C Band Satellite LNB with 5G Filter

[@larrysmall3521]

The polarity marking on this LNBF is for the horizonal plane. Some LNBFs use vertical markings. If you don't get any signals check the polarity with the dish at its peaked position. The mark should point 90 degrees from the top of the dish. Also since it is electrical polarity switching the LNBF must be rotated to the exact point. Even a few degrees off will cause a significant loss of quality.

[@Nicholas_Chris]

All Ku Band LNBs have 4G LTE filter soon the new generation of Ku Band LNBs will have 5G filter like the C Band LNB you presented.

[@axltsnoc215]

Perfect to eliminate strong 5g interference for me

[@WiSeNhEiMeR-1369]

Thanks COOP ...

[@Nicholas_Chris]

At 2:06 the dielectric plate is for Russian C Band channels on Express AM7 at 40 East and Yamal 401 at 90 East satellite where all channels are circular. But for those satellites you need a C/Ku Band LNB since these satellites broadcast both C Band Circular and Ku Band linear transponders. Never understood why Russians use circular C Band while Asia, and America uses linear C Band like Ku Band.

[@NorthcoasterHobby]

I’m not sure either.

[@Nicholas_Chris]

@@NorthcoasterHobby When I had Facebook I was in the satellite group and they were mostly talking about FTA satellite TV and some had C Band dishes 2-3 meters. And South Eastern Europe is a great place to receive channels from Europe, Asia Middle East and Africa. They tested their satellite dishes for C Band and discovered that Russian and some African channels are broadcasting circular instead of linear.

[@NorthcoasterHobby]

@@Nicholas_Chris I wonder if a smaller dish could be used for circular C-Band reception, in the area of 4-6 feet.

[@Nicholas_Chris]

@@NorthcoasterHobby For example in Russia you can use a 100 cm dish for C Band on some of their satellites but a 120 cm is recommended. The bigger the better. Also in Pakistan a 130 cm dish will receive C Band channels on Paksat 38 East. But both russians and pakistans will recommend you a minimum 200 cm dish for C Band and also can receive other C and Ku Band satellites by adding extra LNBs on the dish if the distance is minimum 6 degrees between satellites.

[@NorthcoasterHobby]

@@Nicholas_Chris Definitely a bigger satellite dish is always better. With circular signals being more ‘compact’, someone could get away with a smaller dish I’d think. In North America Bell satellite services use circular KU signals and their dishes are in the 18-20 inch range (46-50 cm approx.), so a slightly smaller dish for circular C-Band makes sense.

[@Nicholas_Chris]

At 3:28 my Philips TV set with satellite tuner has 13 Volts for Vertical and 17 Volts for Horizontal. All my AMIKO receivers have 14 Volts output for Vertical Pol. and 19 Volts for Horizontal Pol. The advantage is when you use splitters that have satellite frequencies (47 - 2400 MHz), on my Philips TV the channels on Horizontal Pol don't have good signal and weak transponders can't receive them. So it is recommended not to use a splitter. While on my Amiko receivers I have no problems with Horizontal Pol. and can watch even the weak transponders. Your LNB is perferct for all satellite receivers and TVs with satellite tuners.

[@NorthcoasterHobby]

I’d love to have a TV with built in satellite tuner!

[@Nicholas_Chris]

@@NorthcoasterHobby In Europe most HDTVs have satellite tuner built in. All 4K TV sets have satellite tuner. There are countries where an OTA antenna is no longer needed like Germany, UK , Turkey all you need is a satellite dish (80 cm minimum size) and a satellite receiver or a TV with satellite tuner. But in UK and Germany they prefer to have both OTA antennas for DTV, DAB+, FM and satellite dishes. In Turkey and the rest of Middle East and North Africa they only use satellite dishes (Ku Band)

[@NorthcoasterHobby]

@@Nicholas_Chris I wish North America would adopt that model.

[@Nicholas_Chris]

@@NorthcoasterHobby TV's with satellite tuner and the OTA channels should be free on satellite. It would make easier for people especially those who live in rural areas. Instead of wondering what type of antenna you need since the distance is too far from the tower, a satellite dish will solve the problem. For example Germany, Austria, Switzerland, UK & Ireland, France, Italy, Romania, Ukraine, Russia, Pakistan, Turkey, Arab Countries all use satellite TV for both free to air and pay TV. In those countries you don't need an OTA antenna unless you can't install a satellite dish for many reasons

[@justaviewerortwo2924]

I noticed the scale rings are two different size I wonder if this makes a difference as I used my old 80s scaler ring with my existing Titanium Lnb

[@NorthcoasterHobby]

Interestingly enough I did the same thing, mounting a new LNB in the original old scalar ring; didn’t seem to make a difference at all!📡📡

[@omsingharjit]

How that plate change into circular Polarization

[@NorthcoasterHobby]

Not exactly sure, but it converts circular signals into linear polarized (horizontal or vertical, depending on the orientation of the dielectric plate I'd assume). The plate orients the incoming signal to the same plane (H or L) of the tiny antenna in the LNB, making circular signals receivable by the linear LNB. But it will diminish the performance of your dish (pretty much makes the dish behave like its half the size), so it probably would be best to use with a large dish to begin with. But there's really no FTA in-the-clear circular polarized signals to get anyways. They are all encrypted.

[@DXingSlovenija]

Why do you need a special plate for circular polarization, isnt circular just Vertical + horizontal polarization which means you can receive it eather with vertical or horizontal lnb

[@NorthcoasterHobby]

The plate is included but isn’t really used. There are very few, if any circular signals on C-Band, at least in North America.

[@DXingSlovenija]

@@NorthcoasterHobby yes, I know but if you get some, do you need that plate or can you receive circular signals without it?

[@NorthcoasterHobby]

@@DXingSlovenija you’d probably need to use it for proper reception.

[@SundayOwens]

awesome

[@NorthcoasterHobby]

Thanks for watching!

[@davidl.4408]

Just curious.. How did Titanium Satellite ship it? Via US Postal Service, or via UPS? I had a not-so-pleasant experience ordering equipment from them in the past. The equipment I ordered was shipped via Fedex. Fedex delivered it with no issues, and then a week or so later an invoice came in the mail from Fedex for $50 of customs clearance and HST. US Postal Service usually comes through with no issues at all... Canada Post Delivers, and there are no surprise invoices in the mail for customs clearance.

[@NorthcoasterHobby]

It was shipped USPS. I bought it on eBay.

[@davidl.4408]

@@NorthcoasterHobby Thumbs up on the USPS shipping... I've been bitten by UPS and Fedex customs clearance 'surprise' invoices.. Back to the LNB topic - I wonder how well that C-Band LNB will work on a mini-BUD situation.

[@xosemartinez1131]

I have same identical lnb works for one year and failed reception same pixilation.

[@NorthcoasterHobby]

It could be that another block of C band is now being used for 5G. The filter’s band pass may not be narrow enough. A blue filter (4-4.2 GHz band pass) may be needed.

[@ianuragaggarwal]

Shouldn't LO frequency also change by 100Mhz?

[@NorthcoasterHobby]

There just won't be any channels on the lower frequencies anymore.

[@davidkurzdorfer6402]

Any chance of getting a c / ku combo feed show us how they work on big dishes in old days there was Chappell colrotot c ku ....but things have changed from old analog days

[@NorthcoasterHobby]

I need to buy one, I’ll see what I can do.

[@donbest5024]

I still use these old C ku lnbs on some of my digital receivers,they work great but you have to combine the c ku through switch into receiver and have a way to power the servo motor to flip the polarity.

[@genericdude6551]

I have a C138. Eastern side of the arc is fine but the western arc is bad. It does not block all 5G interference.

[@titaniumsatellite4156]

C138 and C238 "Performance Plus" models are a recent upgrade from the standard C138 and C238 models to increase the rejection of 5g N78 and N77Low Band (below 3800MHz) 5g interference. These are referred to as 5G RED FILTERS and pass 3800 - 4200 MHz from the satellite and reject the interference below 3800 MHz. In the past few months, we are observing more 5G N77 High Band Signals testing as the providers roll out the new band for the December 31st implementation launch. The 5G BLUE FILTERS will be available in Q1 2024 and provide 5G N77 Low and High band filtering. The Blue Filer LNBFs will pass only 4000 - 4200 MHz from the satellite and reject interference and signals below 3800 MHz.

[@binoyvishnu.]

Is it available in India?

[@NorthcoasterHobby]

I bought it on eBay.

[@susanthadeepale856]

How much is it

[@NorthcoasterHobby]

I paid $85 USD, plus shipping, as I said at the beginning of the video. Thanks for watching!

[@shabir_qadri]

एशिया set 105 डिग्री ?

[@NorthcoasterHobby]

मैं वह उपग्रह प्राप्त नहीं कर सकता।

[@tmastersat]

I still cant beleive they let them use cband for phones

[@NorthcoasterHobby]

Yes, it’s unfortunate.

[@robertheintz8017]

If you donate enough money to a congressman, this is very little they wouldn't do to stay in power.

[@freedthkhaber4320]

i am from india,lnb

[@志偉賴]

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[@志偉賴]

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[@lyricssongstatus7698]

Sk.thakor....📡