North Dakota State Football: The Story of the Most Dominant College Football Dynasty

[@WhiteTeeShirt]

Personally, going to the school. We would almost not watch the games cause we knew every game was a blow out.... 51-20 was not a shocking thing to hear.... absolutely unbelievable program

[@owenspalding971]

Yeah I tailgated a ton but only went to 2 games my entire time at the school.

[@ryanr9299]

They need to go up to D1.. Mountain west division

[@jasonbrooks3219]

NDSU doesn't rebuild they reload every year.

[@buckeyevinnie8456]

Jason Brooks you are so right my friend, Im from THE STATE OF OHIO and YOUNGSTOWN STATE plays them every year and just cannot beat this team. Please checkout my youtube channel BUCKEYE VINNIE I COVER OHIO STATE FOOTBALL AND OHIO HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL, please watch my videos and subscribe to my channel i just subscribed to yours.

[@derrickavery8280]

Damn right

[@NickCookCreates]

When will it end :'(

[@imcarlosjr4898]

So true

[@tommiller7902]

Trey Lance is what happens in NCAA Road to Glory when your 5 star player chooses to play in the MAC. I watched him in person when he came to South Dakota State and he’s unreal. He’s literally a cheat code in the FCS.

[@stopclickbaiting2553]

Ex Popham I went to high school with him never lost a home game in my 4 years there wait for his younger brother too awesome wr who is gonna have some big offers

[@jackasswhiskyandpintobeans9344]

I grew up in Fargo from 3rd grade. It was my father that makes me interested in NDSU. He loved Fargo and NDSU. The shame is he passed before NDSU became a positive talking point. Fargo is a college town.

[@MrZepontiff]

You must be very old. They have been a "positive talking point" for a long time.

[@mjszn5032]

The problem with fargo in my opinion is the weather and the crazy weather

[@mjszn5032]

@Table-Country pinxing THRYM Firearms 27 makes since

[@jackasswhiskyandpintobeans9344]

@@MrZepontiff 57yo. My dad died in 2000.

[@jackasswhiskyandpintobeans9344]

@@mjszn5032 It is cold there.

[@siouxrube]

In a couple years they will once again have a QB in Trey Lance go in the first round of the nfl draft

[@RespectthePoint]

Maybe next year!

[@natedogfb5277]

If wentz stays healthy I could see 2 ndsu starting qbs in the NFL only leading to better QB recruits and the cycle continues

[@siouxrube]

Aaron Espinoza and the Wentz dude just happens to be my nephew. The entire team is just hard working humble guys who obviously know how to win

[@natedogfb5277]

@@siouxrube yeah man I'm sure the organization is good but Wants deserves better fans than Philly all of them just talk shit about him and want Nick Foles now if his WR and him stay healthy watch out

[@siouxrube]

natedogfb52 philly fans can be brutal but there are plenty of great fans too. He loves it there as he tunes out all the outside noise.

[@capt.america6296]

If you’re a kid that’s been over looked by FBS schools, this is where you go. NDSUbeats Minnesota With Minnesota kids that the gophers didn’t want. The gophers barely beat them when NDSU WAS still division two and transitioning to division one and NDSU had a chance to win on a last-second field goal but it got blocked. Takes a lot of kids that are 6 foot six 230 pounds and turns them in the NFL lineman. And the quarterback coach obviously knows how to judge talent and coach them up.

[@zacharyhoyte493]

Capt. America I actually believe that for some athletes once they don’t have power 5 offers they may chose to go to schools like NDSU or JMU which are top tier FCS programs which receive more national attention

[@jesusoftheapes]

the 6' 230 comment is a bit of an over statement but they do take a lot of 6'4'' 270 lb guys and turns them into good O-lineman guys and make them into lineman . and make due with undersized kids on defense and build them into good CFL and college talents . Derrek Tuszka is the only d-lineman that has made the NFL in a long time . 1938 -2020 only 9 offensive lineman have ever been drafted from NDSU . Though the FCS and schools like NDSU are the places that keeps the CFL going and many players who come from that place do make a good go of professional football in Canada ! The CFL is sooo underrated ! People need to watch that league ! It's as good as the NFL with enough different to keep a 2nd football league interesting . I think more people need to give the CFL a longer look . Especially those who really liked the idea of the XFL or AAF . If 10% of the NFL fans tuned into the CFL over the 18 game season they hold from May through late fall I think it would catch on down here . I think they should rename it the North American Football League and try putting just 3 teams in the NORTHERN USA again and that league would become a different animal . Like Duluth MN , Gary Indiana and Marquette MI. That would give the league 12 teams . Which would allow for 4 divisions .

[@capt.america6296]

I said 6’6” 230. There is one in the latest recruiting class. Wasn’t landen laechler a tall skinny kid that played a lot of basketball, which requires footwork, required for college level lineman. Ex. Landen Lechler. Kids 6’4” 270 and could be ready to play as freshman, NDSU doesn’t get them often like Dillon. NDSU takes the kids that that take a couple years to put on the weight and develop at every position,which most everyone could read into, except you, 😂😂😂

[@jesusoftheapes]

@@capt.america6296 Well you said it now . But you said something else in the original and you know it . I knew what you meant and was just fuckin with you . Do not take it so serious. lol NDSU is good at developing players and no one is denying that fact .

[@williamjohnson6588]

I would love to see NDSU play Fleck’s Gophers. Both teams are better than they’ve ever been, and the geographic proximity lends itself to a natural semi-rivalrous game.

[@kboanddbo]

I took a trip from Seattle with my grandparents in 2016 to go to that NDSU @ Iowa game (they're Iowa alumni) and I was beyond impressed by that team. Fantastic football team and their fans were a class act.

[@univere7496]

Oregon vs NDSU will be a great game. Can’t wait

[@justxjrod3590]

Nijle Kendall ehhh...should be a blowout

[@rythaguy1893]

Jared Winegar as a fellow duck we can’t take them too lightly lol I think the the final score may show blowout but they’ll play us tough for a while

[@univere7496]

Ry TheGuy definitely, I agree. It’s going to be a tough one.

[@a-cell4564]

It’s merely a prep game for OSU. They are a threat, but week two is what I’m terrified of. If we beat both of them, and keep up that production, we might be in the playoffs.

[@rythaguy1893]

A-Cell for sure it almost seems like more people are talking about this game than OSU which is very confusing lol. As long as we have a competent qb I think we win both and do make playoff. Do you think it’ll be shough and are you confident in him?

[@adamlogan9500]

They need to join the mountain west conference

[@mjszn5032]

Yea I think they would suit their self's if they play fbs but I think the sun belt would work too

[@blakepittman6679]

@@mjszn5032 travel costs would be outrageous. The athletic department has already stated that they do not plan to move up. The school would lose way too much money to justify the move, money they cannot afford to waste.

[@MikeBNumba6]

@@blakepittman6679 good point

[@shawnheidingsfelder8179]

They would have to have a bigger stadium. I doubt 19k is enough capacity to be a member of a FBS conference, even if they would probably outdraw some schools. I don't think the school would be interested in building a much bigger stadium, given their budget.

[@jaredmcbride9632]

@@shawnheidingsfelder8179 North Dakota State's football stadium is to small it would be like playing in the holt area in Pocatello Idaho or the Kibbie Dome at the University of Idaho and FBS Schools don't want to play at a wimpy small stadium at North Dakota State.

[@lij2015]

Respect to the Bison! I've loved watching my JMU Dukes go at you all over the past few years

[@jq1683]

I sat just behind JMU bench when they beat NDSU in the dome. Was a wild game. JMU was talking a lot of smack up early to the crowd, then NDSU came back and they shut it, but then they won and talked smack again lol.

[@nathanmcmenamin3748]

SOme of the best fans in football come from JMU... mush respect and ive continued to follow them in their transition to FBS. One of the best times ever i had at a game was the national championship game. Traded my Bison Jersey with a JMU fans jersey. Was kickass and had SO much fun with them.

[@GundamGokuTV]

The balls on Oregon to schedule this club. LUL

[@kiethnosweat6567]

😂😂😂😂 “the balls in Oregon”

[@amarirasheed6]

Oregon is going to beat the brakes off of them

[@PallahDaOracle]

@@amarirasheed6 NDSU will be ready. They gon smack the ducks in the bill.

[@danny5365]

Pallah DaOracle lets be honest Oregon’s winning by at least 21

[@StrandedWithKayden]

I'm a huge NDSU football fan, but this is going to be a huge game for them especially with one of the best teams. Oregon isn't t the best but this last year especially they've been really dominant on there offense. If NDSU does win this is going to be a huge game for them just like the Iowa game around 2016 if i'm correct. The balls on Oregon yes they're really trying to see what happens but they're ego if they lose will be destroyed.

[@D3fyTyrants]

As a Bama fan I couldn't agree more with the caption of this video. This video proves everything with stats and facts. Very well made and I hope to see NDSU in the FBS one day.

[@dominicfaison5889]

This doesn’t sound sincere. You want a NDSU vs Bama game that’s why lol To fatten Bamas list of accomplishments

[@D3fyTyrants]

@@dominicfaison5889 No I want to see them succeed in the FBS. Who's to say they wouldn't beat Bama? Why doubt them like that? If they were to get into one of the power five conferences they have a legitimate shot at a title. I'm die hard Bama but I'm a fan of the sport first so I enjoy seeing teams succeed even if it's not my team. I don't know where I sounded insincere in my comment. I was giving respect to the guy who made this video because he did an excellent job and I was giving respect to NDSU because I have been following them for the last 7 years. I love what they have done with this program.

[@dominicfaison5889]

Chef TQ I was just joking around lol

[@D3fyTyrants]

@@dominicfaison5889 ohhh okay lol hard to tell through text sometimes

[@dominicfaison5889]

Chef TQ you made some good points though, respect ✊🏾

[@khatib]

You can't really have the discussion about moving up without mentioning that the Fargodome is too small, unable to be upgraded for expanded seating, and too expensive for the school to replace. That's the biggest hurdle.

[@RespectthePoint]

True!

[@hrgames6978]

And can’t play outside, as frostbite would literally set in

[@datoneguage7859]

khatib finally someone who understands why bison can’t move up

[@leefischer5814]

And it's also about the $ for the visiting team's take is not enough to leave NDSU with anything if at all. At least that's the way my brother in law explained it and he was an accountant for them so it must be true.

[@tidefanyankee2428]

@Red HawK13 Where do you get that 15K average for FBS teams from? Link? When you say "max capacity" is that in seating during a game, or when you include the floor space for a concert? And you're wrong about max capacity for the Fargodome for football games. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fargodome Humm, "red hawk"....isn't that the name of the Illinois State mascot? And doesn't Illinois State play in the Missouri Valley Conference??? Yeah, I bet you would love to see the Bison move up..... but don't make things up, it makes your "red hawks" look bad. "They just don't want to move up".....yeah, that's not true and it sounds like sour grapes on your part.

[@mercychepi]

I'm not really a football fan, but after going to every NDSU home game I started to love watching football and Im proud to call it my school

[@presidentjayhawk9214]

I'm interested to see them playing Oregon

[@buckeyevinnie8456]

jhauk i would not surprise me if NDSU would pull off an upset. checkout my youtube channel BUCKEYE VINNIE I COVER OHIO STATE FOOTBALL AND OHIO HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL, please watch my videos and subscribe thanks.

[@thevideogamer2848]

as crazy as it seems i would take NDSU

[@presidentjayhawk9214]

@@buckeyevinnie8456 I will

[@buckeyevinnie8456]

@@presidentjayhawk9214 thanks my brother enjoy my videos.

[@buckeyevinnie8456]

@@presidentjayhawk9214 i just subbed to your channel.

[@lukaeissinger5556]

I love these videos covering NDSU. It’s great exposure for the Bison and the City of Fargo. GO BISON🤘💚💛

[@RespectthePoint]

Glad you enjoy it!

[@dennisgibsonii6316]

As a South Dakota state alum man that’s a rough division to be in.

[@leefischer5814]

Rough division... yes but easily the best division. Every Team in that division pushes each other to be better.

[@alexrolle6060]

@Derek Johansen or something You are right. There have been some very close games in the playoffs between the two teams. With lots of end of game drive winners.

[@handyguy501]

@@alexrolle6060 AND YET WE'RE FORCING THE MISSOURI VALLEY UP, TO BECOME THE CONFERENCE OF U.S.A.

[@stantaylor3350]

The jack rabbits are constantly biting at the Bison's heels. They CAN beat them every now & then, just not in the play offs. I'm a Bison fan,BUT one of these yrs SDSU will beat the BISON in the play offs. Just the law of average.

[@prollins6443]

Dakota Marker games are great games to go see!

[@profoundgreetingsfromneptune]

Thank you for making this excellent summary of the success of such an inspiring, praiseworthy team. I'm proud to be both a relatively new (i.e., since 2015) Bison fan and a strong supporter of the FCS, as well as of the FBS.

[@Chiefsfansince-qb1kt]

Loved this video. And YES, I believe that the North Dakota State Bison football program should DEFINITELY take it up a notch to full time D-1 and take on some of the major schools, like Ohio State, Notre Dame, Alabama, Penn State, USC, Washington, Texas, Oklahoma, Georgia, Michigan, et al. I am a Kansas Jayhawk fan and was witness to the 6-3 loss to North Dakota State in Lawrence, Kansas several seasons ago. I was thoroughly impressed with the businesslike manor North Dakota State deployed that evening in order to win that game and was further impressed with the fan support I saw from the followers of the Thundering Herd, numbering about 1,000 that particular evening. Then after seeing the NDSU football team take down Kansas State (in Manhattan Kansas), University of Minnesota at Minnesota, Iowa State and Iowa with both games in the state of Iowa, I have become a psuedo-fan of the program and believe they should adopt the nickname "Giant Killers." This program is LEGIT and it's my hope the AD at NDSU will reconsider NDSU's position within the college football ranks, as I believe the Thundering Herd football program could defeat quite a few D-1 powerhouses, simply because the NDSU team conducts itself in the proper manner. As I wrote earlier, they're very businesslike in their approach and their development of talented prospects into productive players is simply outstanding. Best of luck vs Oregon in a couple months. I'll be watching.

[@jasonclark7431]

Chiefsfansince1964 Thank you at least somebody now understands what does buy some fans know. And welcome to the thundering herd family

[@Chiefsfansince-qb1kt]

@@jasonclark7431 Thanks Jason. Attending a NDSU game at the Fargo Dome is now officially on my bucket list. Best wishes.

[@tidefanyankee2428]

Many, MANY of the kids who play for the Bison are the really good kids who either got hurt in their senior year of high school, or played behind a guy who was a top recruit at their position or played for a smaller high school or the larger school wanted them to play another position (like Trey Lance) so they were overlooked for one of those reasons. Many Bison players have a HUGE chip on their shoulder because of this so in their minds they have something to proof. Most of the Bison players redshirt, it's almost a given and the upperclassmen teach the younger guys. It's more of a fraternity/family with everyone doing what they can to make everyone else better for the betterment of the program as a whole. It truly IS a point of pride for Bison players. It's pretty much always been like that....not the cutthroat stuff you hear about in FBS programs where everyone is more worried about their individual stats and how it might effect them getting into the NFL and in what round. The Bison players and program figure that the better WE ALL do the better WE ALL look. There isn't much to do in Fargo, N.Dak in the dead of winter, so most of the players live in the weight room. There are Captain's practices and everyone shows up or they better have a darned good reason for not showing up. The Bison motto's is: "The strength of the Herd is the Bison, the strength of the Bison is the Herd"....and they mean it, because they live it. One more thing. Ask someone sometime how many stars Carson Wentz had coming out of high school in Bismarck, N.Dak....Rivals, Scout, ESPN recruiting etc..... They won't know generally. Carson Wentz had ZERO stars coming out of high school and if you look up player rankings by state you won't find much as far as players in N.Dak go. Yet Wentz was taken #2 overall in the NFL draft and could have just as easily gone #1. NDSU/Bison Alum from the 1980's.

[@maxdeborde6772]

if they beat oregon we need to seriously consider moving them to the fbs Edit did not expect this many replies😳😀

[@rostelllattimore7616]

They don't have enough money to play fbs teams 💯💯

[@mjszn5032]

@@rostelllattimore7616 then how do they play fbs teams?

[@yoteslayerisawesome6]

Project Bape because big time FBS teams pay smaller teams to play them. That’s the only reason cupcakes agree to play much better schools like Alabama, Clemson, and Ohio State. They get money out of it

[@mjszn5032]

@@yoteslayerisawesome6 make pretty good since

[@jeremygilbert7989]

I doubt it'll happen even if they do. Right now they're an unstoppable force in the FCS and their record shows it, why would they sacrifice that to become yet another middling team in the FBS? And what conference would they join? If they go Mountain West they may rack up plenty more wins but they'll never see a chance for a championship and if they target a power 5 they'd likely end up in the Big 10 and have fun fighting the power houses there so their best bet would be to go independent and the only independent team that ever even has a shot at a natty is Notre Dame, a school with a much bigger venue, brand recognition, and funding so they'd just be waffling about for the most part. Better for them to stay right where they are, honestly.

[@djaveryjr4155]

NDSU football team Is a beast they won 8 national championship of there 9 years that’s straight savage mode they my other team

[@benji9415]

I'm getting scouted right now by NDSU and honestly, I'm looking at them right now over FBS schools, the culture there is insane.

[@bradknowles7846]

Benji what position you play bro?

[@chadknudson]

In addition to a great football program, they are focused on building character that will translate to success in your life after sports.

[@benji9415]

Brad Knowles defensive end

[@deadman3880]

I think James Madison could handle FBS competition after rivaling North Dakota State for the FCS title they also barely lost to West Virgina

[@littledrummergirl_19]

Was just now scrolling hoping to find a JMU comment :) gotta represent 😌🙌🏼

[@chrisnash385]

JMU and NDSU are the top two teams in FCS hands down!

[@deadman3880]

Chris Nash yea they should switch them with New Mexico State and UMass

[@TnD_BigJax]

And there's the JMU fan.

[@risinbison1106]

JMU played us so hard last year in the championship game. Best competition and game all year. Go Bison.

[@DoctaDigital]

NDSU is amazing, but they for real should be FBS. They're next level man and you can tell it lol. Great vid!

[@dixienormous2355]

DeRon Reese yeah it sucks for other FCS schools

[@DoctaDigital]

@@dixienormous2355 oh yeah man, I'm Sam Houston fan and they destroyed us in the championship years ago lol.

[@dixienormous2355]

DeRon Reese lol yeah my cousin (Towson) actually be a them in like 2013 or something. Lost the next year though

[@Soccox]

Great work, research and presentation. Excellent stuff- your smooth 💯👍💯

[@dustychamberlain9739]

Thank you Fargo for letting my beloved Pokes have your head coach. We all Bohl-ieve in Craig and the Wyoming Cowboys here in God's Country.

[@loganyeske2010]

I’ve played in the Fargo dome twice ands it’s amazing

[@lionbomb8031]

Same dude.....

[@jq1683]

@@lionbomb8031 As a college player or in high school? I believe it sometimes these away FCS games look like High school. The FargoDome is the Show.

[@lionbomb8031]

Jared Quast where we live, our fifth and sixth grade team plays in the Fargo dome once a year. We lost in my fifth grade year and won in my sixth grade year.

[@jq1683]

@@lionbomb8031 Ok I see cool, im guessing the crowd was not quite as rowdy at those games :D

[@lionbomb8031]

Jared Quast except the parents can get a bit loud

[@KINGTUTT_]

Im glad you talked about their budget, It makes so much sense now why they arent planning on moving up. hopefully NDSU can increase budgets so they can join either the Big Ten or Big 12.

[@jq1683]

Indeed. years back I heard NDSUs program only made money once it got into the playoff and had playoff sales revenue. Lots of boosters up here that fund it to the point it stands above other FCS schools. Farm money.

[@dixbowman3452]

My cousin played CB at NDSU. Go Bison!

[@RespectthePoint]

That's awesome!

[@cliftontibbits6644]

Great video,on point and N D S is fine where there at for the moment,...going bigger isn't always better, it takes away from that speciality of being smaller and what it means coming or growing up in this atmosphere, the GLIMMERING lights of big city's aren't all that..and what's been built in NDS IS AWESOME IN EVERY WAY ,WHY BREAK WHATS NOT BROKEN AND COVER IT UP WITH NEW PAINT AND CALL IT FIXED LIKE NEW AGAIN...?

[@PawsInMawsOwO]

Awesome video

[@twiese6279]

I’m a bison fan and I want them to move up to like the mountain west but our stadium is to small

[@g4g3_k9]

we can’t because of money

[@jermoose1527]

I was fresh off the rip when I first watched this. When watching I thought the part about the 2018 Bison (starting around 2:14) sounded a bit familiar. Then I realized why, the guy is almost directly quoting the NDSU football Wikipedia page, WHICH I WROTE THAT PART OF. The dude was reading the Wikipedia paragraph that I wrote back to me in a KZbin video suggested to me. The experience of hearing the information that I wrote for my school being put out to tens of thousands of new people is insanely cool to me when I stoned and still is now, sometimes the internet is amazing :). Just to be clear I'm not knocking the dude for reading Wikipedia at all, he didn't watch every game and it's whatever to me.

[@chrisbg99]

Yeah the money just isn't there for a move up as well as travel. Any conference they could conceivably join in the near future would have to have extraordinarily long travel for everyone involved. The reason UND (the other North Dakota FCS school) moved to the Missouri Valley was because the travel costs for the Big Sky were just huge.

[@murda4980]

When are they making NDSU move up cause they're to dominate on the level that they're on

[@HeavyMetalMonkey]

They need to go from the Missouri Valley, the the Mountain West, to the Big Ten. Big Ten needs to drop Rutgers or Maryland and make room for these dudes.

[@thomasstrand9853]

The bison are a great football team they have great players every year it shows that how many championships they've won

[@VallanoMedia801]

They earned my respect when they faced Sam Houston State University in the 2011 national championship. I was really surprised by how well their fan base travel because they were over 1,000 miles from frisco texas

[@brodeyw.ballou7862]

Those uniforms are sick

[@ubon11]

I lived in North Dakota for awhile in the early 90's. I always wondered why such a good program was stuck in DII. Now that it is 25 years later, I'm wondering why such a good program is stuck in FCS. I know it will be more expensive as far as scholarships, but there is money in the state, right?

[@Jacob-wf8wz]

Will.I.Am11 yes but I think they prefer competing for national championships than bowl games

[@tidefanyankee2428]

Getting into an FBS conference isn't as easy as simply saying you want to. Different conferences have different criteria for joining. Educational programs are part of it and NDSU qualifies there.....stadium size/seating is another criteria and NDSU doesn't qualify in that regard. NDSU would need to build a new stadium and that's not going to happen anytime soon. A conference also has to invite a school to be a member after that school shows some interest (and qualifies). NDSU has even looked at moving up but it's just not feasible at the present time.

[@ubon11]

TideFan Yankee I agree that conference fit is a problem. Obviously, it would be G5. The MWC would be logical, but true, they don’t have a stadium for that. The MAC might be ok with a small stadium, but I don’t think they would all want the travel to Fargo. So that brings it back to the MWC and why not build a 40K indoor stadium? Surely there are some billionaires in Fargo and some tax money?

[@tidefanyankee2428]

@@ubon11 So throw away a perfectly good stadium which is close to the NDSU campus to build another one??? That doesn't make very good financial sense. Do you have any idea how much building a 40K stadium would cost??? The people in Fargo shelled out the money for the Fargodome already. It would essentially sit empty (the Fargodome) and unused..... Do you have any idea about the area? I do, I'm a NDSU/Bison alum....where would they put this new stadium? It's an honest question..... Bulldoze the Fargodome? Why? To satisfy what people outside the state want? Even if they did do that (bulldoze the Fargodome) it would take more than a year to build what you suggest. And just because NDSU might want to join a lesser conf doesn't mean they would be invited to. It's not as simple as raising your hand and saying "I want to join conf X" Not only do you have to have met the criteria, you have to be invited to join.

[@collegefootballtouche2633]

Being invited to the Big Ten eventually will be the case if the Bison moves up to FBS...but I don't see anyone in the B1G wanting any part of them after K-State, Iowa and Minnesota losing to them...not to mention them running off 8 of 9 of the last FCS titles. However stadium size does matter as well as lodging for traveling teams, media and entertainment. I doubt it would happen but the B1G would be best option if offers came in; they don't have enough money to be an independent school like Notre Dame. But if I were the B1G, I'd drop Rutgers and Maryland for a single North Dakota St squad!

[@hostiletoxictomdowneyburne6469]

I'd love to see these guys come to the sec, big 12, pac 12, or big 10 and see how well they would perform

[@justinalley3399]

they wouldnt stand a chance in those conference's outside of iowa theyve only beat mediocre fbs programs

[@SyriusStarMultimedia]

NDSU should be allowed in the top 4 playoffs.

[@jamesjones-bd8lf]

As an SHSU fan. We started their dynasty. Their 1st Chip was stopping our undefeated season. Still have nightmares....

[@Soccox]

I’m a fan now

[@JCstrangerH616]

I'm a FSU fan but I really enjoy watching NDSU games and have so much respect for their program. I believe they could compete in the FBS and in time, once they've transitioned, will be able to compete with the top FBS programs. One major issue, that you mentioned, is if the move to the FBS is even desired bad enough to make that jump up without an offer from one of the power conferences? Which is probably not, however, if one of the other conferences could convince NDSU to join them I believe it is the AAC but it would take quite a bit of convincing from the AAC particularly since NDSU would be at a regional disadvantage from the rest of the conference.

[@jq1683]

have you seen the NDSU vs Kansas st game? if not check that out or at least watch the 4th quarter!

[@qbm3alt210]

I LIVE IN FARGO ND AND BISON IS VERYYYYYYYY GOOD

[@ShadowWizard123]

They just won another championship. Looked really dominant. Great football program.

[@braydenolson2096]

Finally Fargo gets some respect

[@firefox8505]

I think you could make the argument for a Division 2 school like Minnesota State-Mankato (tanked 90th across all divisions last year, ahead of schools like Kansas, San Jose St. and Colorado St) or West Florida.

[@houthoofd13]

Makes me miss my Grand Valley teams from 2000-2010

[@mattdukes52]

i love ndsu because of one man JABRIL COX GEAUX FRICKEN TIGERS THANK YOU NDSU

[@mabster45]

Take care of him! I took a basketball class with him and he is a freak athlete. Should fit in well with LSU

[@UpNorsk]

I remember watching him his freshman year. He started out on special teams and was in on almost every tackle, I remember thinking this dudes gonna be special. By the end of the year he was heavy in the rotation at LB. Not even mad he went to LSU, hard to get recognized by NFL on defense in the FCS , look forward to watching him teae it up for the Tigers.

[@mattdukes52]

@@UpNorsk im excited to ive been watching tons of tape we will take care of him

[@mattdukes52]

@@mabster45 gosh im pumped we will take great care of him

[@mattdukes52]

you guys have a great program in fargo hopefully cox will get you guys some much deserved notoriety

[@romeda5156]

They need need to move up at this point, what left do they have to prove in 1AA? I’m sure the mountain west or maybe even the big Ten would love to have them.

[@halverdha1]

Yes sir it’s true videos a while ago in a couple more this year. It’s OK could be doing better but not going to the championship that’s OK. It’s a good time to talk that’s definitely OK good for the fans calm down.

[@jqthebest1]

be can enter the draft after this season, but the game against oregon gonna be huge for him and the program. would love to see them come to orlando and play UCF, that game would be crazy 😂

[@brian2440]

UCF has to worry more about their home and home series with Boise State

[@stantaylor3350]

I want to see NDSU play Marshall from Huntington WV because both of their mascots are the same & they also go by The Thundering Herd. They are also FBS they were D1 FCS & moved up to FBS at about the time NDSU moved up to FCS otherwise they would have probably met by now in a play off game or national title game. Marshall won the FCS Championship game in 1994 & again in 1996. There were runner up in 1995. I met a couple 11 yrs ago from Huntington & John's man cave was all decked out in Bison stuff. That how I found this out. He was a Marshall alum. I looked up their D1 FCS history.

[@bashirel5890]

I would love to see the Bison play teams like the Naval Academy and Appalachian State. That would be some very competitive football.

[@jonbeck5546]

They faced and beat the golden gophers, Iowa, Iowa state, Kansas st, Colorado state. All since 2011. They have had a hard time scheduling fbs schools since they started winning.

[@jonbeck5546]

& Kansas. Iowa was ranked 11 in the nation when ndsu beat Iowa.

[@sickocell]

Join the Big XII then upgrade the stadium capacity. I believe NDSU can be a top 25 regular in the FBS

[@johnforjustice2350]

I’m from North Dakota unfortunately I went to UND one of the longest rivalry in football 120 years. The Nickel trophy. NDSU has not played UND that often since going D1-AA. But when they do they dominate. UND is now a dominant hockey school.

[@jq1683]

Used to be a rivalry, now it's just a courtesy game. UND is doing pretty well tho since coming to FCS...

[@shawnerickstad7927]

North Dakota State would be a top 20 team each year if in FBS and continually beats FBS teams in top 20 including top teams in FCS

[@caseygardner4406]

Red HawK13 they do not meet all requirements. The fargodome is not big enough.

[@tidefanyankee2428]

@Red HawK13 What you wrote isn't true. Joining an FBS conference isn't as simple as simply raising your hand and saying "OH, OH pick me!!!". There are certain criteria that have to be met, to include an invitation to join said conference. Casey Gardner is absolutely correct.....NDSU doesn't fit the seating requirements for most, if not power 5 conferences. NDSU does meet the academic requirements with PhD programs, and Masters programs etc.... If you think all a school has to do is submit an application, you don't know much.

[@tidefanyankee2428]

@Red HawK13 Liberty if I'm not mistaken is an independent in the FBS....they are not a member of a conference. Bit of a difference there. No, they (the NDSU Bison) won't "pass easily". NDSU would want to be a member of a conference, not be an independent. They wouldn't make a Power 5 conference membership. They might be able to make one of the lesser conferences, but what would be he point? To satisfy you, so your Red Hawks would have a chance in the Missouri Valley conf???? LOL!!!! The money wouldn't be better, the exposure wouldn't be better...so why do it then??? The folks at NDSU have crunched the numbers and moving up wouldn't make sense. Do you actually believe you know more about this and the Bison program than people in it???? Spare me....

[@caseygardner4406]

Red HawK13 you’re right. The last timer I heard was that they would me to remodel the dome to fit a larger capacity but I could be wrong there. I know it wouldn’t be easy to move up but personally I don’t know if it’s the right move. They would go from competing and winning national championships in FCS to never being in the conversation of one in FBS. Not to mention the recruits they would lose because of that fact. On paper it’s easy to say NDSU should be playing G5 football in the MWC or MAC, but logically speaking they are dominate for a reason and their draft record speaks for itself because of that.

[@khure711]

You’re insane if you think NDSU is going to be a top 20 team in the FBS. They stay in the FCS because they know if they move up their program would go to shit. You think teams like Alabama, Georgia or Clemson are going to lose to North Dakota lol they wouldn’t even stand a chance at a full season of legit competition. It’s pretty easy to prepare for 1 actual game the entire year then you spend the rest of the year against FCS schools who fill have the rosters with walk ons.

[@amyrietveld3017]

NDSU has a phenomenal program. However, I think SDSU also has a great program and is one of the few that can compete with NDSU. It's also a really fun rivalry that doesn't get a lot of attention outside the midwest.

[@jq1683]

Defintely. SDSU has been really good, and has had some tough losses to NDSU in playoffs. I think a year or two SDSU matches up best and likely 2nd best team in FCS.

[@TonyPerez816]

This program is fantastic on their level. I would love to see them in the Big 10. I think they could definitely hang and quickly become a bowl team. Most FBS conferences have at least half garbage teams. I'm sure NDSU would have no trouble with Purdue, Maryland, Rutgers, Illinois a Indiana, etc. I think they would have to consider whether they want to be a perennial power, or simply a "bowl team". I think they could become a powerhouse, but who can say for sure? Others have dominated in the lower division and then faded into obscurity after moving to the next level. If they moved up, and went through a few tough years, finishing sub .500, them going on to a few years of minor bowl games, would the crowds still be there? Easy to just say "yes", but there are so many examples of the opposite happening. "Great" lower division teams with crazy win/loss records, huge game day experiences, and upsets over major teams, who become nobodies at the next level. Again, i would love to see ndsu move, but it could be tougher than people think. Even with a handful of impressive wins over the years.

[@jq1683]

Pretty spot on Tony. Even if moving is a possibility, the college has a tradition of playing for and winning national championships before this big run. It would be a difficult change to "look forward" to bowl games at a neutral site , especially now in the FBS these bowl games are losing more clout the ever. Even going undefeated in non power 5 is not gonna get you in the final 4 most every year.... Sure the competition would be better, but the fans really look forward to the multiple playoff games, it's a great atmosphere and lots of fun

[@justinalley3399]

ndsu would turn into umass if they left the fcs

[@justinalley3399]

ndsu just barely beat a trash kansas team once

[@jq1683]

​@@justinalley3399 true, but they won. Defense crushed them like we crush other fbs teams

[@sammyrhoads265]

I feel like a college football team that's been underrated but overachieving would have to be University of Cincinnati. For one, they have to live in the same state as OSU which means that they're already gonna be overshadowed by fans of the buckeye faithful and they're also in a non-power five conference. But the thing that makes them overachieving is that they consistently take out most power 5 teams they've played against in the last 2 or 3 years, like when they punt kicked UCLA back to California. I feel like if given the opportunity, Cinci would move up to a power 5 conference like the ACC, or even Big-12. Maybe not the big-10 though with the powerhouses of OSU, Penn State, and Michigan, but still, they could very well make it in a bigger conference but are constantly overshadowed by the big team in Columbus

[@brian2440]

I mean they literally used to be and won conference championships in a Power conference so is that really surprising? People forget there are 5 teams in the AAC that used to play in Big East... They also don’t realize that UH and SMU used to play in the SWC, which predated the B12 for 50 years and included UT, Texas A&M, Baylor, Arkansas, TTU, TCU, and Rice. And UH and SMU were consistently good in this conference.

[@mattwilliams290]

🤘🏾 Go Bison

[@cedeluca2121]

I believe that they should slowly start positioning themselves for a move up to the FBS. I believe they could start out getting an invitation from the MAC, spend 4/5 years beating up on all those teams, then hopefully get an invitation to join the Big 10 one day. Rivalries for North Dakota State against Wisconsin, Michigan, Michigan St, and Minnesota, and Ohio State would be good ones because of their close proximity to each other geographically speaking.

[@douglasvines1221]

I wish we would schedule this team just to prove a point

[@drewnayr1188]

Oregon didn't schedule this team to have a little warm up before tOSU. Cristobal wants to bloody his team with a tough but reasonable challenge. We could schedule Portland State every year if we wanted a cupcake.

[@hansgordy]

It's actually 17 national championships from 1964 to now. A championship every 3.5 years. Three 2nd place finishes. Many, many other playoff runs.

[@BrayBray-jl8xi]

The only conference close to them that they could keep a winning record in is the mountain west, so I could see why they wouldn’t want to move up. (not saying that they couldn’t in the big ten just that they would keep consistently winning at the rate they are at)

[@BrayBray-jl8xi]

Derek Johansen or something yeah that’s basically what I said, they would be able to win at the same rate they are currently in the MW, the only G5 conference close

[@brian2440]

Derek Johansen or something Stats aren’t on your side against Boise State. Just in the general scheme of college football that program is ludicrous... It’s one thing to be dominant and play at a high level as a G5, but then there’s Boise whose 219-43 in the last 20 years, which is tied #1 overall in FBS, including btw a 133-12 home record which is #1 in the country. Yes the program has regressed, but then again it’s regressed from statistically the best G5 team to ever play the game.

[@Lonzo5x]

Hope I can go to the first game this year go bison all day and Trey lance Carolina Panthers 2021

[@jeremygilbert7989]

Heh, they think the Fargo Dome gets noisy, wait 'till they enter the House of Loud! In all seriousness though, I've been saying all year this game is gonna be one of the biggest hurdles for my Ducks this year, second, or maybe even tied, with our game against Ohio St. the very next week. The Bison are gonna have a hell of a time overcoming our D but we're in a major rebuilding period on offense so I anticipate a pretty low scoring defensive battle. In the end though, there's a reason the Ducks went from a 7-6 season with a Vegas Bowl loss to PAC-12 and Rose Bowl champions in just 2 years. Cristobal is an insanely good recruiter and now that we've gotten rid of Arroyo's predictable offence I see us going nowhere but up.

[@johnnyoxbow]

For anyone wondering it’s cause NDSU would need 2 more sports to move up to the FBS and they just don’t have the money for it due to them being a small school

[@dadsonworldwide3238]

It's no other fbs college in the state. Look at it's geographic recruiting range. Maybe so west coast school go in to recruit but it's not really like the network others compete with. Gotta cover a lot of ground there to find few player

[@jq1683]

True. But first off they are not FBS, and 2nd off thereis UND who is also FCS.

[@kirbyawesome5077]

I think it's time for North Dakota State to move up to the FBS level because they have shown they can compete at the next level. Also, I think North Dakota State isn't being challenged. For example, as you said in your video, North Dakota State has been dominating every opponent, and I think if they moved up to the FBS, then they would have more challenging opponents.

[@dominicfaison5889]

NC A&T State University should be considered one of the most underrated FCS teams, it’s even underrated in the FCS. We’ve managed to beat 3/4 of the last 4 FBS teams we’ve played. Context: One of those FBS teams we beat was East Carolina University, as bad as ECU was that year they still beat Carolina later in the year

[@samtyrrel5512]

A lot of his success can also be attributed to his O-line. He has 4 all Americans going into this season

[@mattott4273]

My two cents.... NDSU is good enough to play at the next level. What they do not have is a large tv market or large pool of financial donors. Even if everyone in the 48th most populous state was on board that's still tiny in the scale of College football. They will be stuck in this championship cycle until either they find massive new revenue streams or ND's population doubles or they get kicked out of fcs for hoarding all the trophies. The best case scenario would be if NDSU's level of play increases the level everyone else in the fcs is playing at too. Iron sharpens iron. Definitely seen it in sdsu, uni and jmu. Hopefully it spreads.

[@bamaboyz8978]

Imagine if North Dakota State moves up to D1 FBS, that’d be dope, just imagine an Alabama vs North Dakota State National Championship

[@qbm3alt210]

NDSU OPPPPPP

[@FTTB-FaithfultotheBay25]

Honestly I would really like NDSU to schedule Alabama and Clemson, even if those games were just exhibition games Or UCF lol

[@syckmusyck6593]

They stand no chance

[@trentlarson7315]

NDSU has tried. It’s was a hard no, they won’t risk a loss.

[@Aztec218]

Go Bison! 🤘

[@tvck5378]

I get all the FBS fans all saying “can he put up those numbers” we would not know for sure but he is elevated in the FCS I think if we took 2/3 of those numbers that would be his stats.

[@madc2004]

Not to mention that they are the College Football National Champions according to the NCAA. This is because FBS doesn't have an NCAA sanctioned National Championship and the College Football Playoffs are independently organized

[@himothyshim]

One game we made the other team call a timeout it was so loud

[@thomasryan5736]

I only heard of one winning streak for NDSU of 37 games. Oklahoma won 47 straight in the late 40s early 50s. Notre Dame ended the streak at Oklahoma I believe.

[@brady9102]

I have been to so many Bison games and every time I say they need to move to the FBS

[@Lucas-pv2wn]

Just go fbs D1 already! It’s starting to look like a Billy Madison dodgeball match up there.

[@coachshawnkent397]

I would love to see them play against Jackson State University .

[@paidtourist6563]

NDSU would win by 30

[@Dmunze9]

All time Miami is slept on

[@Williamspitt01]

Ik it might be a long shot but let em come get some of this SEC action

[@brian2440]

The SEC never plays out of the south so it’s unlikely

[@justinklinck6575]

In a Division between 1 and 2. It's like Division 1.5... lol get a dynasty in FBS like that and I'll be impressed.

[@marksornsin2866]

Nice piece. But missing missing another key reason they are not ready to go up a level: stadium size. They would be required to update their home field to accommodate at least 25,000 fans. That is no easy task. It would have to be an indoor stadium and the expense is huge. The Fargodome can’t easily be upgraded accommodate such an increase. The NDSU fan base and Fargo area can support the 19,000 seat stadium and the budget of a top tier FCS team. But they don’t have the support to pay for a brand new stadium. Not right now anyway. Maybe after the population grows some more and IF they keep up their winning ways. Having said all of that I think are good enough now to be dominant in the non-power 5 conferences.

[@jammin5100]

They dont meet the requirements to move up into power 5. They dont wanna go to a GO5 and compete for just a conference champ. Even if they did compete in a p5, they’ll have winning seasons. But give them a few years in any conference they’ll fit in and they’ll pull in 4 star recruits and 5 star recruits. And then the dynasty will be on track once more but with better talent. But a test to see if they can hang is if they beat oregon. Its predicted oregons defense would be great this year. And they rule the pac 12 and if NDSU beats oregon. They can rule the pac 12

[@brian2440]

They would face the same issues Boise State faces in joining the Pac12 - meeting research and market requirements aka things that have nothing to do with actual football skill. Boise State literally has better record against the Pac12 and multiple wins over Pac champions, yet is “unqualified” to join the conference. They’ve been rejected four times.

[@sammy2840]

Tim Brewster took the MN Gophers up to ND. Before leaving he said “We are going to play the little guys in green”... NDState kicked his ass! Lol

[@Adrian-mm6ix]

Mount Union anyone?

[@aust6351]

GO BISION!!!!!! 🤘

[@robertridley9279]

It doesn't hurt that schools like Appalachian State, Marshall, UMass, Western Kentucky, Georgia Southern, and Coastal Carolina all left for the FBS, leaving NDSU with no real competition.

[@ryanr9299]

They should go up to the mountain west conference

[@moorebounce]

They need to build better and larger facilities before trying to make the jump. If they don't do that they might as well stay put

[@neveahsugden210]

Big Ten or Mountain West for these guys they deserve to move up.

[@parklamb88]

I know this might sound crazy but I think the school could contend in the big ten because Iowa that one year was really good

[@bryanlutz7950]

I'm sorry to tell you this man but you guys barley beat Iowa that year and Iowa is not a good team. If you were to move up to the FBS in the Big Ten you'd most likely go 6-6 every year. Yes they have beat all the FBS teams they've played but those teams are a joke... Go into Ohio State and tell me how that game goes. I'd say ND state is about the same level as FAU and Ohio State dropped 70 on them.

[@bryanlutz7950]

Also they've had 5 people drafted in the last 5 years. Ohio State had what 5 people drafted in the first round just this year.. If that doesn't tell you the difference in skill idk what will.

[@leonardcruz924]

Nah that would not be the move if they did they would have to stay out of the east and be ok with watching the big ten championship game on tv

[@danielminton9056]

Iowa was a 5 loss team the year NDSU played them, with embarrassing losses to Penn State, Northwestern, Florida, Wisconsin, NDSU and close wins over Rutgers 14-7, Minnesota when Minnesota was bad 14-10 and Purdue 34-27. That Iowa team was good in 2015 but not so good in 2016 so in all honesty NDSU has never beat a FBS team that has had a legit ranking at the end of the Season. Now Appalachia State is a different story they won the national Championship year after year like NDSU and looked unbeatable at that level and also beat highly ranked power 5 teams and moved up to a bigger conference and are still winning 10 to 11 games a year. What App State has done is more impressive than NDSU, if NDSU wants to change my mind move up to the Mountain West and still be a 10 or more win team and beat a annual top power 5 team like Oklahoma, Georgia, Alabama, Clemson like Boise state and Appalachia State have been able to do. Not just hang your proof you're a power 5 contender on beating a 7 win Iowa team.

[@justinalley3399]

@@danielminton9056 not just that ndsu almost lost to a trash 3-9 kansas team once and almost lost to wyoming a couple years ago