Norman Malcolm on Wittgenstein (1967)

Norman Malcolm gives a lecture on the thought of Ludwig Wittgenstein in 1967 at Cooper Union in New York.
#philosophy #wittgenstein #language

[@yczhou777]

A lecture of pure clarity.

[@pectenmaximus231]

Great exposition/upload

[@propos05]

Every night, by 10 pm, I am sleeping.

[@longcastle4863]

It would be most appropriate to say, “I am sleeping”, to someone in a dream

[@Philosophy_Overdose]

And who would you be saying this to exactly?

[@longcastle4863]

@@Philosophy_Overdose You’d be saying it to your representation of someone important to you in some way. Which is something we also do in our waking hours as well.

[@Philosophy_Overdose]

​@@longcastle4863The correct answer was: no one. There's no one even _there_ for you to speak to, apart from the figment of your own imaginary dream world in your own head.

[@longcastle4863]

@@Philosophy_Overdose Not sure we’re saying anything really that different, but haven’t you ever rehearsed a conversation in your mind you would like to have with someone or wish you had had with someone? One thing Nietzsche said about dreams I have always liked (paraphrasing): “People never dream but in a way that is interesting to them.” To me this suggests, our dreams are about our lives, our needs; our wants, desires and fears. That is why our dreams are always compelling to us. No one, as far as I know, ever has a boring dream. When I talk to someone in my dreams, it never feels like I’m talking to no one. But since in my waking hours I know no one was really there, reason tells me I was engaging with my construct of someone. Just like when I climb mountains in my dreams, I know no real mountain was there, just my mental construction of a mountain.

[@YuLu-iv8cz]

@@Philosophy_Overdose But that's not "no one." You'd be speaking to yourself, then.

[@GottfriedLeibnizYT]

All hail to the Vienna Circle.

[@Robinson8491]

they were idiots in hindsight'

[@GottfriedLeibnizYT]

@@Robinson8491 They were kings.

[@Robinson8491]

@@GottfriedLeibnizYT except their philosophy was rubbish. Really. Wittgenstein is a legend though

[@GottfriedLeibnizYT]

@@Robinson8491 Wittgenstein is their godfather. And we wouldn't have had Quine if there hadn't been logical positivists.

[@dans6046]

​@@GottfriedLeibnizYT Wittgenstein is their 'godfather' because they adored the Tractatus, he then all but disowned that work and completely departed from their philosophy with the Investigations. The only similarities between them and L.W. is that they were asking similar questions.

[@cheri238]

I loved Wittgenstein. Genius!! Quote: What is wanted is not the will to believe, but the wish to find out. The only thing that will redeem Mankind is cooperation. Bertrand Russell Why did Bertrand Russell and Wittgenstein have a falling out? Bertrand Russell was just a mathematician. Is that correct? He is now explaining why in his Tractatus. 22 years he wrote prodigiously, the architecture piece in 1929 until his death 1959 and not published until 1964. May I ask this question? Which college would one rather go to, Cambridge or Oxford? In the United States the elite colleges were bought out a long time ago, by powers of greed, except for those that had the opportunity to go and think outside of the box. Look at us now in 2024 and college students and many of their professors are asking their colleges to divest from backing Israel with weapons of war and Aipec lobbying against the genocide and apartide of the Palestinian poeple. College activitism all over our world for better ideas for the betterment of humanity of all races and religious backgrounds, or even atheists who are developing a higher moral conscience of inclusiveness instead of greed and power of those individuals and politicians who are only caring about their own self-interest of greed. Racism and fascism are words of ignorance. Socrates taught Plato, Plato taught Aristole, Aristole taught Alexander the Great. What about the Gilgamesh Epic? Centuries of wars and and religious divisions by cultures traveling and languages mixing for centuries. What creates this chaos and violence? What is book knowledge and what creates psychological impact on the mind? What is the difference between intellect and intelligence? What is the ending of time? Can time be measured? What is the space between thought? When one knows, one doesn't know and when one doesn't know, then and only then one may. First it begins with oneself and an inquiry of being able to see with perception of awareness of insights with awareness. A journey of the present now. Life, loving, living, death are one. A general definition of civilization: A civilized society is exhibiting the fine qualities of truth, adventure, love and peace. Philosopher Alfred North Whitehead

[@standowner6979]

You write like someone that is mentally ill

[@dontbothertoreply9755]

The greed idea is false therefore nothing of your argument can be proved.

[@dontbothertoreply9755]

It is ridiculous how misserable is the human existence to modern philosophy, you cannot even enunciate, one could say that this was completely debunked by AI and such but it is always a new form of bullying towards the human condition.

[@MrPlaythroughhd]

what was debunked by AI?