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[@harabecswurveweathers]

Man, I love that little anecdote at the start, Noob. But it made me wanna cry, because my dad passed in 2008 when I was 18, and he loved race cars, always watching NASCAR & F1 every weekend growing up, and I would've loved to share with him my burgeoning love of Sim Racing, and I know he would've loved to Sin race at even my broke, used wheel level. I'm so happy for you to have got that experience with your Dad though, just a bit jealous. ❤️

[@NOOBIFIER1337]

I am sad for your early loss. It unfortunate

[@RobertRindik]

My condolences, friend. An early loss like that is unfortunate. Godspeed.

[@bruceyoung565]

I am sorry you lost your dad so young. He would be proud of his son. You will make a great dad one dad.

[@asiftalpur3758]

not just the sim set up, just having that time with your dad like that is a dream come true and a dream many of us look forward to

[@sauriak8286]

30k ? Is this a SC crash simulator ?

[@erissroc]

You win

[@DOSHIELD]

Congratulations Noobifier. This is an epic and excellent video. Best product review I’ve seen from you yet. I’ll definitely be sharing this around.

[@NOOBIFIER1337]

Appreciated

[@LordTimelord]

The only way the truly similate a 30K in Star Citizen is by spending $30,000. The Simulation is REAL! LOL

[@fatality7674]

I follow you for a long time, and your basement always mesmerized me with so many cool toys... I have quiet a nice configuration myself after years of upgrades, but you really achieved any enthousiast simer's dream there. Also, you must have a really great wife that let you spend so much into it. Mine is litterally having anxiety crysis everytime I'm in front of the screen, specially when I wear my G2 . So even if I had the will to build such a setup, I'd have to sacrifice my familly over it, which is a no go... I'm jealous and admirative at the same time ! Living the dream and getting paid for it is quiet an achievement. Keep making us dream ! o7

[@thomgizziz]

This sounds like a sales pitch. He contradicts every other motion sim person that I have ever heard.

[@brophwyd]

finally someone who understands a busted box and safe product means the box did its job

[@Tainted-Soul]

I would love it but I would be single in about 5 minuets if was to even think about spending that sort of cash. good on you for doing what you love and Im happy for you to get what you have been striving for. if I win some money, I'll give you a call :)

[@Marcusstratus]

Man I would have loved to do this with my Dad. That's awesome Noob, so cool

[@Anachroschism]

Yes, we do indeed have one of those Logitech keyboards, however, that's about the only component of this sim that I can afford.

[@danielekirylo]

Now I am jealous 😁 nice sim and review.

[@QBziZ]

Very nice description of your setup. VR would of course add to the immersion. For anyone thinking of going the motion system route, in VR, yaw, surge and sway are not as important as fundamental forces, as they can be simulated with pitch and roll movement. Not 100% perfect of course, since you could start to feel the angles at large forces, but still, they will be quite convincing. So pitch, roll and heave are the tree most important ones, especially for flight simulation, where heave is very important.

[@NischGTM]

WAY overpriced for what you get. You can get SO MUCH more for 30k.

[@NOOBIFIER1337]

Not like this though.

[@NischGTM]

@@NOOBIFIER1337 Incorrect. A far superior 6DOF can be had for a fraction of the price with much greater range and about 20k left over to spend on other things. This is just an ad. I get it.

[@seattime4075]

Nice, I totally agree with mounting the screens off the motion rig, as not only does it stop any failure of the screens, as they are not designed for these types of vibrations, but the horizon also stays were it should in the real world, as your neck and eyes will filter out most of the cars vertical movements. Can also recommend enclosing the area around the screens with blackout panels, which really improves immersion. Also recommend trying a active belt system.

[@PlatinumFox]

you building it literally looked like those scenes from Andor lol

[@jayphi4095]

Best 6DOF motion simulator is by far the MotionXP 6DOF PRIME for half the price of the QUBIC but with much more motion ranges, silence and capabilities…..I finally bought one after evaluating at least 10 brands and companies including Motion System and QUBIC in Poland, Edge 6D in Netherland etc…..Only draw back, the PRIME is a more or less DIY platform, kind of IKEA for gamers….with huge tutorials elements and help from the installed park of users.

[@snaggletoof1927]

This is a phenomenal set up, N00b. Thank you so much for sharing this with us. If I ever win the Lottery, this will be my second purchase.

[@DOSHIELD]

On another note, even though it is considered expensive, it’s a bargain for what it would cost to actually experience what it simulates, and provides a safer option to operating the real life equivalent.

[@NOOBIFIER1337]

Correct.. even a crappy race car is triple the cost including some track time.

[@AdityaWaghmare]

Awesome setup and that 6DOF is a dream for all sim fans 🤩 If I ever win the lottery, I will surely invite you over to set this up 😄

[@tvliquidGG]

What an awesome review. This thing is the REAL DEAL! Now to decide on which kidney I should sell.....................

[@merlingreen9253]

the race with your dad sounded awesome!!! that rig is effin jaw-dropping. Appreciate your detailed no bs perspectives and this is a new life goal, wow!!!

[@ncktbs]

treat it like a small hot tub spa reinforced floor dedicated electric circuit and enough space

[@OniMetsuki]

A really nice piece of kit, if a little pricey. One day perhaps... Glad you are enjoying it :)

[@homermorisson9135]

Oh how I wish I could just come over to experience the 6DOF beast at least once...

[@kevincaruthers5412]

"It's too expensive!" . It's still a lot cheaper than a plane. :)

[@thomgizziz]

What BS is this? Every racing motion sim player says that motion kills their times and many of them have good 6dof systems. This smacks of you being paid off or feeling in debt because of what you got or wanting to keep a relationship going. This is so off of what every other motion sim person says that you are almost 100% selling a pitch. You should feel ashamed of yourself.

[@AlwaysAstral]

What an awe inspiring setup. The sim rig itself I knew would be expensive but I didn't even consider that you had 3x A80Js as well and that audio setup! I think its safe to say Noob has the best gaming setup in existence.

[@NOOBIFIER1337]

I appreciate the vote of confidence.. Please let others know.

[@mattp1337]

Right after I win the lottery, I'll be giving you a call to come help.

[@br1ella129]

I wonder how it compares to the 6dof PT-Actuators that Barry from SRG reviewed a few years ago? PTs are much more affordable at almost half the price, while they have about the same efficiency and load capacity(250kg), plus PT require less space.

[@NOOBIFIER1337]

I believe it will come down to Speed, Force and Noise.

[@kaywhy1337]

Very comprehensive. can't wait to test more driving and possible VR 😁

[@Picks_Productions]

Soooo jealous

[@thomgizziz]

2x2x2 meters? Then you are over 8ft tall? you cant even get the box measurements correct... smh

[@wonchoice]

Are those hydraulics cylinders or power screw or pneumatic actuators ?

[@gustavolrcoelho]

Did you try playing SC on it? Also, now you only need 3 more for each corner of the room and you are set. 👌

[@NOOBIFIER1337]

There is actually a second one on order, to replace the smaller one. It will not play SC because the game company would need to do some work to provide a data stream.

[@MrStrosty]

Nice setup. What’s the travel of the actuators?

[@NOOBIFIER1337]

11cm

[@TheInsaneupsdriver]

once bolted down, OVER CLOCK IT!!!

[@ianwilson4286]

Really cool system!

[@katherineowen4570]

Clark Thomas Lee Donald Davis Mark

[@mrdot1126]

not that i cold afford a car worth of "gadget" like this, but i have to ask... since you only shown a car game, and flight-simulator, how well does this works with SC?

[@Sp4ceG04t]

This looks amazing I have two big questions I'm 6'5" would this or another setup be comfortable for someone of my size? And secondly what are the weight limits? I'm not a cow but I am bigger than average.

[@NOOBIFIER1337]

The person in the video is 6’4 and he has no difficulty. I might suggest not getting that chair they offer and getting something wide

[@killclock940]

Enjoyed the video.

[@abhradasgupta4501]

this is so awesome

[@ultimaevo77]

Hey Noobifier, what would you go with purely for iracing between this and QS220 on top of a CH2 platform?

[@NOOBIFIER1337]

I would probably still go with QSS25 I have become addicted to mine.

[@williamlewis1805]

I love that you get to enjoy this with friends and especially your father. I hope the same one day.

[@theprussianboi2573]

when the motion system costs more than your bank account

[@AsiAzzy]

Nice. I got the version with 3 monitors that move.

[@ruipaulonascimento2711]

Wow ❤❤❤❤❤

[@joesgotmore]

Well if I win the lottery I'll be picking one up ASAP. :)

[@NOOBIFIER1337]

Contact me when you do, I am here to help

[@CanadianTexaninLiguria]

@ 1:56 - you say you have no affiliation, yet you are the distributor? Some things don't add up....I'd say that its a huge affiliation.

[@NOOBIFIER1337]

The video was made. They offered to be a distributor after.

[@Reds_Resort]

This looks insane dude. The motion feedback speeding you up is not what I'd have thought and is such a nice little benefit. Oh and btw your IAE coverage was absolutely top notch, thanks for that and all the hard work. o7

[@coppertreefilms]

Looks amazing. One day...one day...

[@marcourban899]

Wow! Can you make a video of a DCS F/A-18 cat and Trap?

[@NOOBIFIER1337]

I can, yes

[@AcheliusDecimus]

I could only invest in this if I lived in a first world country. Delivery would be brutal and if it broke impossible to fix. Unless I did it myself. It's a great system and hopefully if I ever migrate to the US I will own one.

[@TJRSIM]

Amazing! Tha is for sharing. Definitely next level

[@fjmontilla2009]

Thanks for such a detailed video. I wish I had found it earlier, but it works anyway. See, We just acquired two QS S25's for the university I work for in Puerto Rico. I'd love to stay in touch, were getting ready for a May - July Delivery and your video has been super helpful. Keep em coming!!

[@b3owu1f]

Just a question.. this rig looks insanely beefy.. will it last years and years of use? Or are there expensive parts that are going to wear out and break and cost lots to replace/fix? The actuators look damn heavy duty.. so I am hoping given the high cost and the heavy duty.. well everything, this thing should last a decade or longer with proper care. I assume some level of adding oil from time to time may be needed? The other question is.. does the software/drivers that it comes with work in a lot of games? Me in particular DCS, racing sims (a few of them) and Star Citizen. How do they know how to move.. is it game data fed to the drivers to move it.. thus games have to support it?

[@NOOBIFIER1337]

The system is overbuilt. Actuators can be replaced for 1k if they do fail due to extreme use. The software supports a list of 100 game titles including MSFS and DCS. Star Citizen is years away from supporting motion and I am a CAN/USA distributor for this piece of equipment. I would be happy to speak in discord with you about it.

[@b3owu1f]

@@NOOBIFIER1337 Oh man.. SC is the primary reason for me.. getting Virpil controllers and have Beyond VR coming.. it's a long ways out for me to afford a system like this, but very interested in 6DOF systems in general. I am sure by the time I can come up with 30K for a motion system.. new stuff will be out, but it is insane what this thing does. I would hope that even with extreme use the level of material would last years before any sort of failure.

[@rickblack1444]

Do I need to purchase a computer when buying this rig?

[@NOOBIFIER1337]

You should have something to play games on, yes. It can be included in the invoice at time of purchase.

[@bronxborn70]

If I had the money and place, I would send this guy the 30K to have him set up mine JUST LIKE HIS. 🤘🏾

[@NOOBIFIER1337]

I am ready to help when you are ready

[@mr.rajikon3911]

What does one do for a living to afford such an amazing play room?😯

[@motionbasti]

Schöner Seat gefällt mir. Auch nett, dass an Versteifungen gedacht wurde. Da hat sich Jemand gedanken gemacht. An die Deutschen Zuschauer: schaut bei mir vorbei, wenn Ihr so etwas selber bauen möchtet.

[@matthewives3933]

This is really cool. I definitely want one. Not this year. But i'll take a look at getting the money together for something like this next year sometime.

[@Simcadepro]

okay so it a sales vid, marketing what his team can offer.

[@NOOBIFIER1337]

My team? Not specifically.. go search for “ Noobifier wonderland “ if you want to see that. This is a review.

[@KasparasPra]

Seriously @TheNoobifier1337, u should better buy a Porsche for your middle age crisis :D :D :D Yeah... that's a truly a WOW thing u have here !!! My family dont understand my gaming on laptop, I could not even dream to have something like this :) U host guest as I understand? :D can I reserve a spot plz?

[@NOOBIFIER1337]

Who said I didn’t already have one… if you need to get one of these.. let me know

[@CanConMil]

Weeoo!

[@DonaldMalmstrom]

Noob thank you for doing all the leg work for us!! Amazing setup! Now to start saving the pennies and let Santa know what I want for next Christmas!! 😁

[@avatar6699]

Do you have or intend to have for us a Star Citizen review on the motion platform?

[@Braselton21]

It does the same thing all the 70-100k rigs do 0_o

[@NOOBIFIER1337]

80cm/s

[@MatthiasNyberg]

Do real-life racing drivers use 6dof sims like these in their online racing rigs? It seems to me that they prefer 3dof ones, but very high quality, quick and precise ones?

[@NOOBIFIER1337]

Search “Noobifier CH2”

[@MatthiasNyberg]

@@NOOBIFIER1337 For sim racing, would you say that the QS-S25 feels more realistic than the QS-220 + QS-CH2 combo?

[@NOOBIFIER1337]

@@MatthiasNyberg the QS S25 is generally more smooth and natural. CH2 is very good at letting you know exactly when the car will slip.

[@chrish4483]

Wowzers! thats a pretty cray simrig. Glad to see you flourishing to this extent. thanks for the fantastic reviews

[@BMWHP2]

lol, Not on my watch. Thats what I told my son to on the shooting range.

[@JonathanAllain]

So happy you had a beautiful moment like that. My dad went home to be with the Lord 7 years ago this month .

[@mcamp20]

What size of 3 monitors you using and brand and model number? Thanks

[@NOOBIFIER1337]

docs.google.com/document/d/1JqxA_IwzHFdjG6EmSvh9i9OUlHuGh1y4YhdVKiswkxk

[@barryhubert8433]

thank you for the chance to see this it was a amazing experience. " we are fixing your closet "

[@NOOBIFIER1337]

Any time!

[@barryhubert8433]

@@NOOBIFIER1337 as soon as i win the lottery you are the second call i make right after booking a dream vacation for my wife

[@thomashall7035]

You mention 3m x 3m space required- I have a corner about 2.4 x 2.4. Any reason it wouldn’t fit? I’d rather not come further out from the wall as it would spoil the table tennis play area in my shed!

[@NOOBIFIER1337]

It would be impossible to access one side, I am sure you could make it fit. If you are wanting help in getting your, my company is here for you. www.noobifier.com/qubic

[@thomashall7035]

@@NOOBIFIER1337 I’m UK based so might be tough! Thanks though! There would be plenty of room to get in- I just don’t want it taking up floor space. Would you need to access the far side much?

[@NOOBIFIER1337]

@@thomashall7035 The item Shipps from Poland, so it wouldn't be that hard. Its nice to be able to work on the unit without being against a wall.

[@thomashall7035]

@@NOOBIFIER1337 Thanks again for your reply. I'm also interested in how quickly you can change the peripherals between driving, fixed wing, rotary wing etc. On my current peg-leg SFX-100 type platform, it is a pain- and it means I do flying for several months, then once switched over to driving- stay on that for a while. In a ideal world- it's a quick job to switch things over...

[@NOOBIFIER1337]

@@thomashall7035 the switch on monstertech is tool-less for the majority. The left and right, middle are all on hand nuts. Virpil gimbals have removable wires. It’s basically plug n. Play for this gear. The wheel pushes out of the way on a rail. Pedals are on a quick change. It’s literally about 120 seconds.

[@jonberg469]

I also have a pretty high end motion system not quite at this level… but my only beef with this is not utilizing 8020 profile for adjustments on the cockpit. There are a lot of things you can add to this like seat belt tighteners and g force seats. Also shifters come on a huge range of options so profile gives you that flexibility. Other then that, this thing is awesome!

[@NOOBIFIER1337]

The newest iteration has 4040 to hold the wheel.

[@michalkosniewski4826]

This. This is what i want.

[@NOOBIFIER1337]

Send me an email I will help

[@mrpuggie2k7]

Where are you guys located in the us?

[@NOOBIFIER1337]

@@mrpuggie2k7 Ottawa Ontario

[@johnmann7o2]

Awesome setup but motion sims are best in VR

[@NOOBIFIER1337]

They are and I do have VR

[@jaygibbs9494]

what in the hell is going on with those metal outlets & conduits?!? is that a thing in the states????

[@NOOBIFIER1337]

I am in Canada, it is a brick wall.

[@jaygibbs9494]

@@NOOBIFIER1337 The brick wall is irrelevant ...?! haha metal conduit for electrical is crazy to me as an Australian, I hope everything is earthed correctly 😅😂

[@michaelderflinger5002]

Great setup. What i always wonder about: how many Sim Studios have the time to include an API to hand over all the data a 6 DOF system needs. Even ForceFeedback is a small niche, so the number of consumer with such a rig has to be tiny. Any plans on using it with VR?

[@NOOBIFIER1337]

All games I tested operate with 6DOF, their software is no joke. (QuBIC)

[@Astrofotografie]

Now replace fanatec for Simucube and you will feel much better, I was so glad I ditched my DD2 with a Simucube 2 pro.

[@NOOBIFIER1337]

The PayPal link is in the description sir.

[@ph11p3540]

That thing not only looks like it weight well over 350 lbs but I bet you want it operating firmly off of a concrete slab floor and not a wooden joist floor system.

[@NOOBIFIER1337]

Its actually 1400 Lbs

[@muddtrukka]

I'm imagining what the dipper will feel like on the Mt Panorama track. Or the corkscrew on Laguna Seca.

[@NOOBIFIER1337]

I can do a video on the drops.

[@mikegilkey]

Awesome setup and thank you for taking the time to share and create the video

[@doomslayerforever2858]

maybe next bull run ill earn enough for this

[@patrickvandiejie6128]

Awsome vid, but deos it work on star citizen? Happy holidays ;)

[@NOOBIFIER1337]

It can take the direct input from the joystick, so technically yes, but it’s not completed.

[@jameswatson8775]

potentially a dumb question but would this work in games like star citizen or elite dangerous?

[@NOOBIFIER1337]

Only if they put the effort in making the game compatible. It’s the developers who need to do this.

[@seattime4075]

My sim has a 'Spike filter' built in to stop it from hurting me during crashes etc - does the Qubic system come with something similar?

[@NOOBIFIER1337]

Of course. It will give you 100% if you like, until the system detects an action that might hurt you or it.

[@seattime4075]

@@NOOBIFIER1337 Nice, I figured so for the price. It has also saved me more then once :-). I actually moved away from a Stewart Platform a few years ago ( link if interested kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z5fLlmykqa2WldE ) for a faster more powerful 3 DOF (up to 500mm Sec - 1.8KW servo motors) were roll, pitch and short heave/surge/sway are managed by the 3DOF and long sway, surge and heave are manage by G systems. If interested I have attached a link to a full G system seat that I built to test out ideas ( kzbin.info/www/bejne/i6PQhod4lLCGg5o ). All the best, your setup with the two systems looks great!

[@AlniyatSco]

Yay 1st?

[@carlosdejesus1149]

Question can it be used with star citizen?

[@NOOBIFIER1337]

No

[@mareklimanowski687]

Try VR

[@NOOBIFIER1337]

If you look on the wall there are 2 sets of VR base stations. Each of the three systems has VR.

[@webweaver3015]

Curious as to why you are using 3 screens instead of VR (Varjo Aero)?

[@NOOBIFIER1337]

I run VR too. On both systems. It looked stupid for the B Roll

[@markkovalcson7243]

@@NOOBIFIER1337 How well does the motion compensation work in VR? Is it actually long term usable or did you find that you wanted to look at triple screens instead.

[@NOOBIFIER1337]

@@markkovalcson7243 works fine. Loos bad in a video so I didn’t show it

[@markkovalcson7243]

@@NOOBIFIER1337 Is it still calculated compensation where you input the offset to where your head is from some reference point? How long did it take to dial the compensation in?

[@NOOBIFIER1337]

@@markkovalcson7243 it’s included in their software. It compensates automatically based on a 10 second calibration

[@kidsrcworld2985]

quick question... how can you afford 35k$ in this?

[@NOOBIFIER1337]

Im retired.

[@dan_]

The fact you didn't mention it maybe suggests it's either not something you're interested in, or you don't think it's very good, but I'd be interested to hear how well a motion rig like this plays with VR. While I'm sure I'd make an exception for your setup, I don't think I'd like to go back to looking at regular screens after experiencing simming in VR for the last couple of years.

[@NOOBIFIER1337]

I only play in VR. The screens were just for the video and for when people come over who dislike VR

[@dan_]

@@NOOBIFIER1337 Cool. So I take it they work well together then! I wasn't sure if something about the physical movement would break the VR immersion or not.

[@Chromaz]

Are the cylinders pneumatic, hydraulic or mechanical?

[@NOOBIFIER1337]

Electric. Anything else would require pumps, lines, compressors and be loud or hot.

[@manic_miner]

Absolutely fantastic Noobifier. So happy for you that you get to use this every day, what a wonderful time to be alive and to be able to enjoy this level of hardware as a consumer. Magical! I've ordered a DOF H3 motion rig to use in VR and am so excited to build the rig and hide the cables. Love a clean set-up!

[@NOOBIFIER1337]

Thanks it’s fantastic

[@thomgizziz]

What BS is this? Every racing motion sim player says that motion kills their times and many of them have good 6dof systems. This smacks of him being paid off or feeling in debt because of what you got or wanting to keep a relationship going. This is so off of what every other motion sim person says that he is almost 100% selling a pitch.

[@pirateradio8420]

I assume the driving or flight simulator must support this motion system?

[@NOOBIFIER1337]

Yes, the list is extensive.

[@OnceShy_TwiceBitten]

LOL McIntosh audio for that? Jeez man. lol

[@NOOBIFIER1337]

Why not. It sounds awesome.

[@bullshitdepartment]

@@NOOBIFIER1337 tbh I think any decent surround set would be just as good.

[@NOOBIFIER1337]

@@bullshitdepartment The Mcintosh got your attention. It was the point

[@bullshitdepartment]

@@NOOBIFIER1337 fair enough lol

[@dannycauser]

I was looking into this exact model, great timing on the video! What switch over process do you have for changing from flight controls to car/auto controls, is that a pain or long process? Thanks again for a great video

[@NOOBIFIER1337]

I ended up making mounts for this. The wheel assembly comes off super easy, but attaching it again takes about an hour. I have prototyped an alternative to their system that is 4 hand bolts.

[@NOOBIFIER1337]

Danny, would you like to contact me either on Discord or by Email. I can help you noobifiermedia at gmail dot com

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Absolutely awesome!