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[@HannaHsOverInvested]

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[@Troupe_Master]

You REEEEALY Should react to Wes-Hammers videos about Warhammer he is 1000% Better than Bricky

[@JJoJam]

6:51 I have been called. I must answer. kzbin.info/aero/PLVja_u5G0dRa8K_tYo8ovyaDemNPLTlki

[@Vulkanprimarch]

The Wood Elves were the tree looking elves you were interested in. They are fey and capricious, living in Athel Loren forest and hiding away from the world, only to be roused when their woods are trespassed in or threatened by outsiders. They have fey magics and mighty beasts of the forest to fill out their ranks, alongside fast lithe and deadly elven warriors. One of the warhammer fantasy armies that has more female characters and warriors then typical male heavy armies. Like most elven factions in the game and the lore. There was one time a lost dwarven caravan was murdered by the guardians of athel loren. The dwarf hold upon hearing of this made plans for vengance, they mustered heavily armed and armoured clan warriors, consulted experts on the wood elves and chose the deep winter as the time to make their strike for retribution. By marching into the forest during winter few elves could be roused to fight and this time they were facing dwarf warriors not merchants. The dwarfs took a bloody toll upon the wood elves and cut down some of their oldest trees. Then made a pyre of the sacred wood and bodies to celebrate their grudge against the elves was now settled.

[@dylanjohnson4858]

You should react to "Sho vs. Shinra Full Fight English Dub" it's one of the best anime fight's i've EVER seen and tells a bit of story concerning the anime Fire Force, the animation for it is 10/10 as well!!!

[@philipmerz2104]

So the people that you said you want to know about are the wood elves and the lizard man that you saw on the video.

[@fipse]

"This little dwarf guy here." That is going right into the book!

[@ginozancanaro3346]

yeah, High King Thorgrim Grudgbearer is not the one guy you can call short and hope there are no consequences

[@JH-pr9sh]

Haha good call

[@giovannigio3764]

Did you call it "the book"? We will make a note of that in "the great book of grudges." 😁😁

[@tsjeardnicolay5638]

​@@ginozancanaro3346 SHORT!?!?

[@johncostello6006]

The book?! That's a grudgin'.

[@Octopugilist]

Dwarves in Warhammer are much pettier and more vengeful than in LotR. Grudges are literally a part of their religion, and if you offend one dwarf, you've slighted them all. There's a story where a noble hired a dwarf to build him a castle. They agreed upon the cost and after a few years the construction was complete. Unknown to the noble, the exact value of his currency had fluctuated in those years, meaning that the original payment promised was off by a few pennies. The dwarf, offended at being cheated, returned home and recorded the slight in THE BOOK OF GRUDGES, a sacred tome of dwarven butthurt. A few pennies is nothing, but grudges accrue interest just like debt. Exponentially. Sure enough, in a few years the entire dwarven nation descended on the castle and razed it to the ground

[@fillosof66689]

There is an in-game mission when you play the main dwarf factions in Warhammer Total War where the goal is to raze/sack a settlement and the reward is literally two gold pieces compared to hundreds and thousands you need to spend on anything worthwhile. :D

[@nekrataali]

I like how greenskins and skaven have committed so many slights against dwarves they generally don't even bother writing new ones down in the book. There's just some blurbs saying "Too many grudges to list. Genocide all skaven and greenskins on sight." 🤣

[@frking100]

Teclis is also very famous for making fun of the dawi at any chance he gets, not to mention Thorgrim is right about teclis not speaking for the elves. Teclis is not a leader to the elves outside from the tower of hoeth and he doesnt seem to be sent by the phoenix king as there is princes of caledor there amongst other elves.

[@spellbound1875]

To be fair to the dwarfs they did inform him of the payment issue before the razing. He just declined to address the issue so what other logical course of action could there be?

[@k.v.7681]

Wasn't there one story where a couple innocent farmers were butchered by dwarves because unbeknownst to them, great great great great something grandaddy had slighted a dwarf? Grudges don't just accrue interest over time, they are inherited.

[@oomsou5018]

We enjoy the other side cause it’s just fun to be unapologetically evil . Also they got a lot of style that sometimes the “good guys” don’t got. I love the monsters that chaos and the beastmen got so I really like there faction. Personally a villain doesn’t always gotta be relatable, sometimes it’s ok to just be evil and a fun villain. Like Jack Horner from Puss in Boots 2.

[@cheeseninja1115]

I think a perfect example of this is Sigvald the Prince of Slaanesh. He is so one note it's charming. Dude canonically polishes his armor so much that he has a perfect reflection of his face to see at all times. Also lets not forget him wearing a chainmail thong and nothing else under his plate armor. So extreme it goes around the being charming in its own way.

[@nekrataali]

Beastmen are the most tragic faction in Warhammer, IMO. They're often mutants born to non-mutated parents and are abandoned as babies if they aren't killed outright. They turn to chaos worship because chaos accepts them as they are and puts them in a society where their mutations are considered gifts.

[@oomsou5018]

@@nekrataali ehhh kinda. There more tragic as in GW gives them about as much attention as the Eldar in 40k which is barely any and it’s an amazement when they do get any attention. Also chaos doesn’t even accept them. Literally in there lore the chaos gods barely give them any notice unless they are very very exceptional. They are evil down to the bone. Like how it’s literally within a Skaven’s nature to back stab, for beastmen it’s to destroy.

[@enkiduthewildman]

@@cheeseninja1115 I think that describes the entire 40K franchise. The whole thing is so over-the-top '90s edgelord that it loops around to being badass. It's not cringe only because it's too far gone for that. There's an unspoken statement at the beginning that says, "we know this is silly, but we're going to lean into that, so if you're not willing to take that step over the line with us then this isn't for you."

[@Addeand]

@@enkiduthewildman the media itself isn't cringe anymore, but interfacing with it in the same way as the 90's edgelord stuff just as weird as a cop car with a punisher decal

[@philiphamel8504]

Warhammer has a couple major variations. Primarily Grimdark Science Fiction (40K and Rogue Trader) and Fantasy (this is the older fantasy tabletop war game, and the more recent Age of Sigmar.) The Total War Games that feature fantasy are usually tied to the OG fantasy lore. Hope you're having a good day. And have a great week.

[@HannaHsOverInvested]

Thanks you too!

[@nekrataali]

And then Blood Bowl! Another alternate Warhammer universe where the god, Nuffle, is worshiped by all.

[@1s23d]

​@@HannaHsOverInvestedthe wood elves are the elves who stayed behind in Athel Loren after the war of the beard or the war of vengeance depending on if your an high elf or dwarf

[@henkkamatikaine2808]

It's understandable that the dwarf high king wasn't too keen on trusting the elves. In the lore, dwarfs and elves had this huge war thousands of years ago which almost wiped out both races. And it all started when the elves cut off a beard of a dwarven emissary, worst insult you could do to them. That's why it's called "war of the beards" by the dwarfs.

[@jakewu8268]

It’s called “War of the Beards” by the elves. The dwarfs called it the “The War of Vengeance.” 🙂 The humans would know it as the “War of the Ancients.” There is actually a trilogy of books you can read on the conflict.

[@henkkamatikaine2808]

@@jakewu8268 Yeah guess i remembered wrong, i thought it was the other way around. And yes i've read the book, very good read.

[@jakewu8268]

@@henkkamatikaine2808 ah cool! Yeah wish they start putting more Warhammer Fantasy books on Audible. They have been putting out Warhammer Fantasy stuff in omnibuses recently tho which is great I will say.

[@fillosof66689]

The kicker for the conflict, IMO is the fact that it was orchestrated by a rogue faction if elves that will later become known as Dark Elves. The only reason the elven ruler at the time has allowed the war to proceed was his arrogance - he was too prideful to ever tall other races that the elves has just had a civil war and that the rogue faction even exists.

[@Archris17]

That alone however is why the sight of Tyrion and Grombrindal fighting side-by-side fills me with OVERWHELMING joy. The ancient grudge is finally settled in the destruction of their mutual enemies. We all know that grudges can only be settled with gold or blood, but by joining forces to destroy both the skaven and _unbaraki_ druchii, at last the grudge can be settled in the blood of enemies and the two ancient races can come together once again!

[@WaterLockser]

Can we just appreciate how Kislev and Cathays delegates just went "fuck it we leaving. we've got the enemy at our front door and no time for bitching" the moment the Dwarfs and elves had their spat

[@vahdoom]

6:31 probably one of the best trailers Warhammer has ever made, 7:11 is Balthasar Gelt from the Empire and Zhao Ming from Cathay who are both fond of explosions and artillery, absolutely hammering down on the Skaven and the lord Queek (I think its Queek)

[@victor56689]

balthasar in the mood "welcome to estalia "

[@madhatterman01]

Nah, it's just a rando warlord, since he only carries a single sword, whereas Queek also has the hammer/pickaxe thing. But I also thought it was Queek the first time I watched the trailer.

[@vahdoom]

@@madhatterman01 Yeah but why would they showcase all the other LL's and have a random generic one for the skaven....

[@rayclawicefire2503]

@@vahdoom cause they can and to be fair not everyone can fit in the trailer since there are so many lords.

[@Shnauften]

They not only share their love of explosion and artillery, but also magic and more specifically Lore of Metal magic

[@HunterKiller762]

I’m not ashamed to admit my brother and I would sing the Ogre song as we drank. And whenever I see this trailer I kinda get hungry

[@jakewu8268]

For the Great Maw!

[@walter1383]

You're lucky. The trailer came out when I was violently sick with a norovirus, so whenever I view it I immediately become nauseous. Guess that means I'm not an ogre lol.

[@jaemes1728]

exactly the same with me and my brother haha

[@30SECONDSREMAINING]

5:22 I love seeing Gotrek and Felix here there books used to be some of my favorites.

[@Tazkar]

Most lopsided battle in the history of Warhammer. Poor Skarbrand doesn't have a chance.

[@WaterLockser]

@@Tazkar Skarbrand hearing boss music thinking its for him but not knowing its because of who he's facing

[@chainsawboy2388]

@@Tazkar “It’s 3 on 2 guys we got this”

[@Archris17]

@@chainsawboy2388 Technically five-on-two if you count the two bloodthirsters he made into his axes. That's ALMOST a fair fight (I kid. I've had Gotrek lose a one-on-one with _Valkia_ of all people. Kinda BS if I'm honest)

[@Fenlander216]

The Dawi (dwarves) and the Elgi (Elves) were at war called the War of the Beard. This saw many casualties on both sides, the dwarves consider it a grudge against the elves and have an inbred animosity towards them. The elves on the other hand would like to forget that war and move on, but the dwarves society is built upon honour, oaths and grudges. This is a really simplified break down of their relations. GW took the idea from Tolkien Lord of the Rings.

[@zacmason3593]

Other races: we fight for our future Ogers: We are here for the free food

[@fillosof66689]

The Sons of Kislev video is a trailer of sorts to the narrative tutorial campaign of the game. It is a much more focused and character driven story compared to the main game. In addition, the journey of its main character, Yuri, sheds a lot of light on how exactlyin Warhammer universes well meaning people can so often end up as seemingly irredeemable monsters. If you would be interested, I can post below a list of videos that contain the story beats from that short campaign.

[@fillosof66689]

11:50 that was a burp that ended up with a pretty damn menacing growl. Which is a good metaphor for Greasus, the Ogre ruler, and their whole race. They are among the most cheerful people in all of Warhammer Fantasy, so of course they will sing and make merry as they have a feast. Of course their leader will end the song with a burping solo and looks like a helpless fat dobber with awful fashion sense. However at the same time Ogres are immensely strong, cruel and driven by a supernatural hunger to consume the flesh of others; meanwhile Greasus is the most cunning and ruthless of all the ogre tyrants, on top of being strong and quick despite his weight.

[@JL-ti3us]

Hannah, 100% right with the relatable villians comments. Its hard to truly agree with some of the 40k factions for this reason, like fulgrim or angron (his betrayal is understandble maybe, but his lost his agency in the modern settting), but Ahriman from the thousand sons is empathethic because he is trying to bring back his battle brothers lost to the Rubric, even though he's technically still a villian.

[@thetalantonx]

12:21 - Definitely! Total War has been around for 23 years now (first Total War game, Shogun: Total War, was released in 2000.) They've spanned cultures and moments in history, and have branched out into fictional universes.

[@NeiasaurusCreations]

So warhammer fantasy was actually the ORIGINAL IP, warhammer 40k came after. Originally they were said to take place in the same universe, and shared some basic stuff like the warp, the chaos god. But 40k was set in the year 40,000 and sci-fy based. And fantasy was set on a single world. Somewhere along the lines they became two completely separate universes, and eventually 40k would over shoot fantasy in popularity and become the "main" IP.

[@christopherwyatt2771]

12:01 "Disgusting. Foul. What a way to end." Someone needs to show her some Papa Nurgle content....

[@blackorcshagrat8587]

''I'm into the song, though. Not so much the lyrics''. One of the most unique reviews of it I have seen. ''They're like so tough and gross. I'm going to eat this food and we're going to sing a jaunted tune about how gross we are!'' By the Ogre standards, those are flattering compliments. Greasus Goldtooth and the rest of the Ogre Kingdoms send their regards!

[@bloodredroses195]

6:45 the name of this technique is Mickey Mousing, you basically sync the accompanying music with the actions on screen

[@zotaninoron3548]

Elite 'Last of Us' Twitch streamer watches #1: Warhammer III

[@HannaHsOverInvested]

elite LOL

[@zackrodriguez6653]

Bit of context, Good guys: Empire (big hammer guy), dwarves, High Elves (short jokes), Kislev (polar bears), Cathay (Chinese inspired), Wood elves (big horn / Stags), Bwetonnia (Crusaders), Lizzies (dinosaurs), tomb kings (mummies) Bad guys: everyone else ! you should watch more of these so fun!

[@Cifer77]

That big beautiful Ogre was Greasus Goldtooth. He considers himself too rich to walk.

[@AngeryCrow]

So you just watches Immortal Empires trailer, it's a trailer for a special mode where the game combine all factions and races from the last two games together. But it's also a hint to one of the biggest event in Warhammer Fantasy universe, the Endtime. It's an event where forces of Chaos joined together in one giant warband and start the great destruction to all those who doesn't worship the dark gods. It's a giant war band that has Norscan the wild savage people who worship dark gods, Chaos Warrior the human that worship Dark gods, Chaos Daemons of each dark gods, and Skaven the giant ravenou rat people.

[@chainsawboy2388]

Warhammer 1,2, and 3 are all based on warhammer fantasy aka the fantasy version of warhammer, their somewhat controversial sequel is warhammer: age of Sigmar, warhammer 40k is a different series entirely set space obviously with a few similar elements to fantasy like the demons.

[@JVarley9001]

The Sons of Kislev trailer is a good example of how something like the Blood God can get a hold of people. Start with someone from a warrior culture who values strength, honor, and courage. Then you add this little voice urging them to go further, to do more, to indulge in those violent impulses that are already encouraged for them. It grows bit by bit, corrupting them until they're consumed by their own rage.

[@Razielts1]

11:40 the Ogres and the Greenskins are two of the happiest races in the game, cuz ogres love to fight as mercenaries, to travel the world and find new ingredients to add to their dishes, eat, fight, praise their gods, and tell stories of their travels. The Greenskins love to fight the strongest faction they know about , just for the sake of it, so much that if the ones they're fighting are loosing they get bored and start fighting each other instead.

[@Blackout27able]

If you want to know more about the diffrent Leaders i recommend Cody Bonds and his Noob Guide Videos for Total War Warhammer. He talks about thier Lore and a bit about how the play in the Game. They are also quite funny.

[@Rhysman30]

Oh I didn't realize that's why 40k never really clicked with you. The interesting thing about the "bad guys" is more that they started out with a righteous cause, but were corrupted slowly, and became the monsters that love blood and killing. It's all rather tragic. Even the "good guys" (who are pretty bad) were WAY better before they became absolutely terrible. But to get to that point requires a LOT of time dedicated to digging into the lore.

[@Shemerhan]

5:23 It's Gotrek and Felix there are a book seies about them. Like them.

[@jakewu8268]

Yes I love that book series. It has its flaws but they are fun adventures. Currently revisiting all the main books/stories on Audible.

[@DJGumm3yG4t0r]

If you enjoy the reading Cain I think the Gotrek and Felix books (Gotrek and Felix are actually the man and dwarf that stare down the red deamon with the two axes in the immortal empires trailer 5:20 ). A youtuber called PancreasNoWork has the best video on the topic but essentially Felix drunkenly swore an oath to record Gotreks doom fighting monsters in a poem but everything that gets in front of Gotrek ends up turned into pulp instead of him. I would go into why Gotrek is seeking doom fighting monsters but explaining dwarf culture and values is would be a bit too much of an info dump for a KZbin comment.

[@crystallkingh3048]

10:40 is real footage from the annual discord mod meetup :)

[@Scientist118]

There's a guy by the name of MandaloreGaming who made reviews for Warhammer Total War. I think you might enjoy checking out how he reviews the factions and DLCs along with a few funny moments here and there.

[@HannaHsOverInvested]

Thanks!

[@samuelmcewen9011]

I second this he explains it perfectly why to play and she should start with watching the video on warhammer 2.

[@ChaoticNeutralDude]

@@HannaHsOverInvested yup, MandaloreGaming is an absolute star when it comes to warhammer, recommendation is starting with the one titled "Total War Warhammer 2 Review" its very new friendly. did you ever watch "Daemon Prince Customisation"? its on the developers channel and its short and funny

[@m.s.1522]

BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD, SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE

[@thethirdsicily4802]

If you like the guns matching the music, I don't know if you've reacted to it but the Warhammer 2 trailer for "Curse of the Vampire Coast" has a great instance of that. It also has undead pirates singing a sea shanty.

[@pogo8050]

7:11 remember the dragon lady? That’s her faction

[@DKaedus]

the meaning of the trailer of the Immortal Empire is that the conditional "forces of good" (people of different factions / elves / gnomes / lizardmen) must unite against the "forces of evil" (demons and warriors of chaos, orcs, undead, dark elves, skaven)

[@Darshumai]

Gnomes? You must wanna mean Dwarf right? *Stoically open the great book of grudges*

[@tartarustrommler5454]

Did you just call the dawi "gnomes". That's another one in the book for you.

[@Rottooth]

Warhammer fantasy is a fantasy setting and Warhammer 40k is a sci fi setting. They're different settings and aren't connected beyond using the same names, antagonists, and species. Fans has speculated that Warhammer fantasy actually takes place on a planet within the 40k setting, but it's all fan theory and not a confirmed by Games Workshop. I highly recommend you read the Gaunt's Ghost series next. Also would be nice to see you make a video discussing the books you've read so far. Would be cool to see you piecing 40k together yourself.

[@nekrataali]

There's the old rumor that Fantasy is a world isolated in the Warp/Eye of Terror and on that world is a crystal ball containing the Milky Way galaxy. I haven't been able to find a definite source since Liber Chaotica Complete is what's often cited (which I don't own a copy of). Of course, there's also the various items in Fantasy that are from 40k and even had models for (i.e. wizards with boltguns). You could get lightning claws, for example, as magic items gifted from the Old Ones as late as 6th. Edition WHFB (IIRC they were also featured in 7th. and 8th. but my memory is a bit fuzzy). The original Realms of Chaos book and Mordheim both featured 40k gear as random treasures/gifts that were hard to find (1 in 666 chance in Realms of Chaos).

[@CthulhuOnCam]

I remember a million years ago recommending the Cane books. So I'm so glad to hear you're reading and enjoying them

[@TaengJr]

Just how Orion blowing his horn synchronizes(spelling??) with the music at 6:51 Pure genius

[@Razielts1]

On this trailer, prince Yuri was chasing general Yuri, that defected, and also looking to save one of his gods Ursun. But he picked up his cursed sword, so he too was getting corrupted. This is why his brother Gerig started looking at him with worry.

[@MeridianSon]

You're doing great! Thanks for hanging in there!👍🏿

[@Cifer77]

Gotta watch them 100%, I think she missed the Chaos Dwarf tease

[@generaldreagonlps6889]

I guess. But she's not going to get anything out of that anyway.

[@josgretf2800]

Hooray! I just rewatched your other total war vids the other day! Also, Lore time! So Elsa is the Tsarina of Kislev, the Warhammer fantasy version of all eastern europe mashed together. They defend the world against constant demon invasions. And for the relatable villain thing, I get what you mean. Chaos corrupts, and there is little reason to ever side with them or ability to relate with them at all realistically. The big bad guy seen throughout the trailer with horns is Archaon, he's the chosen of all 4 chaos gods, so evil they all agreed he was the best fit. Oh, and at 4:16, thats a dark elf named Malekith, he has a very special relationship with his mother. very... close.

[@Drocksas]

Ogres are exactly what you would think they'd be - crude, warlike, and willing to eat any (and I mean *ANY*) kind of meat they can get their hands on. And they're just so darn happy to do it! They're almost as simple-minded as the Greenskins (the Orcs/Goblins), and are just all too happy to stuff themselves, enjoy a good fight, and sacrifice what they don't eat to their god, the Great Maw! It's that simplicity that is the charm of this otherwise gross faction!

[@thetalantonx]

0:14 - Total War: Warhammer I through III are all set in Warhammer Fantasy. Warhammer Fantasy experienced the End Times and became Age of Sigmar. Dawn of War, Darktide, Space Marine, Inquisitor, etc, are all set in Warhammer 40,000/WH40K. Fantasy and 40K are completely different settings except for some of the concepts and names. Like Slaanesh, the Prince of Pleasure/She Who Thirsts, is in both settings but his/her origin is very different in each and personality is somewhat different. Ciaphas Cain is in Warhammer 40K, and yep, I did meet your gaze and say "right."

[@masonsudul1643]

The elves and the dwarfs have hated eachother for 100s of years. The "time is short" comment 100% was meant like that XD

[@HannaHsOverInvested]

really?!?!?!?!? hahahahahahah

[@jakewu8268]

Yeah it was like a 400 year war that raged across the continent of the Old World. Basically the first Warhammer fantasy world war that doesn’t involve chaos. Well actually some chaos Daemon stuff does show up but it’s mostly elves and dwarfs going at it. 😂

[@DestroToCreate]

7:24 "So (click) that's for you " Right after you love for the synchronization hahahahha gold moment 12:03 " Patch notes... ha. .. i know what that means" Hahahahha

[@Razielts1]

10:20 the worshippers of khorne, usually get corrupted when they feel rage, hate, anger and frustration to an extreme. This is exemplified in one of the main Warhammer 3 trailers you probably watched. The other Yuri got corrupted, because he hated both religions of his nation, since chaos was slowly, but surely winning, and he felt that they were all greedy, and didn't actually care for the people. So he gave in to his rage, feeling why should I defend them, if i can't beat chaos I'll join them. After corruption takes in, Khorne makes it so that you can't feel anything but rage, so you must always kill, maim, burn, and take skulls.

[@cdnxman1326]

i do find some of the evil factions in Warhammer interesting, for example, the very genuine love between Vlad and Isabella Von Carstein, Vlad, in particular, despite being a vampire, can be courteous, honorable, and pleasant.

[@LordEsel88]

Playing the role of an unapologetic villain can be pretty cathardic sometimes. I remember long ago that the voice actress of the witch in Little Mermaid said it was great fun playing her.

[@panakon366]

This is one of the greatest trailers of all time but it is created for people who are already fans of the series for years. Seeing all these characters big together in a single trailer is a cumlination of all those years playing the game. I can imagine this trailer must felt overwhelming and like it lacked the storytelling of other trailers, but in reality its a gift to the players who took this journey since 2016. Im really glad that you enjoyed it and I assure you that even after watching it ten times I still got shivers.

[@MRFlackAttack1]

If you’re planning on playing Warhammer 3 or want to learn more about the characters in it, there are a series of videos called “Noobs Guide” that humorously explains every character, the tropes around them and how to play them.

[@MrSatured13]

That "matching the music" was perfect when vamoire coast was announced for warhammer 2

[@Wineblood]

Warhammer has 2 popular settings: space scifi in 40k, and a more standard fantasy setting which the total war: warhammer games as set in. The warhammer fantasy world is limited to one planet which has the continents and cultures that resemble our own. The human Empire (leader is Karl Franz, the main guy speaking in the trailer) has a German vibe to it. There's a French inspired one to their west, who are barely seen in the video. There's Kislev to the northeast of the Empire, who are very Russian inspired with ice and bear and orthodox religion. In warhammer 3, Cathay was add far in the east and is clearly China. Whilst a lot of things are different in the fantasy setting/warhammer 3 compared to 40k, chaos is still the same in terms of influence and chaos gods. In the fantasy world, instead of poles to the north and south, that world bleeds into chaos wastes so the supernatural threats are very real. "These people", referred to at 6:51, are wood elves. Unlike high elves and dark elves, they don't have a big part of the world that's theirs, they just stick to great forests and are very much against chaos. The little gecko dude with a blowpipe that's shown with the wood elves belongs to another faction (lizardmen) but also very anti-chaos so it makes sense that he's there. The dwarf with the big axe (the best dwarf, don't argue on this one) is Grombrindal and is kind of a dwarf demi god. In the game he's a fantastic lord who strengthens some fun units, but in the lore he's a mysterious figure who lived long ago and shows up when his people need him. He sounds a lot like a dwarf version of santa, shows up and punishes people on the naughty list, eats all the food and drink left out for him, then leaves. There was a small bit after the "credits" in the first video that teased the next faction coming, I didn't expect the video to play all the way to the end. The great thing about immortal empires is that the map is huge and contains almost the whole world and has 86 (I think) different playable choices, so the trailer was more about showing all of that together than telling a story.

[@dethmunky86]

I'm playing Total War Warhammer 3 off and on right now, and it's a lot of fun. Games Workshop kind of blew up the old Warhammer fantasy world and rebooted it a few years back, but there were some really great series there. Gotrek and Felix was an ongoing series with a big following. It's about a dwarf with a death wish, and a poet that chronicles his stories have different adventures. I really liked the Nagash series, which is about how one of the series biggest villains came about and destroyed an Egyptian-style empire, and also how necromancy and undead creatures came into Warhammer. Warhammer and Warhammer 40,000 both have the concept of Chaos as a malevolent demonic force in the world. And so, there are concepts and characters that overlap between the two, like the four gods of Chaos and their greater demons. For more information, consult your local Liber Daemonica.

[@nekrataali]

There's also Blood Bowl that takes place in another alternate universe with Chaos gods, as well as the god, Nuffle (a mispronunciation of "NFL").

[@TheLightningFalcon]

I watched somebody break down the Immortal Empire trailer for 40 minutes, so apparently it's really well done, so if you want to know the background to it heres the link ( kzbin.info/www/bejne/hXWQinWQpt1ma6M ). 😄

[@HannaHsOverInvested]

Thanks!

[@AwesomeLionSaurus]

@@HannaHsOverInvested Oooh! I love Loremaster of Sotek! He is so passionate. Maybe do a reaction to his reaction? xD

[@karlrichardson3295]

I love hearing your point of view on games My grandad said anything can be true from someone's point of view I have a joke Did you know Mortal Kombat is based on a Scandinavian church song? It was a Finish-hymn

[@perer005]

Not actively killing each other is the closest thing to friendship in Warhammer!

[@berendvanbeerschot1472]

The short was meant like that. Tho this one elve in particular is very wise, all high elves still remain inherently arrogant. So even tho he knows it at all isn’t smart to say something like that he can’t keep himself from making these clever verbal jabs. The dwarf started by questioning if he even speaks for his people since he isn’t the main leader of their faction. The reason their leader(s) aren’t attending this meeting is because their homeland is already getting invaded by dark elves, which you can also see in the video. Same goes for kislev and cathay, since they are at the front line versus chaos. (You can also see this happening in the video.) But this is more known by the people attending the meeting. Also later in the video you see a legendary dwarf and one of the main leaders of the high elves fight side by side and looking grateful at each other to be fighting by one’s side. The storytelling in this is video is truly too much to go over everything and as you could probably already tell it’s beautifully done. Just know you’re looking at a masterpiece. One of the last to remain that haven’t been ruined by the wider public and has a lot of passionate players and fanatics.

[@Trev0Rear]

Hey Hannah, essentially the thing with Chaos is that in small doses it sounds good, even great on paper. Khorne is the God of war and honor Tzeentch is the God of Progress and Magic Nurgle is the God of Nature and Slaanesh is the God(dess) of Perfection But the thing with the Chaos gods is that they don't want you to settle, they want you to push yourself further and further into chaos, perverting your once highly held ideals into something terrible

[@kellerblair2952]

Those at 6:50 are the Elves known the Asraii or the wood elves who inhabit the enchanted forest of Athel Loren and alongside them are the Lizardmen of Lustria oldest of the races and guardians of the world.

[@zackrodriguez6653]

Hell yeah, brother.

[@maxmichalik4938]

So, the two settings: Warhammer Fantasy is a fantasy world set on a single planet roughly inspired by Earth, filled with all of your common (and a few original) fantasy races. The "main" protagonist faction is the Empire, a nation of scrappy humans inspired by the real world Holy Roman Empire (the one that's now Germany and was neither holy, nor Roman, nor an empire) with roughly renaissance era technology (guns are only just becoming popular). The most original antagonist are the Four Gods of Chaos and all the varied corruption they bring. At some point people from the same company decided that it would be cool to have their ip IN SPACE. What started as a very simple conversion to scifi became the Warhammer 40k universe, where the grim and gritty elements of the fantasy setting were turned up to eleven. The holy empire became an insane fascist/theocratic space empire of all humans with a corpse god-emperor at its head. Many fantasy races became aliens that were all extreme in one way or another. A couple of extra aliens were added. And the Space Marines, initially a parody of ubermensch jackboot cops, became the unironic focus of most storytellers. The forces of Chaos remain the same, except with more guns and space ships, to the point that there's fan theories that the four gods are literally the same across both settings and that you can travel from one to the other through their realm..

[@derfreundlicheLurker]

Hey Hannah, great vid and if you want to see more good action synched to the music, check out the Vampire Coast trailer for Total Warhammer 2, along with the Ogre Kingdoms trailer, that's the best music trailers of the games. Also about the people you wanna know more about, those are wood elves (wutelgi in dwarvish), which are also one of my favourite races in the game. Theres 2 trailers for them (Wood Elves trailer of course and The Twisted and The Twilight trailer). They are very isolationist, they usually stay in their forests and if you come to them - well, they kill you for stepping on their lawn. In the game they are one of the strongest defensive factions in their magic forests and pretty much the definition of elite soldiers (even their trashiest units pretty much never flee for me, which is usually a huge issue with the low tier units you get at the start of a campaign). They excel at laying ambushes, fighting in forests and have the best archers and some of the best cavalry in the entire game.

[@kennethfelker2619]

Villains who believe they are right,or feel that they have been wrongfully, Punished, Are Basically Most Marvel "Villains " (you say Killmonger, I agree,but I also say Magneto) Great Channel 🙂👍

[@brotquel1592]

I remember a tale in the old Ogre codex: once an ogre tyrant tried to invade an halfling village, and he was so fat whenever the halfling's blades somehow managed to pierce his skin, sauce would flow out of the wounds, instead of blood. Basically, ogre are huge men based on hun iconography. They are mountains of muscles and fat who base their whole hyerarchy on the principle "the fattest is the boss".

[@TheTrveMothlord]

Hannah, the villains in 40k or Warhammer aren't just blood and guts. That's just the front facing narrative or the ideals of the peons lost to madness at least. The character villains are almost always complex and compelling and sometimes when reading the books you forget you're following a "bad guy" due to their actions and ideals being so compelling. Especially the ones who see their brothers fall to madness but they refuse to lose sight of a goal. The Nightlords trilogy is one of the best for this in 40k. There's also the Fabius Bile trilogy too. And lastly the Black Legion series which is yet to be finished following Abaddon the Despoiler shows many endearing characteristics of some of the galaxies most notorious baddies.

[@dovahkiin456]

6:50 Those are the Wood Elves! One of the coolest factions in Warhammer. I'd suggest checking out the Twisted and the Twilight trailers to get a better look at them!

[@Noisemarine]

Always nice to see a fellow Cain fan. Certainly the most light-hearted of the 40k books always entertaining my one complaint being that they do get somewhat formulaic and samey as the series progresses and would have worked much better as a planned out 5 book series and just left at that. If you are tempted by any other 40k novels I would recommend Hellsreach by Aron Dembsky Bowden as I consider him to be blacklibraries top author at the moment. Although I am sure you have already received plenty of pleas to watch the Hellsreach animation on youtube.

[@zotaninoron3548]

Total War is its own gaming franchise that borrows eras and IPs to make Total War games. I managed to grab a free copy of Total War:Troy from Epic Games and had fun marauding all of Hellos with my tribe of Amazons.

[@TheKsalad]

Warhammer Fantasy is "what if humans discovered gunpowder before anyone else"

[@ThrashRats]

Alright, so let's see if I can try and explain this. Total War is a saga of games that are based on being a commander of an army. These have taken A LOT of historical time periods, some of the most popular ones being Total War: Shogun, Napoleonic Wars, Rome and Medieval. Meanwhile Warhammer is a fantasy setting war game (as in, a tabletop game and not a videogame) in a world were magic and things of the like exist freely. Then came Warhammer 40k which seeked to be the same style of game but on a space themed setting, but with time it begun to grow into it's own thing. So the company that makes the Total War games and that which owns the rights of Warhammer decided to unite both concepts into what we have here Total War: Warhammer (Or Total Warhammer which is much easier to say.)

[@firestorm1088]

I definitely recommend the history of total war video. The total war franchise has been my crack since college.

[@Kytharion]

"AWWW BRICKY! .... no..." Laughed so hard.

[@warbacca1017]

I just love how it's Karl Franz (guy in first video with full armor and warhammer) who gives the big speech. Poster boy had to wrangle his lords to unite the empire, so he knows what he's talking about. Also, as gross as the ogres look, PancreasNoWork did a video on why they'd actually be the best warhammer faction to live as.

[@DeMause]

Ciaphas Cain! Hero of the Imperium! Read them a long time ago but I've been listening to the audiobooks as well recently. They do an amazing job with different readers to represent the different in-universe writers.

[@TheDeathstyk]

I highly recommend the mandalore gaming videos on the total war series. He's fantastic, and gives a good break down of everything.

[@joshuaklaassen5966]

The Warhammer chaos faction "gods" are actually gods who represent both good and evil aspects. The actual story is one of people spiraling out of control into a spiral of negativity and self destruction. It is a story of taking any philosophy to extremes can create demonic hell like conditions. Very interesting setting.

[@generaldreagonlps6889]

Don't even worry about what's going on in warhammer and how things fit together. The entire franchise is basically designed to create excuses for various races to fight each other. It doesn't have to make sense. Although usually you can kinda assume that the regular people are fighting against chaos or some other monsters.

[@jesussantos7380]

Regarding villains who just like hurting people, tbh that's more legitimate than what actually occurs in the real world. A lot of Warhammer is based on history. For example, the Dark Elves resemble Marquis De Sade and the French nobility during the 1700s. It was not an uncommon practice among the elites of society to kidnap people of all ages, torture them, assault them, and many other horrors for no other reason than because they enjoyed it (this is where we get the word Sadism). Another example is the Mongols who the Orcs were based on, who would take people's bodies - living or dead - and mount them on catapults, light them on fire, and throw them back at their enemies (this is where we get the Doomdiver goblins). Or the Vampire Counts who were based on the Ottoman/Eastern European counts like Vlad the Impaler, infamous for having dinner with thousands of people mounted on pikes going through their rear and out their mouths. When you look at the biographies of these people, they all had everyday lives where they lived with their family, went to church and donated to it, served their country in war, and were genuinely good people to their friends and family. They just had a switch in their brain that said "these OTHER people are here to make me feel good, and I just happen to like cutting them apart."

[@ImperialKnight770]

As for who are they fighting. Basically the forces of evil. Beastmen, Greenskins, Northlanders and of course demons that are literally coming at them from all sides and while each nation is powerful in its own right, it's only a matter of time before they are overwhelmed hence why The Emperor (the guy with the hammer) made this proposal.

[@spellbound1875]

On the point about struggling to connect with Warhammer villains, the Chaos Gods are interesting in that despite the end results being pretty terrible they offer freedom from something unpleasant about the life of their worshipers. Khorne the God of Blood, War, Honor, etc. has Valkia the Bloody as their most favored follower. She was born into a patriarchal society which wasn't going to respect her claim to ruler ship as the chiefs daughter, nor her desire to be a warrior rather than stay at home. She took offense to that and strove to become the best warrior she could be. Khorne, who cares only about results saw her talent and rewarded her. Despite literally being blessed by their god the men in her tribe never really appreciated her as a warrior, just keeping their disapproval to themselves since she could best them all in combat (except for Kormak who wasn't a sexist asshat but would still very much lose to Valkia in single combat). Eventually when she was struck down (on a religious quest) Khorne revived her in a form more pleasing to him, by which I mean she got fangs, claws, and wings to better engage in combat. She was appointed the duty of anointing the worthy with Khorne's blessing and set out to do her Gods work since again, Khorne just cares about results. Kormak incidentally was the first to receive a blessing, being her platonic murder buddy for literally years by this point. Chaos worship is still a monkeys paw but it attracts people who initially had understandable desires which then are twisted into something hideous. Unfortunately there is no backing out from worshiping the chaos gods so many of their champions start out tragic and then decide if they are in for a penny, they're in for a pound.

[@Isvoor]

If you want to know more about the wood elves, check out the "Twisted and the Twilight" trailer!

[@bludgerabled]

6:50 That was the wood elves fighting alongside the lizardmen.

[@HannaHsOverInvested]

Ill check out that series, thanks!

[@AwesomeLionSaurus]

@@HannaHsOverInvested there are faction trailers for each faction in the game - so if you want to watch those it's like an hour worth of watching lol. Not even kidding xD If you haven't seen Total War: Warhammer 3 - Dawn of Cathay yet, that be an awesome one to see your reaction too.

[@SampoPaalanen]

The thing about mortal followers of Chaos (the "bad guys" in Warhammer be it WH40k or Warhammer fantasy (which the total war games are based) is that they don't start as "pure evil" but they start of with understandable motivations (maybe not good ones but at least ones you can understand) and over time those motivations get corrupted until there's nothing left of the original motivation and the power of the Dark Gods is both the means and the end. For example a warrior might start wanting to protect their family and loved ones, but over time the Dark Gods drive them to more and more extreme methods with person justifying it to themselves that it's for the ones they are trying to protect, until at some point they fall for good and after that point all that matters is "Blood for the Blood God, Skulls for the Skull throne!" and there's no turning back.

[@zarahandrahilde9554]

the total war series is one of those games i play endlessly on the lowest difficulty because its simply fun to stomp the AI, or play it entirely differently than the devs intended. For Khorne!!⚔

[@JakeBaldwin1]

Blood for the Blood God! Skulls for the Skull Throne!

[@EndsonLawrence]

You gotta check out the Pariah Nexus trailer next for another Warhammer video, it looks so good!

[@orderofthenightwalkers4174]

Ogres are my fav faction to be honest A lot of those extra factions in that alliance trailer one are from the other total war games and were recently added to the third. The enemy they are fighting is chaos, all the spike wearing bird demons. And those orks with the big belly, so while many of the factions have issue with each other like the elves and dwarves, to no surprise, they are not inherently evil. But the daemons and such will ruin everything. There's more to it of course, but I'm not an expert lol

[@HannaHsOverInvested]

I mean if they like to sing, I'm here for it.

[@louiscypher4996]

There's one Warhammer related video I think you would like. It's a book series. Gotrek and Felix: Warhammer's Greatest Heroes and Biggest Nobodies by PancreasNoWork He doesn't reveal anything major, but there's gonna be some light spoilers.

[@ebanker1]

The second video is the movie for the prolonge that leads into one of the lords for the main campaign, and much like 40k chaos corrupts via your mind and artifacts, like glowing red swords

[@mormacil]

So Total War is a strategy game series that tends to take on different themes for each game. Originally these were historical, samurai, knight, napoleon etc. But lately most have been this trilogy of Warhammer games. Warhammer Fantasy and 40K started both as you know as tabletop games. Fantasy heavily relies on pulp fantasy of the 80s and 40K takes an equally silly grimdark look at sci-fi. While never officially connected for decades a popular fan theory was Fantasy was essentially a isolated planet in 40K with primitive technology. But it seems Games Workshop is actively moving away from that in newer writing. But the share races like the fungal orcs, gods like chaos and have a lot of mirrors in factions. Eldar are high elves, Drukari are Dark Elves, Empire of Man is… you know. Still they’re not copies. But that’s in short how this all fits together. The makers of Total War license the Warhammer Fantasy setting for a trilogy of games. Essentially each game with expansions give you 1/3 of the main factions. Together you can play all, the first trailer celebrates that event.

[@Dezarc]

cain is a good series, i'm sure you've already been recommended it but gaunt's ghosts is another good one for a... rational human perspective in the 40k setting, and it's even fairly optimistic at points

[@justaguy8446]

I love that other people finds Warhammer awesome not “nerdy”

[@wolfgaard]

in the trailer you have a great alliance between the different races to fight evil, when you play the game it's not the same in the first rounds all the factions declare war on you directly just to piss you off ;D

[@woodhead1078]

When you talk about having trouble to understand the other side, especially with chaos it is about slow corruption, like how it is hinted at here with the sons of Kislev, to save his people one Brother decides to take up that (in my opinion quite obvious) nono-sword) to save his people. I agree with you comparison to lord of the rings, quite similar as with boromir who also wanted to use the ring for the good of his people but the power is corrupting, same as with the brother in this trailer and that sword he slowly turns more bloodthirsty and evil and in the end loses sight of the very reason he picked up the nono sword, I believe those or similar stories lie behind most of the evil (chaos) characters in warhammer (just that many of those stories are not allways directly shown), as the saying goes: The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

[@ginozancanaro3346]

it's like good vs chaos in all its possible forms: the order factions have to ally each other or else they're going to succumb. the on'e speaking is Emperor Karl Franz and there are all the other major lord form other factions: dwarves, elves and other human kingdoms. on the other side there are chaos factions (evil demons) and their allies (or slaves, doesn't matter for chaos gods) like beastmen, minotaurs ecc. in the middle there are the orks which care nothing about your allignment but will smash the shit out of you when possibility is given (and if it's not given they will do the same, just because they'r orks and orks do not care who they fight but mostly why they fight). also in the middle there are skaven, mutant humanoid rats who will nuke the hell out of you (literally they will, literally), deploy a line of heavy machine gun just because they can and occasionally will emerge from the depth of your city and swarm it in a horde of monstrosities of various genre. and last but not least vampire counts in the form of pirates (i'm not kidding, you can have pirate vampires and they're super fun to play) ancient kings of the desert now turned into angry mummies and proper vampire counts, like noble knight or necromancers turned into vampires. not to mention a race of sentient corcodiles and angry lizardmen who follows the orders of their dead ancestors and will field against you the whole of Jurassic Park. or you can field it against your foes, possibilites are endless in this game

[@divifilius]

High King Thorgrim is too harsh on Teclis(Elven Mage/Loremaster of Hoeth) who is literally the only person on that war counsel with experience in such a crisis as he was once an advisor to Emperor Magnus the Pious during the last great chaos invasion and literally taught Men how to channel the winds of magic, founding the Imperial College of Magic in Altdorf(Current seat of the Emperor Karl Franz). I'd say the difference between the Warhammer fantasy and Warhammer 40000 is that Warhammer fantasy is much more linear leading to ultimate goal and enemy (and of course there are good guys trying to do the right thing) and easy to understand than warhammer 40k where there is no distinction between good and evil just evils and lesser evils; ends justify the means. To get to know the various factions I'd recommend you watch/ react to the faction trailers for the other previous total war warhammer games.

[@GoldyTheEagle]

If you like the music sync, I recommend the chaos undivided / demon prince trailer

[@ragnarian]

If you want relatable villains, might I suggest 'LoL Arcane' It's an awesome show with amazing villains

[@Dereck1234]

so something on the villain portrayals, in a lot of the stories for warhammer you have to keep in mind that the narrator or view is always biased especially when it comes to 40k. unfortunately you only really find the other side of these factions and characters when you read the codex/army book for that faction, your still gonna get one dimensional stuff like daemons, skaven, tyranids, and orks but you can find some interesting stories on how the other factions interact when it isnt a view from the Imperial or human point of view. Also idk if you would like it but its one of my favorite warhammer fantasy series is the Gotrek & Felix novels, to summarize its about a dwarf slayer seeking a worthy doom and his human companion Felix who has pledged to witness it and record his doom in a epic poem. Love your videos!