Norda 005 Preview From The Running Event!

Finally got to hold the Norda 005 and I cannot believe the level of engineering that went into this shoe. So far this is one of the shoes that has amazed me the most at TRE!
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[@andreasklawitter2022]

drainage and breathabilitt 😍😍 bring it to the 001s! love the shoe but the way it holds water 😭

[@ConversationalPace]

Yeah I'd love to see this 005 upper carry over to the 001 at some point!

[@nickmartire]

@@ConversationalPace You'll see 2 new major upgrades coming to the norda 001 by Fall 2025. After 4 years, the beloved 001 workhouse gets a major upgrade

[@ConversationalPace]

@@nickmartire 😍 😍 The Norda founder with the 2025 teaser! You heard it here first!!!

[@Louis-MartinTremblay]

Just thought I would help with some of the details you mentioned, the midsole is Arnitel / TPEE ( not with vibram ) . For the upper material, it's the weave that was done with less material and in a way that allows more breathability and drainage, nothing to do with stitches. Thanks for taking the time to talk about our latest shoe and I look forward to both of your reviews once you try it on the trails ! 😎

[@ConversationalPace]

Thanks for the clarification! Super excited to try these out when they arrive!

[@tro9490]

Looking forward to this even at the $$$, I’ve been wearing 001 for a couple years, 1000+km on my 1st pair and 400k on the 2nd and still going strong, so yea, you pay more, but the durability/longevity is worth it. I’ve worn 001 in 100k races, no blisters, feet feel great after and next day, so i am sold, even at $$$ and love supporting small CDN brand!

[@ConversationalPace]

We gotta support our small brands! Being able to chat with the founder about the shoe he helped make is something that would never happen from a Nike or Salomon.

[@nolanmarshall3212]

Suspiciously light is incredible

[@swiftcolin]

the cost may put me on the streets but I will buy this, lol

[@ConversationalPace]

For real though. But if it lasts 600 miles, that's not horrible value 😅

[@wolfiesworldmedia]

Same cost as a pair of Satisfy shorts 😂 that’s how you bargain justify

[@quirckybaldguy]

It seems that a new generation of TPEE foams is coming! The new Saucony superfoam is also a TPEE. Seems Adidas was early to the game with Lightstrike pro! Remember the discussion on the Tecton X3 about how at least some Peba foams don’t seem to handle water very well and the Lightstrike of the Speed Ultra did better? Wouldn’t it be exciting if TPEE turns out to be the better superfoam for the trails?

[@tysonslade1852]

Is this considered a trail super shoe? Does a super shoe have to have a plate? This is by far the shoe I was most excited to see. Glad it’s been getting some great comments.

[@ConversationalPace]

I don't think a trail super shoe has to have a plate. I think what makes it super is if it helps you get from A to B faster than a regular trainer. This is going to work far better on technical terrain vs plated super shoes due to it's better adaptability to the trail. Of course I'll get to the bottom of this and let you know for sure once we get them in and put them through the full testing 👍

[@jeffmadiro2470]

Shoe intrigues me. Just have a hard time with the price tag even though the components are top notch.

[@kellenscott555]

Especially non-plated shoes. Reduced recovery time from plated super shoes is a game changer. I still buy from EBay though 😂

[@ConversationalPace]

@@kellenscott555 I think one of the biggest factors that drives the price of this shoe up is the quantities that they build the shoe in. They're probably dealing with a few thousand of each size, whereas if they got to make 50-100k of each size, those sorts of bulk discounts would hugely help. Regarding reduced recovery time from the plated super shoes, there is increasing evidence it is the foam that is the biggest helper and not the plate. In most of these shoes, there is a plate to aid in propulsion a little bit, but mainly to help control the movement of the foam in the right direction and provide stability. many shoe companies are starting to figure out different foam geometries, widths, and other plate materials to still allow runners to benefit from the foams, but without the potential negative side effects from running too much in stiff plated shoes 👍

[@wolfiesworldmedia]

Less costly than black canyon 100k - funny how price is a perception construct

[@blaineshaw136]

Curious to see and hear how the fit on this model is! Definitely considering this shoe for my 50 miler next year

[@ConversationalPace]

We're hoping to review it on the earlier side, so we'll get all the fit details for you 👍

[@guillaumecovat2117]

On the spec, They look like the GOAT trail shoes for me. Light weight, grip not too much stack TPEE foam But …. 325 $ 😢 too expensive for a trail shoes that last 500km…

[@ConversationalPace]

I imagine that the price is a product of producing these in limited quantities, getting exclusivity to the Vibram Megagrip Elite for the season, etc, but I hear ya it's a massive investment for some footwear. On another comment, Zach Garner said he is at nearly 800 miles in a pair!

[@wolfiesworldmedia]

Price is funny, this is 1/4 the cost of Cocodona and you get 3x the miles.

[@guillaumecovat2117]

@@ConversationalPace thanks for the answer. I Hope you are right about the milles . As I understand TPEE could be similaire as lightstrike pro for example ? . In my experience on my adidas shoes they start to fade away after 500km. Finger cross the norda foam might be better ? we will see !

[@ConversationalPace]

@@guillaumecovat2117 Yes, to my knowledge it's the same material as TPEE. Interestingly, I have always found many of the Adidas Lightstrike Pro shoes I've worn to be some of the most durable. The TPEE is likely sourced from a different factory and is a different blend, so it very could be better!

[@RowOfMushyTiT]

Does it have a heel counter?

[@ConversationalPace]

I'm pretty sure it did not have a heel counter

[@RowOfMushyTiT]

@@ConversationalPace Pity, as floppy counters don't work for me. Will see what the Kjerag 2 is like.

[@mokefish8126]

Is dyneema really necessary on a shoe whose midsole/outsole won't last? Just use standard upper materials and knock a good $100 off the price, no?

[@zacharygarner9425]

On my way to 800 miles in one pair of these so it actually does make sense. Really glad there is nothing to wear out on the upper

[@ConversationalPace]

Yeah and just having full confidence that the upper isn't going to fail you when you are mid run or important race brings a lot of peace of mind

[@nickmartire]

@@ConversationalPace At norda, we use bio-Dyneema for lightness, protection, strength and durability. We embody the philosophy of lighter, faster, strong. With this ground breaking material, we can make the shoes protect the athlete, and reduce the weight to increase their efficiency. Almost every other brand who uses generic upper materials have had the experience of their shoes tearing rapidly. Example Rich Lockwood used one pair for his training, then to 1st Place at Run Rabbit Run, then he used the same pair at UTCT to a 7th place at UTMB Cape Town. Rich is one of the top runners in the world, and his pair had over 700 miles (1,000km) in them before he took the start line. Most pros start races with fresh pairs, but norda's are make with the finest available compounds, and our elite norda trail team puts 1,000 miles into our super shoes - no brand that I know of has or can do that

[@Warfieldrun]

Is there another shoe this light that’s a legit 100 mile option for middle of the pack types?

[@ConversationalPace]

I'd have to do some digging around and especially in regards to cushioning and weight, this has got to be one of the top ones. Adidas Agravic Speed and la Sportiva Prodigio are on the lighter side, but at least a full ounce heavier than this 005

[@Warfieldrun]

@@ConversationalPaceThanks! If I have my conversion correct these new Nordas come in around the current Kjerag, which also looks like it’s getting lighter and taller. That might make for a great comparison of the super light durable trail racers, Kjerag 2 vs Norda 005. Seems like they might be close ish in stack height too although I’m a little fuzzy on the Nordas.

[@ConversationalPace]

@@Warfieldrun Yes, I think the Kjerag 2 and 005 are going to be very closely compared when they release. I'll have to doublecheck the numbers, but they are going to be very similar in stack height and same midsole compound as well

[@uloutdoors]

over 300$? are you f kidding me?

[@ConversationalPace]

Well their 001 and 002 trainers are 295, so it's actually less of a markup from trainer to racer than many other brands 😂😂

[@wolfiesworldmedia]

You must not race many 100 milers and no 200+ many 100 mile races cost 300+

[@nickmartire]

That's the reaction from many, however if you have the opportunity hold the 005 in hand, you will realise this is a Trail shoe like none that has ever been made before. Made with nearly 100% bio-Dyneema (the lightest, strongest material on Earth 15x stronger than steel by weight), and a 100% Arnitel midsole, and the Vibram Mega Grip ELITE (Vibram's finest rubber ever created and exclusive to norda 005), it's not a shoe, it's a Pagani. Where do you live, will let you know who will be the closest retailer so you can see it?