Sprinter vs Climber up NorCal's Steepest Climb

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[@bluemystic7501]

The fact that he was on that 36 lb bike and still basically kept up with you, that's insane!

[@lachilly1131]

My full suspension trail bike is even lighter than the eurobike lol

[@loc9588]

@@lachilly1131 not really a flex the eurobike is a pos

[@lachilly1131]

@@loc9588 im not flexing, I think it’s just crazy that a road bike can be heavier than a mid-range trail bike

[@brandonevans2588]

Could have taken the kick stand off at least. LOL

[@kt9493]

16 kg

[@billkallas1762]

Because of the dropped chain, you need a do-over.

[@spicy_mint]

OR he should have just waited for him to fix the chain, the only conclusion from this video is "a dropped chain will slow you down".

[@tewaewae]

and swap bikes

[@ericpmoss]

I think the chain couldn’t take it any more and jumped.

[@Ferrichrome]

@@ericpmoss he tried to switch to the granny and put down too much force. I ride a 3x and this happens all the time if you're not used to it. he was probably used to 2x systems

[@dnomyarg32]

It's been about thirty years since I've done this climb. It was about the only road bike climb I've ever struggled with rear wheel traction on, especially since the surface is often wet, and I had to zig zag the steepest parts. Fun video, thanks for posting.

[@crbondur]

This looks like a GCN segment. I LOVE IT!! :D

[@supersixmikeohimod]

dont disrespect jeff like that

[@zobayer1]

Or Safa Brian, except, uphill.

[@wateim3951]

Except less, what's the term ... (checks google translate) ... "less wankers"

[@pompeymonkey3271]

@@wateim3951 "fewer"

[@jt.8144]

Way better than GCN. Just the location alone is a win. Bay Area Living.💯

[@johnmcgovern5372]

Please don't buy a Eurobike if you're on a budget, you can get so much more second hand for the same money. They shouldn't be allowed to put bike in their name....

[@___kayed]

?

[@c.s.4273]

​​​@@___kayedLook at the weight! It's criminally heavy!

[@___kayed]

@@c.s.4273 are pro bikes really that heavy?

[@___kayed]

@@c.s.4273 calm down man

[@___kayed]

@@c.s.4273 I ain’t think it was that heavy

[@aarongobo]

What a great video - hope to see more of Jackson on your channel! Chemistry is great and he's clearly strong both with his abilities and knowledge. Jackson actually did my bike fit a couple years ago, and inspired me to really elevate my cycling - genuinely a great guy :)

[@YeeFeng]

Jackson is one of the strongest cyclists I’ve personally met…glad to see him here and show what he’s got. A 36lb bike is craazyyyyy

[@jacksonduncan2931]

Thanks Yee! Miss you bud

[@geraldtone5914]

i'm 250lbs. I would roll backwards after about 6 minutes.

[@serevinvukele8046]

And stop others rolling backwards.

[@ericpmoss]

Haha - I’d stop after the 5% section and say, “Nailed it!”

[@casuallycycling9339]

210lbs here and my legs are burning just watching. Lmao 😂😂😂

[@allenjay896]

😂

[@thebr0wnhornet]

I like how the 3 spoke wheel has graphics that say “3-spoke”

[@ericpmoss]

I love how Asians name things in English. When I was in Seoul, some of the shop names were “16oz Coffee”, “20oz Coffee”, and “32cm Ice Cream”. Then there was “A Beef Intestines Story”, “Self Barbecue”, and “Man Love Dog”.

[@RioCiclismo]

Wow, Jack you weren't joking. Can't believe you did it with that bike. Really showed me I gotta upgrade my engine before upgrading my bike!

[@jacksonduncan2931]

It isn’t either or. You can do both 😉

[@michaelstratton5223]

I used to have that mindset too, but I actually think my fitness improved when I got an expensive bike because the gears go higher and also I'm now more stoked about riding on long bike paths, so I do it more often, whereas long distance riding used to be not nearly as fun on a budget bike. There's something really irritating about people passing you while giving way less effort than you just becausse they have better bikes than you. It made me feel really discouraged, and that feeling can ruin a workout.

[@donadams5094]

Fun video, but I feel like I missed something. What was the point in having the climber on a 36 pound bike? Seems like everything that happened after that was, if not irrelevant, at least predictable. On a 7kg bike, the climber still wins handily, even with a dropped chain. I have clearly misunderstood something.

[@loc9588]

yeah you are missing the fact that it is for fun. and to see if he can keep up with non climber who has advantage

[@starlitshadows]

Gearing, which clearly backfired lol

[@RayWolf01]

Great example of “its not the bike but the athlete” so train hard forget about the marginal gains and spending unnecessary to make you 2-3 watts faster.

[@JBmadera]

my home town! what a great place to grow up and to get hooked on cycling. fun video as always

[@kestralrider313]

Thanks for the video, can you share the segment details or a link? I searched segments on Strava and found the hill on Google maps, but couldn't find a segment that appeared to match. I'd love to give it a try with some friends.

[@pmcmpc]

If you've never ridden a bike with those cheap bladed aluminium wheels, you wouldn't believe the amount of flex (or how heavy they are). It feels like you're going backwards on the flat, let alone uphill.

[@geminatea]

minor edit: Xmas tree hill is in Corte Madera not Larkspur

[@anthonycasey57]

love the kick stand 😂

[@Korkinator17]

That is insanely funny. 800 feet in 1.14 miles equals 13.3%. You know what also equals 13.3%? 133 meters climb in one kilometer.

[@Jm-gf9mb]

Jeff is look like more climber than jackson, based on their body 😂

[@snoop3398]

Gonna need to see Andrew Feather on the channel

[@collinkendall2028]

sweet kick stand bro! only missing the saddle bag!

[@dacman69]

When you drop a vchain you don't have to stop. Overshoot in the opposite. Direction where the chain was dropped. Gently pedal until the chain ring picks up the train. You can practice this on your trainer.

[@UenoLocker54]

That looked like it hurt. I like this style of vid, would be nice to see more 1 on 1 stuff.

[@FearTheBRIX]

AWESOME VIDEO!🔥🔥🔥 my only 2çent feedback is you guys should have done a fair amount of rest, have another go and SWITCHED BIKES☺️ and we’ll see how different the outcome would be! 😉 Other than that it was Spectacular !!

[@John-op5vi]

Attackiing during a machanical! Forshame! Good stuff guys.

[@erik_midtskogen]

36 pounds?? I don't think my grandmother's balloon-tyre 3-speed Raleigh from the 1930s weighed that much, even with the steel rack, fenders, and full wrap-around chain-guard included.

[@ChrisP978]

Vintage bikes were about 50 pounds. They got a lot lighter in the 70's when they started perfecting thin-wall steel tubing, about 28-30 pounds then.

[@morosis82]

It's the aero look with the cheap materials. You get away with all the aero on an expensive bike because they use expensive materials to reduce the weight, not so on a Eurobike.

[@wsegoras]

man, it's impossible to get one of those Eurobikes in Europe

[@loc9588]

why would you want one

[@danielmanning9403]

@@loc9588 For the meme

[@serevinvukele8046]

Yes, in a skip.

[@wsegoras]

@@loc9588 just imagine winning a race on one

[@PaganiZondaF650hp]

They are also available here on Amazon but with a different name. Curious why they hint at Europe for selling in the US. It’s not like the Europe version is called chinabike or usabike

[@fwschnaar3179]

Well there goes your Knees 🤪🚴‍♂️🚴‍♀️🚴‍♂️… OMG Had to add… The Euro Bike had a Quick Stand 😂

[@yakuzao1]

Lol he is biking with a bike kickstand 🤣

[@c.s.4273]

Even my Fatbike with its 4.6"/124mm wide tires is lighter than this Eurobike! Imagine being beaten by a Fatbike uphill! 😮

[@tobias5256]

bro got dat aerodynamic kickstand

[@vinniep01]

Is there a take home for the average Jo? Gearing maybe, being able to pedal at a preferred cadence and therefore a power you can sustain.

[@ShuKatashSam]

Two climbs of note: Mix Canyon off Pleasant Valley Road in Vacaville area and Gate's Canyon not far from that. Give those two a ride with another climber. Last mile are both ugly. Coming down those hills are worse than the climb. Bring a disc brake road bike. Awesome Video.

[@aleq]

Is this GCN or Eurobike’s strangely expanding marketing campaign? 😂

[@tmkim]

Thanks guys for showing some of the best locals riding in the bay area! I miss these roads!

[@struancochrane753]

Insane power from Jackson nearly 400watts for 11 mins, very rough maths total train weight 96kg playing your 85kg. I do love my ulterga 52-36 11-34 but I can't produce 400 watts for 10 mins

[@serevinvukele8046]

A 39-28 is a silly gear for that hill.

[@struancochrane753]

@@serevinvukele8046 🤣, wouldn't have made much of a video with 36-34 as you smoked smoked the Euro bike and Jackson.

[@MiroMateev]

Love the kickstand on the bike, I wish this was a thing. 😃

[@vinny9152]

I did not expect a $350 bike to have disc brakes, definitely will need it on the way down lol.

[@russellspeight5175]

They won't be brakes for very long.... :D

[@dfbdf3324]

@@russellspeight5175 They'll become breaks :)

[@SingaporeUntold]

I think they melt. I forget which video where they failed

[@Subie-Driver]

I’d really like doing the going back down part.

[@adamgriss2025]

Nobody’s going to call out the kickstand doping? Those boffins at UCI would have had their panties in a bunch if they found out! 😂😂😂

[@BenZCardiff]

I lived halfway up that hill! Had the CR for running for a bit. Sigh.

[@edmancuso]

That eurobike must be filled with lead! That's 2 pounds heavier than my fat bike!😂

[@Alan_Hans__]

I actually don't mind the look of the Eurobike. It's a shame that it hasn't been put on a diet.

[@kyle_advance]

Come to Seattle to do some training. Lots of hills in the 15-20+% range.

[@bionicgeff]

That 36 lb bike woulda totally killed the downhill on a roundtrip race

[@hebrews11vs5]

Huge power numbers there guys! Way to go!

[@billfrigo7602]

I did a grueling 6 mile climb last weekend that was 4% average grade, let me know if you want me on the show for the next challenge.

[@devinmorrison7131]

Ouch, 19lbs for a TCR? Do you have lead weights in the frame?

[@myronkemp9417]

you didn't even take the kickstand off the Eurobike... lol...

[@Niknamew]

It's definitely longer so it's not as punchy as this climb, but have you ever ridden Mix Canyon Road near Vacaville?

[@dorseykindler9544]

I’ve heard of Mix Canyon! Have you done it?

[@Niknamew]

@@dorseykindler9544 I have! Although I only made it about a mile away from the top because there was too much snow on the road. (I road it back in February when NorCal randomly got snow at low elevations)

[@Mububban23]

Crazy power and fitness. I found a local 500m climb that looks like an exponential curve, maxing at 18%, on my ~32lb dual sus MTB with 32-46 gearing, and I almost had a heart attack by the end of it. I’m interested to try it on my ~19lb road bike with 34-34 gearing and see if the lighter weight but harder gearing can see me up it. I don’t like the thought of having to unclip on such a steep segment if I fail!!!

[@aczech12]

road bike will be harder because of gearing.. uncliping is easy, but try to clip in and start on such incline..

[@eArcHu]

Nice sportmanship, cool video.

[@camerond8176]

Everyone poops on the Eurobike.....................But it's done everything the big boys have done at 1/10th the price.

[@Tuan6969]

I know exactly how that feels climbing with the cheap heavy bike. I'm climbing bridge twice a week and need about 15km from home to that bridge before i can climb it 😂

[@mattgomez115]

Fun video! Really looking forward to watching the KOM attempt!

[@joed7185]

Climbing with Disc Brakes 😂

[@mck3131]

Guys are insane shape. Awesome stuff

[@igatago9166]

Oh man. Summit is crazy steep! I've only gone down it.

[@ChromeLuxx]

Cheap bike comes with a tail pipe!!

[@tulga3293]

Omg waiting for next episode that you guys switched the bike 🙂🙃

[@centurygarage1809]

I have two pair myself!

[@gerrysecure5874]

I don't get the idea of this test. Is it sprinter vs climber or is it light bike with big gear vs heavy bike with granny gear. Please enlighten me.

[@BPM-xh4yu]

I want to see someone KOM this to the actual summit, including the dirt bit

[@matt4drummer]

I know weight is important, but the stiffness of the carbon bike is also going to play a big part in converting the Watts to movement.

[@NorCalCycling]

not as big as you think

[@radiocontrolled9181]

My road bike is aluminum frame with carbon fork, it is quite stiff I barely feel any flex when going uphill out of the saddle and putting down the watts.

[@mstrasser]

oooof. that cadence is just making my legs hurt!

[@JimSowers]

Maybe I'm missing it -- where is the link to the actual ride route? I just see a Strava link to Jeff's account but no links there to this ride. THanks.

[@Flashback_Jack]

What the heck kinda bike is that? Looks like it's from the cheap bin at Amazon.

[@vnderrr]

should have stopped w him while he fixed the bike. obvious mechanical problem, poor sportsmanship just keeping on the gas in this kind of competition the difference in watts was crazy. I think the meters must have been calibrated differently, doubt eurobike actually costs 50 - 100w that's nuts

[@schubeedoo9097]

Cool video and insane climb! How do you measure all these data that are projected on top of the video?

[@netflix_and_zwift]

eurobike has a kick stand... Jeff loses for ever being behind that bike!!! :) funny video

[@NorCalCycling]

Jackson is STRONG

[@brennus01]

I want to SEE A REMATCH!!!

[@kestralrider313]

Jeff, see the reply to my previous question/post. Looks like the spambots have been busy and are offering up your TCR to me as a new ride:) I'm not sure if you see all these replies or if you have a way to blacklist them. They even used the NC logo on their spoof site with a tiny black at the top.

[@M3Atelier-Initiative]

you actually should have stopped and waited for him to get the chain on before continuing if you wanted to do the experiment properly. The fact that he caught you basically says you would have been dropped (( no question )) had he not had a mechanical.

[@flashthompson5952]

Wow that was the first entry level bike I started with I thought it was a one off 😅 The old trusty euro bike

[@WanderingSword]

it's false to say that climbing is all about w/kg. If 2 persons have the same w/kg, but one person weighs more, then this person will go faster because he still has more absolute power to overcome wind resistance.

[@danielsmith7856]

I bought a giant TCR in August. Biggest mistake in my cycling life. Now I can't sell it as no one's interested. It's not a climbers bike

[@midonabdullah2293]

Hi.. what bike computer or camera do you use on this video. It shows heart rate, wattage, map, elev ?

[@stevocanuck]

at first lance you look more like the climber and he looks like the sprinter

[@davidrogers6287]

All climbers out there, try Charleston rd ,Volcano Ca . Go from Volcano to Shake ridge rd .This is one tough ride.

[@tewaewae]

Jeff, use feet and miles but can you also show metric as well? You North Americans are so 19th century. Fun video but. cheers

[@BernieMc]

Jai said, 'socks on caterpillars' only because the usual saying here is, 'we're not here to fuck spiders', see equally confusing

[@sepg5084]

I don't get why channels do these comparisons of very expensive bikes vs bottom of the barrel bikes. Comparing very expensive bikes with more realistic budget bike options of around $800-$1000 dollars makes more sense.

[@randellgribben9772]

mix canyon is a steep ride..outside vacaville ca.. starts out soft and easy.. then it get hard.. in a few corners, you come around them.. and is so steep you think your face will hit the pavement

[@fernandofonseca5030]

You guys are Monsters!!!!! WOw!!!! Congrats to both.

[@suhandrikthung1791]

How to make video with all sensor display like that??? Thank you

[@markozivanic5813]

Wait…who is sprinter here again?

[@toyotalover1]

Great job guys 😂

[@jediavatar]

I would die. Plain and simple. I am sure my heart would just explode, and I'm pretty sure that is worse than a dropped chain! 🤣 Well done you two!

[@milkatouteallure8602]

French cyclist tries running here !

[@nolanr1400]

One of the two is on TRT

[@jason200912]

Every single bike should have a backup rear granny gear. The only exception is downhill and indoor racing in which no granny gears are needed

[@johnfrankimpeduglia4742]

Did he get into the granny ring for the climb-at those grades, it would make a big difference to allow a higher cadence.

[@medarhosoloistarider6515]

i like it ur realistic like gcn u use cheap bike for comparison proving its not all about the prize

[@rakyantube-tube1335]

unfair. The climber uses an retro bike, and the sprinter uses a modern bike...

[@reddiver7293]

Anyone ever rode up Sugarloaf in Santa Rosa area? The front wheel of my old Cannondale red shred got very light

[@BlackyBrownDestruction9337]

I like climbing on a bike, even though it’s embarrassing when people are watching

[@ohhi5237]

that eurobike would like slick with its bars flipped and a double sixpack haning off it

[@adembali]

brove guys Greetings from Uludag (mountain)

[@youtubechangemynamewhy]

Eurobike is actually Chinabike. Don’t be fooled.

[@tonygSDWR]

Jeff, are there any NorCal codes for one those sweet Eurobike stem spacers??