Best Submissions! Womens Judo at Tbilisi Grand Slam 2023 Day 1

Best Submissions! Womens Judo at Tbilisi Grand Slam 2023 Day 1
0:00 ashi-gatame?(armlock with legs) Jessica Klimkait
1:07 canto choke BAVUUDORJ BAASANKHUU
1:28 kata-ha-jime (single wing strangle) CAPANNI DIAS THAUANY DAVID
1:44 juji-gatame 1 (armbar) DIYORA KELDIYOROVA
2:02 juji-gatame 2 DIYORA KELDIYOROVA
2:23 juji-gatame 3 DIYORA KELDIYOROVA
2:44 sankaku-jime Veronica Toniolo
3:19 Choke out Andrea Stojadinov

[@angelsjoker8190]

Very nice display of skills by the Judoka, not so much by the refs...

[@Zabbaaar]

Amazing Ne-waza video. 👍🏻👏🏼 Referee was sleeping. The blue judoka fell unconcious since 3:32 😱 it took about 7 seconds for the referee to realize that she was unconcious, and announce the IPPON.

[@MiauZi69]

could have killed her ... the leg was already shaking early

[@Sam-rb1id]

Shocking! I never want to see someone still being choked when they are already out. Ref needs to do better in future

[@rikishi555]

judo referees are so useless. they be like "if he (she) dies, he (she) dies"

[@bear0478]

Love your vids and your take on the current Judo scene. Funny bit at the end describing the female judoka going unconscious. "I don't know when she went out but she certainly is now" ... .. lol

[@judojudo3808]

Good compilation. It is very good you included my favourite huizinga roll by Jessica Klimkat against very quality opponent. And yes she finished this contest by ashi gatame technique. She controlls opponent's arm the all time therefor she has not problem with first opponent's escape. After second roll she started osaekomi ushiro kesa gatame again and at 0:52 she add ashi gatame with it (she stretchs right leg and elevates left knee at the same time). Then opponent have to tap immediately.

[@garycarmean4072]

Beautiful technique.

[@Matto_Harvo]

Refs quickly onto an unconscious judoka again.

[@bjarneschmalbach1524]

Haha, just took him about 10 seconds and tori letting go to notice it

[@killer3000ad]

IJF refs are infamous for letting the choked out judoka see Valhalla.

[@bjarneschmalbach1524]

@@killer3000ad Or, as much as it pains me to say this, they just don't recognize what is actually going on on the ground...

[@Fqq69337]

Do these refs even practice judo? There is a pattern since the Grand Slam Paris 2023. Some of these refs are extremely inexperience and don’t know what’s going on the ground :/

[@bjarneschmalbach1524]

@@Fqq69337 Sadly this is modern Judo in many places. Ground game gets completely cut off unless its about holding a pin - or escaping it, usually by going to turtle. I am still baffled by the fact that 99% of Judo players have absolutely no guard, no retention, no recovery, nothing.

[@keiking3242]

様々な体勢からの絞め技や関節技があるのですね。

[@bundes]

Very nice vids like always. Do you've some tate shiho, rib crusher or sankaku of female Judo for us? Thanks a lot. Best regards

[@non-stopnewaza9266]

I just added another vid with a sankaku-jime. I will do something on tate-shiho in the future. By rib crusher, do you mean the type of pinning where they pull the bottom of the jacket across the stomach?

[@dibach70]

Some of the officiating seems poor. That last competitor was choked out and the ref is just standing there...?

[@vittocrazi]

Its sadly pretty common in judo competitions. Specially bow and Arrow chokes

[@horacioks]

In the last fight (Choke out Andrea Stojadinov), the referee was distant and it took a long time to end the fight

[@alq2182]

Yea that ref sucks How do they even get a position like that with such little knowledge on what an unconscious person looks like in a grappling match

[@user-cv3vj7vy3t]

ай..да Диера молодцы!!!...и в партере и в стойке 🎉 самое главное..на ОИ в такой форме будьте..не перетренируйтесь !...

[@gardennovice7896]

Andrea Stojadinov just chilling after strangling someone

[@Wyland42]

What are the refs there for?

[@dafullclip]

The women go extra hard.

[@Contagious93812]

She could've done a victory pose on that last woman, literally no referee

[@nofloornerdsendofline5340]

That oma-plata set up from turtle top was wild. I rewatched that 10 times

[@judojudo3808]

I'am not surprised. It is one of the most beautiful transitions to newaza. Here is really great execution of it.

[@ericcallender1575]

Dang!!

[@benm5913]

Lol Klimkait made Silva very clearly tap because the Brazilian Tap isn't just a Jiu-jitsu thing. Lol.

[@sushinfudoshin8991]

On the last fight, that referee needs to be suspended for few months for incompetence

[@johnnyfountainS]

I Love Ryoko Tani. I don't think Ryoko Tani made Team Japan this year though.

[@samisalem-xe8yw]

I have noticed most Ref's in Judo are the worst to stop the fights when somebody is choked out, they need to educate them to check the opponent if he or she is out and not just standing like a fool looking from far away

[@KingMob4313]

0:57 - when both grapplers are like "Uh, please pay attention ref" it's just an embarrassment to the sport.

[@manueldelapaz4450]

brazilian tap 😅😅😅

[@nn22939]

@@manueldelapaz4450 you son of??????

[@Mesozoic_mammal]

Funny how judo refs always seem to be more focused on looking good in their suits, rather than looking if the person getting choked is still there. They NEVER bother to move closer, maybe get down, or walk around the competitors if necessary. No they always have to hover high above the action, preferrably at the other end of the mat and if the competitors are in a bad angle, well then it is their problem!

[@turntablesrockmyworld9315]

It's interesting how BJJ has now directly influenced modern ne waza in Judo, through emphasis, time limits for ne waza and styles of attack. I trained Judo in 1980s and early 1990s and the ne waza applications often looked fairly different than today.

[@m5a1stuart83]

Not likely, Judo already has its own Newaza System. Influence by BJJ? not likely. In BJJ, Newaza is a slow pace while Judo is hard and fast.

[@turntablesrockmyworld9315]

@@m5a1stuart83 Hi, yes, it definitely has influenced it and in some Judo tournmanets now, time on ground is extended. Many Judoka cross-train in BJJ skill-sets. As I said, I trained Judo pre-UFc/BJJ and groundwork/ne-waza, most due to time limits and rules, was much more basic in application.

[@zartic4life]

Influenced how? Styles of attack? What does that even mean? All I saw was classic Judo.

[@turntablesrockmyworld9315]

@@zartic4life The lack of time limits or in sport BJJ, extended time limits, and the early emphasis on refinement through prize fighting changed it much from Judo.I trained Judo in the early 80s through to mid-1990s and ne waza strategy, most of the time, a few seconds given, was different. Strategies and tactics from guard, etc. that never existed began to develop in probably the late 1970s with more people practicing in Brazil. I trained with Judoka from Korea, Poland, the U.S., and France and never saw or experienced most of what constituted to systemization of techniques with in BJJ, and strategies and tactics. There were basic essences and early BJJ was very similar albeit with fighting applications. BJJ cross-training started in Judo, at least here, in the late 1990s, and BJJ refined the ne waza of many Judoka who only had a cursory techniques. Now, there are many Judoka who cross-train in BJJ groundwork.

[@zartic4life]

@@turntablesrockmyworld9315 im not sure what tactics youre refering to and what refinement? Watch some Kosen (ruleset) Judo. Newaza is an extension (not seperate like BJJ) of tachi in other words your position will be very different than in bjj where almost always in somones guard. Not a great place to be as Khabib illustrated (ground and pound) something Judo refers to as a "last resort after a failed attempt" as it should be in any self defence scenario. My point is BJJ has nothing over Judo when it comes to ground techniques and the tactics used are a result of BJJ rulesets and lack of stand up. The ground game that Judo implements is far more effective in any serious confrontation instead of the playful "flow", jumping guard and butt scooting you see in BJJ. Not a smart tactic in any real world scenario. Just compare the speed and intensity of Judo newaza vs BJJ. I'll pick the first one for any combat situation. I'll ignore the fact BJJ has almost no stand up something that is critical for any self defence and will allow for more effective newaza if necessary. If I throw you I wont be in your guard I'll either be in side control, on top, or on your back. Then you can use newaza to finish not play transition and tactical games with your opponent something BJJ people cant seem to wrap their heads around.

[@CarlosAlbertoBrasil]

Judo Ne-waza is funny

[@slugnaholowaa7406]

When you're worried about being thrown and forget about submissions.

[@ronthibault1853]

Wow, these women were straight up gangsta - quickly seizing an opening (submitting) & ending the match with top notch precision - especially that last choke out.

[@marcobala9284]

These look like ibjjf tournament

[@user-zb3xk9nr9b]

最後の動画は、最初アゴを絞めているので厳密にいえば「白」の反則。 運用としては、道着がアゴにかかっているのが見えた時点で「待て」をかけるのが妥当です。 しかし、もっとひどいのは3：35でダラッと脚が伸びて落ちていることがわかるのに そのまま試合を続けている点です。その後役10秒間落ちた状態で絞め続けられていました。 審判は選手の安全を第一にジャッジして欲しいものです。 Loses consciousness at 3:35. After that, it was continued to be strangled for about 10 seconds. The referee is unaware of it.Terrible(*_*;

[@hubb123456]

Wow, these ladies are vicious! Almost more so than jujitsu?

[@zartic4life]

Judo is Jujitsu (JJJ->Judo->BJJ). The viscousness comes from the fact your not watching a BJJ match.

[@ReisterJP]

Almost? Somebody has never seen Ryoko Tani roll aka "Timura" the GOAT of female grapplers.

[@kgill99]

I know Judo historically had subs but thought nowadays it was mainly throws?

[@Karen-fs6lf]

Not true

[@virtualsocialretreat8234]

yes, mainly throws. but this is a ne waza channel. as in, submissions. very much still a thing

[@rafaelcarrera9436]

I wish submissions in gi BJJ were more aggressive like in Judo. Not every gi competitor of course, but easily the majority of matches, regardless of organization, seem to play out like a deadlock of just holding collar and sleeve grips with very little action. Even in the Mundials this unfortunately has been the case.

[@ermelemoon7104]

the submissions don't need to be agressive to win a match

[@rafaelcarrera9436]

@@ermelemoon7104 Sorry, I meant aggressive in terms of willingness to attempt them at a greater frequency, not aggressive by simply muscling/forcing a submission without any degree of control.

[@ermelemoon7104]

@@rafaelcarrera9436 I think, with all of respect, that is not the strenght or the frequency, is more the timing or the moment of the execution ^^

[@ReisterJP]

It's a differnt mindset in judo the best sub is the fastest you only have a small window 3 seconds or less to even try for a submission before ref stand you up and in judo you can not be passive you always have to be tring to win or you will get a shido for being passive.

[@boardgamer447]

Nice Judo, sleepy ref. 😴

[@designbookInc]

Man I’m a jiu-Jitsu white belt and I am thinking: why this girls not defend the arm lock? Is not hard.. Anyways great fights and falls!

[@Karen-fs6lf]

Bjj people do not understand the intesty of judo from standing to the ground the speed the strength sometimes you have no time to defend why didn't royce defend the Ezekiel choke from yoshida

[@designbookInc]

@@Karen-fs6lf is not criticism is only a doubt. I dont see any trying to defend the arm lock. Even if I couldn't, I would try.

[@woent4327]

@@designbookInc judo is very Quick and powerfull. Your arm can get locked up before you have time to react. Sometimes you expect a hold and then suddenly they got your arm

[@zartic4life]

Because that's what happens when you don't ignore the stand up portion of Jujitsu.

[@okramoffacebook1381]

Judo has evolved like f

[@robertcampbell8070]

I don't feel like it's evolved, it's gone back to the roots and started using all of its techniques again. One of the problems with combat sports that have olympic representation is they get watered down into ONLY the techniques that consistently score points at the olympic level. It happened with judo, karate and TKD.

[@beyonder1768]

WTF are these refs doing? The last sub the woman in blue was being choked past unconsciousness.

[@andersnielsen6044]

Is that not the idea with the sport?

[@beyonder1768]

@@andersnielsen6044 The idea of the sport isn’t to kill your opponent dummy. She was unconscious for 7 or 8 seconds still getting choked and the referee did not stop the choke. No, that’s not the point of the sport.

[@nn22939]

It's a sport for animals.

[@nomedigaasi]

@@nn22939 the participants are only focusing on winning their match. It seems that any humanitarian sensibility goes out the window once they start grappling, so it’s up to the ref to protect any Judokas from serious injuries but that’s not the case because the refs all appear to be incompetent.

[@horstreznizek1922]

Hier übt man den Sport mit Respekt und Fairness aus WOW

[@John-pj5ps]

There is submissions in Judo? i though u "only" needed to get ur opponent to the ground

[@woent4327]

Depends. They need to Land on their back to score a point. Or else they need to submit or held down clean on their back

[@user-te4yk1mh8g]

Looks like the refs aren't used to recognizing some of the BJJ techniques making their way into Judo nowadays.

[@virtualsocialretreat8234]

you've gotta be kidding

[@LIONTAMER3D]

D Ceased

[@abeljuniorjunior]

Nada legal ver as brasileiras- conhecidas por darem ênfase ZERO ao Ne waza e, uma delas ter sido aluna do fenômeno Flávio Canto perderem no chão...A primeira com uma imobilização/submissão do Omoplata e, a seguinte com um Canto choke.😢

[@JanleeBR]

Women's! Until you know (who) get there😢

[@huynhanhtrungtin]

the hell is wrong with the refs ...

[@healtheworld2059]

Why aren't submissions used in judo as much as in BJJ? Btw, shame on the referee for not checking on the unconscious judoka. Absolutely ugly

[@zhizhik33]

Суддя не компетентний, не баче серйозність проведення техніки, ще й замість того щоб виконати дії з відновлення спортсмена стоїть маше руками, ганьба.

[@boogboog8097]

1980's judo International organisations decided to make judo more watchable for non judoka eg the Olympics with the belief it would become more popular. Yes they destroyed 100 years of history and organic Judo development for that reason. I switched to bjj and mma because I learned my judo in the 80's from guys who in the 60's were taught by guys who learned in the 40's. It wasn't so long ago in a generational sense.

[@healtheworld2059]

@@boogboog8097 are you saying that at a time it was closer to BJJ than it is today?

[@boogboog8097]

@@healtheworld2059 Yes look up Kosen judo.

[@pcprinciple3774]

@@healtheworld2059 Yes, 1980s Judo and BJJ were basically the same

[@roeramataroria2159]

Unless ref again.

[@barycza]

Beautiful sport - two ladies trying to hurt or kill eachother.

[@andreaaiazzi4501]

refs reactions are always too slow, it's scary

[@CohnmanTheBudbarian]

It's nice to see just real woman competing here.

[@thecacoph817]

weird comment

[@marlon1171]

How fucking slow of a reaction from that moron referee to attend to that judoka who was unconscious... Her neck was also twisted in a very bad way, i hope she didn't break it.. Hope she's alright!

[@judojudo3808]

Yes she was alright very quickly. It wasn't as dangerous as looked it. Her neck is alright too. When Tori (attacker) use this technique she trying to tight up opponent's collar around opponent's neck as here. It is ok. Uke (defender) can tap and Tori have to finish attack. But here Uke is out before tap. You can see how Tori showed it to referee at 3:37 and she loosens opponent's collar little bit. But referee doesn't react and she forced tight again...Problem is referee's behaviour he could call ippon earlier and to finish match immediately.

[@marlon1171]

@@judojudo3808 : I didn't even see when tori showed that she was already out at 3:37... but i noticed how her body became soft right away and i knew was out... The referee's shocking incompetence forced tori to continue to choke out even longer after she already had been out.... That could of been quiet dangerous and every second counts and that idiot would of been responsible. I would allow that guy to referee any judo matches of any level or any other sports ever again.

[@judojudo3808]

@@marlon1171 Yes Tori (white judoka) is comunicating obviously at 3:37 with referee and left hand shows him that opponent is out. You look this moment better because she feels that opponent is out.

[@andersnielsen6044]

If she was alright she would never had taken part of this male-entertaining freak show of destruction!

[@judojudo3808]

@@andersnielsen6044 Excuse me. You know anything about this sport probably.

[@Mesozoic_mammal]

"If he dies, he dies" Judo refs whenever a choke is on

[@johnnyfountainS]

Dolph is too big for Judo.

[@roberto3778]

Os médicos ficam assistindo a luta sem prestar atenção no que está acontecendo. A judoca inconsciente no chão e a demora absurda no atendimento.LAMENTAVEL

[@thelegend312]

Terrible judo ref's.. in bjj this gets picked up so much quicker..

[@rocket5557]

Horrible ref on the last one.

[@virtualsocialretreat8234]

what's with the bewildered bjj practitioners here. it's just ne waza. it's even on the name of the channel! oh and that one bewildered judoka trying to get at bjj because this is "no throws only gracie bullshit". come on

[@No_Moo_Hyun]

3:33 This stupid referee doesn't know if a player is knocked out. Doctors are being called without even thinking about securing a fainting player's airway.

[@timeb9300]

To counter all these chokes don't wear a gi

[@rosstrent1877]

Why are Judo refs such trash?

[@Pedzinho]

judo's referee its so lame! omfg!

[@johndecker7881]

Really silly crap .

[@erico4537]

Damn!! Chick was out!! The fact that no one rushed to assist was disgusting