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NIGMA vs TNC Predator - GROUP STAGE - WEPLAY KYIV 2021 ANIMAJOR DOTA 2

[@DarkRedZane]

100% Winrate Mars and Invoker only to get broken by a POS 1 Magnus KEKW

[@OrangeNaSquare]

Miracle 100% winrate on Invoker TNC: "Allow us to reintroduce ourselves"

[@denniswilliam960]

Armel is awesome, it's the second time i see him getting focused early game, and somehow he managed to recover from it again, he's just too good

[@chargemanken144]

I noticed in game 2 Nigma is trying to break his game. They were sniping him early to mid game. Lesh is a good comeback hero though, and they let magnus and pango free farm in the process.

[@roypaoloreal897]

Miracle having TNC flashbacks again KEKW

[@istanthem785]

So sad no one gives credit to boomy man placing sentry wards in triangle camp and taking all the smoke gank by nigma to make good space for the team well played sir 👍👍👏👏

[@nikhilmule8968]

Agreed man boombacs really played well,but sometimes there is unusual feeding from him like dying solo while dewarding.

[@philcaz9039]

@@nikhilmule8968 have you played position 5? Position 5 is a risk taker support. Warding dangerous spots is needed to have better advantage. The only problems that i see is that he miss alot when using skills, but it can happen especially when youre playing with high tier players. Boomy and bok really need the experience to fight tier1 teams.

[@nikhilmule8968]

@@philcaz9039 The 2-0 against EG he made lots of mistakes which led them lose the momentum and game,still he is very good player.Btw I play pos 5 in divine bracket..

[@reznat94]

TNC bans 7 support heroes in game 2. If that is not a sign of respect to kuro and gh, I don't know what is.

[@rexd1624]

shit talking again?

[@louuu3201]

that was a sign that their cores are sht if not for supports

[@jemwelflor7191]

Stop the banning

[@polytibar6230]

that is the sign that they have big brains

[@IlkhomOlimov]

@@polytibar6230 agree

[@TheHellsWrongWithU]

TNC is not just pinoy pride, but SEA pride. We may be divided in a lot of ways, but we support every SEA teams that have the chance to compete against other regions. Even other SEA players that play for other teams such as midone,abed,iceiceice. PutangInaNyo. Good plays from tnc, consistency will win you ti's.

[@morone91]

i hate pinoy in pubs, but their pro team is good. always consistent with their result wpwp

[@fernandoferari2895]

TI ? It's too far 🤣

[@aryafebryan7242]

Keep dreamin idiot, sea pride my ass

[@nikhilmule8968]

There are many Malaysians like Nothing to Say,JT,Oli,xnova who also plays for Chinese teams

[@getbox2339]

@@morone91playing with kids. What do you expect?

[@user-oe6hb2ut3t]

if nigma won this series, you would already see a trending nigma vs tnc match discussion in reddit. perhaps too many fans got disappointed so you see nothing on reddit

[@jasonlee7928]

Damn tnc be writing stories in their heads. Its so funny tnc beat nigna ib one series and all the tnc fans just have a circle jerk dude just chill its not a big deal

[@user-oe6hb2ut3t]

@@jasonlee7928 you don't get my point, if any match VS big teams like OG, secret, EG or nigma, a discussion would be trending on reddit by now.

[@kingseiryu929]

@@jasonlee7928 let the tnc fans have their moment. Tnc beat nigma fair and square

[@Erik10hag10]

I hate nigma. Nigma lose please out of dota

[@diggedboy2333]

@@user-oe6hb2ut3t coz of reddit has majority europeans and americans can't be helped

[@Hehe-he2dr]

14:25 gabbi having brain damage

[@ひろゆき二十一]

God, I would have loved to see the live chat saying TNC weakest team. Lol

[@wisnu1114]

Yeah it's happen too in sea DPC. They say T1 weakest team and the dominate Sea. I hope Sea team go far in this major

[@jpaksgwapito775]

They are.. Pls don't be so dumb we all know.

[@Pagabangan]

@@jpaksgwapito775 ow okay hahah saying that from the team who just won the game :3 enjoy dota dude you have too much hate hahaha

[@markglenapas625]

@@jpaksgwapito775 how much?

[@nethermir2169]

@@jpaksgwapito775 Peenoise hating on pignoy.

[@s3a_07]

Miracle is having ti6 flashbacks

[@lalajun5902]

Unexpected win from TNC. That's why you dont believe in 100% winrate MC mars and Miracle Invoker. TNC played really well in this match

[@wk6001]

Actually it was not unexpected tbh. Tnc has just struggled against eg. Otherwise they were performing pretty well. Against eg also it took rtz's master class performance otherwise tnc had a big chance to draw the series.

[@alextorrenueva2618]

Not Unexpected and TNC lose NOT to the Skills of RTZ but to the drafts of TB & DK (not seeing yet that kind of combo) which is YOU can do it now (TB & DK) on Pub Games too. Those Panelists don't know the SEA DOTO and it's moving forward, they should change their minds now after this game.

[@Maughki]

iLTW = I Let TNC Win

[@luckyjaybarangan6776]

BSJ got toasted here😂😂😂, BSJ SELF PROCLAIM GENIUS.😂😂

[@Unkown0002]

As a Nigma fan, i must admit that TNC played better and deserved the win. But it also will help Nigma to know what they need to improve for the next matches.

[@noahruanchang4125]

CASTERS were so BIAS... Underestimated so much the TNC.Predator... hahahha

[@brylestephen9761]

tnc played this game patiently. the keyword is patience. Nigma wasnt able to capitalize on their early aggression fights and forced them to do mistakes. TNC waited for the right timing and greatly capitalized on it. One RP and already a 9k gold swing. Nigma's strat involves early and continuous pressure (based on their recent games). TNC stalled them to the point all of their players have enough items to secure crucial teamfights

[@tekatoanimeyt3206]

Your comment hurts miracle fangays feelings bro😭😂

[@craigpetalcorin3202]

And they say it was a "throw" by Nigma. When in fact they just followed what they thought was best but still got thrashed by TNC not once but twice

[@brylestephen9761]

@@tekatoanimeyt3206 i don't get them. It's true that tnc didn't play flawlessly, but nigma made tons of mistakes that costed them the game. TNC showed discipline in both games. Plus they are one of the SEA owerhouses and that's the good thing about the dpc system right now, every region has their own best representatives

[@brylestephen9761]

@@craigpetalcorin3202 they failed to continue their aggressive playstyle in mid game which TNC capitalized. Roaming without getting kills while your opponent team just continues to farm will give them advantage in late game One example of their continuous aggression was when they fought OG in eu upper division. That clockwerk + tiny combo really paid off

[@goback3spaces603]

in other words Nigma didnt lose, its just that TNC won

[@hudanradifan]

12:38 -200 IQ

[@xdeidream6427]

🤣🤣🤣

[@StealthBlack210]

nigma fanbois: miracle invoker and mindcontrol mars never lose TNC: Hold my magnus empower.

[@fahimannaim2517]

Tell that when tnc got the trophy

[@tonton7568]

@@dotalord6665 What tnc won in 5 years? LOL esl one hamburg and mdl chengdu? rings a bell?are living in a cave?

[@mellordcasilla9270]

@ton ton OG kicked Nigma's (liquid) asses so hard even their fans forgot what happened 5 yrs ago 🤣😭

[@fusilism]

@@fahimannaim2517 win is still a win what's your point

[@yoko_13]

@@mellordcasilla9270 it was OG bro

[@式守-y4w]

I saw some reply in some comments like saying nigma throw the game. Nah dude TNC just outplaying them even the casters are even biased of their draft and nigma early game is on point but nigma make some mistakes and TNC takes that oppurtunity to comeback and win the game. GGWP TNC 2x sweep in day 2 against bc and nigma

[@jonathanchan711]

Not taking away anything from TNC, but I feel like what does feel throwy about Nigma is that they UNDERESTIMATED them. Mistakes happen, sure, but being lax is on them. Gg tnc, come back stronger Nigma

[@noobbuddycantdragmedown2607]

@@jonathanchan711 that is rather the case maybe...they think they can let lose againts tnc because eg 2-0 them...but tnc also have experient player in there and not some underdog team...they are all skilled player

[@realnigga6903]

@Hazel NA Dota is the most boring ..They dont even have a good team in Na except EG and almost all of the players of NA are from SEA and EU

[@Ame-pt4el]

@Hazel still salty your BC got stomped earlier before that match lmao cant believe tnc won game 1, when TA was heavily countered by batrider and PL

[@realnigga6903]

@Hazel beastcoast cant win againts sea .. beastcoast server is NA .. the weakest region of all ..

[@misterliker5173]

Miracle has phobia playing against TNC. Feels like ti6 again

[@gabatorigelvincentr.2895]

Yes bro haha almost all matches of miracle against tnc he loses Idk why.

[@edgardphilips1481]

Ti9? Ptsd? Lol

[@hakuryuuren3359]

Twitch chat prediction on this game: 90% Nigma | 10% TNC.

[@jamomoritz6763]

I predicted for tnc, since I don't have anyone to root for anymore, since my most hated boy w33 legt.

[@abrpp]

This proves why nigma in wildcard and TNC in group stage at first

[@wanman6379]

TNC = Kryptonite of Miracle since 2016

[@candrarazaka4351]

Not in 2019 though Edit: yeah I know TI9 TNC rekt miracle so hard in the GS, but TNC got rekt in the main stage 😁😁 Reversed from TI6 though (TNC 2-0ed in the GS, and then eliminate OG in the main event)

[@danielramas8054]

@@candrarazaka4351 no shit

[@candrarazaka4351]

@@danielramas8054 that was true

[@danielramas8054]

@@candrarazaka4351 no shit sherlock

[@remyclemente5810]

Tnc is actually Nigma's Cryptonite lol

[@netaneltannhauser8888]

every half decent team is sigma's crytonite, they are not good, they only won against the the #8 seed, liquid, and the number #6 seed spirit, they are a bad team, they can't win vs the top 4

[@WinterSnowism]

@@netaneltannhauser8888 They can win against Secret, sir.

[@shanoaritz1314]

Nigma 0-2 No wonder no Hype Title From NoobFromUA

[@biboydomingo7520]

"TNC the weakest team in the group" -BSJ 2021

[@jagabe9680]

When did he say that.

[@xavierstoned]

banana shitstain jamma

[@hanselninogungob2519]

Fuvk BSJ , can i ask for a clip where BSJ said it?

[@EngrGuil]

He said it before the EG vs BC 1st game draft

[@ukinam1786]

BSJ account buyer.

[@antonioangelo4824]

LOGIC: If Nigma lose, they throwed, if other teams lose, they're noob. haizzz, SMH>>

[@nnk9305]

THEREFORE WE CONCLUDE: Nigma Fans: “Nigma Throw” = Excuse

[@tekatoanimeyt3206]

Nigma fans are bunch of miracle fangays cancers

[@andiumdigital7584]

@@nnk9305because there is no w33 to blame anymore and that's there only excuse 😂

[@cinder9529]

SEA boys are not dead, guys. Look how strong they are!

[@kentsky3680]

Actually is not TNC strong, apparently Nigma made too many mistake, that's we call THROW. (In our Chinese opinion, this is call 菜(noob) ，tmd Nigma 给那么多机会开送，iLTW 真有你的！明着送呗！)

[@Ley-I]

@@kentsky3680 look how TNC banned all the heroes of Kuroky and GH. It is an outdraft man you can't call Nigma noob or throwing both teams are playing in an international level

[@kentsky3680]

@@Ley-I Nigma is not noob, they really looks like ti7 form for now, but their core player throw it, which iLTW, once their core carry dead, whole team GG. I feel sad for gh and Miracle, they are doing so well in this tournament.

[@KevinTroy777]

@@kentsky3680 They got beaten by their 100% winrate heroes... Lol it just means they were shutdown by TNC so bad... Just accept it...

[@junaidnakhwa7124]

Sea always get dead at ti main event day 1 heehehe

[@truonghuy9611]

Wow TNC is just soooooo good! They keep their heads cool and have some crucial decisions leading to victories!!! Respect 👌

[@darwizzyisjesus]

8:50 that refresher blink by gabbi to kill gh dieback so sexy

[@LoxD123]

ILTW = I Let TNC Win

[@carlcarlson3198]

lol

[@xmaloneers8481]

hahah godd@mn your beautiful

[@denniswilliam960]

agent spotted, nice eye you have

[@alvinderosa6234]

Haha. Kwento mo sa lola mo

[@fitt4393]

Nice one 😂

[@mufdannzig6698]

ILTW = I Let Tnc Win

[@muhiddenmisbak5915]

Sad boi

[@nischalraya8898]

20mins score 19-21 30mins score 19-22 did they call a temporary truce?

[@Tauan_Vitor]

From: "Miracle invo mid = autowin" To: "kick iLTW" Miracle fans in a nutshell...

[@patrickhelmin3216]

To bring to w33? Are you crazy are you a proplayer to know what's going on in your damn mind?

[@xRenRipper]

I try to find the kick ILTW comment seem like you the one only say , are you Ligma fans ? Or miracle fangay ?

[@Tauan_Vitor]

@@xRenRipper keep trying.

[@noobbuddycantdragmedown2607]

@@xRenRipper he is delisiunal🤣🤣🤣....that what happen when there is soo much hate in ur heart....

[@xRenRipper]

@@noobbuddycantdragmedown2607 i just remember he is OG fans , maybe change to ligma cause OG so trash can even reach major group stage , and now his new fav team get trash by pagpag pride

[@gabrielmangohig2637]

That viper pick is so good against ursa and mars

[@Baens.G]

Esp it is hitter rather than sustaining

[@gabrielmangohig2637]

@@Baens.G slow range stun damage tank you got it

[@gabrielmangohig2637]

I mean poison not stun

[@tews4403]

10:30 Three man useless chrono

[@roronoazoro7655]

Hahahahahahhahahahahahaha

[@markh9755]

Miracle having flashbacks again KEKW

[@BertzVarquez]

TnC asusual performs well on LAN than online.

[@HappyGrower]

TNC is the weakest team in this tournament - BSJ

[@leon3295]

fcking know-it-all BSJ.

[@myrr4543]

Who gives a crap about BSJ. He's like the great grandson of the salt king PPD

[@ralphjumaya5448]

i thought its aui

[@SaltedBanana]

lol BSJ got rekt by Master Chi Long Qua

[@geraldtan8234]

who is bsj

[@ahlantuazon]

Tims is in Miracle's mind, the boy jebaited Miracle to roar at his Nyx in game one without any follow up. Lol 😂

[@hanselninogungob2519]

Now Noobfromua forced to upload a match from TNC 😂 noobfromua Is crying right now 😂

[@garrylitep]

I saw someone said "letting miracle get his invoker is like losing the game without even playing" Bro you good?

[@MadLadAbhi]

Kuro and gang has always struggled against TNC doto. SEA is wild. 😂

[@chooyanghwee3525]

TNC smart by banning all of GH save heroes like oracle and WW. Usually GH save enables Nigma to turn fights around

[@ReverberateAndChime]

Yeah actually that game 2 all banned was supports. Good decision.

[@alainkien]

TNC slays Miracle since 2016 haha

[@fhjal1574]

When miracle slay tnc where were u

[@alainkien]

@@fhjal1574 miralul crying fangays are here oh no no

[@mohamadryanibra5571]

But TNC no TI 😂

[@seabuschan5677]

@@fhjal1574 TNC whoops miracle's ass more times than miracle whooping tnc.

[@kirotkirona9754]

@@seabuschan5677 TNC no TI though? Tier 3 teams like TNC will never get TI. Sad pignoise

[@chrisst.joseph1873]

Nigma threw the series? BULLSHIT. Playing their heroes with 100% win rate (Mars & Invoker) and lose against a first time Magnus carry in this major? ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME!?

[@Lalalalamave]

Damn the amount of hate in this comment section. Why cant u guys just love both teams. They play well

[@partyanimals9026]

yeah gotta respect tnc for slapping at the overhyped ti 7 team :D

[@ap4346]

@@partyanimals9026 not overhyped tho, It's just that TNC played out of their minds and always destroys Miracle's team 😂

[@partyanimals9026]

@@ap4346 ah.. always is a big word though since i know the history . but gotta give the credit to tnc . they also got a draw against vg as well

[@Lalalalamave]

@@partyanimals9026 drue tho. Sea gaming time to shine bebeyh

[@francissibuan]

Nigma so noob

[@taliamartya4259]

When they stomp liquid people silent, when they lose people roar. Win or lose is not important. For the people that think TNC is noob, you should look how amazing their performance at the recent matches. . Im sea player, i support Sea teams 😎

[@caesium563]

Why no one is talking about how Nigma got counter picked in both games ?

[@reggieramos7920]

Tnc knows nigma strength so they ban all sustainable hero.

[@Sayurawesome11]

Game 1 last pick is miracle

[@kingseiryu929]

Yeah man how dare the enemy ban my healing strat heroes. It should be illegal. Nice logic

[@francissibuan]

Nigma so noob

[@fighter6960]

When you try to Chat wheel talk with sea team.

[@ceres2926]

All these people saying "Nigma threw". Really? Can you not just commend TNC for outplaying them during their clashes? Geez. How much money did you guys lost.

[@nnk9305]

There’s no TNC Fans watching on this time it’s literally 4:50 AM in SEA time So basically, people who says “Throw” are just Nigma Fans The word “Throw” are just Nigma Fans’s excuse

[@craigpetalcorin3202]

@@nnk9305 truee that brother HAHAHAHAHA

[@markneilgequillo8527]

@tenq nice pfp takodachi... hahaha

[@ceres2926]

@@markneilgequillo8527 Thanks my fellow teamate.

[@sheers1212]

@@nnk9305 dude, im from sea watching the previous games

[@jsanch589]

There's no throwing here since Nigma also wants to be on top of the standings and get as many points for TI. What happened here is that Nigma's gameplay is just like SEA Dota and it compliments TNC since they are used to playing against aggressive teams also they do scrims with Nigma so they know or they have tge idea what they are up to. Another thing is all there bans are all GH picks therefore they knew that GH is the one who impacts the team rather than Miracle or ILTW.

[@nicolasoliveira4903]

Miracle is shit, iltw is ok. GH is god.

[@seabuschan5677]

Already predicted this before the Beastcoast game. Tnc gonna have 4-0 today. I've been watching TNC since forever and they always have a 1st game syndrome every tournament. They always lose at the 1st day of a tournament then bounce back the following days

[@markmoore523]

I don't remember which TI it was, where they eliminated old team liquid 😂 I think TNC is Nigma(old team liquid) kryptonite 😂

[@pdc7227]

Eg just too good. Gabbi scared and respexts iceiceice for a reason. And abed always win against armel since fnatic days.

[@mr.G1F]

And get eliminate on Playoffs nothings new

[@bryanjeremypameron6189]

Yep gets rekt at playoffs lmao

[@seabuschan5677]

@@mr.G1F still better than your favorite team xd

[@rubhakumaranramachandran9829]

Wow.. in game 2, all TNC did was ban all support heroes. They understand very clearly that supports are winning the game

[@atfdoto]

and Nigma Banned all carry heroes of TNC :D

[@YangYang-ct2gx]

Only miracle fangays will think miracle is the MVP, obviously GH is always the one who carried them

[@azfarzamry3071]

damn tnc also in TI form. well played

[@rockfox5]

TnC becomes tier 1 kryptonite once more.

[@kphiarbonmukhim9597]

14:23 is gabbi ok?

[@vojacked305]

Could someone please explain to me what happened how TNC managed to win two games against NIGMA? In paper, NIGMA should've won those 2 games because of their hero composition with those easy kills and pick offs. Or did Armel just simply carried his team very hard? P. S. : I haven't played dota2 for a really long time.

[@timothydeperalta8370]

Game 2 draft wise tnc has it. Good hg defense. One man rp in key heroes can win them the game.

[@pewpew1707]

Tnc have more impactful heroes in the late game compared to the heroes picker by NIGMA, ex PUCK vs beastmaster , Invoker vs leshrac. Itemization was also a factor specially in the second game

[@phconsideredplayercnr3797]

I dont think game 2 nigma has a nice line up. They can do combo 1 hero but if they item euls or bkb. it wont happen again. there heroes are for early game.

[@SladeBuffet]

They underestimated tnc

[@muhamadhafizi9516]

TNC = Miracle- killer since 2016

[@onnodanaoma1631]

So where is 100% win rate from invoker and mars ... Lol... Any team.. literally any teams will lost and win... Dont praise some team too much and dont mock some team too hard... Fangay...

[@overcomingsins6334]

Yeah TNC did their home work

[@alialiaism]

tnc: destroying miracle since 2016

[@lovellagrosas1823]

True

[@zakrijohn2055]

Nigma underestimated TNC and it costed them dearly. TNC Pinoy pride!!!

[@jhelobihag4042]

What u mean underestimated? they played their usual game againts Tnc? Tnc is just well prepared tho!

[@tungsten6139]

@@jhelobihag4042 It looks like what happened in the drafting phase

[@jhelobihag4042]

@@tungsten6139 so basically, u trying to say that Nigma gave Tnc their comfort picks? That makes sense

[@madwolf2202]

Stfu toxic pignoy fanboy Nigma is far better than sea shiteaters

[@Paulelplays]

It's not a underestimated game, Nigma banned Nyx Puck Troll PA TA Void on Game 2

[@HeatherKayagi]

Nigma so afraid of Armel lmao, 3v1 midlane, constant focus on his Lesh

[@whysoserious266]

Only ban gh kuroky heroes = win lol

[@jaygarcia9354]

Panel will talk about Nigma not being 100% rather than how TNC played really well lol so biased.

[@xbr123]

But TNC didn't play well really. If you watch it, they just got over Nigma because of terrible Nigma mistakes. Nigma played sloppy bad tier 5 dota.

[@craigpetalcorin3202]

@@xbr123 excuse me? How much bet did u lose?

[@sleeper5950]

Iyak kana miraclul fangay tang ina mo

[@janqwer2423]

I was totally shocked when the underdog is TNC , when it comes to LAN, TNC is super scary.. and btw Nigma is only strong in other eu teams that's all. And that's why TNC is in groupstage not in wildcard

[@dr.josemanalo2141]

EU is overrated to me, look at liquid, ill take chinese teams over eu teams except ofcourse og(2 time champ lineup)

[@akitski021]

No TNC is not underdog anymore they have major title

[@emiliamitsuya6644]

TNC is in groupstage because all the other teams in SEA except T1 and TNC are trash. Soon look at TI where TNC will not even be top 10 just like every other TI.

[@masterpiece5554]

@@emiliamitsuya6644 I'm pretty sure tnc was top 8 last time

[@anomals9692]

@@masterpiece5554 tnc peak was 2016 is top 8 and never get top 8 again until now

[@Ame-pt4el]

Fan of both didnt really care who wins, I was hoping 1-1 or 2-0 in favor of Nigma cause they are on streak with their Invoker and Mars core duo altho they lost I feel like everyone here just salty of TNC winning the comment section feels like they cant accept defeat I watch the series before this and they stomped BeastCoast 2-0 and having the same kind of day of both carries (Iltw & Gabbi) getting Rampage before the series, well as I said idc who won cause im a fan of both but GG's to the both of them

[@fitt4393]

Indeed

[@louuu3201]

Nigma im sorry but TNC are from SEA region , every player in sea can turn any hero into carry , even 3k players in sea do this 😆😆

[@deepaknarayan3713]

That's our trademark. I'm currently stomping pubs with ogre mid.

[@StealthBlack210]

"TNC is a weaker team" - BSJ

[@OhNoItsJohnny]

They only give tnc 10 % chance of winning on both games thats why tnc returned the favor by 2-0 nigma.

[@ひろゆき二十一]

The game was very satisfying in destroying people's arrogant asses

[@fusilism]

Bsj really did say that? Wtf

[@antonette1996]

I was disappointed with BSJ

[@mystologan6453]

Not suprise dude is always with shitty prediction and bias

[@jackthebeetle7981]

Miracle is back to mid 100% win/Miracle invo 100% win - Miracle GAYfan

[@almanacjr9470]

LAKAD MATATAG.....NORMALIN NORMALIN

[@laksanapranata7835]

Ursa get kited so hard without io 😂

[@keram9094]

"NIGMA TI FORM" - some random miracle fanboi

[@fusilism]

10k eu = 2k sea

[@communistarezombies377]

TNC representing whole sea

[@explorefoodsdoodle7031]

you forgot t1 dog

[@diggedboy2333]

No it will be T1

[@xi3382]

T1 Waiting for TNC in playoff this major will be taken by SEA. SEA DOTO BEST DOTO

[@fernandoferari2895]

You forgot boomid, best doto from indo

[@huehuehue1390]

@@fernandoferari2895 i didn't see boom on this tournament

[@kazosrandom2593]

ILTW - I LET TNC WINS

[@JohnDoe-jb6xq]

I let them win

[@user-kp4wl6pg8g]

He let TNC wins then go home.

[@g.9814]

@@user-kp4wl6pg8g chingchong

[@araara2023]

I Love TWeng

[@vandarkholme7759]

@@g.9814 lol pignoy coping

[@seve7442]

"We can turn supports into carries" -tnc

[@blacklocked1737]

its our classic sea strategy ..you wont understand

[@ucdunginh1171]

@@blacklocked1737 We have 5 caries playing together.

[@marvinmahinay7012]

I don't know how nigma was over confident as some nigma fangays said. I believe nigma dont underestimate TNC the team that always beat them ever since their liquid days, TNC is just the better team. "Tims he's insides miracle's mind" , "This guy is good, this guy is very good"

[@nashazzi8399]

Lol relax TNC fangays.

[@diondolor7600]

@@nashazzi8399 nigma fan? Hahahahahahahahahahahhahahhaahhaha

[@diondolor7600]

@@nashazzi8399 nigma fan? Hahahahahahahahahahahhahahhaahhaha

[@PirateEnigmator]

Im not either of their fans. Its seem uncommon wit Miracle using Beastmaster(lack of escape skill) while major.

[@kingseiryu929]

@@PirateEnigmator then the invo game?

[@sakazukiakainu9623]

Good game to both team Nigma play good but TNC play better. If you wanna support your team support them yet dont bash the other team. Sad truth those bashers are crusaders compare to this immortal players

[@nenram.5786]

It's just that tnc really improved. Specially Gabbi as carry. They only lost 2-0 to EG because of Abed being SEA king and RTZ power of friendship sunder

[@James-fv4jx]

Actually no the 2nd game couldve been 1-1 if not for RTZ sunder save and immediate Satanic which changed the tide of the game.

[@James-fv4jx]

But Bok has to give Armel better heroes to work with dudes having a hard time with some of these picks

[@nenram.5786]

Nah.. EG really strong at laning phase even casters say they are the best laning team in the world rn. Game 1 vs TNC and game 1 vs VG was typical EG game. They were methodical and was almost perfect in execution. The casters was even bored of how clean EG played those games.

[@nenram.5786]

Armel got shot down hard early during game 2 vs nigma but he bounced back

[@James-fv4jx]

@@nenram.5786 Gabbi got him back on his feet this game and Bok was creating space with the right clicks, I still think Armel needs to be given better heroes to work with. RTZ i do admit is still among the top 5 carries if not top 3 and dude is always in his game sometimes his team just slips and causes him to make forced plays but regardless EG stabilized with ice3 as their 3.

[@FRANCESCO-gd9oe]

I can feel the sadness of Caster and panel. 🥺😢 On rooting on Nigma😣

[@kunkka5491]

Nigma throw the game.

[@Boss-syntax]

@@kunkka5491 miracle with his signature hero MC 100% WINRATE OF HIS MARS

[@noobbuddycantdragmedown2607]

the most sad one is probably kyle🤣🤣🤣..although he is from america...but i think his favourite team is nigma....but the series still continue...currently eg,nigma,tnc and vg is tie

[@WinterSnowism]

Ofc they're rooting for the team that speaks their language. They also roots for every team that goes against Chinese teams.

[@LynerxAurica]

@@WinterSnowism sea speaks theirs too wtf you on

[@nnk9305]

In Game 2 Nigma had clean Draft, MC’s 100%-Mars partnered by Miracle’s Signature, and both Supports are on their respective Roles, like Pos4=Roam, & Pos5=Rear-Initiator ILTW’s Ursa has a good start too, getting the Firstblood, leading the Laning-Stage Nigma held Mid Tower against Leshrac for 30mins Nigma got a 5k Gold on Mid-Game Nigma are playing way too Safe, not risking anything isn’t too good, sometimes you have to take a risk and be aggressive I guess Nigma is afraid that Miracle is gonna make a mistake and it’ll make him look bad, that’s why they’re too Safe

[@txtmodcarlo]

MC Mars is already beaten on game 1 so that's not 100%. Nigma is not playing smart and overly agressive.

[@WoloW1zard-]

they had us till the last line not gonna lie xD

[@cappymons8191]

Casters so goddamn unmotivated when nigma is losing freaking bias

[@g.9814]

iyacc sila e

[@pritishajoshi118]

Best way to stamp Nigma......Just ban all KuroKy picks

[@mortred3008]

Haha

[@switch8428]

Nigma first game: Got rosh twice = still lose Nigma second game: shut down Armel with 7 deaths = still lose So basically they got outplayed so bad

[@xbr123]

No. They just got overconfident. iLTW went w33-style, dying out of position, being aggressive where it is not needed, etc. They just underestimated TNC clearly in that game with their decisions.

[@kunkka5491]

Its clearly a throw.

[@EzClap95]

@@kunkka5491 If IG didnt throw the tiebreaker right away Nigma wouldnt even be in group you clown

[@sebastianbalcazar740]

@@xbr123 still blaming w33? lol

[@craigpetalcorin3202]

@@xbr123 how much bet u lost? 😂 its not a throw, and not about iltw throwing either it's what u call "outplayed"

[@goback3spaces603]

tnc are nigma's krepto. also, iltw needs some adjustment in his items decision. i think it comes in handy they lost, coz being too cocky is not good. but looking on the games they still have to play, it would have been gr8 to have a draw here. but, in hindsight, nigma's real power comes with a pinch of stress so, overall they still have to do some awesome job to go in the UB. Good job Team spirit anyways, they did an amazing job today

[@ineptadept3251]

iLTW being too cocky in 2 games cost them the series.

[@craigpetalcorin3202]

I dont get why u blame iltw for the L. I say they just got outplayed

[@nnk9305]

@@craigpetalcorin3202 He’s Miracle Fanboy, if they’re gonna blame anyone but Miracle

[@ineptadept3251]

@@craigpetalcorin3202true, but i didnt specifically blame iLTW on my previous comment. But he did contribute from the lose, he was overextending and TNC grabbed that opportunity to punished Nigma.

[@ineptadept3251]

@@nnk9305 nah, im a fan of both teams and i dont take sides. I just want good dota thats all.

[@James-fv4jx]

@@ineptadept3251 ILTW is a good player, but the only downside of him is when he gets strong he gets greedy and sometimes end up giving up their leads

[@migoy13]

Miracle having PTSD again against TNC. KEKW

[@salimkun4597]

Hahaha

[@vincentjadecarcedo8174]

Yawa hahaha

[@roronoazoro7655]

Nimal hahahahaha

[@kentsky3680]

BurNing and IG.Ferrari had said: Dude, this iLTW is really disgrace as a carry because he going to build scepter instead of eyes of skadi or satanic. He is the only core carry in his team and made wrong item build, he had no damage and being a support Faceless Void. How can possible Team Nigma lose to this kind of team....from ez win to lose lol .... (both of them were talked through on huya TV, huya TV is a live streaming platform)

[@10klikeanonimbalikwxc14]

Againts what team?

[@noobbuddycantdragmedown2607]

ya that is soo questionable.....but they team also not saying anything when he buy scepter...maybe the all agree for him to build scepter

[@vitoa1198]

Tnc are strong team bruh

[@johnpaulramin2127]

Lol haha do you think tnc is a weak team? They even wreck top tier teams

[@johnpaulramin2127]

Tnt wreck top tier teams bro dont underestimate them

[@shadymathers2715]

Why would miracle use defeaning blast on armel instead of gabbi that last fight? Kinda waste of kiting capabilities of invoker late game for me

[@pororoymain8795]

Wow a pro??

[@shadymathers2715]

@@pororoymain8795 even a pro can make mistakes and i was just pointing that out. Did i cuss miracle at any point in my original comment?

[@cagedgandalf3472]

From what I've seen and through his perspective and with little time left. He saw three teammates (Mars, Ursa, and Willow) vs two enemies (Magnus and Viper). He tried to zone out the remaining three enemies by literally pushing away Armel as he was coming towards them (I think his tornado and ice wall were in cooldown not sure about cold snap) to buy his teammates some time to kill magnus and viper. There might also be a chance that they would attack a lonely Invoker since there were three of them.

[@tzielsky]

Both game nigma doesn't have answer for Viper, and Timm on second game as pangolier really do awesome job

[@xavierramirez6183]

Viper skadi and dragon lance is actually pretty good vs Nigma's melee cores.

[@dogblong6811]

Synd casting without tobi :(

[@jerechotan3784]

i love TNCs execution in game2, what I like them is they play consistent, notice how nigma keep ganking armel, even if he die it’s okay as long as he clear creepwaves fast and even if he died he’s still up there in gold lead, also i think he just sacrifice himself all the time to make space for magnus and viper to farm which kinda snowball upto midgame, and notice in midgame how he bait them which make way for TNC to win some teamfyts and from lategame change to enchantress being the bait to make the setup, which makes their draft complete, Nigma just feel disconnected during teamfyts and dont know who to focus

[@jcm5495]

SML

[@aljoneldimaguila3234]

EU: we have the best Teams and players Sea: 😁

[@picklefarmer9210]

Dude it's just one win and u guys r bragging like u win the finals 😑 It was a good win but path is tough ahead

[@kunkka5491]

SEA: 🤡

[@blackdragon5085]

TNC miracle nightmares

[@mr.xbeaszttt_YT]

Ang lakas nyo TNC manalo sana kayo para maitaas bandera ng Pilipinas

[@kelompokberflower1410]

I never see Magnus as good Gabbi in this major

[@ichromdzalal9070]

EU team only good against other EU team. Put them against other region then they will fall a part.

[@jasonlee7928]

Yes thats why 5/8 tis are from eu/na

[@reymartmonsanto9306]

Crazy comment so far, new fan on dota pro scene😆😆 Check TI Champions😆😆😆

[@jasonlee7928]

@@reymartmonsanto9306 ignore him dude. He just wants attention

[@ikramroslan2773]

is this based on one game or dota ti history? 😂.. chill, tnc is better in this game

[@ichromdzalal9070]

This year gonna be different.

[@phillip6215]

9:42 and here folks we see a classic "call an ambulance but not for me"