NON-Fighting Game Spinoffs

[@TheSeventhForce]

Having a Sol inspired character in a bathhouse themed GG spinoff and not calling them Sol Bathguy might be one of the biggest missed opportunities of our time

[@glacierwolf2155]

If we ever receive a Guilty Gear-themed version of Pokémon Sleep, there needs to be a character called "Sol Bedguy."

[@Marzimus]

This is the sort of scientific inquiry I like to see from the FGC. 🔬

[@SeiryuuX]

@@glacierwolf2155 Wouldn't it just be called Bedman? ;p

[@baziworld]

i know this is kinda of backward but : Ninja Gaiden and Dead or alive series( i know, dead or alive came from NG) Tsukihime and Melty Blood series (again, MB Came from Tsukihime)

[@thalezito-4990]

​@@glacierwolf2155 we have bedman already

[@Brunobi02]

MK Shaolin Monks: Interesting you mention God of War because many of us went on to work on God of War after making this game 😆

[@baberuthless]

Oh shit I had no idea! You guys are truly legends of your craft ❤️

[@Brunobi02]

@@baberuthless Thank you, but in the end we just want to make things that are fun to play and hopefully people enjoy :)

[@Z-Mods]

@@Brunobi02 As rushed as it was, it's one of the best games to have. :^)

[@eyeguydojima7131]

Seriously though, your team made something special. I still go back and play it. In fact, its right next to my copy of God of War 2. Thanks for the memories!

[@H3K7iC]

I love and hate you guys for those spinning tower things leading up to the hades level - both games are classics, just ran through GoW recently and have been in the process of gettin' walkthroughs on my channel uploaded - can't wait to run through GoW 2/3. Not sure how I feel about the new GoW, but the OGs will always have a special place in my heart

[@ThorgisArcade]

Within the first minute I already saw a game I'd never heard of. Informative and well done video as always.

[@baberuthless]

Thanks so much Thorgi!

[@tracyndiyob162]

love that about final fight(and other capcom series as i like viewing them all in the same world just a different time periods & areas.:3) as i love the original trio,maki & especially thick diva poison and their stories in street fighter. do love street fighter has a field day making fun of 2010 just being a game with street fighter's name pasted on it especially the udon comics having kevin fight mecha akuma in a arcade game mel was playing made in ken's likeness. think a beat em up/dynasty warriors esque game(just with more characters now that they have everyone back to not be as bare.:3) of guilty gear and blazblue(the rogue like's story is that it's an alternate universe with the characters sucked into it as the original had a cosmic reset.) would be really cool to see as you play those games for their characters. think a tekken force esque spin-off would definitely work with tekken's style just with a better story than 6/more interesting characters instead of nina whose the most boring tekken character(a focus on anna williams/steve fox teaming up would be way more interesting.) do love the characters of soul calibur(taki,sophieta,cassandra,siegfried & especially ivy valentine.:3) & the stages would make for a great tekken force for it's story mode/including lloyd as it could be bigger. love snk's extras(drama cd's,4-koma,neo geo station) & with snk's new direction love to see this come back. remember that virtua quest spinoff & virtua fighter should mix with shenmue if a new game happened as it would be cool having ryo team up with the virtua fighter's. don't really think mortal kombat's stories good at all outside special intros but love the cheesy cutscenes. absolutely love kof:kyo showing so much of the king of fighters really great characters & writing that i'd really alongside a u.s release (same with rival schools school life mode.) would love the king of fighters 16 doing a mode like this/samurai showdown rpg for 16 with the characters it has now. think days of memories is so adorable letting you date snk's beautiful gals(and guys in this/it's successor kof for girls.) & would love to see it come back adding characters like alfred,especially dolores,luong,shun'ei/meitenkun,isla & darli dagger. alongside match of the millenium card fighters is my favorite of snk. vs capcom for the series used in that i'd definitely love to see in a snk vs. capcom 3(especially power stone,red earth,devil may cry and twinkle star sprites.). prefer pocket fighter over super gem fighter(do wish devilotte had been in pocket fighter.) though enjoyed it on capcom fighting collection enough especially the intermissions. actually heard more about neo geo ultimate shooter than kof sky stage but was always interested in it especially the branching paths & iroha as she's so adorable. love to try out cannon spike as i love the idea of cammy leading a team of capcom characters(that teppen actually brought back having them take on sigma.) in a shooter that could include the dolls/chun li and others. really would love another try at street fighter 2 movie game as the animated movie(favorite video game adaptation period.:3) would with it's fights & unique locations make a great fighting game playing in moments and like the good ending having the cyborg get a heart from seeing ryu's bond with ken that he kills m. bison for good.

[@yunggusto]

I like that you actually acknowledge DOA as a good fighting game series. I see hella ppl in the FGC disrespect the games & they probably never gave them a fair chance or even played them lol.

[@baberuthless]

DOA is incredible! stages and gameplay are top notch. I also don’t get that doa hate

[@Gadlight]

@@baberuthlesspeople being puritan all of the sudden, when the costumes in SF and Tekken sometimes are way more outrageous. I just blame big name (Aka. Capcom or Bamco) fanboyism.

[@sn-x-wt]

the fact that main series is rather Dead than Alive, but Xtreme is still supported as live service and making money, is outrageous

[@baziworld]

doa is really great fighting games, i loved all of games(i meant fighting games) , if anyone hate this game, so that means, POSSIBLY that guy didn't play the game at all,outside of that, he must at least acknowledge the game as something within fighting games)

[@baziworld]

​@@Gadlight exactly , SF6 Costumes is outragous tekken 8 has decent amount of customization , ok, but it also has 30$ dlc avatar and costumes, Tekken Shop , and future dlc, and full price 120 $ game (plus , in T7, there was beach DLC With unique costumes for every character....long story short, people are crazy....to blame doa, while it had so many free slots of costumes ...these people just gather in net, and laugh that, "yeah, doa's players is low, game is girl club or hair color has price or ... but doa extreme surely is totally ok!!:) (yeah, fanboying is real, i mean, T8 Is great game, i love the game, but T7 Was flawed game, full of flaws, but fighting game community was like: nah , it is tekken , it must be played , otherwise...same goes to SF5 and... )

[@Bosnerdly]

Cammy really needs her own game! She's got a great story, she's super popular, she has lots of connections to Street Fighter characters, and she brings in a huge cast of character with her Delta Red team and Shadaloo Doll sisters. There's so much potential!

[@vyperii]

She got Cannonspike on Dreamcast...

[@nickalotdegit]

She's also had her own book (like, on actual paper) so someone in charge of that mess was into merchandising the character at some point...

[@Mari_Izu]

​@@vyperiiWhich covers nothing of the things Bosnerdly mentioned, smartass.

[@emperormegaman3856]

They should make a action game of Beat'em up, about Cammy and some of the the former dolls. That would allow to flesh them out, show how they aclimate with society in their post-brainwashing life.

[@Tetjaku]

Fun fact: Soulcalibur Legends, historically speaking, takes place between the Ottoman-Habsburg War and Long Turkish War during a lull created by the Treaty of Edirne. I guess one could argue they weren't really worried about recording the records of war. Though, Hayreddin Barbarossa would have been long dead by this point, so how he's there as a giant monster 🤷‍♀

[@brevin630]

55:28 i think the reason the enemies sound like that when they die is a reference to Kamen Rider. At some point in the original show from 1971, the footsoldiers from the villain organization SHOCKER just devolved to going "EEEEEEEE!!!" And those screams in game sounded just like it

[@jakoball117]

I want netherrealm to start making mortal kombat beat em ups again

[@carlosaugusto9821]

Maybe that would be interesting to focus rather than actual fgs, that lately have been getting more criticism and controversies than before. Shaolin Monks showed the amount of potential that the franchise has in other genres. And if that direction is combined with the elaborate story modes (that almost feel like a waste of resources and energy in MK11 and MK1) i believe the result could be more interesting for the public and even commercially. The fact is that high standards and competitively solid fgs are extremely challenging to make.

[@ChipDamageMike]

Excellent video! And as someone who bought DOA Volleyball on day 1 when I was 15 (for the gameplay of course!)... the story is canon and is referenced in DOA4 in Zack's ending. This had to be a hard video to make, but it's much appreciated and the passion is obvious, keep it up!

[@GeovaneSanciniSR]

And on DOA Xtreme 3, Zack leaves you in command of the Island because he's organizing the tournament on DOA 6

[@baberuthless]

Thanks so much! 🥰

[@Shockbrawler]

I did not know that heihachi was a secret boss in that nina spin-off game xD and that shenmue was originally a virtua fighter origins story for akira. Both of those surprised me! I think out of all the games you mentioned here, mortal kombat shaolin monks still holds up as a fun game!

[@spectrumbots4268]

I see Shaolin Monks! Here's a cool thing about Battle De Paradise: If the game is on a Neo Geo Pocket Unit, a remake of Yosaku, SNK's 1979 arcade game, can be played on it.

[@GeovaneSanciniSR]

As someone with an unhealthy obsession with waifus and spent around 200 hours on DoA Xtreme 3 Scarlet, the date sim part is kinda easy. Every girl have objects (food, clothes and knick knacks) that they like and dislike, same goes for the paper wrapping, every girl had a favorite color which raises up the chance of the girl accept a present she wouldn't accept. Of course, playing in Japanese makes things extra hard, but thankfully, the game was published in english on Hong Kong =D

[@Z-Mods]

35:11 Whenever Mortal Kombat Shaolin Monks appears, I appear. And now I disappear. Have a great day. :^)

[@samfivedot]

KOF Kyo having a Spanish fan translation but NOT an English one is the most on-brand thing I've ever heard

[@DelCtrl_]

BlazBlue Entropy Effect is a fan game turned into a licensed game, that's why the stage aesthetics and music is so off from actual BB. It also gives me the vibe of being a completely unrelated game that the devs decided using BB's recognizable characters would gather more attention than a fully original game and it worked

[@toxictincan]

I'm pretty sure the developers have outright said that the game had absolutely nothing to do with Blazblue and then they hit up arcsys later lol.

[@mr.voidout4739]

Such a shame. It was fun enough for $14, but they didn't do Hakumen justice. And the whole game can be spammed with the Murakumo unit😵‍💫

[@MiloTheMightyDude]

Shoutout to Capcom Classics Collection 2 having a version of Quiz and Dragons with Capcom questions, including their fighters. It's the closest to a fighting game quiz in English.

[@The4thSnake]

DOAX is canon to the fighting games. Zack Island blowing up in a volcanic eruption at the end of X1 puts him in debt that he's trying to raise money to pay off in DOA4. I don't recall X2 being referenced in 5 or 6, and X3 is set after 6, so I'm not sure about those two.

[@baberuthless]

Wow is X3 the last doa game in the timeline right now? What a way to end 😅

[@The4thSnake]

@@baberuthless Ninja Gaiden ends at 3. DOA ends at X3. Hopefully, Rise of the Ronin is part of this world like Nioh.

[@johnlukecampbell3140]

Ryo Hazuki being in virtua fighter would’ve been the sickest shit ever.

[@Mari_Izu]

I would love if VF and Shenmue was a shared universe like Street Fighter and Final Fight.

[@FryCanon]

Looks like I'm taking my 1 hour lunch break now 😂

[@BeeLy1011]

DOA fanboy here: To answer your question, DOAX's canonicity can be described as "MOSTLY non-canon"; afaik, the only game to have direct ties to the main series is the first one, which took place between DOA3 and DOA4. It was also the first appearance of Lisa/La Mariposa, which I'd imagine made her ending in DOA4 where she's unmasked a bit of a cool reveal at the time. Other than that, Xtreme and the main series are heavily disconnected. Only other thing of note imo is that some dialogue from Tina in Venus Vacation implied that if the game were canon, it'd have to be placed after 6 since she mentions the wrestling team she started with Bass during the game's story.

[@baberuthless]

Ahh makes sense. Kind of a shame. I do wish they just made all ninja gaidens,xtremes, niohs,and fatal frames crammed into the same cannon. Since it certainly be interesting to have a doa universe like that

[@alsoviperlicious]

27:50 Gotta love those old prerenders they're *A R T* truly a moment in time although the more gratuitous ones might not be as important art xD

[@reikiradja8030]

12:43 Dynasty Warriors actually does have a little bit of a strategy elements in the Empires spin-offs and it does allow you to command the NPC allies. Granted, it's a spin-offs title but still.

[@KaneBlueriver]

With Mighty Final Fight, IIRC more than low sales, it was that it was a very low production run since it was one of the last games for the NES, in those days the last games suffered from that because most of the consumer base was assumed as migrated to the following generation, and if you check usually those late games in a console lifecycle are the ones that end up fetching super high prices nowadays for that reason, as I'm pretty sure you're familiar with a few of those games xD. I had no idea about the comprehensive details of the 96 Neo Geo Collection encyclopedia, I'll definitely need to take a look at that sometime soon!

[@baberuthless]

Makes sense it was so late, that being said I wish might FF and 2 and 3 were put in collections or released more often than once 😞 they need more time to shine

[@KaneBlueriver]

@@baberuthless FF3 is a very similar case to Mighty, being one of the late games in SNES, with a low production run and nowadays being one of the expensive games for collectors

[@BugsyFoga]

Really fascinating seeing fighting game series branch out like this, whether it’s good or bad.

[@SomeHomesickAlien]

It might sound like I'm like lying but... I actually loved the vibes of DOA Paradise. The girls are nice too through 💀

[@DogeTheTruth]

Recently discovered this channel and it’s instantly become a favorite of mine. Love the content. 🙏

[@baberuthless]

Thank you 🙏🏼❤️

[@Maxwel_Rodrigues]

Just like you mentioned Final Fight at the beginning of the video, I thought you would mention Ikari Warriors, Athena and Psycho Soldier. Athena also had a game for the PS1 called Athena: Awakening from the Ordinary Life, which was an Adventure Survival Horror similar to Enemy Zero and Clock Tower.

[@joandarc441]

Mortal Kombat shaolin monk's was a fun 3D beat em up game and the combos were satisfying to do.

[@DintheAbary]

Streetwise mention. 10/10 video

[@2Orlak]

Very nice video and retrospective! I love this type of video Informative, and going very deep into a particular sub-niche or series. You have earned a subscriber!

[@tedjomuljono3052]

The arcade fighter Asura Blade& Asura Buster has a bonkers visual novel spinoff called Zero One(and a sequel) on the GBA

[@derekfcc]

WHAT!?! Seriously? Asura Buster is awesome

[@F1ghtGam3r]

Capcom dropped the ball by not having the SF 2010 a costume for Ken in SF5

[@baberuthless]

Agreed!

[@cosmiccopy112]

Glad I found this channel been been in a mood for long vids especially fighting game ones

[@cosmiccopy112]

Man looking at this channel now this is def gonna be a fav of mine

[@snootlongbottom]

In the right place!

[@cosmiccopy112]

@@snootlongbottom fs

[@Pink_Elephants_on_Parade]

I know I'm late to the party,but absolutely love your videos. Thank you @Thorgi's arcade for suggesting this channel.

[@baberuthless]

Thank you! Also trust me your here at the perfect time ☺️

[@EGGravated]

This channel is a gem thank you fr!

[@baberuthless]

🙏🏼 sincerely appreciate it 😊

[@Seydaschu]

Skipping ahead to see if anyone else has heard about that survival horror game starting Athena from King of Fighers...

[@baberuthless]

The Athena “horror” game is not a fighting game spin off sadly but an Athena game series spin off since she had her own games that weren’t fighters first. Hence why I didn’t count it

[@Seydaschu]

@@baberuthlessAh. Still, I think it's based on her KOF appearance, she's not a Goddess like her debut. By that extension, I'd say Ralf and Clark in Metal Slug 6 are also cameos from their KOF versions (just cameos, though)

[@Greenmeanie123]

Shes not a goddess in psycho soldier either. Your thinking of the goddess athena spin off arcade game, called just Athena. Its...very confusing to be fair. But to Baberuthless's point the Ps1 athena game isnt a spin off and not really a horror game either which is a bummer@@Seydaschu

[@fikriyh555]

Fun fact:Shaolin Monks is more well known in Indonesia instead of the main series.

[@I_EAT_QUARTERS]

THE BABERUTHLESS MOVIE!!!!! takes a lot to get me away from the fucking final fantasy vii rebirth release day but here i am

[@takeshi_oyama]

Amazing work! I'm impressed the description says "Little *quickie* bout some spin offs" on such a complete and detailed video. Sounds like you could still go on for hours (or maybe a part 2?) I really liked your take on The King of Fighters Kyo. For fans of the Orochi Saga, it's a real treat to interact with the KOF cast and get to see their voice actors expand on their characters. The newer sagas could definitely use some spin-off games like this one. As for SNK/ADK's quiz games, the idea sounds good on paper, but it's a shame the questions are all about late 80's/early 90's Japanese pop culture. It's always interesting to see how fighting game characters work so well in different settings - and most of all, companies were more eager to experiment back then.

[@baberuthless]

I appreciate it! I absolutely could have gone on longer😆 Got a few more games in the holster I didn’t talk about but like you said perhaps a part 2?

[@DAv2003]

A really good look through a load of these sorts of games and how they relate to their franchises. Some really obscure stuff here that proved to be a fun look into it all.

[@zombieeightpack1381]

You have a very smooth and welcoming voice. Made the video significantly more enjoyable.

[@SirIsaacFortesque]

Now this is definitely a topic that is way more interesting than it would seem at first due to how weird studios get sometimes, it's always neat to see whatever spinoff comes out and seeing what genre it is, as for any I know about, the only one I can remember right now is that BlazBlue beat-em-up on the 3DS, Blazbloo Clonephantasma I think it was called, (I don't remember the exact spelling) and I only know about it thanks to Thorgi lol, although there is something I do want to give an honorable mention too, the Batman Forever tie-in game for the SNES and Genesis, it sort of a Sub Zero MK Mythologies situation where it has fighting game controls but it's a platformer, it even has a VS mode so it has a one up on Sub Zero, don't remember if it was an exclusive to one of those two versions though. 32:39 That face is so good. "Yeah, I c06kblocked ya mortal, what are ya gonna do about it?" (Would've also been here yesterday but was on a trip lol) Edit: Also about Dynasty Warriors, So the games in Japan are named roughly, "Shin Dynasty Muso" (Or something like that, I don't remember exactly) however the OG PS1 fighting game is named exactly the same, but it doesn't have "Shin" at the start, and considering the games are one number behind us in Japan as well, (I.e Dynasty Warriors 3 here is DW2 over there, DW4 here is DW3 there, so on and so forth) and the anniversary video for the series didn't mention the PS1 fighter, I think the DW games and the PS1 game are meant to be completely different but also kind of the same series? I don't know it's weird.

[@goldengoldy0197]

I've been subscribed to your channel for quite a while but I don't think I've ever commented here. Just wanted to say that I loooooove the content you make and I think it's very much needed in the fighting game landscape on KZbin. This was an awesome video, keep it up 😎.

[@baberuthless]

Thank you so much for sticking around with me so long!

[@NewGabeOrder]

10:01 The Japanese version of Judgment swaps out GGXX Sharp Reload for GGXX Slash, which happened to be the most recent edition of GGXX at the time. Not only that, Sharp Reload already had a standalone PSP release in Japan prior.

[@cat-lm4on]

did not expect to hear the word "fortnite" within 5 minutes of this vid LMAO in all seriousness i've always had a passion for weird single player spinoffs of fighting games so it's great to see someone going in depth with em, really hope fighting games start doing stuff like this again someday

[@baberuthless]

Let’s hope they get weird with their ips again one day

[@PixelsNcreatureS]

I actually still own everything you've talked about. I'm kinda sad that i haven't really thought about them with this much depth, excellent video

[@brigante_way]

I love The King of Fighters and they have a bunch of crazy spin off

[@HybridAngelZero]

This has reminded me how desperately I want a new SNK vs Capcom Card Fighters game. I sunk ungodly hours into the DS game and almost did a flip when they announced the NGPC version coming to Switch.

[@HansCast]

This channel deserves more subs. 👊

[@Zentyga]

Dope video 🔥

[@vampirecountingmoneyup2248]

death by degrees enjoyers rise up

[@studi0651]

Honestly stuff like this makes me happy that World Tour exists at all. It’s a great idea imo to essentially have an entirely different genre within your fighting game, and I’m glad Capcom finally got around to it. Hopefully this kind of experimentation spreads to the other big games like MK and Tekken since they kind of started this back in the ps2 era. A modern shaolin monks mode in a new MK game would be sick asf.

[@jurtheorc8117]

Right here with you. As someone whose interest in fighting games and the like started with Kya: Dark Lineage, i've been very much interested in games with fighting and adventure modes alike. Most recent game with such gameplay that i played was Clash: Artifacts of Chaos (a prequel to the Zeno Clash series) and it was a pretty fantastic time. Those two games sadly don't have multiplayer as such, even though it *was* planned at some points.

[@WaynesWorld12]

Baberuthless always brings the day up ❤

[@JuanGomez-ke5py]

57:06 why they didn't get imagine a dead or alive kart racing game with power ups in

[@baberuthless]

Now we’re talkin!

[@TMNTfever]

You know you love fighting games when you play the spinoffs! I have sadly played dozens of them lol. But I will unironically support Shaolin Monks.

[@TheWordPlay]

Virtua Quest mentioned! The game wasn't fun even as a kid, but it reintroduced me Virtua Fighter

[@barry-allenthe-flash8396]

FINALLY! A youtuber that seems to have actually _played_ Final Fight Streetwise instead of just crapping on it and parroting some opinion they heard elsewhere. I mean, don't get me wrong, the gritty "gangsta" style reboot *is terrible* but it's only an aesthetic choice; you're totally right in that the game plays well and the Arcade Mode is a big highlight (as is the more "grounded" design for Mike Haggar imo; Streetwise's version is basically Dan Severn, who's legit badass and MMA legend so I love his model in this game, lol). I never knew Cammy was in the main game though, since I spent all my time playing Arcade, lol! Gotta fire up my OG Xbox and give it another shot. Y'know, fun fact: apparently Capcom Studio 8 was working on a more traditional FF game before the call came in to make it more gritty - this "prototype" for the game that would eventually change INTO Streetwise, "Final Fight Seven Sons," actually looks pretty similar to the Arcade Mode in the final game. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bmiTfpmparWmjNU At any rate, loved this topic! You did *such* a good job - this is a great companion to GuileWinQuote's "Vs Modes in NON Fighting Games" video, which I also loved. This is such a rich & fascinating area to mine for content since fighting games and spinoffs or weird modes go hand-in-hand. With so much lore and so many fleshed-out characters, it's no WONDER they try to explore it in weird ways (personally, I'm always fascinated by action-adventure and RPG modes in fighting games. Stuff like Tobal and Tobal 2's dungeons, or the main adventure mode in TamSoft's weird lil' Power Stone looking Abalaburn. Street Fighter 6's World Tour *made me so happy,* lol). I learned of a bunch here, but if you're looking for a few more for the future, I know Atlus' Power Instinct/Goketsuji Ichizoku series has an isometric run 'n' gun game for the Saturn called Purikura Daisakusen ("Pretty Kurara Legend" I think), revolving around a popular magical girl character in the roster named Kurara. I also know of Phantom Breaker Battlegrounds, a fun beat 'em up with a Mighty Final Fight-looking chibi art style that's a spinoff of the Phantom Breaker fighters like Omnia. That's all i can think of though. This video was great!

[@baberuthless]

Thank you! With how extreme the internet is with opinions I think people forget things can be more complex than thing is the best thing ever or worst thing ever. Streetwise I definitely thinks falls in that category. Also great ideas there’s a few games left out for a part 2 someday like the rivals of aether dating sim and the eternal champions spin offs too!

[@milosmisic89]

nice very informative video - I am a big fighting game nerd so I know like 95% of games here xD but still nice to see the spotlight and so well presented

[@hemangchauhan2864]

Love this video! In that how PS1/ PS2/Wii era was experimental and devs trying new things.

[@keo_bas]

Nice to see another of your videos. I haven't watch it yet but I hope phantom breaker battle ground gets a mention.

[@baberuthless]

Shit

[@_BASIC_INSTINCT]

loved when sengoku basara went from hack and slash to a fighter. capcom and arc system works should revive this series (never gonna happen)

[@robertdanker6193]

Great video!!! Dynasty warriors did get 2 tactical RPGs on the PS2.

[@Steelmaniac17]

Y'know I never played Cannon Spike, but I can explain why the enemies are screaming that! (Potentially!) In the Japanese Tokusatsu series known as Kamen Rider, in the original series there were grunt enemies known as "Shocker Combat Men" that when they're defeated scream out an iconic and "meme before meme" was coined "Eeeeeee" sound effect! It's a huge meme in Japan and I wouldn't doubt it was a reference to the grunts

[@baberuthless]

That makes sense! I just looked up some clips where they make similar sounds and i think you nailed it. Thanks so much for shedding some light on this!

[@Steelmaniac17]

@@baberuthless Not a problem, great video too btw! Keep up the great work!

[@alexandreturcotte6411]

Guilty Gear overture gived us the Diva theme, and that's all that matters.

[@khdean121]

Bless you. Overture was defo Daisuke's magnum opus for themes.

[@GmNdWtchr96]

I know you didn't cover platfighters, but shout-outs to Lovers, Creatures, and Dungeons of Aether. Impressive for a niche indie platfighter like Rivals of Aether to get THREE Spin-offs (and a comic that fans would rather forget about, despite the canonicity).

[@baberuthless]

Damn I wish I talked about this game 🥲 I do want to talk about platform fighters someday. I don’t think that genre of fighters should be ignored

[@MAHIM2000]

New Subscriber here, Amazing video!

[@baberuthless]

ahhh i see, was mind boggled why i was struggling with that. Thank you!

[@policious]

"the game checking if you're awake" 😂😂

[@shadowmaksim]

While not spin-offs per-se, so they might not count for this video as you said, there are two other examples that come to mind I'd like to mention. The first is weirdly "Hello Kitty & Apron of Magic: Rhythm Cooking" on the 3DS. For whatever reason, it has a couple "Arcana Heart" characters in it. Well, the face of the series, Heart Aino, canonically does help her family run a bakery so it's not completely random but still. The other is an SRPG called "Queen's Gate: Spiral Chaos" on the PSP. Being a crossover game, there are multiple series involved and a bunch of them just happen to be fighters. Mai from "King of Fighters", Iroha, Mina, and Cham Cham from "Samurai Showdown", Dizzy from "Guilty Gear", Noel from "Blazblue", Lily from "Tekken", and Ivy from "Soul Calibur" are all in it. Though I should note that due to the source materials, "Queen's Blade" and the "Queen's Gate" battle books, the game is sexually heavy as a result. But despite that, it's actually a legitimately good SRPG with some really cool attack animations. Of course since it's developed by the "Super Robot Taisen" devs, just on a smaller budget. Besides those, "Blazblue" and "Guilty Gear" both had a bunch more spin-offs, like "BlayzBloo" on the DSi and "GG Dust Strikers" on DS. Though those are still kinda-sorta fighters so I guess they might not count. Really seems like ASW had been trying to branch out from fighting games around that time. Unfortunately for them, to little success. Like, more recently, what the heck was "Code Shifter" supposed to be? 37:48 (Blazblue: Entropy Effect") That seems to be the general consensus. It's largely a "Blazblue" game in name only. Some characters show up but that's it. The story and setting are basically entirely disconnected. Heck, apparently the game originally wasn't even supposed to be "Blazblue" related, but instead got retrofitted into being one once ASW gave the developers access to the license. 1:11:14 ("Lilithrottle") Wow, now that's an obscure pick. It's technically not an official product since it's a doujin game which is in that grey fan-game area but still, it's a fun little title to have in your pocket to bring out. I remember trying to play this for a good while back in the day but I was new to the whole emulation/ROM ripping stuff so I couldn't get it running.

[@baberuthless]

The hello kitty game and queens gate of love to talk about in a video someday but I’d qualify those as guest appearances since there not the headliners

[@Aripuni1]

That blazblue spinoff entropy effect is a good game, it bring new people because the roguelike mechanic is very good

[@xanderskullion]

Fantastic video! Sholin monks was so good!

[@Dominocross44]

I adore this video already because no one ever acknowledges beat down: fists of vengeance

[@DanAdamKOF]

I really enjoyed The Rhythm of Fighters. Unfortunately it's yet another game dependent on a server which no longer runs due to the server shutting down. I hope I can somehow play it again one day (Switch rerelease?)

[@imfinishedgrinding638]

I miss playing Might Final Fight. Thanks for the Nostalgia!

[@mr.voidout4739]

Loved Canon Spike. Probably the first spin-off (of anything) game I played actually🤔 Ok maybe Dr, Mario or Pokemon Snap, but CS was the first completely out-of-element spin-off for me lol.

[@Ledluver]

Final fight revenge could be; It's always sunny in Metro City 😂 Dang that game gives me a season 1 vibe, especially with dingy bars and cellars lol. Somebody mod the gang in 😫👌

[@4kumetsu]

luv these vids

[@rascalnotwascal7737]

Blazblue Entropy Effect has been on my radar for awhile now. Game looks amazing! I just have too many games to finish right now lol

[@kogtvkeepersofthegate8911]

Did anyone else notice Lloyd Irving from tales of symphonia in the sol caliber spin off?

[@toxictincan]

I've played Guilty Gear Tangent for myself, and it's definitely one fever dream of a platformer. It's very slippery to control (much like running in a bathhouse) and grabbing more collectibles in stages determines how many lives you'll start out with per level, at least until new game+, where collectibles just become an object for 100%. You WILL need those extra lives lol.

[@alexsudati]

One that's amazing (I'm heavily biased here) is the "disc 2" of Project Justice/Rival Schools 2, it's sort of a board game with a bunch of mini games that lets you create a character and use it in-game afterwards. Although I couldn't read japanese (still can't) it hugely influenced me as a tween

[@johnlukecampbell3140]

Ryo Hazuki being in virtua fighter would’ve been the sickest thing ever!

[@yellow98gt]

Great video You could have mentioned how the Final Fight series went back to a fighting game in Final Fight Revenge

[@UltraTien]

There is actually a bit of progress on the english translation for KoF Kyo done, the person that did the Spanish translation did the hard part already which in simple terms is extracting the script and reinjecting the translation. The problem is they dipped from the internet entirely before giving anyone the extracted script or any of the workflow for reinjecting it (a lot of times it needs to be done on a game by game basis for PSX and Saturn) 🙃

[@baberuthless]

I saw there was a bit of drama from that sadly. Here’s hoping that work continues someday

[@baziworld]

i know this is kinda of backward but : Ninja Gaiden and Dead or alive series( i know, dead or alive came from NG) Tsukihime and Melty Blood series (again, MB Came from Tsukihime)

[@SantaAzulCTZN]

There's also X-Perts, a tactical action game starring 3 characters from Eternal Champions.

[@gjergjaurelius9798]

Oh man, what a wasted weekend back in The day.

[@PlatyNews]

Eternal Champions also have Chicago Syndicate, a game gear beat em up

[@PlatyNews]

Is BlazBlue: Clone Phantasma (the 3DS chibi one) an arena fighting game with some beat em up elements or a beat em up with some arena fighting elements ?

[@baberuthless]

The exact debate I had to justify if I should not include in the video 😅

[@MohammadAliKhan124]

1:20 i remember this game, was so hard

[@Inuzumi]

I finished both XBlaze: Code Embryo and Lost Memories. They take place in another dimension because some things sound familiar while others don't at the same time. They have multiple endings and nice characters imo. Both are supposed to be prequels, the first game follows a new story with new characters while the second centers itself around a character from the mainline series. I'm a big BlazBlue fan, and I truly believe that they are worth a try for anyone who likes BlazBlue, its characters and themes.

[@27kinglou]

Excellent video

[@ronindebeatrice]

Sf2010 was a brutal game. Even owning it and tiring out my entire NES library I'd still hesitate to put it in. The near death music is torture.

[@jacksonjack7838]

Woooooooooooooo. The title of this confused me for longer than Id like to admit. Didnt Shenmue start off as like a Fighting Games spin off? Maybe Im wrong about that.

[@baberuthless]

Yup! 26:57

[@jacksonjack7838]

@@baberuthlesscommented before I watched it all.

[@the_russian_tanker]

25:49 Excuse me, but why the hell is his movelist is suddenly writen in Russian?

[@Greenmeanie123]

Excellent question...

[@GrumpyCat97]

death by degrees has the best graphics for PS2, at first i thought it's a early PS3 game

[@Maxwel_Rodrigues]

Every time I listen to the Option Music from Capcom Vs. SNK I only think in one thing: "Kaiser, uma grande cerveja. A cerveja dos momentos felizes".

[@Srsgaming_1234]

Wasn’t the first small clip tekken 5? For ps2? I remember playing that same game mode as well.

[@djtoxicdhg]

Showune monks is probably one of the greatest mortal combat games of all time.

[@DanPantzig]

If you want a KOF beat 'em up with some fairly decent features, Beats Of Rage is where you need to go. It's kinda like MUGEN but for beat 'em ups.

[@clarkewood6143]

Great vid!

[@renexuz1]

Regarding the canon status of Guilty Gear spin-offs & what it considers canon... its very weird. Easiest way to understand this mess is that there is 3 tiers of canon, mainline games, the X-XX games (officially "Accent Series" at least on the description of GGX on guiltygearx website) & spin-offs (clearly shown on the guiltygearx website in a separate section). Mainline: Guilty Gear (1998) (sometimes subtitled The Missing Link in the game & on merch), Guilty Gear 2, Guilty Gear Xrd Sign, Guilty Gear Xrd Revelator & Guilty Gear Strive (IV in Strive is highlighted, so its Guilty Gear 4). Accent Series: Guilty Gear X, Guilty Gear XX, Guilty Gear XX Accent Core (yes XXAC is officially separate, as it has a completely different story mode added in the Plus update). Spin-Offs: Rest of the games. The way these games are treated is that Mainline stuff is the actual story, The Accent Series games are additional side games that add lore to the world & characters, but also the Accent Series has been retconed to hell & back so the canon stuff you have to pick & choose. Then finally the Spin-Offs are mostly very disconnected side games, but are there if you want more Jam lore or something, soooo ultimately they dont really matter, EXCEPT THE PACHINKO MACHINE Guilty Gear XT Vastedge which is a prequel to Xrd Sign (XT was the pre-release name for Xrd, both being shortenings of "X Third"). Speaking of Xrd, if you want to make sense of the name the X part comes from the gameplay being an evolution of The Accent Series, but the story is a sequel to the story of GG2 so GG3. Dont ask why the story is split into 2 different games that both form the 3rd chapter of the story, Daisuke got funky with that game. They were not cooking with these, plz just use numbers ArcSys. Also lets not even get into the books, manga, audio dramas or FUCKING CALENDARS (not joking, a Strive calender has unique lore relating to the stages)

[@baberuthless]

A pachinko machine having GG lore seems very on brand to the series to me 😂 For some reason GG having three tiers of cannon intrests me even more to finally deep dive this lore

[@JOfJaZ]

Honestly, Ive always wanted to get a ton of fighting game spinoffs especially those made around the PS2 era.

[@JOfJaZ]

Also as someone who plays SHMUPS, Sky Stage is a fun game.