Northern Crusades | The Swedish Crusades in Finland.

[@quillinkhistory9539]

See the whole series at kzbin.info/www/bejne/gIvRdqKjpdtmgbM Learn about the Wendish Crusade at kzbin.info/www/bejne/jaWtlqquf9ZmeJo&index Learn about the History of Charlemagne here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eXirf4euab-bY9k

[@ThisisBarris]

Great stuff Quill! I love learning about this lesser known (at least to me) part of history

[@quillinkhistory9539]

Thx Barris! Im kind of feeling the same way about how your channel highlights less known parts of French history. Btw, did you see my comment regarding Napoleon the third? :)

[@holdyerblobsaloft]

As a Finn, I've never heard of a castle called Haikonen. There is, however, an old fortified hill called Hakoinen (Haga borg in Swedish) which was largely abandoned in the 1300s after Novgorodian attacks. Is this the one you were referring to?

[@christofferbonnet8127]

Novgorod was in war with Sweden very much. But idk

[@holdyerblobsaloft]

@@christofferbonnet8127 Never said they weren't?

[@christofferbonnet8127]

@@holdyerblobsaloft I don’t want to be a bully ok Im just saying that you are saying is true and I wonder same thing.

[@peacefulmt244]

A quick google search showed that Haikonen is an island in Finland and im guessing it was most likely a fort on that island that got destroyed during a war

[@granola661]

​@finnicpatriot6399Do you know what the narrator is talking about when mentioning haikonen then? And its also weird he didnt mention Tavasteborgh (hämeen linna) that was started by Birger Jarl during 1250s crusade

[@timiketola8845]

The castle you are mentioning is called Hakoinen not Haikonen. Also how do you figure it was an old Finnish viking castle? There were really no Finnish vikings to speak of, and I don't think Swedish vikings ever wandered that far inland let alone built castles.

[@quillinkhistory9539]

Thanks for the correction. In hind-sight I agree with you that the term "Viking castle" not is the most accurate term to be using since there were no(what we know of) vikings in Finland. The reason I used it was because i coulden't find any better word when I wrote the script.

[@pyromorph6540]

Many Finns had the profession of a Viking though...

[@lyrigageforge3259]

@@quillinkhistory9539 Correct term is Hill Fort or Castle Hill - but it refers to fortified hill - not a castle - there is difference there - because it really would have been naturally very defend-able very high solid rock hill with some fortified parts. And those were most certainly built by Finns against namely Vikings and Novgorodians. There used to be over 100 such locations in Finland, generally along side rivers. And the locals would vanish up on those hills to defend themselves if an attack was imminent. The thing is that Vikings also traded with Finns - so basically - they used two ship types. The wider ships that were for trading and the 'dragon headed' narrower war ships - so one could tell what was up by the ship type. And Finns would have this system of fire beacons to be lit on high points all along up the rivers when and if a war ship was spotted arriving. Yes some random areas had some Swedish speaking settlements and in some trading places there would have been a mix - but that really was just on very coast line to start with. As they said - Finns weren't Vikings. But we did have sometimes similar 'habits' say if they attacked us - the Finns would attack back. At least that is the jest of the legends and even sagas from that time.

[@okkimgreenhead6554]

There was no real Vikings that was Swedish,Finnish,Norse or Rus. They all had boats,and made piracy at sea in some point of history. The Church has manipulated these stories,about the enemy "The free pagan people"

[@Seer_Of_The_Woodlands]

Kauan eläköön vanhat jumaltat, Ukko meitä siunatkoon ja Väinämöinen meitä neuvokoon. Long live the old gods, Ukko bless us and Väinämöinen advise us.

[@gegagegov8715]

This channel deserve more subscribers

[@quillinkhistory9539]

Many Thanks Gega! ❤️

[@fleadoggreen9062]

Pretty cool , I also like how the art work is, the background music isn’t in my face , and ur words are nice and clear, easy to hear !! Thanks

[@Anttimation]

Excellent! Thanks for covering this subject. Look forward to more.

[@quillinkhistory9539]

Happy to hear you liked it my friend :)

[@Anttimation]

@@quillinkhistory9539 I just watched this again a couple of times, still great work. I'm working on a video on the same topic, wanting to make sure the content isn't just a copy of this, haha.

[@tamerofhorses2200]

The date of Erik's alleged crusade should've been 1156 not 1556 as it's displayed in the video, should it not ?

[@quillinkhistory9539]

Omg, that typo :( Thx for pointing it out!

[@andersbjorkman8666]

Thanks man :D Tack så mycket!!

[@quillinkhistory9539]

Tack för den snälla kommentaren. Nyfiken, har du just hittat min kanal eller har du varit en följare länge? :)

[@Ratamahatta12345]

4:51 Dannebrog falling from the sky during the Battle of Lindanise, 15 June 1219. This has nothing to do with either Sweden or Finland, but rather Denmark and Estonia

[@quillinkhistory9539]

I know the painting is not depicting the Finnish crusade and I mainly used it since it was in the public domain.

[@ancientwarrior3482]

Make Karjala Finnish again

[@quillinkhistory9539]

Make Finland Swedish again 🇫🇮💕🇸🇪

[@saarinenj1]

@@quillinkhistory9539 Fuck off. Karjala is part of Finland and will always be. We aren't afraid of Russia and Sweden.

[@joonte1010]

@@saarinenj1 karjala was part of Finland thanks to Birger Jarl and the swedish conquest of it, historically they were closer to Novgorodians and often allies with them in their raids against finnic tribes.

[@heikkisallinen9012]

@@joonte1010 They also rebelled against their Slavic overlords already at 13th century. And lastly in 1920s. I think they mostly desired for self-determination.

[@joonte1010]

@@heikkisallinen9012 Karelians are very mixed with mongoloids too, more so than mainland Finland, they had alot of horse archers, which function well when mounted swedish knights charged them. They had very similar tactics to that of huns and mongols, but to weak of an army to withstand the swedish invasion force under Birger Jarl.

[@AncientAccounts]

Thus was so great! I never heard about this, you are also immune to the dislikes that people do when a premiere is announced!, where do you get your sfx?

[@quillinkhistory9539]

Hi man! Happy that you liked it. With sfx, are meaning my special effects? :)

[@AncientAccounts]

Quill & Ink History I meant the sound effects

[@quillinkhistory9539]

@@AncientAccounts The first soundtrack I'm using is Magical forest by Kevin Macleod and the other one is called Epic Fantasy Battle which I bought from Audio jungle. audiojungle.net/item/epic-fantasy-game/22191674

[@historicalminds6812]

Cool do you you think you’ll cover more things about the crusades? Particularly those within Europe?

[@quillinkhistory9539]

Yes, I'm planning to do some videos on the crusades carried out by Swedes and Danes such as King Valdemar and Bishop Absalon's conquests as well as Swedens failed crusades against Russia. :)

[@timomastosalo]

I've understood there was not yet Swedish speaking people in the Finnish coast before the 11th century, that 1st crusade or conquest. Namely there were already Christians in Western Finland, mainly around Pori (Björneborg), where there are place names deriving from St. Olaf's name (like Ulvila). It was a time when saints were important in Christianity, so places were named after them all over Europe. The coastal Swedish speaking habitation was born between that 11th and the 14th century. There had been contacts before, especially when the whole Western Finnish was born as a mixture of some Scandinavians and the local Finns already before the Viking Age. Namely they brought even the agriculture to Finland, but where yet such small groups, that they assimilated and became Finnish speakers. But they affected the intonation and consonants of Western Finnish, namely palatalized consonants disappeared from the western Finnish and sh from all the dialects. And Western Finnish intonation is very ckose to Icelandic, so it's likely close to ancient (pre-)Viking accent.

[@timomastosalo]

Like the Bishop Henry wasn't killed by a pagan, but a Christian. Because the bishop had eaten from the winter stores of the peasant, which were meager anyway. He ended up in such a desperate situation, he went for a revenge. He killed the bishop with an axe, which sounds very Finnish. I think he was condemned to death, or at least lifetime in prison - a murder is murder anyway, and bishop was a big deal. But the bishop's not so Christian act was not punished, I understand.

[@heikkisallinen9012]

@@timomastosalo I remember reading that in the older versions of the legend and the dirge about the murder of Bishop Henry, Lalli used a sword, which was a weapon of exclusively higher social classes in Finnish tribal society. In all versions, Lalli had a servant with him. In some version Lalli also lived in hiding for the remainder of his days, never caught by anyone or 'the wrath of God' as the well-known version goes. 'Lalli', in ancient Finnish, was one of the many euphemisms used for the bear, the most sacred and powerful creature of the ancient animalistic belief of the Finns, most likely associated with the higher classes of Society. I doubt Lalli was some random peasant with Ill judgement and loss of morals like the Catholic propaganda had him smeared. He was most likely a strong community leader , a wealthy landowner atleast, who saw the new organized religion and the Swedish crown as a threat to his position. Of which he was right. Both Catholic church and Swedish settlers sponsored by the king, ruined the independent way of life the Finns had had.

[@timomastosalo]

@@heikkisallinen9012 Lalli was likely Christian too. Christianity was in Finland before Henrik: it started as a St. Olof cult. The Saint cults were common in those days. That Olof was a King of Norway, leader of the Christians in the Nordic lands. There are many names in the Pori area deriving from the name Olaf - like Ulvila. The incident between the Bishop HEnri and Lalli started from Henrik eating from Lalli's winter storage. So it was not very caring move from Henrik - not much like 'love your fellow man. Lali's family faced a hard winter. He deemed the deed worth a murder, Henrik must''ve looked like a thief traitor. And of course the Swedish and Catholic leaders used it for the power struggles in a country where they just had got a foothold. But God had started his work in Finland before this bishop. The high ones in any institute have seldom listened God: they usually seek for power for themselves. But in God's Kingdom the power is always with God - has been, is now, and will be. The biggest opposition to that, are the people who want to be leading the church without listening to God. Like the Sadducees tried to prove his theology was wrong, Pharisees wanted Jesus crucified. That's how the religious leaders saw Jesus. It was the weak in the society, the burdened workers and oppressed poor, who heard his message. He's on the side of the weak. He wants justice for them. And he will arrange that.

[@susanpower-q5q]

Two Swedish Kings Eric the Holy and Erik Erikson help to convert Finland video 1/30 beautiful painting where is it? 1171 AD Letter Pope Alexander III to Swedish Bishops complains about Finns Haikonen Castle and Pope Gregorious IX who calls for 1237 Crusade Thank you for your beautiful video and God Bless Finland this Christmas Eve which is also Sunday this year

[@historicalminds6812]

Oh wow will definitely check this out!

[@quillinkhistory9539]

I hope you will like it :)

[@marciocardozo9039]

Great Video!!! He speaks in a swedish accent or am I crazy?

[@quillinkhistory9539]

Thankyou, and no your not crazy. I am swedish :)

[@aarfcrw-bx7n]

Finlands shoreline has not been inhabited by swedish speakers sense the viking age. Stop the misinformation.

[@okkimgreenhead6554]

The misinformstion came from Colonization. But it is clear that most of the Northern Fenno Scandinavia existed. These Kven/Kainuulaiset and Samis lived in Norway/Sweden being part of the Finnougrian people living as one of the Native People of Europe. How Germanic/Latin (Swedish/Norwegian) languages evolved was through raids, assimilation and colonization. Also the Church in power was leading, this for the sake of JudeoChristianity to overtake what was "Pagan" Europe. Though it's a name made up by them, so where the names made up by the same Colonizators about who lived here before.

[@vikipoyta]

eric the holy was king in the 1100s so I doubt his first crusade was in 1556. 1156 maybe.

[@vikipoyta]

oh yeah you mentioned 12th century so your graphic is just off

[@thathistoryiscoolguy]

Great!

[@Alvaro_Litti]

It was about power, not spreading religion and history is always written by the victors or those they favour the most.

[@noahtylerpritchett2682]

Gotta admit the pagans were badass in trying to keep their culture.

[@anttityykila9384]

Many swedish bishops lost theyr head...

[@Spindacre]

Nonetheless, Finns were made Christian. :-)

[@duhni4551]

@@Spindacre are we really? =D

[@Spindacre]

@@duhni4551 Yes.

[@duhni4551]

@@Spindacre There i was thinking that most people don't really care about any gods in here =)

[@Spindacre]

@Finnish Guy You were converted. Get over it.

[@heikkisallinen9012]

I've heard theories that the so called First Crusade to Finland Proper was actually not a military campaign ( atleast one that saw much fighting ) for the natives already having very close ties to Svealand culturally and being christian and all. However the inland Tavastians did give a great deal of fight in the second crusade, as you also mentioned. Who knows, perhaps they had even repulsed the Swedish incursion had they not recently fought with Karelians and Novgorodians as the Novgorodian chronicles imply. The largest known iron age hillfort in Finland, Rapola ( which only has 1% of it's interior excavated ), yet is still considered the richest cultural historical area in Finland, and the largest iron age trading post,Vanaja, mentioned most likely as "town of Vanai" in Novgorodian chronicles have both been discovered in Häme ( Tavastia ). But still either Swedish or Novgorodian conquest would have befallen upon Häme ( Tavastia ) eventually. pre-Swedish Finland probably didn't have kingdoms like the Christian Scandinavia unlike Finnish national romantic revisionism tried to prove, but Tavastia and Finland proper weren't probably that far from the societies of viking age Scandinavian petty kingdoms. The text is probably not structured as best as it could, but I think you get the point . . .

[@finnwraith5319]

Were those natives close to Svealand Finns or were they Swedes (or other Scandinavians) who happened to be in what is modern day Finland. There may have been Viking settelments in Finland en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Finland#Finland_under_Swedish_rule

[@finnwraith5319]

Just like there are Swedish speakers in Finland today and there were more of them before (or at least they were a higher percentage of the population) its been at least argued that there have been Swedes in Finland way before colonialism so then could have the people who were close to the Swedes have been Swedes themselves en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish-speaking_population_of_Finland#History

[@heikkisallinen9012]

@@finnwraith5319 Most likely if the ties with Svealand were already so close in the late iron age / viking age, there probably was some Swedish settlement from Svealand ( And probably Finnish settlement in Svealand or atleast North from it in todays Västerbotten and Norrland by Kvens or other Finnish tribes ? ) . On the other hand, by my knowledge, archeological findings and literal sources don't support there being Viking colonisation like in today's British isles or by the river Volga.

[@heikkisallinen9012]

@@finnwraith5319 Swedish Viking trade posts in Finland have already been archeological proven. And there was respectively Finnish settlement already before Viking age in Sweden, all the way to the very heartlands of Svea, the Mälaren valley. Also archeolohically proven. They found several graves with Merovingian Finnish and Permian style jewellery made from local iron ore.

[@pyromorph6540]

I appreciate this video my Man, Would be cool if you included more details about the Clans and the uprisings, also many people have an idea that Finns were an absolute 2nd class people, but this wasnt the case until 1600s. Sweden didnt really "dominate" the Finns the way it sounds when you use the term.

[@tudor737]

Finland will be a disputed territory between Sweden and Russia after a short time. Your accent sound swedish.

[@quillinkhistory9539]

Around what time are you referring to? :)

[@tudor737]

later of this time

[@quillinkhistory9539]

@@tudor737 Also, yes I am indeed Swedish :)

[@tudor737]

xv century

[@Gretel1236]

@31 03 Do u want a taste of Swedish steel?

[@grandcommander1140]

Saint Eric, also known as Eric the Holy isn't mythical, we have his remains at the Uppsala Cathedral, which have been proven genuine.

[@WitcherGerd]

Bollocks to Christians Glory to pagans

[@Seer_Of_The_Woodlands]

otherwise a very good video. . . but down swedish power.. 8/10.

[@moisuomi]

So much fake in this video

[@ARMSCOF]

tää tyyppi on kai hurri joten en ihmettele hurrit suorastaan pelkäävät sitä jos suomi saavuttaisi jotain hienoa ja merkittävää

[@joonte1010]

You are fake, Finland as a nation is a fake creation that shouldnt exist. Only as a province under Sweden. Ni är öst svenskar.

[@christofferbonnet8127]

So Finns did exist just that they were tribs? And so many Swedish and Finish people are realeted to them? AWESOME I already love this channel! Love from Sweden!

[@duhni4551]

Dude, Finns have existed over 11 000 years and there has been on off habitation over 20 000 years =D Finland didn't exist however as our country was divided in different regional rules, you could sort of compare it to feudal China in that sense, warlords ruling different areas without any centralized power.

[@christofferbonnet8127]

@@duhni4551 True It’s same with Sweden. Sweden was a German tribe called Swedes Swedes have exist long before the Finnish tribes. But they always had war against each other because they wanted to be leaders or something else. But it took long time before it became a civilization that called Sweden(Same with Finland). I have read in school or somewhere else that Sami came before us. So that is making me thinking that the Sami people moved to the finish area and lived there until the Swedish people came to Finland around 1100 years ago. So basically if I right have Finland existed the longest or shortest time in the Nordic. But Sweden was also a tribe long ago called Swedes but they were before Finland to make a working civilization. It was a very long time ago so no one knows exactly how it started. But idk Maybe you know?

[@duhni4551]

@@christofferbonnet8127 Sami people came about 5000 years ago, while Sweden and Finland have both been populated roughly 11 000 years. There were no permanent habitation before glacial moved away. What comes to German tribes, Finns used to be Baltic tribes, we didn't land here from sky =D Define working civilization. I mean Finland did have multiple regional rules during those times, it would have been quite hard to form central government in a land that was (and still is) larger country than Germany geographically, having roughly 1000 000 population scattered all over it =) Even Sweden failed at that, Swedish Kings were never able to actually centralize the rule in Finland because most of the people were living literally in middle of nowhere and every village had their own ways they followed.

[@andreasaltmark8662]

Which is big myth that never happened.