North Macedonia during World War II (1941 - 1944)

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History Hustle

History Hustle

Күн бұрын

What about North Macedonia during WW2? The region of what is today North Macedonia was part of the Kingdom of Yugoslavia. After the Axis invasion of Yugoslavia this kingdom was partitioned by the Axis Powers. A small part in the west went to the Italians. The largest part came under Bulgarian administration. The Bulgarian occupation of Vardar Macedonia ended in 1944 when the country switched sides. The Germans now installed a puppet government named: Independent Macedonia. Eventually, the Macedonian partisans liberated the country.
History Hustle presents: North Macedonia during World War II (1941 - 1944).
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SOURCES
- War and Revolution in Yugoslavia, 1941-1945. Occupation and Collaboration (Jozo Tomasevich).
- Bulgaria during the Second World War (Marshall Lee Miller).
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• Skopje 1943
Skopje 1943
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@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Axis invasion of Yugoslavia: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hni6g5yEbr5nrMk Some of the photos were provided by: instagram.com/viox.colorized
@marcoskehl
@marcoskehl 2 жыл бұрын
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
@@marcoskehl 👍
@mydogsbutler
@mydogsbutler 2 жыл бұрын
history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1945v08/d258
@Soboba.Fett69
@Soboba.Fett69 2 жыл бұрын
In the thumbnail, the soldier on the right looks like officer doofy.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
@@Soboba.Fett69 lol
@surinfarmwest6645
@surinfarmwest6645 2 жыл бұрын
Stefan, it's the Balkans, it's going to be complicated!
@mammuchan8923
@mammuchan8923 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing 🤨. But that is what makes it so fascinating 😎
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
👍
@mydogsbutler
@mydogsbutler 2 жыл бұрын
As opposed to western Europe that there is no complexity and has a centuries old tradition of peaceful coexistence and respect for human rights. In other news... the breakaway region of western Germany decided to rename itself Republic of Holland, themselves ethnic Hollanders, and their language the Hollander language. Along with claimed Netherlands historical figures as their own, they also claim citizens of the Netherlands are persecuting the ethnic Hollanders in the "divided" and "occupied' part of Holland. I'm sure the Netherlands would rush to recognize "ethnic Hollanders" behaving in such a bizarre and dangerous way. It's "human rights" apparently.
@mydogsbutler
@mydogsbutler 2 жыл бұрын
Not all of the history of the region is that complicated. Which academic claims anti=hellenic slavs are not slavs but founders of the Hellenistic period as half the former Yugoslavians now claim? Anyone that claims that...an academic fraud with a political agenda.
@dacicus090
@dacicus090 4 ай бұрын
@@mydogsbutler It's the same thing as the fake romanian vs moldavian, vlach(timoc-morava, vidin, belene, rahova, svistov, tutrakan...) identity. Do you see the resemblance?
@transrightsarehumanrights7156
@transrightsarehumanrights7156 6 ай бұрын
Woah! I was completely unaware you made a video about my country, that is so cool! Thank you so much! Just one issue I noticed in the video: we identify as Macedonians and have identified as such even back then, not slavo-macedonians, hope this helps! :D
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for your reply. And if I said Macedonians whole Greece would attack me in the comments. Half of Greece did now anyway so yeah, guess I can never do it right.
@transrightsarehumanrights7156
@transrightsarehumanrights7156 6 ай бұрын
@@HistoryHustle Unfortunately that's just how it is sometimes, a greek nationalist can never be satisfied no matter what. Sometimes you just gotta bite the bullet I suppose, regardless, very good video!
@HeroManNick132
@HeroManNick132 4 ай бұрын
@@transrightsarehumanrights7156 Ти си българка!
@tatjanavelkova5814
@tatjanavelkova5814 4 ай бұрын
@@HeroManNick132 TATJANA MAKEDONKA ! ! glupak .
@tatjanavelkova5814
@tatjanavelkova5814 4 ай бұрын
@@HeroManNick132 I TATJANA AM MACEDONIAN ! ! you... ?
@tommygy8425
@tommygy8425 2 жыл бұрын
You see, these are the countries you would expect a ww2 documentary about and these are the documentaries that we lack so badly i love these documentaries about such countries soo much and these are the ones you make and this is why i LOVE this channel. You gotta be one of the most underrated youtube hiistorians.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome. In a few weeks I will cover Kosovo in WW2.
@progamerbufovi
@progamerbufovi 2 жыл бұрын
@@HistoryHustle one correction though imro was a macedonian organization but after the ilinden uprising it split into 2 factions left wing(pro macedonian independence) and right wing (pro bulgarian) mihailov was a bulgarophile on the right wing
@ДејанДенковски
@ДејанДенковски 3 ай бұрын
This channel did not explain correctly about Macedonia, there are a lot of lies.
@t.jjohnson6317
@t.jjohnson6317 2 жыл бұрын
Thank-you for another great vid.God bless
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
👍👍👍
@jordan9339
@jordan9339 Жыл бұрын
My grand grandfather is from Stip. He fled to Bulgaria because of Serbs after the Balkan wars and WWI. According to him, his family and almost everyone from his neighbors (there were Vlachs and Albanians also) were considering themselves Bulgarian at that time. How come that these people only 20 years later needed someone to persuade them that they are Bulgarian, I don't know. I even have cousins there from my grand grandfather Bulgarian family from Stip. Now my cousins are Macedonians, and we are Bulgarian. My other grand grandfather is from Aegean Macedonia, Drama Region. All of the population of their village were forced to leave for Bulgaria and it doesn't exist now because of that. Often they were stripped of all their money, gold and valuables at the border. Macedonians from Aegean Macedonia were expelled to Bulgaria, not to Vardar Macedonia for some reason. Descendants of the refugees from Aegean and Vardar Macedonia today are more than all of the population of North Macedonia. There is also Pirin Macedonia, part of Macedonia is in Bulgaria. None of those people consider Macedonians different than Bulgarians. There were communists in Vardar Macedonia during that time that fought Bulgarian Army. There were also communists in Bulgaria that blew up a church killing over 200 people in 1925 and the authorities dealt with them accordingly - as in Bulgaria, as in Vardar Macedonia. There were chetniks, Serbian loyalist also that fought Bulgarian Army. That's the reason Bulgarian officials weren't the best sometimes. They weren't against communists, against chetniks, and yes, sometimes against innocent people.
@BudgetGainsByJJ
@BudgetGainsByJJ Жыл бұрын
Very interesting comment. I’m Macedonian from Bitola (not there anymore) and my great grandfather fought with the Bulgarian army during WWll and my other grandfather fought with the partisans. Interesting dichotomy, but it explains well just from this story that a “Macedonian” independence or ethnic group never truely existed but a regional one is more or less “fitting”.
@mottom2657
@mottom2657 6 ай бұрын
@@BudgetGainsByJJ Yeah, there did exist a regional Macedonian identity that was not ethnic.
@tatjanavelkova5814
@tatjanavelkova5814 4 ай бұрын
MACEDONIAN IDENTITY 25 CENTURIES from KING FILIP ! ! !
@maxmagnus777
@maxmagnus777 2 ай бұрын
Serbs in Russia became Russians or Ukrainians in 2 generations. People change their perceived nationality based on many factors. One of those is assimilation. Macedonians have this genetic issue. They are mostly Serbs but also Bulgarians and Greek (11%). It is a mixture of people. Then again Greeks have 30% of Slavic blood in them.
@orion5813
@orion5813 11 күн бұрын
Real bulgarians are turkic. There is no Bulgarian nationality. It was created by Russia. bulgarians are really Thracians or Aegean and Pirin Macedonians
@tirionfordring8737
@tirionfordring8737 2 жыл бұрын
What... I was LITERALLY checking your channel for any videos on Macedonia during WW2 like half an hour ago. When I got the notification for this video my jaw dropped 😂
@tirionfordring8737
@tirionfordring8737 2 жыл бұрын
Now that I watched it, I want to say that despite some simplifications (something that is unavoidable in these short videos) the video is amazing! However, I must note that "North Macedonians" refers to all the citizens of the country that is now named North Macedonia - Albanians, Serbs and others included. Macedonians are a separate ethnic group and it is the group to which you're referring in the video. I know that you are trying to keep things balanced and not to offend anyone, but still it has to be noted. Especially because you are in Skopje now, you wouldn't want to call people there "North Macedonians" and get yourself in troubles 😬
@theodorossarafis7370
@theodorossarafis7370 2 жыл бұрын
They are bulgarians and not a different nation. Dna has given the answer long time ago
@tirionfordring8737
@tirionfordring8737 2 жыл бұрын
@@theodorossarafis7370 DNA is exactly what denies your thesis.
@theodorossarafis7370
@theodorossarafis7370 2 жыл бұрын
@@tirionfordring8737 really?? Enlighten me since 87% of the slav living there have bulgarian dna. Also all the neighboring coutries recognize them as bulgarians and not as a different nation. Do not forget that in 1947 they became a nation. Before that in ottoman yugoslavian and german official papers they were bulgarians
@tirionfordring8737
@tirionfordring8737 2 жыл бұрын
@@theodorossarafis7370 I won't even bother responding to this abomination of words and thoughts that you put together, but it's nice that you decided to unleash your autism so others can see.
@aris9560
@aris9560 2 жыл бұрын
Super nice video. Balkan countries fight eachother yet only outsiders are winning from this fight. Imagine a world where the balkans would unlock and unleash their dynamism in the world….
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your reply.
@serdradion4010
@serdradion4010 2 жыл бұрын
Tito's job to particulate and antagonize the both old and his formed nations of the Balkans. Quiet long prepared region of disputes lock down.
@serdradion4010
@serdradion4010 2 жыл бұрын
They are already doing that in advanced countries on individual basis, as employees of big companies. You are not the only smart one.
@aris9560
@aris9560 2 жыл бұрын
@@serdradion4010 yeah, individually we're all smart, and like each other 1-1. The challenge is to work together in very large numbers. Of course the problem touches everyone yet the solution space is primarily politics.
@МиркоБогоевски
@МиркоБогоевски 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Stefan for this video
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
👍👍👍
@Thiago.Acquati
@Thiago.Acquati 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice video, Thanks for covering it on location.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
👍👍👍
@leonashirkova7433
@leonashirkova7433 4 ай бұрын
Just a little note: more of today Macedonia's people are of slavic descent, but greek in this context is the wrong word to use , because they never were of such descent. Greek is not the same as Helenic, and that term when it comes to with what history macedonians identity (identified) is a bit complex. Macedonians were never of greek descent. The Macedonian nation dates back to ancient times.
@БориславВълков-м7р
@БориславВълков-м7р 2 жыл бұрын
One correction: around 6 000 jews were expulsed from Bulgarian authorities while the rest 1 000 were expulsed from the Italian authorities. It's interesting to tell that Macedonians have the lowest death toll of people as a percentage In the Balkans during WWII.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
The number I read was above 7,000 but thanks for sharing.
@БориславВълков-м7р
@БориславВълков-м7р 2 жыл бұрын
@@HistoryHustle yes, but most of the death cassulties were after Bulgaria switch sides. More macedonians died In the communists purges(bloody christmas 1945) than Bulgarian massacre. It's not fair Bulgaria to take responsibility for crimes We didn't do.
@mydogsbutler
@mydogsbutler 2 жыл бұрын
Most of what you claim as "Macedonian" today.. self-identified as ethnic Bulgarian "Macedonians" during WW2. The communists brutally oppressed ethnic Bulgarian identity if Vardar after then renamed It "macedonian".
@БориславВълков-м7р
@БориславВълков-м7р 2 жыл бұрын
@Vrvodec so when you are conquering it's "incorporating" but when Bulgaria "incorporates" it's a bloody unlawful conquest? BTW the soldier's mutiny In 1944 and the bloody christmas of 1945 are separate events as the later is against civilians. The Bulgarian army at the time was above 100k In Macedonia alone and had liberated Skopje from the germans. Only Macedonians believe they've liberated thermselves.
@БориславВълков-м7р
@БориславВълков-м7р 2 жыл бұрын
@Vrvodec btw the macedonian army was about 20k not 80k and it did not reached Danube but was diverted to fight Kosovo. 3rd Ukraine's army which the 100k Bulgarian troops was assign as aid were the liberaters of Yugoslavia.
@mohammedsaysrashid3587
@mohammedsaysrashid3587 2 жыл бұрын
Allot Thanks (Sir Stefan) for sharing this informative Video about this Complicated Political-Militia -Military matter of North Macedonia ...I appreciate your Hard work Thanks
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Many thanks Mohammed.
@Kevc00
@Kevc00 2 жыл бұрын
Are you going to do a video on collaboration in North Macedonia? I had read that as Bulgarian citizens Macedonians served in the Bulgarian army. I read that as much as 60% of some Bulgarian units in Macedonia were Macedonian soldiers. Apparently after Bulgaria switched sides these Macedonians were transferred to the partisans.
@theodorossarafis7370
@theodorossarafis7370 2 жыл бұрын
It is true. And after ww2 they entered the greek communist party and started the civil unrest from 1946 to 1949. At the end of the war 60% of the communist army were slovomacedonians
@serdradion4010
@serdradion4010 2 жыл бұрын
For that struggle and the achievements they were rewarded with it's own federal Republic and separate nation. They didn't fought for nothing. Everything was arranged on the 2nd AVNOJ conference in Jajce, Nov 29 1943, where the new nations were proclaimed. They were legalized in the Constitution of FNRJ JAN 31 1946. They were rewarded for the heroic fight against the Serbian domination.
@theodorossarafis7370
@theodorossarafis7370 2 жыл бұрын
@@serdradion4010 right sure. In your own history that nobody can verify. Right. Prior to 1947 you did exist. You were bulgarians and you never fought
@serdradion4010
@serdradion4010 2 жыл бұрын
@@theodorossarafis7370 Sorry, those hard battles are the hard fact.
@theodorossarafis7370
@theodorossarafis7370 2 жыл бұрын
@@serdradion4010 give some battles because the only battles you fought were against the albanians in 2001.
@stefanijan8
@stefanijan8 2 жыл бұрын
Such a good video 👍
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍
@hughbondurant2730
@hughbondurant2730 2 жыл бұрын
You do good history.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@hash-CCFF00
@hash-CCFF00 2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@hughbondurant2730
@hughbondurant2730 2 жыл бұрын
I like the way Dutch does his delivery on what amounts to obscure Military History.
@detelinadzhibova9932
@detelinadzhibova9932 Жыл бұрын
Не е вярна историята,която е разказана в това видео.Човекът,който е направил видеото,не е свършил добра работа.
@zackkilgore528
@zackkilgore528 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t say it as nearly as often as I should but your channel is phenomenal
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Great to read. Many thanks.
@sirdarklust
@sirdarklust 2 жыл бұрын
This is an obscure topic deserving attention. Thanks and take ding dong care.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks 🔔👍
@SmilJan5
@SmilJan5 2 жыл бұрын
"Our people is like a couch grass and not destroyed by any army. But you can scratch it as much as you want, root it, pluck it, it still doesn't die. Just touch the ground a little, and it will catch again, revive, grow. Nothing destroys that grass.'' - Pirej Petre M. Andreevski Macedonia has never in its history been unified and powerful enough to stand up straight shoulder to shoulder against greece, serbia, ottoman empire, bulgaria. Everyone have tried to put Macedonia in submission and they all failed. That is why they all now bully Macedonia and cannot accept the fact that our nation stood the centuries, stood the oppression and will further stand it!
@sasho888prm
@sasho888prm 2 жыл бұрын
What are you talking about? The region was a unified part of Bulgaria for centuries before the Ottoman invasion in the late 1300's. That's why you guys keep talking about tsar Samuil, you're just mortified to admit he was one of the many tsars of the Bulgarian empire. You keep sticking to this agenda that those 1 million or so Slavs in the North Macedonia region have absolutely no ties to any of its neighbours. It's getting ridiculous, I mean how long will you live a lie? It's like saying that the Kosovars are a separate ancient race that have no relation to their neighbours.
@SmilJan5
@SmilJan5 2 жыл бұрын
@@sasho888prm Bulgaria did horrors to the Macedonian people, don't tell me your government man slaughtered your own people! Bulgaria never ruled Macedonia nor did Macedonians ever felt like Bulgarians. You'll never ever erase the collective memory of a single nation! Our grandparents and ancestors taught us well and no oppression or act of aggression will ever stand the test of time, only strengthen our nation. That is what hurts you the most. The fact that you never ruled Macedonia nor will you! ps Kosovars are openly proclaiming as Albanians. You had 3,504 Bulgarians in the Macedonian census in 2021 😂 You're not so good at taking care of your former bulgarian empire... Tito really did a good job brainwashing 2 million people into thinking they are not bulgarians 😂
@mydogsbutler
@mydogsbutler 2 жыл бұрын
Put your pitty propaganda where the sun don't shine. A. The former Yugoslavia is not "Macedonia". Extreme nationalists in Skopje, and your foreign apologists, have incompetented confused ancient place names with modern. Ancient Macedonia of Alexander fame... 100 percent in today's Greece. Skopje was located in the ancient Kingdom of Paeonia during the Philiip (who conquered it). B. you left out the "minor" part that most of you used to self-identify as Bulgarian "Macedonians" prior to Yugoslav communists. C. And what's with all the lying by trying to link yourselves to ancient Greeks Macedonians and using that to promote what fanatics in your country and diaspora frame as 'United Macedonia"... which they claim includes 1/4 of Greece. Manipulating human rights lingo for extreme nationalist agendas is lame. Fantics in Skopje, and those that supported you, lost the moral and historical argument on this issue the second they tried to whitewash your switch of identity into ancient Macedonians and irredentism.
@SmilJan5
@SmilJan5 2 жыл бұрын
@@mydogsbutler So much text saying so little poor guy. It hurts you boy and it’s okay that it hurts. It should hurt ;) United Macedonia 🇲🇰🇲🇰🇲🇰
@77belts
@77belts 2 жыл бұрын
Macedonians didn't exist before 1944. U are Bulgarians. U are hated by your neighbors because u start these problems by creating false narratives.
@GoogleAccount-tf6lh
@GoogleAccount-tf6lh 2 жыл бұрын
Keeep up the good work
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
👍
@milenpetrov2217
@milenpetrov2217 2 жыл бұрын
The thumbnail shows Major Lubomir Noev (with the beard), commander of the Bulgarian Airborne Battalion, KIA in April 1945 fighting against Germany.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing.
@frankmorris2603
@frankmorris2603 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. Sorta complicated journey for Macedonia through history. More on this would be appreciated thanks. 👍
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@papertoyss
@papertoyss 2 жыл бұрын
It is "North Macedonia" aka Slavomacedonia it did not existed during WW2 and until 1944; until then none of its predecessors did it used the term "Macedonia". In 1944 the Yugoslav communists created within the Yugoslav federation the first predecessor of nowadays "North Macedonia" to use the term "Macedonia", the "Peoples Repiblic of Macedonia", which has been recognized only by communist Countries under control of the infamous "Comintern" (Communist International Moscow), the creation of which previously had approved. Prior to this the region was being called by the Slavic "Vardar Banovina". *To make it clear:* prior 1944 there wasnt any kind of "Macedonia" in this region. This region geographically is the ancient Paeonia. During the Classical, the Hellenistic *and* the Roman eras it was "Paeonia"; during the Byzantine era it was the "Monastiri Theme" and during the Ottoman era it was the Uskup Villayet, and after the fall of th Ottoman Empire this region was the Slavic "Vardar Banovina". In 1944 the Yugoslav communists created the "Ppls Rep. of Macedonia" with only goal the annexing of the historical region of Macedonia, Greece, a region of high strategic value and the bone of contention for many conquerers for thousands of years. Comintern's (and thus communist Yugoslavia's) ultimate goal was the creation of the "Balkan Union of Soviet Socialist Republics" which would include *all* Balkan communist countries (ie all Balkan countries as all were communist regimes with *only* exception of the capitalist Greece). Control over the Historical region of Macedonia, Greece, meant that the USSR had the control of the Aegean Sea and the Hellespont (Dardanelles) Straits, *thus of also* the Black Sea as a whole (as USSR practically controlled all the Black Sea from above the Dardanelles). These plans were USSR's number one priority. They never managed to fulfill these plans but the communist creation of "Ppls Rep. of Macedonia" within Yugoslavia remained very much true (ie since its creation in 1944), and after the fall of the Yugoslav Federation in 1991 we got the "Rep. of Macedonia" which rised the exact same demands the communist propaganda taught them to rise towards Greece. The 2018 Prespa Agreement came and cleared these deluded historical and geographical demands this country rised towards Greece, restoring the historical and partly the geographical true. Yet, to this day they still refuse to fully comply to the Agreement they themselves signed.
@frankmorris2603
@frankmorris2603 2 жыл бұрын
@@papertoyss I'm betting you're not Macedonian. Maybe Greek. 😆 I'm related to Macos and they'd lose it over your comment. But thanks anyway amigo.
@papertoyss
@papertoyss 2 жыл бұрын
​@@frankmorris2603 I ll friendly and respectfully say this: When someone dreams 1944 communist dreams, I guarantee you he ll be waking up everyday with a huge headache. That's what they allowed themselves to do. So, I dont think they 'll lose anything over my comment that was ever historically theirs; perhaps only their 1944 communist dreams, which suggested that even the names Alexandros, Philippos and Aristotle (profoundly Greek names) were even those actually ...Slavic.
@frankmorris2603
@frankmorris2603 2 жыл бұрын
@@papertoyss I'm not emotionally involved. But on a political level this is all very contentious.
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for covering events happening in WW2 in areas such as as North Mecedonia, where less information is available.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Many thanks 👍
@hakaka912
@hakaka912 2 жыл бұрын
Bro when r u going to do bosnia
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Perhaps this summer but most likely the next.
@hakaka912
@hakaka912 2 жыл бұрын
@@HistoryHustle nice
@sleeper7271
@sleeper7271 2 жыл бұрын
You kinda started halfway there, why not mention that the population was Bulgarian pre WWI ?
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Not fully. I mention the Bulgarian influence though.
@77belts
@77belts 2 жыл бұрын
@@HistoryHustle can you please explain the ethnic and regional identity of the people there then?
@sleeper7271
@sleeper7271 2 жыл бұрын
@@HistoryHustle You did not explain the ethnic or national feeling of the Macedonians pre WWI. That would explain the Bulgarian obsession with it. I find this video disingenuous. 2 000 000 Bulgarians (like myself) have roots from Macedonia
@mcsroom8930
@mcsroom8930 2 жыл бұрын
@@sleeper7271 same brother mine are from prilep and Solun
@Bogdanec1.0
@Bogdanec1.0 6 ай бұрын
​@@sleeper7271Macedonians Identify is pretty similar to that of serbian or bulgarian but the key difference is that they have more Greek or ancient Greek roots but they aren't direct descendants they have just closer roots to them
@something4179
@something4179 2 жыл бұрын
Take a shot everytime people call a Slavic nation "Macedonia" without knowing any context or portion of its recent history.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Please explain.
@mdza
@mdza 2 жыл бұрын
@@HistoryHustle He probably thinks the name is not appropriate for the country as the name itself implies Greek region and its ancient empire. The region where the country lies had never even been a part of the ancient empire of Macedonia but rather incorporated into the territory after the Roman Empire conquered the region and named it Macedonia.
@tatjanavelkova5814
@tatjanavelkova5814 4 ай бұрын
before 25 centuries FILIP MACEDONIAN KINGDOM ! ! !
@gioflo1844
@gioflo1844 3 ай бұрын
​@@tatjanavelkova5814 before 25 centuries you were hitting stones in a cave up north madame.Its ok to be a slav, embrace it. 🤡🤡🤡
@prilep5
@prilep5 2 жыл бұрын
If you could make a research about Balkan wars you’ll see that they were fighting for Macedonia.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Perhaps in the future one day.
@77belts
@77belts 2 жыл бұрын
They fought for macedonia to join Bulgaria
@tatjanavelkova5814
@tatjanavelkova5814 4 ай бұрын
@@77belts...... join ....... your sheeps.
@77belts
@77belts 4 ай бұрын
@@tatjanavelkova5814 u need to learn history
@serdradion4010
@serdradion4010 2 жыл бұрын
During the WW2 they were the region of special interest for the production of rice and opium for medical morphine and war surgery. Under the Bulgarian guard.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Didn't know this..
@martinstojkovski9180
@martinstojkovski9180 4 ай бұрын
occupied by Bulgarian nazi army
@ProfessorBarrancoIII
@ProfessorBarrancoIII 2 жыл бұрын
Not trying to start an argument but I hope as an educated historian youre, you do adknowledge the fact that Macedonia is a region in Greece, ancient Macedonian kingdom was Greek and Alexander the great was Greek and united Greece to fight Persia under Hellenic league. Also modern "Macedonians" are slavs and vergina sun is also Greek even N. Macedonian goverment says that their name is purely regional.
@tirionfordring8737
@tirionfordring8737 2 жыл бұрын
He already mentioned that in the video, so I assume you didn't even start watching before coming here to start an argument. Macedonians today are Slavic as much as all the other South Slavs, who are Slavic mostly in culture, traditions and first and foremost language, while the blood ancestry is mixed and the Slavic component is not the dominant one. I disagree with some of my fellow Macedonians who try to deny our Slavic identity - we are part of the Slavic family and we should be proud of it. But you're wrong as much as they are when you try to portray the Macedonians as Slavs by blood who have nothing in common with the pre-Slavic history of Macedonia. That's simply an insane theory. Keep in mind that Aegean Macedonia (modern Northern Greece) became part of Greece in 1913 and it had sizeable ethnic Macedonian population before the Greek Civil War. On all demographic maps of Aegean Macedonia from 19th and early 20th century (except the Greek maps) the Slavs are shown as dominant group in the region.
@theodorossarafis7370
@theodorossarafis7370 2 жыл бұрын
@@tirionfordring8737 do mot forget that bitola krusevo strumnica stip gevgelja were predominately greek.
@tirionfordring8737
@tirionfordring8737 2 жыл бұрын
@@theodorossarafis7370 Yeah, right... As confirmed by ????? maps from the time. There are hundreds of Macedonian anti-Ottoman revolutionaries from those places you mentioned, how many Greek fighters are from there in comparison?
@theodorossarafis7370
@theodorossarafis7370 2 жыл бұрын
@@tirionfordring8737 go to bitola museum and you will see. Also check the ottoman papers to see how many greek and bulgarian schools were in the area. By the way there we no "macedonian" schools. Wonder why?
@tirionfordring8737
@tirionfordring8737 2 жыл бұрын
@@theodorossarafis7370 Bro, you are literally proving how delusional you are. People from all around the Balkans went to Greek church, which at some point was the only church organisation allowed. By your logic a Somalian that lived in Macedonia, but went to Greek church, is automatically Greek because of it. Stop embarrassing yourself, think before you speak.
@theginginzone1169
@theginginzone1169 2 жыл бұрын
I am American unfortunately it's sad to admit this day n age since our geopolitics don't match our true thoughts concerns n morals but that said I love your channel all i was tought about ww2 in school was Germany was taking over the world n we stood up n saved everyone which I full heartedly believed till I came across operation paperclip and started researching ww2 n its amazing getting a European interpretation of what's documented in English there many good subtitled ones but Americans don't like reading I hope more of us find your channel
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your reply.
@MultiRadl
@MultiRadl Ай бұрын
america dit what ??? :D hahahhahaha to much hollywood ussr deafeted germany and won the war usa was on europe only to take control of some countries wake up your goverment ore the shadow one that controls it is the cancer of the world dont get me wrong i love usa culture and movies but the satanic people your goverment serves are not wellcome anywere soon you will wake up
@felixmbandandayitabi4536
@felixmbandandayitabi4536 2 жыл бұрын
It would have been interesting to analyze further the ethnogenesis of modern Macedonia
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Perhaps one day👍
@mydogsbutler
@mydogsbutler 2 жыл бұрын
What do you mean by "ethnogenesis"? They can't even agree on their own identity. Half of them claim they are Slavs while the other half claim they have been calling themselves Macedonians since antiquity. You know those Slavic ancient Macedonians that founded the Hellenistic period but apparently hated Hellenism. And virtually everyone that claimed them "Macedonians" evades.
@darkomiceski3755
@darkomiceski3755 2 жыл бұрын
@@mydogsbutler Take care about Your ethnogenesis fake nation made by Russian empire.
@jimanast3593
@jimanast3593 2 жыл бұрын
@@mydogsbutler Slavs came to the Balkan peninsula 900 yrs later, so there weren't any Slav ancient Macedonians, only Greek doric dialect speaking Macedonians who didn't hate the rest of the Greeks but unified them under their rule. That's why they were declaring that the campaign to Persian Kingdom was held by the Greeks, except of the Lakaedaemonians (who were the only ones that didn't send any troops). Also, that's why anybody who declares ancient Macedonian decent, has to undoubtfully accept his Greek origin.
@mydogsbutler
@mydogsbutler 2 жыл бұрын
@@jimanast3593 It's sarcasm over the alleged "historian's" evasion that half (VMRO) of the former Yugoslavians switched identities from Slavs into apparently antihellenic founders of the Hellenistic period. Unfortunately, like nearly everyone, he evades to hide his mistake of recognizing them as "Macedonians" against Greek objections. As a historian he also well knows ancient Macedonians, founders of the Hellenstic period, identified as Greeks not Slavs. In other news.. a breakaway region of Belgium today renamed itself Republic of Holland. They now claim to be "ethnic" Hollanders. They renamed a french dialect the Holland language. They are building a giant statue dedicated to Vincent Van Gogh whom they declared their national hero. The newly minted ethnic Hollanders claim the "Region of Holland" was "illegally divided" by the modern Netherlanders. The indigenous ethnic Hollanders accuse the modern Netherlanders of persecuting the ethnic Hollander minority in the "occupied" part of Republic of Holland. Alleged journalists, NGOs, foreign governments, and even "historians" rush to recognize ethnic Hollanders ignoring the protests of people in the Netherlands. They claim recognition of blatantly obvious ultra nationalist frauds represents "human rights". They even violate NATO rules by taking a blind eye to their rampent irredentism which in effect greedlights it.. Stanley Milgrim was right. People turn into sheep and some even monsters when authority figures they trust let them down.
@gibraltersteamboatco888
@gibraltersteamboatco888 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. BZ. 1943 Bulgarian authorities established North Macedonia's first institute of higher education - the Tsar Boris III University in Skopje.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing.
@tirionfordring8737
@tirionfordring8737 2 жыл бұрын
That's not really the truth, since the first institute of higher education in Macedonia was the Faculty of Philosophy in Skopje, established in 1920 as an autonomous branch of the Belgrad University.
@gibraltersteamboatco888
@gibraltersteamboatco888 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I ;eft out a word and have edited to my comment.to North Macedonia
@serdradion4010
@serdradion4010 2 жыл бұрын
Shame on them for not accepting the Bulgarians in the Constitution. Bulgaria gave them it's hart and soul.
@tirionfordring8737
@tirionfordring8737 2 жыл бұрын
@@serdradion4010 Bulgaria gave us veto, that's what it gave us.
@sleeper7271
@sleeper7271 2 жыл бұрын
Why dont you mention the people were Bulgarian?
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Not fully. I mention the Bulgarian influence though.
@77belts
@77belts 2 жыл бұрын
@@HistoryHustle they were ethnic Bulgarian with a regional macedonian identity. Very few Albanians and Serbs were there
@marotvorec
@marotvorec 2 жыл бұрын
@@77belts thats a lie
@sleeper7271
@sleeper7271 2 жыл бұрын
@@marotvorec The north Macedonians are lying. They were Bulgarian way before WWI or WWII but were brainwashed by the Serbs to hate Bulgaria and everything Bulgarian en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macedonians_(ethnic_group) From 1878 until 1918 most independent European observers viewed the Slavs of Macedonia as Bulgarians or as Macedonian Slavs, while their association with Bulgaria was almost universally accepted.[115]
@mydogsbutler
@mydogsbutler 2 жыл бұрын
@@HistoryHustle "Not fully. I mention the Bulgarian influence though." Influence? Take about evasion. Your video incorrectly insinuates they were unhyphenated" Macedonians" back then like they are today. It's not true.. You are wildly misinforming your viewers on their history. Most of them self-identifeid as Bulgarian "Macedonians" back then (to lessor degree Serb). You've completely edited that out. You are peddling a fake historical narrative ironically like Yugoslav communists. . A lot of that going around thse days by those that recognized them as "Macedonians". Billions even pretend not to notice their most recent switch-a-roo of identity from Slavs into antihellenic founders of the Hellenistic period.
@trollpolice3739
@trollpolice3739 2 жыл бұрын
By far the most accurate representation of our lands in WW2. Keep it up
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@panajiotisk
@panajiotisk 2 жыл бұрын
Laughing.......First of all: In the Census of 1921 in The Kingdom of Serbs,Croats and Slovenians (what was later Yugoslavia)= we see: Serbian & Croatian, Slovenian, Czech-Slovakian, Ruthenian, Polish, Russian, Hungarian, German, Albanian, Turkish, Romanian, Italian, French?, English?, Others, but NO Macedonian… And it is very hard to explain how the "Macedonians" have a name which does NOT come from their slavic language. They were a made up state from Tito since not even Yugoslavians themselves called this area Macedonia but Vardarska. And whoever can provide something seriously different I would be happy to answer.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you had a laugh 👍
@sasho888prm
@sasho888prm 2 жыл бұрын
Bulgarian here, Tito did not actually create them. They were created by the International Communist Committee (Comintern) with headquarters in Moscow in 1944, mainly to stop Bulgarians, Serbs and Greeks fighting over the territory. As of 1944 all ethnic groups in the region were to document themselves as "Macedonians". Tito's regime made life difficult or impossible for the ones with a Bulgarian ethnicity (the biggest ethnic group there) to call themselves Bulgarians, or they'd be tortured or sent to prison. What followed were decades of brainwashing to the point where they now hate Bulgaria but in their history all they have are Bulgarian poets, writers teachers, revolutionaries and even a Bulgarian tsar, which are all somehow according to them Macedonians and never Bulgarians...
@Bogdanec1.0
@Bogdanec1.0 6 ай бұрын
Then why did people already started in 1870's to indentifie as Macedonians and why did people and several letters say that when they were there that they described as a distinct group from the greeks bulgars and serbs ​@sasho888prm
@steliangeorgiev5601
@steliangeorgiev5601 6 ай бұрын
@@sasho888prm So brainwashed that they manually erased all Bulgarian writings from medieval churches. I don't know why it's so hard to say.... Yes, we were part of Ancient Greece, Byzantium and Bulgaria. Like we can't hide Bulgaria was a communist state after World War 2.
@nwk-wt3ty
@nwk-wt3ty 2 жыл бұрын
Fascinating, thank you Stefan.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@gumdeo
@gumdeo 2 жыл бұрын
This region was disputed between Serbia/Yugoslavia and Bulgaria in the Second Balkan war, WW1 and WW2.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed. Much history there.
@tommy-er6hh
@tommy-er6hh 2 жыл бұрын
And do not forget that when Yugoslavia fell apart, Bulgaria (and Greece) showed STILL interest in Macedonia, it was only when all NATO made sure Macedonia was independent that B&G backed off.....
@НевенаНиколова-к6ы
@НевенаНиколова-к6ы 2 жыл бұрын
@@tommy-er6hh Wrong. 1. IIIrd Bulgarian Army at the Yugoslav border and the quick recognition of their independence by Bulgaria made sure Macedonia did not follow the fate of Bosnia or Croatia. 2. By that time we still considered the Macedonians our brethren, we bled in 5 wars for their liberty. Now we understand they do not want to do anything with us, so we do not care - if they want to be Serbs, they are welcome. Although more likely they will turn in Albanians...
@serdradion4010
@serdradion4010 2 жыл бұрын
2nd Balkan war was about the Serbia, Yugoslavia started on the Jan 6 1929.
@sasho888prm
@sasho888prm 2 жыл бұрын
@@НевенаНиколова-к6ы Completely agree.
@hopelesscase8667
@hopelesscase8667 2 жыл бұрын
Can't help but notice that you refer it as "North" Macedonia and "North Macedonians". It was renamed to North few years back, and not in the world wars. Except for that great video, looking forward to part 2 👍
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
True but its just not to anger Greeks. I also use Slavo or Yugoslav Macedonians as a variation.
@hopelesscase8667
@hopelesscase8667 2 жыл бұрын
@@HistoryHustle You won't anger the greeks, but you'll anger the macedonians. It's a lose lose situation 😅 But in the end you can't please everyone. I think us, Macedonians have gone through enough disrespect from our neighbors in the last 100 years or more, so we are used to stuff like that, anyway I can't defend us, after all we have a mutual anger as they do.
@steel4o
@steel4o 2 жыл бұрын
I think he is spot on with the North Macedonia reference. Correct me if i'm wrong, but the way I see it, the video is on the war in the territory of what is today the country of North Macedonia, not Greek Macedonia or Bulgarian Macedonia, or the region Macedonia as a whole. Also there was a referendum in which 91% of the (36% who participated) agreed with the name change and forever being known as north-macedonians.
@yaboidex4000
@yaboidex4000 2 жыл бұрын
@@hopelesscase8667 100 years????lmao before north Macedonia was created in the 1945 you guys were known as vardarska banovina apart of Serbia and you guys were well respected by your neighbors before all the bs politics came in and stealing of history came in
@sasho888prm
@sasho888prm 2 жыл бұрын
@@hopelesscase8667 The problem is that you North Macedonians are not accepting that you are a new nation, like Kosovo, and claim to be a separate race, but at the same time stealing random Bulgarians from history.. If you just accept that you're a new nation and identity, no one would be offended, because this is a fact.
@hellfruit5612
@hellfruit5612 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. It's indeed a not talked about part of Interwar/WW2 history and often misinformative, but the narrative, pictures and bibliography you used really took the video off. Golem Pozdrav
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your reaction.
@justanapple8510
@justanapple8510 2 жыл бұрын
Great video stefan as always!
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Many thanks.
@XHollisWood
@XHollisWood 2 жыл бұрын
Stefan, your history lessons on location are so incredibly inspiring. It brings life to learning. Thank You for sharing!! Have a great weekend 👍
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jesse. Greetings from Albania 🇦🇱
@konstantinkostadinov6695
@konstantinkostadinov6695 Жыл бұрын
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@mr.angelosonassis3069
@mr.angelosonassis3069 4 ай бұрын
Mihailov had a conscious of being Bulgarian, and he wanted others to feel the same, but most Macedonians had (and still have) a strong consciousness of being Macedonian. Mihailov was fascist who collaborated with the Nazis, but he couldn't find large numbers of Macedonians who identified as Bulgarian. Bulgarian occupiers were genuinely shocked that so many Macedonians wanted them to leave. In a democracy, the majority decides. For the last 150 years, less than 5% of Macedonians (if that) have had a Bulgarian consciousness. This has been pointed out by British, Greek, Bulgarian and Serbian military officers who observed and recorded their thoughts of the local people.
@AsterM2
@AsterM2 2 жыл бұрын
During 1WW, the Bulgarian occupation authorities committed crimes against prominent Serbs, especially from Eastern Serbia, Vardar Macedonia, and Kosovo. A large number of priests, monks, teachers, judges, merchants, officers, AND children were killed, among them the Metropolitan of Skopje Vikentije (Krdzic), the Bishop of Prizren Nikifor (Peric), the abbot of the monastery of St. Prohor Pcinjski Vladimir (Protic) and the entire fraternity. CopIed...... True? 2WW?
@serdradion4010
@serdradion4010 2 жыл бұрын
How comes Bulgarians in Kosova, which was the part of Albania, with it's own Army? Bulgarians nowdays are not the enemies like the Squiptare.
@dobripvalov
@dobripvalov 2 жыл бұрын
Bruh, the Serbs also did very bad things to Bulgarian women and children in Macedonia after the Second Balkan war. Let's acknowledge that Both Bulgarians and Serbs did horrible things in the past and let's be friends instead of hating each other for things in the past.
@sasho888prm
@sasho888prm 2 жыл бұрын
What, you think Serbs were clean? Look how much Macedonians hate Bulgarians today, because of Serb atrocities in the region- "No one is allowed to call themselves Bulgarians." Otherwise prison or death. Now these people are so scared, that they invented their own history, only taught in their region.
@serdradion4010
@serdradion4010 2 жыл бұрын
@@dobripvalov After the WW2, in charge were the vintners of the war, the Yugoslav communists Army, and Macedonian communists particularly in PR Macedonia. No Serbian authorities were in charge in PR Macedonia, only in PR Serbia. PR- peoples Republic. Although revenge sentiment existed due to war time reprisals and anti guerilla terror.
@77belts
@77belts 2 жыл бұрын
And Serbs committed atrocities against vardar Bulgarians
@darkonikodinovski2742
@darkonikodinovski2742 2 жыл бұрын
It would be good if you could cover the whole scale of the holocaust in N. Macedonia
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Perhaps one day.
@mydogsbutler
@mydogsbutler 2 жыл бұрын
"The Serbianization of the Vardar region ended and Yugoslavization was not introduced either; rather, a policy of cultural, linguistic, and “historical” Macedonization by de-Bulgarianization was implemented, with immediate success"" - Irina Livezeanu and Arpad von KlimoThe Routledge as ed. History of East Central Europe since 1700, Routledge, 2017, ISBN 1351863428, p. 490.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Please share your own insights instead of quoting around. Thanks.
@mydogsbutler
@mydogsbutler 2 жыл бұрын
@@HistoryHustle I do both.. I dont' see the problem with also sharing quotes. Why shoud quotes from 3rd party accredited specialists that have written books on the issue be an issue to you? You claim to be a historian. Typically historians also consider primary sources too when asserting something no?. Why should quotes by their own "Macedonian" national heroes, also claiming to be BULGARIANS be an issue? Seems to me by your repeated attempt to tell me what I should say you are once again trying to censor some of the facts that contradict your oft repeated,, and false, claim they were simply "Macedonians" back then. Sorry. if my criticism upsets that those in engaged in ethnic engineering (like the Comintern) but their narrative that they were unhypenated "Macedonians" back then isn't true.. The fact remains the vast majority of them before Tito's renamed Vardar into "Macedonia" in 1944 self-identified as ethnic Bulgarian "Macedonians". The majority of the rest as Serb "Macedonians". Reference of them claiming to be purely "Macedonian" prior to 1944 are lacking context. IMRO (a Bulgarian organizations) for period consciously tried to hide they were secretly working for Bulgaria Later references are to Yugoslav communists that violently oppressed Bulgarian identity in Vardar.
@mydogsbutler
@mydogsbutler 2 жыл бұрын
​@@HistoryHustle Before settling on name IMRO several of it's key leaders had been part of other similar committees calling for the autonomy of Macedonia... Macedonian Revolutionary Organisation (MRO) Bulgarian Macedonian-Adrianople Revolutionary Committees (BMARC) Secret Macedonian-Adrianople Revolutionary Organisation (SMARO) Internal Macedonian-Adrianople Revolutionary Organisation (IMARO) You;ll notice one the names is BMARC... BULGARIAN Macedonian-Adrianople Revolutionary Committee..
@mydogsbutler
@mydogsbutler 2 жыл бұрын
@@HistoryHustle To walk through a specific example of historical revisionism..... Gotse Delchev is claimed today as an "ethnic" macedonian by the former Yugoslavians (and some of their foreign apologists in the mainstream press that incompetently repeat their historical gibberish) . Gotse was born to a self-identifying ethnic BULGARIAN family. He attended BULGARIAN Men's High School of Thessaloniki and later briefly attended the BULGARIAN military academic in Sophia. After that he became a teacher of BULGARIAN while becoming involved in various Bulgarian committees calling for the sovereignty of Macedonia. Delchev is on record many times calling himself BULGARIAN. There are even records of his death being reported by Ottoman authorities and NY Times as a BULGARIAN. For period though, some MRO varients pretended to be purely "Macedonia". This would include Dechev. who for a brief period claimed to be purely Macedonian. There is an extremely important subtle naunce most miss about IMRO though. It was conscious propaganda by Delchev and other Bulgarian MRO leaders. They all had a purely Bulgarian ethnic consciousness despite for period claiming not to be Bulgarians. After BMARC 's failed approach of appealing purely to Bulgarians, the regional Bulgarians switched tactics and tried to trick locals and foreign power into supporting Bulgarian national cause under the veneer of it being purely "Macedonian". Ivan Hadzhinikolov, one of the BULGARIAN founders of IMRO, in his memoirs wrote about some of the basic secret principles of the MRO's foundation: one of them was... "The revolutionary organization should be established within Macedonia and should act there, so that the Greeks and Serbs couldn't label it as a tool of the BULGARIAN government."
@mydogsbutler
@mydogsbutler 2 жыл бұрын
@@HistoryHustle "Please share your own insights instead of quoting around. " Personal opinion a century later is hearsay. Anyone can claim anything using such an approach to history alone.. Primary sources are critical to understanding events during a period. I quote "Macedonian" Gotse Delchev.... "Let us not allow the splits and splintering to frighten us. It is, indeed, a pity, but what can we do, since we are Bulgarians and all suffer from one common disease. If this disease had not been present in our ancestors, from whom we inherited it, they would have never fallen under the sceptre of the Turkish Sultan... " - Gotse Delchev,, Letter to Nikola Malashevski, Jan. 5 1899
@jokodihaynes419
@jokodihaynes419 2 жыл бұрын
i hope you do a video on the chetniks and keep up the great work you're doing😀😊
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, one day for sure.
@leges_1673
@leges_1673 2 жыл бұрын
all of macedonia is bulgarian teritory + the bulgarian ,, occupation ''was not occupation it was a freedom from a yougoslav tirany and imro is bulgarian organisaation created after the berlin congress to reunify the bulgariaan lands ovveral this clip is 3/10
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Whenever someone states things like this I am baffled by their lack of argumentation and source references while you can find mine in the description.
@leges_1673
@leges_1673 2 жыл бұрын
@@HistoryHustle mine are in history books
@RU-Aussie
@RU-Aussie 2 жыл бұрын
Lies
@TheDuchy-d3h
@TheDuchy-d3h 6 ай бұрын
​@@leges_1673 wdym "liberation"? Your country sent over 7000 Macedonian jews to German camps, they would never return.
@DJFreeway-DJDeltoid-DJZales
@DJFreeway-DJDeltoid-DJZales Ай бұрын
Can you do ancient history of Polynesian nations and African nations we have now?
@gelisgeo1309
@gelisgeo1309 2 жыл бұрын
The main population of Vardaska (north Macedonia) were Bulgarians. Bulgarians recorded by the Ottomans and Bulgarians recorded in the Balkan wars. Besides, their language is actually Bulgarian.. of course they have nothing to do with real Greek Macedonia. Congratulations for the video!
@tirionfordring8737
@tirionfordring8737 2 жыл бұрын
If Macedonians at that time were Bulgarians, then why did they stage an uprising and fight against the Bulgarian rule?
@gelisgeo1309
@gelisgeo1309 2 жыл бұрын
@@tirionfordring8737 you confused communist indipendet dreams with real nations
@tirionfordring8737
@tirionfordring8737 2 жыл бұрын
@@gelisgeo1309 This was incredibly stupid comment from your side.
@tirionfordring8737
@tirionfordring8737 2 жыл бұрын
@@yellowwasprakija2869 Tell me, how big was the Serbian armed resistance in Macedonia, compared to both the Macedonian partisan movement and the pro-Bulgarian element, since "a good chunk of the population" was Serbian?
@chrisb2743
@chrisb2743 2 жыл бұрын
@@tirionfordring8737 it was called servie lol serbia was small
@dimitarchuchkov7490
@dimitarchuchkov7490 2 жыл бұрын
i m from Bulgaria close to the border and now and then there are Bulgarians . My grandfathers all fight for the freedom of this part and all of them are recognised as Bulgarians , just check Efrem Chuchkov ,Goce Delchev and more from IMRO.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this.
@Petreski447
@Petreski447 Жыл бұрын
Just check about ASNOM and MRO you little tartar.
@ljubomirstojevski9452
@ljubomirstojevski9452 Жыл бұрын
идиоти
@vangelijanikoloska2566
@vangelijanikoloska2566 Жыл бұрын
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@AlbanianManIB
@AlbanianManIB 10 ай бұрын
Sure, east macedonians are bulgarians and west macedonians are albanians. Today's Macedonia was made up by Tito which called bulgarians and albanians living there macedonians. Simple as that!!
@nikolaosspartakos5392
@nikolaosspartakos5392 2 жыл бұрын
North Macedonia ? Vardarska
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Please watch this before replying. Thanks.
@dobripvalov
@dobripvalov 2 жыл бұрын
I really worry about the sources you use because they can often be very biased. About the claim that "Serbian officials were simply replaced by Bulgarian ones", that's simply not the case. The administration in Macedonia was made up almost entirely by locals, plus the Bulgarian forces stationed there were around 70% locals. In other words the Macedonians basically administered themselves. About the low partisan activity in the region, it was due to the fact that the Macedonian communists, who were previously members of the Yugoslav communist party, immediately joined the Bulgarian communist party and refused to take up arms against the Bulgarian authorities. This says a lot about the people there. Talking about when Bulgaria switched sides, it did participate in the liberation of Macedonia and south Serbia, kinda disingenuous not to mention it.
@johnofdebar4071
@johnofdebar4071 2 жыл бұрын
The author clearly stated in several occasions that the country was occupied by Bulgaria... but if you want to sugarcoat it and call it administration, then it's your choice.
@johnofdebar4071
@johnofdebar4071 2 жыл бұрын
@@carlustin4034 sure, all these countries occupied Yugoslavia, except Bulgaria, which was not even siding with the axis forces, but it was an allied nation in WWII. And this was also the case in WWI. Then as well Bulgaria was siding with the allies and not with Germany. In summary, sorry that Bulgaria was on the wrong side of history not once, but twice, but you cant change the past by denying it.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
@John: thanks for replying.
@DimDos
@DimDos 2 жыл бұрын
Ivan Mihailov was bulgarian fighting for independent Macedonia from Yugoslavia . And later independent Macedonia to join Bulgaria.
@globalcombattv
@globalcombattv 9 ай бұрын
Not true, he was fighting for an independent Macedonia with Bulgarians and all other ethnicities inside. He didn't want the new state to join Bulgaria for some reason. It's well documentated.
@mydogsbutler
@mydogsbutler 6 ай бұрын
@@globalcombattv You are missing context. Misirkov is on record many many times referencing himself and the people of Skopje as Bulgarians before and after the failed Krushevo rebublic. His idea of a Macedonian state was as an offshoot of Bulgarians but called "Macedonians".
@mydogsbutler
@mydogsbutler 6 ай бұрын
@@globalcombattv No matter whether we call ourselves Bulgarians or Macedonians we shall always feel as a nationality with a Bulgarian national consciousness "Macedonian" linguist Krste Misirkov
@mydogsbutler
@mydogsbutler 6 ай бұрын
@@globalcombattv We are Bulgarians, more Bulgarians than the Bulgarians in Bulgaria themselves. Krste Misirkov The population of Skopje is pure Bulgarian Krste Misirkov This is the exact reason Bulgaria also objects to the former Yugoslavians obviously fake history. Unfortunately masses of liars that called them "Macedonians" unethically evade over their behavior to hide their mistake of ridiculously recognizing them as Athenians... um... Spartans.. no wait the Greek hating liars claim they are "Macedonians" Greece's problem is it focus on Skopje. What it should have done is gone after Skopje's foreign apologists diplomatically by going after their own identities in retalitation for recognizing them. It's become very apparent by all their evasions the antiellenic bigots well knew they weren't Macedonians but used them as proxy to harass Greeks.
@voskreglavincevska7080
@voskreglavincevska7080 6 ай бұрын
​@@mydogsbutlerWhat for ?
@Chrs82
@Chrs82 Күн бұрын
Next video about N.O.F. for ethnic macedonians during the resistance against the Nazis (EAM ) and the greek civil war they was about 22.000
@Stojna-wj3wd
@Stojna-wj3wd 4 ай бұрын
everyone wants to have MACEDONIA, MACEDONIA to the Macedonians, MACEDONIANS are MACEDONIANS - not bulgarians, nor greeks neither Serbs
@ikifilm
@ikifilm 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this subject, but your video desperately needs a basic sound mix! It is unlistenable!
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Hmm, heard no complains so far.
@Camilla_Kudrin
@Camilla_Kudrin 2 жыл бұрын
But, eventually, people of North Macedonia got their independence from Bulgarians, Serbs, Germans, Italians, etc. I wish North Macedonia good luck! P.S. It's always funny for me, how Bulgaria, just like Romania, switched sides only when Soviet forces defeated them and came to their borders 😂
@ilijapilipovic
@ilijapilipovic 2 жыл бұрын
You dont know anything about it.
@mikebeast8582
@mikebeast8582 2 жыл бұрын
People of North Macedonia? U mean Macedonians?
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
The dispute remains.
@nitroflesh
@nitroflesh 2 жыл бұрын
@@HistoryHustle No dispute anymore. The dispute about the name of the people Macedonians has ended with the "Prespa agreement" between N.Macedonia and Greece
@77belts
@77belts 2 жыл бұрын
Bulgaria never was at war with the USSR before 1944. And Macedonian Bulgarians were ripped away from Bulgarians
@sup2320
@sup2320 2 жыл бұрын
I had no idea that Bulgarians were nazis. Wtf?
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
They werent Nazis.
@mdza
@mdza 2 жыл бұрын
They were collaborators, but switched sides by the end of the war.
@sup2320
@sup2320 2 жыл бұрын
@@HistoryHustle collaborators are no better. Sounds like the only reason they switched sides (typical Bulgarian fashion) at the end was because the impending defeat was upon them.
@RU-Aussie
@RU-Aussie Жыл бұрын
@@mdza Cowards comes to mind that do that
@ivanmilanov8386
@ivanmilanov8386 10 ай бұрын
The Soviet Union were collaborators too.
@mandodando8959
@mandodando8959 2 жыл бұрын
Macedonia is Greek. Alexander the Great was greek. Simple logic.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
The video is not about that. Simple logic 👌
@mandodando8959
@mandodando8959 2 жыл бұрын
@@HistoryHustle yeah I get it. I didnt comment it to hate the vid or you. Instead it was a great vid of you. I just commented for historical purposes :)
@RU-Aussie
@RU-Aussie 2 жыл бұрын
Greece is Turkish
@mydogsbutler
@mydogsbutler 2 жыл бұрын
@@HistoryHustle This video is partially revisionist history. It obfuscates they mostly self-identified as mostly ethnic Bulgarian "macedonians" back then. The ones that didn't were mostly self-identifing Serbian "Macedonians". To listen to this video though they were mostly unhyphenated Macedonians. A gross misrepresentation of the facts. It's only after WW2 when Yugoslav communists completely whiped out their ethnic Bulgarian context. Look i get it when average joe wants to hide their mistake of calling them "Macedonian". After watching mountains of alleged journalists. foreign policians, and so-called human rights defenders all unethicallly evade over their identity change into ancient Macedonians... I'm use to patroninzing evasive antihellenic iars by now. You are an alleged historian though. Your loyalties are supposed to be about telling actual history rather than appealing to populists.
@tatjanavelkova5814
@tatjanavelkova5814 4 ай бұрын
@@mandodando8959 MAKEDONIJA IS MAKEDONIJA ! ! you in... rocks.
@TheDuchy-d3h
@TheDuchy-d3h 6 ай бұрын
Im so sick of all these holocaust deniers in the comment section talking about how Bulgaria didnt participate in the holocaust whilst they handed over 7000 macedonian jews to Germany. Great vid btw! Sorry for the shitty comments people are leaving. And uh I should mention that Macedonians prefer being called by their official legal denonym "Macedonians" rather than "Slavo-Macedonians" which most people find offensive due to it's use by greek nationalists.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 6 ай бұрын
I am here to tell history. When people feel offended it doesn't mean they are right.
@TheDuchy-d3h
@TheDuchy-d3h 6 ай бұрын
@@HistoryHustle ?
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 6 ай бұрын
Balkan history is extremely polarized. That means I can never do it right. Like I said I am here to tell history and if people are offended, my sources can always be found below each video, than that is their issue.
@TheDuchy-d3h
@TheDuchy-d3h 6 ай бұрын
@@HistoryHustle ok
@danchokonstantinov6735
@danchokonstantinov6735 6 ай бұрын
BG sent some 12 000 jews from Macedonia and some 7 000 from western / greek Thrace . They were not granted BG citizenship . The macedonians were granted some privileges, to which some vlach organizations protested, as well as many macedonians from Italian occupation zone found refuge in BG occupied Macedonia.
@theodorossarafis7370
@theodorossarafis7370 2 жыл бұрын
A great video i would suggest to talk more about the treaty of st stefan that will explain a lot. A thing you did not mention when in 1941 germans arrived in skopje the locals welcomed them with flowers and the was no action against the occupying forces.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. I did mention how both the Germand and Bulgarians were welcomed.
@theodorossarafis7370
@theodorossarafis7370 2 жыл бұрын
@@HistoryHustle i didnt hear it. A good chance to re watch the video ;)
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
@@theodorossarafis7370 👍
@jimanast3593
@jimanast3593 2 жыл бұрын
@@HistoryHustle Since most of them R Bulgarians (even nowdays they have Bulgarian passports), they welcomed Bulgarians & their allies, the Germans!
@shutup7957
@shutup7957 2 жыл бұрын
@@jimanast3593 no
@valentinstoyanov304
@valentinstoyanov304 2 жыл бұрын
Dear Stefan, in 1934 Ivan Mihaylov fled to Turkey (not to Italy). His memoirs of 4 books (2000 pages) are quite compelling and this episode is described in details... And after over 4 years in Turkey, Mihaylov moved to Poland to be captured by the invading Germans. He refused to collaborate to the Reich because both the Allies and the Axis powers never supported the idea for an independent Macedonian state (a creation Mihaylov calls "Switzerland on the Balkans").
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
I read Italy but in case you're right I stand corrected.
@valentinstoyanov304
@valentinstoyanov304 2 жыл бұрын
@@HistoryHustle He spent the last decades of his life in Rome. But in 1934 it was rather impossible for him to reach Italy.
@IvanIvanov-yl4mz
@IvanIvanov-yl4mz 2 жыл бұрын
It will be interesting to write about the creation of the Macedonian language. Look at it in several stages: to the beginning of the 20th century, 1920, 1945, 1990. Compare it with the languages of the neighboring nations - Serbs, Bulgarians, Greeks and Albanians (there is not much in common with the last 2 and you may not bother) for the indicated stages. And draw conclusions.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Sure an interesting topic.
@ivanmilanov8386
@ivanmilanov8386 2 жыл бұрын
I will copy an two answers that i gave to Gorazd Vuk about the relationship between Bulgaria and Macedonia pre-WW2 coz i am lazy and don't want to re-write them. so here it is: Gorazd Vuk I don't know if you've read history before the WW2. Poeple form Macedonia voted for the Bulgarian Exarchate. There are a couple of refugee waves from Macedonia to Bulgaria. The majority of these refugees settle near our capital and played a huge role in Bulgarian politics. Many of them became bussinesmen, politicians and military men. Huge part of out elite were from Macedonia(we even had a prime minister(Andrey Lyapchev) from Macedonia and another who had roots in Macedonia( Andrey Toshev)). 99% of your revolutionaries are bulgarians. A lot of the heirs of your ancestors live in Bulgaria. After Tito closed the borders alot of family members were divided from the laws put in place byy the communists(your great grandfather). Even after the strong attempt from the Kingdom of Yugoslavia to serbisize Macedonia there were alot of people with bulgarian identity in Macedonia. The history between our two counties is complex. Admit that you are Yugoslavian? Do you mean the Serbian led kingdom of Yugoslavia or do you mean Communist Yugoslavia? VMRO was purely bulgarian organisation. It didn't oparate only in Macedonia but in Adrianople too so its goals were bigger then Macedonia. Your voivodas are mainly bulgarians. Just on top of my head our ex-president Stoqnov made a joke in you museum of facism in Skopie infront of macedonian officials that you conqured us not the other way around. He gave an example with the name of our National Academy for Theatre and Film Arts Krastyo Sarafov. Krastyo Sarafov was a famous bulgarian actor and chairmen of The Union of Artists in Bulgaria. His brother was the famous bulgarian revolutionary Boris Sarafov. Member of VMRO and leader of "cheta"(military formation) of 40 chetnicks that took part in the The Ilinden-Preobrazhenie Uprising. Even many of the communist gorilla fighters that fought the so called facist forcess in Macedonia during WW2 were bulgarian of origin.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
The discussion rages on..
@bspokos
@bspokos 2 жыл бұрын
There is not north Macedonia they call it F.Y.R.O.M. ...
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
They did, now it's North Macedonia.
@bspokos
@bspokos 2 жыл бұрын
@@HistoryHustle Wrong!!!
@RU-Aussie
@RU-Aussie 2 жыл бұрын
Are you speaking Turkish
@bspokos
@bspokos 2 жыл бұрын
@@RU-Aussie who are you ???
@TheDuchy-d3h
@TheDuchy-d3h 6 ай бұрын
​@@bspokos it's no longer FY Republic of Macedonia, it's now North Macedonia, check the wikipedia page if you dont believe me.
@CARL_093
@CARL_093 2 жыл бұрын
I learn more on the situation of north macedonia in ww2 and good job bro kudos to you 👍👍
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Many thanks!
@MyronidesVideo
@MyronidesVideo 2 жыл бұрын
Wrong, professor, the state of "North Macedonia" was never part of the ancient kingdom or the geographical region of Macedonia.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Ancient kingdom not but when I search for geographical region I see its included. Perhaps not by Greek standards.
@Iamjustabirdinthesky
@Iamjustabirdinthesky 2 жыл бұрын
I think 11% is
@VladTevez
@VladTevez 2 жыл бұрын
@@HistoryHustle The ancient Macedonia was an area included 95% in modern Greece. The modern region of Macedonia is much larger than the ancient boundaries
@tatjanavelkova5814
@tatjanavelkova5814 4 ай бұрын
@@VladTevez........ your area ? .... in wood.
@VladTevez
@VladTevez 4 ай бұрын
@@tatjanavelkova5814 For god's sake, troll/bot, at least learn vocabulary and grammar
@ΒαγγεληςΝοτης
@ΒαγγεληςΝοτης 2 жыл бұрын
Not Macedonia only vardaskqa
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Others believe otherwise.
@RU-Aussie
@RU-Aussie Жыл бұрын
Ok turk
@alexisgateley230
@alexisgateley230 2 жыл бұрын
So this geographical region which was called Vardar Banovina and after WWII it was renamed as Macedonia by the Yugoslav communist regime and few years ago to North Macedonia consists mainly of Slavic populations (with an Albanian minority of about 25-30%) that speak a Bulgarian dialect and have nothing whatsoever to do with the ancient Greek Macedonian history and territory. Taking all this into account, this state appears more like a combination of "Western Bulgaria" and "Southern Kosovo" than anything else.
@isajloskidarko
@isajloskidarko 2 жыл бұрын
You ain't smart
@gfg2846
@gfg2846 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly they are not the same people that were in Macedonia also the region macedonia back then was only in the Greek Borders and around 4% to the north part after Romans extended the region for easier ruling the region became much bigger. Not to mention slavs like them came 800 years after his death telling us that they have no connections to ancient macedonia
@marotvorec
@marotvorec 2 жыл бұрын
If we were so much the same why did we fight against so many Bulgarian occupation? We loved Bulgaria so much we bombed them? Yea sure mr Einstein
@gfg2846
@gfg2846 2 жыл бұрын
@@marotvorec you are not macedonian you are a slav not a macedonian
@marotvorec
@marotvorec 2 жыл бұрын
@@gfg2846 the vlaci up in krusevo would say otherwise
@nanculito
@nanculito Жыл бұрын
Nothing was mentioned about the role of Bulgaria on the side of the Allies and its major role in the liberation of the whole of Yugoslavia by the Bulgarians from the Nazi and the Germans, alongside with the Yugoslav partisans. Bulgaria's participation in the war is divided into two phases, after the switching the sides. First Liberation of Yugoslavia - Kosovo, Serbia and North Macedonia, only by the Bulgarians, except for Belgrade, where they capture the city together with the 3rd Ukrainian Front in 20 October 1944. And a second phase, when Bulgarians together with Ukrainians fought in Hungary and Austria. Even after the signing of the peace treaty on May 8 they were still fighting with the Nazi Germans. This is the main reason why Bulgaria is the only country that was on the side of the Axis, but actually gained territory after the war. 25,000 Bulgarian soldiers, out of 450,000 Bulgarian people's army that participated in the war, after the change of sides, fell in all battles against the Germans in this war! The bloodiest of these was that one of the Drava River, where the Nazi Germans made a last-ditch attempt to seize the initiative in a mighty counter-offensive! And nothing about that, zero... but ok Bulgarian were the bad guys :)) ... may be for the Prinz Eugen division and the Waffen SS... But still not a bad video with interesting facts :) And a little more about the war in the Balkans. The worst atrocities were committed not by the Bulgarians, but by the Serbs, the Serbian volunteer corps and the Chetniks who fought for the Germans and Croats from the Ustashi in Yugoslavia.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing.
@desssval
@desssval 2 жыл бұрын
Macedonia had Bulgarian schools, churches, civic organisations for a long time prior to 1941-44 period. They were simply closed by the Serbs when they occupied the region after WWI. In fact anyone who is anyone in Macedonian history was either a pupil or teacher in the Bulgarian schools or both. Goce Delchev, Dame Gruev, Pere Toshev, Vasil Chekalarov, etc were all teaching Bulgarian language and history in Bulgarian to Bulgarian kids in Ottoman Turkey. In the terminology of the video they were Bulgarising the population but this is plainly absurd as their struggle in VMORO was struggle for Macedonia and Odrinsko. Explaining: they were Macedonians in terms of region and political cause. The other regions with Bulgarians were free. Macedonia and Odrinsko were not. Hence Vatreshna Makedono-Odrinska Organizacija. They lived in a multinational region where they lived among Greeks, Vlachs, Jews, Turks etc. They wanted freedom that could be achieved only by cooperation with all other nationalities. The Great Powers could supportautonomy for the region as it was vaguely promised in 1878 but not national unification with one of the local powers like Greece, Bulgaria and Serbia. Hence they fought for autonomy and equal rights for all religions and ethnicities but at the same time never stopped being Bulgarians themselves like the rest of the wider Bulgarian “tribe” as Goce Delchev said. This concept of broader Macedonian identity is quite different from the narrow one established after 1944 which applied only to the (former) Bulgarian element with new names, alphabet, language, history, etc All other nationalities kept their identity as it was before - Vlachs were Vlachs, Turks are still Turks and so are gupti, Serbs etc. but Bulgarians - they were gone from reality and from memory and history books. That is why history is so contentions - it is a proof for a former very different world that was banished and replaced with a new one. Example: the Kosovars were and are as fully Albanian as all others in Albania or Macedonia but had to fight their own centuries long struggle for the liberation of their homeland - Kosovo. Similar fight, similar steps - for greater autonomy within Yugoslavia and outright independence when it became possible. Different political entities and interests but still within broader common identity. In short, Bulgarian churches and schools and Bulgarian language were not imposed but restored. The administration and army contained a lot of Macedonian Bulgarian immigrants who came home. Incidentally the Bulgarian occupation brought back the very name Macedonia and Macedonians which were banned during Serbian control. Vardar Banovina and Southern Serbs were the only allowed names for the place and its people.
@RU-Aussie
@RU-Aussie Жыл бұрын
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@agarfan
@agarfan 2 жыл бұрын
Would love to see a video covering the currency used in Nazi occupied countries or puppet states.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Perhaps some day. Interesting topic.
@rjames3981
@rjames3981 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting. Did not know about the Bulgarian occupation of North Macedonia.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this.
@MultiRadl
@MultiRadl Ай бұрын
it was no an occupation dont lissen to propaganda shithead wanna be historian , macedonias at that time view themself as bulgarians as all of the leaders of imro you can check anywere britanica wiki any history books that are not from yogoslavia
@b.s.1929
@b.s.1929 2 жыл бұрын
I want to point out a few things that should have been said during the video: 1. During the whole period of 1941-1944 the vast majority of Macedonians felt themselves as ethnic Bulgarians. The idea of political separatism in Macedonia was widespread and has a very rich and interesting history(IMRO history is amazing), but the idea that they were a separate ethnic group was still shared by only tiny minority of people. Not until later, after brutal reprisals against people preserving their Bulgarian consciousness was the Bulgarian ethnic identity of the majority of Macedonian people replaced with an ethnic Macedonian identity. 2. As stated in the view of the Bulgarian communist party, the struggle was perceived as against an internal Bulgarian oppressive regime. Partisan activity and resistance was widespread throughout the whole of Bulgaria, especially in the latter half of the period. The fight, outside of the view of the Yugoslav partisans, was viewed as not fighting against a foreign oppressor, but a local domestic one. Evidence of this is the fact that a huge part of the local administration and army (including the famous IMRO organized Bulgarian Action Committees) was made up by people from the Macedonian region. 3. Unfortunately, due to not fitting the narrative of Yugoslav and modern day North Macedonian propaganda, the role of the Bulgarian army in liberating North Macedonia from the Germans after we switched sides is presented as negligent, despite in fact being the major factor with the most troops which saw the most actions. The local Yugoslav partisans played mostly a supporting role and their role was later propagated as being the major factor in driving the Germans out of North Macedonia. Nowadays, there are no monuments or war cemeteries for the Bulgarians who sacrificed themselves for this major military operation. My great-grandfather (an offspring of Macedonian emigrants himself) fought in this military theater as part of First Bulgarian Army under General Vladimir Stoychev. At least fact number 3 deserved a mention in this video.
@rekamud6635
@rekamud6635 2 жыл бұрын
Why did my Great Great Grandfather and Great Grandfather kill two Bulgarians each in the wars. There is a monument at Dojran of the now sin absolved Bulgarian Army, have you seen it?
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing these insights.
@RU-Aussie
@RU-Aussie Жыл бұрын
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@Bogdanec1.0
@Bogdanec1.0 Ай бұрын
This is simply not true which you are stating indeed there was till many macedonians who still were Bulgarians but this changed over the course of the war and 20% of the slavic population joined the macedonian partisans to liberate macedonia yes you did play an important role in liberting skopje but it's just that we on our own liberated other cities such as prilep,bitola etc they only cities you helped were strumica,skopje,kumanovo and stip the rest we did on ourselves. Macedonians did not like the Bulgarian occupation after a time and you'll actually see in the 3rd October in Skopje on Tsar Boris entering the city people stepping out and yelling we are macedonians not bulgarians. And no macedonian identity was no forcefully used so magically everyone was turned in it it was just the case for 10K people the rest did it without problem. Macedonian national concoiusness is a long process dating back to the 1870's WE ARE NOT BRAINWASHED.
@Anonymous-qx1vd
@Anonymous-qx1vd 2 жыл бұрын
Macedonia was Bulgarian and it's population was Bulgarian is it that hard to understand
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Over-simplified.
@hristostefanov8848
@hristostefanov8848 11 ай бұрын
​@@HistoryHustleAmerican, take a look at your invented 200-year history of colonization and do not interfere in foreign history. A country with 200 years of history, which history has a bigger holocaust for sure. How many Native Americans you knocked out
@mottom2657
@mottom2657 7 ай бұрын
@@hristostefanov8848 Stefan is Dutch, not American. You have already lost.
@hristostefanov8848
@hristostefanov8848 7 ай бұрын
@@mottom2657 Lol
@hristostefanov8848
@hristostefanov8848 7 ай бұрын
@@mottom2657 I can't believe. I lost
@TheDjtvi
@TheDjtvi 2 жыл бұрын
The vast majority of nowadays people in Macedonia is of Bulgarian descent, this is true even today, after more than 100 years ot greek, serb and british propaganda.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Propaganda?
@TheDjtvi
@TheDjtvi 2 жыл бұрын
@@HistoryHustle Brutal and fierce, western type
@rekamud6635
@rekamud6635 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheDjtvi can you link us to your source of the genetic analysis?
@TheDjtvi
@TheDjtvi 2 жыл бұрын
@@rekamud6635 are you a neo nazi? blood and honour supporter?
@RU-Aussie
@RU-Aussie Жыл бұрын
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@vaggelistsimatsidis9063
@vaggelistsimatsidis9063 2 жыл бұрын
Finally someone that talks about history with fact's and history
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
👍👍👍
@vaggelistsimatsidis9063
@vaggelistsimatsidis9063 2 жыл бұрын
@@HistoryHustle Make a video about the role of turkey in ww1 and ww2 and what she asked from allied forces to enter the war .
@mr.angelosonassis3069
@mr.angelosonassis3069 5 ай бұрын
The Macedonians were a partitioned people, divided by lines drawn by their enemies against their will. They fought in WWII for Macedonia, not for the occupying armies in which they were forced to serve after being arbitrarily conscripted by bands of guerillas.
@hristijanristeski2849
@hristijanristeski2849 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid thank you for sharing this information, note that all of macedonian partisans fought for a united macedonia : vardar,pirin, and aegean macedonia to be united, macedonia has different culture than its neighbours, similar but not same witch is the case for the entire balkans. Keep up the good work hoping on more true content for macedonia
@sleeper7271
@sleeper7271 2 жыл бұрын
Complete BS, those people were Bulgarians by all internal and international accounts
@serdradion4010
@serdradion4010 2 жыл бұрын
Macedonian partisans were political invention of Yugo communists in the IS Croatia, Bosnian part . They were close to zero numerous, some saboteurs. Vardar population was peaceful and loyal to the Bulgarian Army.
@77belts
@77belts 2 жыл бұрын
They fought for a macedonia that would join Bulgaria. Vmro was Bulgarian.
@hristijanristeski2849
@hristijanristeski2849 2 жыл бұрын
Because in ww1 and ww2 they were controled by bulgaria and they had to get bulgarian documents ect to be able to continue their lives
@77belts
@77belts 2 жыл бұрын
@@hristijanristeski2849 they were Bulgarian by ethnicity in the world wars and before 1944.
@TravisEdwards-y2y
@TravisEdwards-y2y Жыл бұрын
Glad I ran into your channel! Very interesting and educational!
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle Жыл бұрын
Awesome! Welcome to the channel.
@konstantinkostadinov6695
@konstantinkostadinov6695 Жыл бұрын
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@coling3957
@coling3957 2 жыл бұрын
Make Macedonia Great Again! :D
@lefterisgeorgiou4424
@lefterisgeorgiou4424 2 жыл бұрын
Thessaloniki, the capital of Macedonia Greece 🇬🇷 is Great!
@alkisvenetis1678
@alkisvenetis1678 2 жыл бұрын
Vardaska
@user-qz6hz9tv9n
@user-qz6hz9tv9n 2 жыл бұрын
@@lefterisgeorgiou4424 we love our solun🇲🇰
@GeoBBB123
@GeoBBB123 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-qz6hz9tv9n I prefer SUVs
@isajloskidarko
@isajloskidarko 2 жыл бұрын
Macedonia for the Macedonians
@guilherme8646
@guilherme8646 2 жыл бұрын
Why didn't the Bulgarians hand over the Jews for the Germans? Like, weren't they in the same alliance, fighting the same enemy and having similar ideologies?
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Hope to cover that in the future.
@77belts
@77belts 2 жыл бұрын
Because the Bulgarians didn't hate the Jews, and were a soft axis ally.
@guilherme8646
@guilherme8646 2 жыл бұрын
@V V Thanks
@TheDuchy-d3h
@TheDuchy-d3h 6 ай бұрын
​@@guilherme8646 they did, 7000 macedonian jews were handed over to the germans by bulgaria
@VikingTeddy
@VikingTeddy 2 жыл бұрын
This made me skim the wiki on Macedonia. I never knew what a fascinating, varied and intense history the region has. Guess I have some reading for tonight.
@NickStrife
@NickStrife 2 жыл бұрын
Macedonia on wiki might produce results about the real Macedonia though! 😂
@VikingTeddy
@VikingTeddy 2 жыл бұрын
@@NickStrife There's sections for the whole region and for different time periods. But wiki really isn't the place to learn anything but basics, but it's a good starting point :)
@NickStrife
@NickStrife 2 жыл бұрын
@@VikingTeddy No matter the period Macedonia is only one! 😉
@Moneo_Artaid
@Moneo_Artaid 2 жыл бұрын
The region yes it has rich history but the country? Nope , not at all
@SnaRi-dc1nl
@SnaRi-dc1nl 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah man, dont use wikipedia. You can just open any talk page from some macedonian article on wiki and you will see that they are flooded by edit wars, greeks and bulgarians constantly esiting the articles to push their views on things, sadly they are successful sometimes. If you wanna learn about macedonia why not go to the period of its inception. I recommend reading up on "the macedonian question" . There is a great deal of literature on it and its a great place to start
@gfg2846
@gfg2846 2 жыл бұрын
Misleading video about the ancient times should ve done more research about the region
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Please explain.
@gfg2846
@gfg2846 2 жыл бұрын
Well if we see a map of ancient macedonia as a kingdom almost all of it is in greece if we see a roman map of Macedonia you can see how they extended the region. The history that goes back till alexanders time is not true because of their slavic dna.The people that live in north Macedonia are mostly slavs who came long after Alexander's death. The reason they think of them self's as macedonians is because most of them think that their country is in Macedonia making them believe that they are ancestors of Alexander wich is not the case. Don't make the name fool you they have zero correlation to ancient macedonians in any way. Also don't call them "macedonians" because Macedonia is in greece and people who don't know about the topic can be easily mislead. I suggest you calling them north macedonians wich was the name that the prime ministers agreed on 2018. You make great videos but I think this one needed a bit more research
@gfg2846
@gfg2846 2 жыл бұрын
@@carlustin4034 unfortunately this video was very misleading to a lot of people he could have done more research and be more careful of what he sais
@andrejivanov8532
@andrejivanov8532 2 жыл бұрын
My grandfather was in the Partisans during WWII and he often told me about the cruelty and war crimes committed by the bulgarian "administrators" ( they claim they were only administrators ) in various area due to the population was not willing to be assimilated and forcibly made Bulgarians, especially the most infamous one was in Vatasha where bulgarian soldiers shoot 12 unarmed students + raping , cutting heads of the Partisans etc .. I think you should make a video regarding the war crimes committed by them so we make sure part of that history will not be forgotten. I liked the video overall but you should have included the Macedonian partisan movement led in Aegean Macedonia & Pirn Macedonia as well
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this.
@dobripvalov
@dobripvalov 2 жыл бұрын
The shooting in Vatasha was ordered by a local who, after the war, was captured by the Bulgarian authorities and sent to Yugoslavia. Yugoslavia gave him a death sentence. End of story.
@dobripvalov
@dobripvalov 2 жыл бұрын
Another thing, these "Bulgarian administrators" were in the vast majority locals. So it's actually better to call them Macedonian administrators. Also, many partisans were killed in Bulgaria proper, they did not receive better treatment than the partisans in Macedonia. And the partisans weren't killed beacuse they refused to be assimilated, they were killed because of their ideology. The majority of the population was already Bulgarian and the common people were ok. Bulgaria even gave many of them pensions. Out of all the Yugoslav states, Macedonia suffered the least casulties because the partisan activity was very low and the partisan activity was very low because the people just simply didn't have a problem with the administration.
@sasho888prm
@sasho888prm 2 жыл бұрын
The Bulgarian soldiers in WW2 had exactly the same job in the Macedonian region as they had in Bulgaria - to stop anyone who opposed the government.
@andrejivanov8532
@andrejivanov8532 2 жыл бұрын
@@dobripvalov No there wasn't there are actual proofs & footages of Bulgarian Parliament before then invasion of Yugoslavia as they celebrating the invasion of Macedonia ,WHCIH is a fact you can't ignore . No matter how much you deny that then historical facts speak for themselves
@health019
@health019 3 ай бұрын
The fact that Bulgaria is portrayed in such a bad light of the Balkans during ww2, when we -didn’t create groups like the chetniks or ustache -didn’t hold major grudges even after losing a prior world war -didn’t enmass persecute those occupied by us -and probably the biggest flex, didn’t deport our minorities Us Bulgarians deserved better. Being a shining light next to the evil of Germany, while Serbia committed disgusting war crimes, yet the west still favored them in the peace deal. Allowing them to take away our brothers from us and persecute them for another 50 years 😔
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 3 ай бұрын
I feel a lot of frustration here.
@health019
@health019 3 ай бұрын
It’s less of frustration and more of trying to repaint ourselves in a good light, it’s more of the idea that the west has tended to Serbia and Greece for their geography and what they bring to the table, at the direct neglect of Bulgaria , going as far as to turn Macedonians, our own brothers against us. So yeah, it is kind of frustrating when this stuff happens.
@health019
@health019 3 ай бұрын
*sorry for contradicting but yes it is frustrating
@health019
@health019 3 ай бұрын
If a it’s alright I’d like to share one more thing. The idea that Bulgarians are power hungry nationalists and want to control Thrace Macedonia and Istanbul are all lies made up by extremists on all sides. The modern Bulgarian simply wants to live a life, we know that we cannot come back to convince the Macedonians that they are Bulgarians anymore and so with that we have given up on our “expansionism” stuff like that really hasn’t been seen from Bulgaria since the First World War. The vast majority of Bulgaria simply wants to live now, there is no point fighting with the west to be recognized anymore. Our country is sad, and every time we try to move on and rebuild it we only get pushback from our neighbors. Let us live our lives we are not expansionists who want to dominate the Balkans , just people. After all, we are the republic of Bulgaria so stop acting like we are still the tsardom of Bulgaria .
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing.
@kostadinristeski1262
@kostadinristeski1262 2 жыл бұрын
Respect the Macedonians 🇲🇰
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Ok.
@-kr8206
@-kr8206 Жыл бұрын
I have always been interested in those аnti bulgarian politicians in Macedonia who cry at the end of their careers and say that they were always Bulgarians, strange and sad.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle Жыл бұрын
Please explain.
@patriotskodrustvo7699
@patriotskodrustvo7699 2 жыл бұрын
Macedonia for Macedonians🇲🇰⚫️🔴
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
I see..
@serdradion4010
@serdradion4010 2 жыл бұрын
And for the Bulgarian North Macedonians.
@deod116
@deod116 2 жыл бұрын
@@HistoryHustle this video is just the most histotical brainwash the greeks have told since they took over the region of southern macedonia. As you mentioned everyone sees our land as ”rightfully” theirs for the taking. Greeks, bulgars, serbs amoung others. Macedonian is one of the oldest languages in europe. Older than modern greek and was spoken before bulgarian. The name of makedon still has meaning in our language and means land of opium. Directly translated as Mak: opium e: is don: land. To say macedonians are slavs and greeks are macedonians is the most disrespectful thing to history of the region and its people. History poluted by greek nationalism and ego in fear that macedonians will want to be one again. Greetings from a southern macedonian, not a greek. Еден ден брача
@77belts
@77belts 2 жыл бұрын
Macedonians ain't even a majority in the region lol
@tatjanavelkova5814
@tatjanavelkova5814 4 ай бұрын
MAKEDONIJA E NA MAKEDONSKI NAROD ! ! !
@ΚυριακοςΔελιτζακης
@ΚυριακοςΔελιτζακης 10 күн бұрын
Για οσα ακουω❤δημοσιογραφε❤πολλα εφχαριστω❤
@steel4o
@steel4o 2 жыл бұрын
Partisans and communists were killed all over Bulgaria. According to the Yugoslav 1964 list, 350.000 Serbs were killed off as opposed to 7000 macedonians of which 3000 are killed by macedonian partisans as collaborators. Also don't forget that the remainder of those 4000 dead were not only killed in battle or shot next to a wall, but included all those who died of disease or in service to the Bulgarian army. Please do not skip Tito's atrocities in today's North Macedonia as they are akin to a cultural genocide.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Please explain.
@DimoGrozdan
@DimoGrozdan 2 жыл бұрын
Wtf he’s talking about 😁 90% of the video was about bulgaria and yugoslavia! How convenient this might be?!? I wonder how much they pay you guys to do videos like this???
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Who is they?
@DimoGrozdan
@DimoGrozdan 2 жыл бұрын
@@HistoryHustle That’s the questions you should answer not me… And if you were in Skopje why didn’t you visit the museum or the historical archives or just talk to some historian from Macedonia about WW2 before you make a video about it?!? Check your facts some of the things in it are absolute bs…. First before talking about the Macedonian partisans (you are saying yugoslavian partisans) you should know that 99% of them were members of IMRO, and to imply that IMRO is bulgarian organization without knowing IMRO history… it’s just pure travesty and ignorance. But put that aside… if you wanna make real video about Macedonia in WW2 talk to its people the common Macedonians and learn their history and you’ll find out the truth… don’t use Google you are just embarrassing yourself.
@77belts
@77belts 2 жыл бұрын
It was about Bulgaria and Yugoslavia because fyrom was created after the war
@77belts
@77belts 2 жыл бұрын
@@DimoGrozdan no one talks to fyrom historians because they are full of bs.vmro and regional Macedonians were Bulgarians before 1944
@DimoGrozdan
@DimoGrozdan 2 жыл бұрын
@@77belts It was liberated or “created” because there were 4 battalions with over 300.000 Macedonians fighting the fascist bulgarian armies in Macedonia. And when the Germans lost and the bulgarians were defeated, Bulgarian government decided to switch sides, like cowards like they always do…. That’s why! Facts!
@alexdrakopoulos8508
@alexdrakopoulos8508 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, great and informing video also thanks for mentioning that the people who are born in north Macedonia come from slavic tribes and not the ancient macedonians
@mkdpiperka6968
@mkdpiperka6968 2 жыл бұрын
Well no todays macedonians have Macedon DNA as the Hellenic macedons never left the lands that Macedonia has right now but instead they mixed with the local Slavs when the migration happened. That's why a lot of macedonians have Macedon DNA and less Slavic but the language is Slavic yes. The macedons were described by historians to have spoken a Hellenic language which wasn't Greek and it was it's own Hellenic language. If u look far back enough u can also see that the macedons were the first to settle greece and what is now northern Macedonia. What historians do is they take the religion that the macedons have and place the macedons in the same branch of culture as the Greeks. That would be like if i placed England as the same culture as Germany. That's why it's false to put the macedons in the same branch as the Greeks. Yes if u go far back enough both ancient macedonian and Greek are a part of the Indo European culture but it's a different branch within that culture. They were Hellenic but not Greek they spoke a seperate Hellenic language as I said.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
The discussion remains...
@alexdrakopoulos8508
@alexdrakopoulos8508 2 жыл бұрын
@@mkdpiperka6968 macedonians spoke the Doric dialect which is greek and the word hellen means greek, the word "greek" is a Roman word. Also the people living in the country called north macedonia are slavs and not originals. Also Alexander (not the great) who was born in Macedonia called himself philhellenic and philhellenic back then didnt mean that you were friendly to Greeks, it meant that you love your country. So even the Macedonian ancestors of Alexander called themselves greek. Also the first person to write down history (Herodotus) called macedonians greek and even the word macedonia and Alexander and philip are greek with greek meaning. They believed in the same gods, participated in the Olympic games, spread greek culture and Alexander even went as far to say that he's the son of zeus the strongest greek god. He was also an egoistic person so why would he spread the religion and generally customs of another country while being egoistic? Furthermore Alexander's teacher was greek, his role model was greek, generals and close friends greek and also Alexander called himself greek after the battle of granic river where he sent 300 shields saying "Alexander and the greeks (see? No discrimination between macedonians and greek) won against the persian army"
@mkdpiperka6968
@mkdpiperka6968 2 жыл бұрын
Well the greeks didnt call themselves greeks only the greek population living in italy started calling themselves greeks and when alexandar was alive he didnt call himself greek he was hellenic though and yes i can understand that macedons and greeks were pretty similar. I agree with most of what ur saying and i stand corected on some things but i want to correct u too brother. And also over 30% of the people living in north macedonia have primarily ancient macedonian dna whilst greeks living in greece are around 5% dominant ancient macedon dna.
@alexdrakopoulos8508
@alexdrakopoulos8508 2 жыл бұрын
@@mkdpiperka6968 Alexander didnt call himself greek because the word greek didnt exist then, what i ment to say is that he considered himself to be hellenic
@ivanmarkoski64
@ivanmarkoski64 27 күн бұрын
they were never told they are Bulgarian, they knew they were Bulgarians. Every major position was ruled by people born in the region of today's north macedonia. Pleaase check ur facts straights not by tito's history.
@Alexander29854
@Alexander29854 2 жыл бұрын
VARDARSKA NOT MACEDONIA
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
?
@Alexander29854
@Alexander29854 2 жыл бұрын
@@HistoryHustle Check the name of the area of Skopia in 1940
@RU-Aussie
@RU-Aussie Жыл бұрын
@@Alexander29854 Did King Otto first greek king from Austria tell you that? You know him. He made modern day Greece with a mixture of turks , Albanians ,Slavic people and others.
@bigsarge2085
@bigsarge2085 2 жыл бұрын
👍👍
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
😁
@mikiszezas2731
@mikiszezas2731 2 жыл бұрын
Macedonia is only one and greek.this is skopjie.alexander the great was not slave,he is a greek king
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Ok.
@Dac_DT_MKD
@Dac_DT_MKD 2 жыл бұрын
Ok, loud parrot
@mikiszezas2731
@mikiszezas2731 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dac_DT_MKD the truth hurts
@Dac_DT_MKD
@Dac_DT_MKD 2 жыл бұрын
@@mikiszezas2731 Indeed, the truth hurts so bad that you people became broken records, instead of fixing your economy. Instead of picking on us, try it with Turkey. Oh wait, they'll take your islands soon.
@mikiszezas2731
@mikiszezas2731 2 жыл бұрын
Have a look at the ancient macedonian coins in the museum. Are in GREEK LANGUAGE not in slave kyrrilic
@serdradion4010
@serdradion4010 2 жыл бұрын
Soon, it's to be expected the Revelation that North Macedonians are of the American origin, successors of some stayed Comanche tribe in the Europe. Must do is the N Macedonian Mount Rushmore with the 5th head of the 1st president Kiro Gligorov, and the N Macedonian Statue Of Liberty with jar of ajvar.
@Voyager759
@Voyager759 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing can beat Bulgarians' hysteria though! Didn't you hear Jesus was Bulgarian too?
@serdradion4010
@serdradion4010 2 жыл бұрын
@@Voyager759 So, " Bulgarians were tortured like the Jesus Christ himself ". Sorry about that sentiment.
@Voyager759
@Voyager759 2 жыл бұрын
@@serdradion4010 Too bad you didn't inherit his humility. That comment of yours reminds me of other dude though (rimes with littler), who your people so lovingly embraced!
@serdradion4010
@serdradion4010 2 жыл бұрын
@@Voyager759 Well, I'm sorry about all the bad things that happened to all of the nations in WW2. War is violence and things get out of the control fast. I'm trying to be just, not humble, we are here searching for the truth.
@Voyager759
@Voyager759 2 жыл бұрын
@@serdradion4010 And how you are being just? By mocking a whole nation? That's the problem with you Bulgarians! Even (for the sake of argument) your "truth" is the real truth, your aggressive and disrespectful behavior on social platforms, as well as among your own politicians and academics makes you the bad guys in this situation! You can disagree as much as you want with Macedonians (not North Macedonians!) but the way you go about only shows your own insecurity!
@ΚυριακοςΔελιτζακης
@ΚυριακοςΔελιτζακης 10 күн бұрын
❤να ξερεις απο τον παοπου μου κιρο δελιτζακη εχω θεια λιουπκα και τοννπατερα της πετρο δελιτζακη❤που εφυγαν κυνηγημενοι απο seavoειδομενη❤για βουλγαρια σοφια...η θεια μου αλαξε επιθετο σε πετροβα❤..απο τον παπου μου.χρηστο δοιτσινη matsikovoεχω την αδερφη του γιαγια μου ελεφθερια σαπουντζηsapouuntzijevaπου τωρα με τον αντρατης παπου μου θοδορο σαπουντζη εχουν πεθανει και θαφτηκαν στο gevgelije❤
@andrejjolevski2179
@andrejjolevski2179 2 жыл бұрын
Hello from Macedonia friend🇲🇰
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
👍
@77belts
@77belts 2 жыл бұрын
*north
@marotvorec
@marotvorec 2 жыл бұрын
@@77belts fyrom*
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