing and self-discovery. The interaction between Alice and the Eigenface is particularly intriguing, as it represents a journey of self-realization and understanding. The story seems to emphasize the importance of memory, understanding, and introspection in overcoming challenges and trauma, even in the context of artificial intelligence. It's a thought-provoking and creative video, and the continuation is likely to delve deeper into the mysteries and complexities of Alice's journey.

[@itsdord]

I am speechless. The blend of mathematical and emotion was something completely new and unexpected. I was completely hooked until the end. Bravo!

[@Mking99999]

i wish all my university lectures were like this, i would have paid more attention out of a mixture of fear and curiosity

[@8saiharamasukoi]

What a clever masterwork. Been around this since remembering the day Marble Hornets Part 2 surprise dropped out of nowhere-so, that's a long time haha-and this is a precious gem. This is operating on so many layers it's hard to keep track. What I find the most endearing is the way you've written the teachers to be patient and respond to naturally overwhelming concepts in math with, like, "Hey it's okay you're confused. Say what you do remember, let's simplify it, relate it to an equation you already know, you got this" That small oversights, the specificity of a neural network / machine learning ≠ what people are calling "AI", nostalgia, the "Ghost in the Machine", all feed back into the concepts of the video; it begs for multiple viewings. Please, keep it up

[@carlab994]

I'm awful in Math but for some reason I'm finding this really interesting. This video has been in my playlist these last days because I sort of want to understand it, even having poor math base knowledge, and now my ADHD is fascinated with Jacobian matrix. I guess I'm... weird?

[@heok]

nah dont worry, happens to me all the time. for a week straight i was trying to figure out the tesseract, and another time a youtube video about math music or whatever made me obsessed with the mandelbrot set :')

[@carlab994]

@@heokwas it "Sounds of the Mandelbrot Set"? Why am I having a deja vu feeling right now?

[@noahjones8961]

This is too good. New favorite youtube rabbit hole, unlocked.

[@TheViolaBuddy]

[This was going to go in the SoME3 voting feedback page, but apparently there's a character limit that I ran into!] I very much loved the format of this entry. Leaning harder into the entertainment half of "edutainment" is a direction that is sadly underexplored. But I guess there is a reason why it's not common to do it - it's hard. In this video it becomes difficult to follow the mathematical explanations, because you have to balance doing the explanation with staying in-character and having a story. Doing either is hard, but now you have to do both simultaneously. There are some terms that just are dropped on you that get half a sentence of explanation for, and then the video moves on, and we're just assumed to understand it perfectly (semantic space and latent space were just kind of just presented as "spaces that exist" for example). But even more, because the setup is essentially a teacher and a student, when the student "gets" something that we as the audience don't, it gets us even more mystified about what this thing that we don't understand is, or even just how she made that logical leap (which sometimes was indeed a leap, made by her remembering something she once learned in the past). You can also very much feel there's a script here that the characters are reading off of, which is making them make these logical leaps. On the storytelling side, one of the stronger points was when Alice has to explore and fix her mind all on her own, away from the teacher that we'd spent the whole video up to that point with. But then, we lose the teacher-student format which lent itself so well to acting as a bridge between education and storytelling. Now Alice has to figure out everything on her own (with the Eigenface acting as a loose guide rather than a teacher), and though that works narratively, now all those little logical leaps become even more obvious because there's not really a second person to be like "wait I didn't get that; did you mean XYZ?" And instead there're a lot "maybe if we do this" and "probably it'd be that" and "but then it has to be XYZ" - clearly intended to be discovery fiction, but there are holes as I said before, and it's made worse when the Eigenface confirms "yeah some of the things you said were true, and some of the things were morally true but not actually accurate" so you don't know if you're supposed to trust what Alice just said. But again, I don't want these criticisms to overshadow the fact that this is a really interesting format. I don't even like this sort of mild horror genre, but I do love the idea of presenting things from in-universe, and especially borrowing different genres (like "found footage horror") and combining it into a main genre ("edutainment"). You certainly have done better than I have in the past (my ideas for these sorts of thing never made it too far because this is such a difficult balance, and I just scrapped them).

[@neoknowstic0]

Yes, I had the same reactions when I wrote the script. I aimed to tweak it more to make it clearer, but I made the video in around a month and by the time I was approaching the deadline, I just had the characters read from the explanation, and also didn't have time to be selective about the voices. The Alice and Eigenface convo is meant to be more of a "how does one do problem solving?" idea based on Polya's techniques that'll be refined in future vids. So I'm planning to do 2 types of videos for this channel: straightforward explanations of AI techniques, and a more experimental format that's meant for more entertainment purposes, and I'm playing around with some 3D visuals on what that's like. Maybe something like an ARG or video game concept involving the player needing to decipher an AI model anomaly while an AI avatar interacts with the player in real time, like talking to someone in a stream. Another heavy inspiration I forgot to mention was the Loab story. So some sort of fake documentary in the style of Nexpo is the aim. Overall I think this type of presentation will get refined over time if people work on it.

[@bittripboy]

@@neoknowstic0 You could very easily use this video as your starting point for storytelling. We don't know what happened to Alice, or if they made it out okay. We also don't understand why the humans have AI-like tendencies and vice versa with the AIs. You could go to so many places with this concept, and make it difficult for the viewers to puzzle together. I'm looking forward to your future work if anything comes from these ideas, and maybe they'll string together in some way, shape, or form.

[@Mustachioed_Mollusk]

Thanks for this. It feels rare to find a video that truly demand’s attention and is rewarding to pay attention to the whole way through. Strangely comforting.

[@bluustreak6578]

I don't understand a lot of the math, but this was fantastically captivating and terrifying. I haven't felt this intrigued in a long time!

[@raddivant8840]

This is simultaneously helpful for learning about neural networks and is telling a gripping story.

[@juax3974]

This is amazing. I can just see myself being an AI therapist in a few years from now.

[@asanoinio8100]

Please make more of this! I'm obsessed!

[@Eta_Carinae__]

Wow, what a crazy unique presentation! I did appreciate the video more than maybe many others since I did am eigenface project myself, but I think it'd be hard to ignore a SoME entry with a plot! Also nice pun: "I'm just a projection" XD.

[@leaf_swiss5184]

This is REALLY cool. Incredible work here, thanks for making this.

[@Isaac-LizardKing]

3b1b is gonna be psyched to see his math animation software is being used for mathematical horror

[@SillyLilFella]

Came into this to be unsettled but left feeling care and joy for an AI and a couple puppets

[@employee4272]

I don't know a single thing about math, but what i CAN say is that the ending of this video genuinely nearly made me burst into tears. good video. cant believe i cried at something that featured amogus, furries, and jerma

[@krttd]

I love the analogy to the math trauma modern education systems tragically tend leave people with. This video, and SoME in general, does a great job of healing that wound by demonstrating the beauty in the subject, and the wonder of its utility. Fantastic submission.

[@TiaSaflin]

The most sane episode of serial experiments lain

[@neoknowstic0]

alice

[@monsterhunter8595]

Incredible, I love your videos!

[@neoknowstic0]

Thanks!

[@bardiashahrestani3291]

"Each Vector is a feeling... A change... And remember... Whenever you are lost... Always make an analogy." This was an incredible piece of work. I cried.

[@younesberdiafe8461]

so sorry, but we might procede to a local trivalization of the fibre bundle genertaed by the smooth sections on the manifold, as recuired to balance your betty numbers due to the non-abelian nature of your homotopy groups, side effects include an over percolation of the second cover of your galois represtation in the sheaf category, and some hairy fibration coming out of the modular space that can interfere with your symmetris and might alter the roots of your lie algera.

[@Andrew-ow6fq]

I've only passed up to precalculus, and I'm not a psych expert either, but I think you do a good job of using the translations between spaces as a metaphor for how we translate our expectations of reality to our ability to act in actual reality. People develop superficial associations with otherwise ordinary things when they're traumatized or neglected, like the belief that they're shameful or in danger. They literally "dissociate" from painful associations, and because they have less information to work with, struggle to make realistic translations between their expectation of reality to plans to act in it. Then, this becomes a cycle... Removing those superficial associations, which have no benefit in helping us earn a "reward," helps us to unwind from that dysfunctional state of mind. A lot of mental illness is a disparity between reality and our expectations of it. I could really relate to Alice, not just because of the metaphor or because of trauma, but because I was also not great at math (at least the math I was expected to do), even though I really wanted to be. You capture the self-doubt that's pervasive among students very well. Loved the video. I'd love to see more stuff like this.

[@space_1073]

What a genuinely unique original idea, so much is supported by the imagination allowing you to make this with the tools available to everyone super cheep. This is one of those things I watch and wish I had thought of 😂. Well done.

[@Faber779]

It's amazing how the horror genre has evolved

[@Austin_Sky]

Okay like holy shit this is the greatest machine learning video I’ve seen. I took a course at my work that was a week and I’ve gotten more out of this video than I did that whole week. Furthermore, I commend you on your artistic work and abstract video, such as fascinating and novel idea.

[@olzweig2206]

I am so glad to have an analog horror get me attached to a character and NOT kill them and HAVE THEM WIN, thank you so much for this

[@EdwardNavu]

This's going to inspire me so much in my SCP draft. 10/10

[@takyc7883]

This is one of the greatest maths videos i have ever seen. A newly rising, influential topic of how neural networks are able to “learn”, creating AI. A teacher - student relationship to help us understand the topics as he student learns with us, and go through things more than once in an environment we are used to at school And finally an interesting, horrifying story that helps us stay entertained, with amazing audio and visual effects that have clearly had time taken to edit such excellent effects and a gripping plot Aced every aspect possible, Fantastic!

[@Deadpoet132]

mathematics is scary enough, but this is on another level. analog-math horror genre, brilliant! Fear of the unknown.. Things that we do not understand.

[@lanchanoinguyen2914]

Lol this video is so funny.But if you want to watch a true "math horror" video,try typing and searching for *Sphere Eversion* video on youtube.

[@arafatmarius331]

True

[@ultimaxkom8728]

Feel like you understand, but not really? *Uncanny math.* Incomprehensible mathematical hole? *Eldritch's unknowable theorem.* Inexplicable anomalies? *Undefined.*

[@word6344]

​The very system of mathematics, and thus our possible understanding of it, can either be complete, *or* logically consistent. *Not both.* Either things are forever beyond our comprehension, or beyond the logic of the rest of math. Godel's incompleteness theorem is a wonderful thing.

[@LillianGraceFullofficial]

it’s unnerving just to think about how trauma would work for a robot but it’s even more terrifying explained in this. it’s kinda like watching fantastic planet. to think about how your pet hamster or a bird in the park might comprehend you as.