Non-Scout Patches - Military, Trademarks, and Others

[@thomasgrau6198]

The timing of this video is really convenient! My son just earned a Junior Ranger patch after a trip to Yellowstone, and has been asking if he can put it on his uniform.

[@ScouterStan]

You can put almost anything in the “temporary” space of the right pocket. In a Troop, he can have it on the back of the merit badge sash. Glad you liked the video. YIS⚜

[@NicoRusconi49]

I met General Eisenhower on my second trip to Gettysburg in 1965, the same year as my court of honor for my Eagle rank. He is a real hero of mine. Way back then, I tried to emulate him where my my uniform was concerned. Of all the medals he had been awarded, he wore only three ribbons, the Army Distinguished Service Medal (with two oak leaf clusters), the Navy Distinguished Service Medal and the Legion of Merit. His uniform was very neat and simple. Likewise Generals Lee and Grant frequently wore simple uniforms with no rank at all. My left sleeve was like everyone else's. On my right sleeve was my screaming eagle patrol patch. On the front of my uniform, I wore only my rank and my KU-NI-EH Lodge patch. I never wore any sash at all. By the way, 90% of the time I wore the summer uniform. I had wool knee socks for the winter. It is easier to Lauder socks than clean trousers. Anyway, I don't agree that wearing less is untrustworthy.

[@ScouterStan]

Thank you so much for sharing your opinion. I agree that’s okay for normal meetings and informal occasions. Humility is an admirable character trait. President Eisenhower was above approach in honesty and trustworthiness. On the other hand, a Scout Leader at a court of honor or a solemn ceremony, it would make one think _“Why are they ashamed of or embarrassed about their awards and achievements?”_ _“Are they trying to hide something?”_ Especially giving a celebratory speech or giving out an award. Not wearing them could cause one to question the integrity or trustworthiness of the Scout leader. Thank you for expressing your thoughts on the subject. YIS⚜

[@NicoRusconi49]

@@ScouterStan Thank you for taking time to reply. There is no harm in our agreeing to disagree. One thing we do agree on is that everyone should wear a complete and correct uniform on all occasions (don’t get me started on my beloved campaign hat). After age 70 one ought to quilt having opinions, or at least voicing them and instead leave things to you younger men. My Scouting career very much overlapped the Civil War Centenial. I have lots of stories but no one has any interest in them by this time, 60 years on. You have a great channel. Keep up the good work.

[@CreachterZ]

I’d like to hear your stories, Don.

[@ScouterStan]

@Tristanxlix After age 70 _(Tribal Elder)_ , you're the one we should listen to. I want your opinions and need you to voice them to younger Scouts. It’s true that with age comes wisdom. Younger people need you and your wisdom to help in times of need. It's unfortunate that people discard wisdom and do so at their peril. Keep commenting here as we need you and your insight. Thank you for being a critical part of Scouting. YIS⚜

[@ScouterStan]

@jzekeb1 Meee Tooo! YIS⚜

[@cahlash]

Great idea about sewing stuff to the -inside- of the OA sash!

[@ScouterStan]

Glad you liked it! YIS⚜

[@cschoat]

I was a member of the Ma-Ka-Ja-Wan Lodge when I was stationed at then Fort Sheridan, Illinois back between 1985 and 1987.

[@ScouterStan]

I went threw my Ordeal in 1980. The following year I made Eagle Scout and turned 18. I stayed with my troop unit in 1983 when school and career took over. Moved back home to Florida in 1985. YIB⚜

[@cschoat]

@@ScouterStan It truely is a small world when you think about it. I just missed meeting you by a year. My original Lodge was Shu-Shu-Gah #14 in Brooklyn, NY (1979-1984) then Ma-Ka-Ja-Wan (1985-1987, earned Brotherhood with them), Black Eagle Lodge (Europe, 1987-1989), And with the exception of two years while serving in South Korea (Achpateuny Lodge, 1994-1995 and 2000) my home lodge of Quelqueshoe 166 here in Calcasieu Area Council.

[@ScouterStan]

I only have the two lodges myself, Ma-Ka-Ja-Wan (Ordeal) and Tipisa (Brotherhood & Vigil). My best friend's brother Steve was the Ma-Ka-Ja-Wan Chief at that time and tapped me out. Sadly Steve died in a car accident the following year. YIB🔺

[@jmarshallable1]

Great video Stan. I still have a lot of scout patches.

[@ScouterStan]

Let's get putting them on a camp blanket. You could get Jimmy to do it? LOL YIS⚜

[@markbrown2640]

One of my Philmont crewmates traded his Field Uniform shirt for a Japanese uniform shirt.

[@ScouterStan]

The Asian and European Scouts tend to trade whole shirts and neckerchief sets. I know stories of trading camp blankets, bedazzled with badges and patches of all kinds. It would be simpler to trade just patches, but it's amazing the trading between scouts of the world. YIS⚜

[@markbrown2640]

I have seen Marin County (California) Scouting patches with Star Wars characters, space ships and symbols on them. I was under the impression that George Lucas himself authorized these patches. I doubt that this can happen now that Disney owns Star Wars.

[@ScouterStan]

I don’t think it could be licensed. Especially now with Disney. YIS⚜

[@CreachterZ]

I’ve got that red jacket!

[@ScouterStan]

In Scouting, there are two types of red jackets. The classic “red felt” (wool) camping jacket and the nylon blazer. For many years this was the classic leader jacket. Although it is not restricted in any way for youth to wear. The price difference however is considerable between the two types of jackets. Thank you for contributing to our discussion. YIS⚜

[@bigmaninthewoods]

In the UK occasional badges go on the left side above the world membership badge, not on the right like you do in America.

[@ScouterStan]

Every uniform around the world puts patches/badges in different places. It's amazing that there are so many different locations for different uniforms. Always check locally before putting a patch on otherwise you'll just end up moving it to another location. Of course, putting the fun patches on a campfire blanket or jacket is totally up to you. Good to hear from you Mark, glad you liked the video. YIS⚜

[@claytonhusted]

I have a question about a jacket. I have a Olive Drab green bomber jacket that I wear when we do events outdoors and it is a little chilly. I wanted to put some patches on them. Namely flags of all the countries I've been to. Is there a Scout Regulation about flag patches?

[@ScouterStan]

The only regulations that Scouting has is in regards to the uniform. Any other clothing that is not part of the uniform is fair game. I think it would look good with all the flags on it. I've seen very elaborate jackets at campfires with lots of patches on them. It's a great way to start a conversation about different places you have been. I say go for it. YIS⚜

[@rustyb4090]

My pack are going to be penpals with a cub unit in New Zealand and I sent them some of our council patches

[@ScouterStan]

That’s awesome! The world of Scouting is wonderful. Have fun. YIS⚜

[@turdl38]

oh man, I'd LOVE some kiwi patches. Visited as a teenager and fell in love with the nation.

[@lukecapria8925]

Let me see if I understand this correctly, on the back of the sash the scout can sew on patches that they earned from summer camp, or jamboree or NOVA. Can they also sew on patches that they earned from cub scouts on the back of the sash?

[@ScouterStan]

I don’t think there are any real guidelines regarding patches on the back of the sash. The only line in the insignia guide states “Temporary patches may only be worn on the back of the sash.” Temporary Patches can also be worn on the right pocket. Merit badges themselves have only two places, the right long sleeve (up to 6) and the sash. The sash is only worn in Scouts BSA and Venture, not Cub Scouts, Sea Scouts, and adults. The OA sash is never worn with the merit badge sash. I hope this answers your questions, please let me know if I missed anything. Thanks YIS⚜

[@huebsmusic]

Hey, I never knew you were originally apart of Ma-Ka-Ja-Wan Lodge 40! That’s my lodge :) When did you leave the area or the lodge?

[@ScouterStan]

I lived up in Northeast Illinois and did my Ordeal in Wisconsin with the Ma-Ka-Ja-Wan lodge in 1980. In 1981 I became an Eagle Scout and turned 18. I finished schooling and got married and moved back home to Florida in 1985. My career took me all over and didn't have children until 1993. 9/11 got me to reconsider my life purpose like most people. I rejoined Scouting in 2002 with my son. I didn’t get too much out of the lodge in the eleven months I had left in my scouting at the time. Steve Larson was the lodge chief at my Ordeal Tap-Out. He was the brother of my best friend in high school. YIB⚜

[@turdl38]

I think fun/unique patrol patches are under-utilized. There's so many options that exist already and so many more that fit within BSA regulations!

[@ScouterStan]

I feel the same way. YIS⚜

[@bigmaninthewoods]

I add mine either onto my Camp Blanket or my Scout Bag