Northrop Grumman 50mm gun for NGCV

[@Vamavid]

"Northrop Grumman, we care" Kinda like those parody ads from the Robocop movie.

[@robotbjorn4952]

Yes! Reminded me of mgs4.

[@sim9199]

we make weapons that kill people, we sell death and destruction, but we care

[@wino0000006]

Bushmaster - the final word in auto security. No embarrassing alarm noise, no need to bother the police. And it won't even run down your battery! BUSHMASTER LETHAL RESPONSE.

[@Vamavid]

@@Horsemanray But think of all the people alive today because those F14s didnt drop bombs on their heads. Glass half full?

[@savagex466-qt1io]

This is what we need to put down Robocop. Remember when he got hit with the .50cal ? So cool

[@thebiggamaster]

In a couple of years: Today we are introducing our 120mm chain gun. Minor upscales will help our lethality

[@trezle4547]

+ 8 inch tank gun

[@thebiggamaster]

@@darthspeaks6451 just a general statement for a laugh

[@mrlo4ding475]

That would delete a person xD

[@cenobitecyborgkratch9669]

@@darthspeaks6451 Chinese meat

[@secondlayer7898]

@logicbomb007 two ships in WW II had 460mm autoloaded guns

[@mr.l6615]

Next year, the newest bestest "60" mm gun!

[@MrChickennugget360]

considering that the M242 Bushmaster this is being developed to replace was fielded in the 1980s not likely.

[@werewally3156]

"Chain driven, electric motor driven.....capability." Hell i dont know how it works, it just does.

[@321fightson]

@spikedpsycho thanks for the clear & simple explanation. I was not sure what a chain gun was (heard the term b4 but didn't know what that meant) so this made it easy to understand.

[@tuanphongnguyen6525]

@spikedpsycho quick question, what's the maximum firing capability of, let's say a 25mm chain gun Bushmaster, on an independent platform when it relies on electricity

[@tuanphongnguyen6525]

@spikedpsycho wow 200rpm on a big caliber gun to me is ridiculous as demonstrated in that video. Then I would imagine the 50mm gun has some serious firepower when mounted on a mobile vehicle.

[@ryanlavallie4065]

Salesman slaps the outer casing of the gun: “you could buy a middle school for the price of one of these bad boys”

[@MFurey]

Good one.

[@petekdemircioglu]

Maybe one day when the circumstances are reliable but not today.Too many enemies -> constant targeting. Too late to educate them…

[@deedee4531]

Conceal and carry version is now available for citizens of Portland

[@arieltraasdahl-xh6ri]

Maine sounds pretty gangster.

[@hamedsabet5380]

Another piece of Art & cadillac Engineering From Great Northrop Grumman I love that. How lucky are the engineers and technicians of this company.

[@trespire]

It is a work of art. How it will be put to use is up to the moral convictions of the executive branch and discipline of those who wield such power. The design prowess and precision manufacturing looks amazing.

[@Lilmickcrocodiledundee0001]

We make the rounds for these bad boy's

[@brianingle7535]

I was in Bradley's when I was in the Army. The M242 is an excellent weapon for what it was. This monster here though.....this will put some truly serious power in the hands of the infantry......makes me tingle this does.

[@Nunyabizn3ss]

An Ingle tingle?

[@danielsnook7362]

This thing will probably End the fight before it starts

[@werewally3156]

All a chain gun is, is a miniature electric motor driven, reciprocating bullet disassembly line. Like he said, any bullet that fails to disassemble is simply rejected in favor of subsequent bullets.

[@ChickenPermissionOG]

no such thing as a chain gun.

[@sebayangaming]

@@ChickenPermissionOG chain gun is when you unable to use the ammo as a belt due to it large size

[@PBMS123]

@@ChickenPermissionOG huh?

[@ChickenPermissionOG]

@@sebayangaming It uses cartridges on a belt loader. It doesn't shoot chains.

[@EchoSigma6]

That 50mm reminds me of a .300 blackout on steroids.

[@gidb]

same looks like a 5.56 to a BLK out

[@TheTmshuman]

Thought the same. Just a bunch of Champagne drinkin wildcatters.

[@tHeWasTeDYouTh]

can't wait until we get a 155mm chain gun to be used in an artillery system for machinegun like artillery

[@henriquefern67]

By 2050 maybe

[@sameerthakur720]

Why 155? Why not a 203 mm gun like the old M110

[@reallyhappenings5597]

that would have already been developed if not for the fact that artillery has to be re-aimed after each recoil event

[@sameerthakur720]

@@reallyhappenings5597 These comments are sarcasm...not meant to be taken seriously.

[@TheMrPeteChannel]

@@sameerthakur720 25 years ago no one would thought of a 50mm chain gun for an AFV. 40mm tops. I imagine there maybe a chain gun in the 100mm area eventually.

[@joechang8696]

can we get it with a compatible mount to the F-350 bed? or do we need to trade up to the 450?

[@redjellonian8126]

sorry, only compatible with golf carts.

[@DollyRanch]

The FBI's BearCat's are F-550s, and the NGCV mock ups make that vehicle look like a Corolla, so you may need to think a little bigger

[@ViolentKisses87]

Cybertruck for the power demands would be better.

[@joechang8696]

logicbomb007 perhaps there will be a low velocity model for those of us who can’t trade up, and don’t have a hard target requirement

[@robertestevan9460]

More likely a 550 that has dually tires.💥

[@resolute123]

Engineers be like "shit, where are we gonna fit the extra ammo on the vehicle?"

[@davidreinhart373]

That's exactly what i thought until they showed that the ammo length is basically the same as the 35mm they just got rid of the necked down design. So the ammunition shouldn't take up more volume. It is still bigger than the 25mm in use right now but if you want to use air burst ammo that also caries enough explosive to be effective you would need to scale up to at least the 35mm. So why not make it 50mm if you would not use the volume around the 35mm projectile anyway. Although I think they should make it telescoped caseless ammunition while they are at it, so that it's even more space effective and so that they don't have to carry around empty cases.

[@resolute123]

@@davidreinhart373 Cool. Someone at NG is thinking.

[@resolute123]

@QuakerOats Yes and equally a valid question too in the real world.

[@susandefelice5509]

I hate that reference so much... but good one nonetheless

[@ArmorKingEmir]

"gun and ammunition work together" you dont say

[@robotbjorn4952]

I've got a brilliant idea for a 51mm gun.

[@MrStevenWolfe]

-Grins in Imperial Guard-

[@Humster]

Just in case ppl didn't notice, he was *bam* by a Commissar.

[@battleoid2411]

@@Humster You dare to use the incorrect term guardsman? That is Heresy! *BLAM*

[@gunfuego]

Laughs in Eldar.

[@aguardsman9862]

Glorious DAKKA!

[@modulo3664]

when your squad leader tells you to "get on the 50"

[@SayakMajumder]

XD

[@richardracine8437]

I may need one of these to try out the next time I go to the range.

[@tontoncabais7143]

Freedom!

[@travisthornton7614]

The shoulder strap is missing. The shinny red button is perfect I'm sold.

[@TheFlutecart]

That system could make a ships journey through the Straights of Hormuz a bit more relaxing.

[@thepreserver83]

Just munt an Bofors 57 mm.

[@joshuacalvert4917]

This is what the Military Industrial Complex looks like!

[@johnfranktullo3463]

Keeps asswipes like u safe

[@alohah2507]

If you don't like to stand behind our soldiers, feel free to stand in front of them.

[@ReallyFarFarAway]

💥 FANTASTIC 💥

[@petekdemircioglu]

Great engineering! 👏👏👏

[@nathanpuffenbarger5423]

So reliable LOL That's funny right there.. We had 2 25mm chainguns on our ship and they would ALWAYS jam after about 40 rounds!

[@rboes208]

That's awesome, would the chain get jammed or would the motor stop working?

[@nathanpuffenbarger5423]

@@rboes208 Typically the chain mechanism would jam because there was a bunch of grease packed in there for lubrication and that operates the loading mech. the sear, and a few other things. So i'm not sure of the exact cause because that was a gunners job to fix but yes it was something in that chain mechanism.. They were crazy to shoot though the muzzle blast felt like you were getting punched in the face after each shot.

[@AdrianDucao]

i find this 50mm gun a symbol of FREEDOM!

[@zhangbaweiba9033]

And democracy .

[@michaelholthaus2207]

Just think the terrorists that attacked the world trade center, would be able to get more than one of these.

[@WanderingShadow100]

What about a 100mm round from the Russians. Do you also find it as freedom ?

[@AdrianDucao]

@@WanderingShadow100 IT'S CALLED FREEDOM!

[@Tesla34000]

I like the idea here... they are designing new round with integration on turrets in mind.. for example 57mm for the S-60 is kind of overkill.. huge muzzle energy but comes with a lot of negatives in terms of rate of fire, number of projectiles in the system, feeding mechanism complexity, huge recoil energies etc.. Concept of this round allows to retain more than enough punching power but with a better characteristics of integration than the 57mm has.. It is much more expencive and time consuming way but I think better way. Good job!

[@marshallgiuffria366]

I would like to see the 10000 rounds Ran through it, the durability test video. Please let me know when yall post the video.

[@peterkin1010]

Now that's interesting. I haven't come across such a large calibre automatic cannon since the Russian 57mm S-60. I really think Noethrpp-Grumman could be onto something here...

[@concernedaussie1330]

Lets see.

[@Austin-cx2xe]

S-60 is not a chain gun. It’s hardly an autocannon. It uses old 1960s technology because it’s clip fed you have to feed it with clips don’t compare the 2

[@timothye.trevithick4011]

Quite impressive 👏.

[@jimmywrangles]

This guy...right here, is why we can't have nice things.

[@scottpiette]

Looks very good...

[@UltraNyan]

Damn this thing need a proper stock and a scope rail.

[@ashersolomon9560]

In the next few years we are gonna see some new awesome armoured fighting vehicles

[@scottcraig1047]

Hughes Aircraft was the original designer of the chain gun.

[@johnpettibone3774]

In love and war...size does matter.😉

[@321fightson]

lol

[@theimmortal4718]

I can't even imagine the hulk it would take take to pull the feeder from that huge reciever

[@GuyParody]

Getting closer to War Hammer 40K

[@nunyabznss5866]

Awesome 👍

[@diwitdharpatitripathi6782]

Bush master chain gun with the 50 mm gun . Pounding

[@Alsayid]

What was the gun in the middle? And how does the Apache gun get away with being so small? Do they have less powerful cartridges for it than a 30mm that would be mounted on an IFV?

[@briansmithwins]

Apache gun shells are lower velocity so a smaller gun works ok.

[@cenobitecyborgkratch9669]

I love it!

[@timbrwolf1121]

Would there be any chance of the chain ejecting a hot round that would go off after ejection though

[@pauldavidson6321]

They have electrically fired primers ,so it wouldn't be a problem.

[@williamt.sherman9841]

considering that this type Chain system has been in service since the 70's I don't think its a issue.

[@ballzdeep6974]

Cant wait for a Bradley/begleitpanzer 57 hybrid

[@cacao1312]

I don’t know a lot about guns I’ve only shot three different ones but haven’t 50mm guns been around forever our soldiers have been using them for a long time why is this so special

[@jamesbannerman4804]

You might be thinking of .50 caliber. 50 mm used to be for AA.

[@williamt.sherman9841]

there is more to a gun than its caliber. This is a autocannon- an automatic gun. Its intended to be on whatever vehicle is going to replace the M2/M3 Bradley which is armed with a much smaller (and now obsolete) 25mm. This is one of the potential main guns for the new Armored Fighting Vehicle. the 50mm XM913 is intended to have similar engagement ranges as the Russian BMP-3- also 50mm should be enough to defeat any IFV currently in service it also has a larger blast radius so it can be used against low altitude aircraft (helicopters and in particularly Drones- which is another major gap in the US Army's inventory)

[@AaronChevy-ks8eb]

The past engineers we had were a special class of people.

[@martinfard4073]

When KZbin algorithm mistakenly assumes you as a WW3 arms dealer

[@Tommass79]

Great in theory to upscale anything but recoil accuracy stress on mounting points added weight increased storage requirements isn't so easy to quickly resolve lets see how this develops and is adopted.

[@MrChickennugget360]

i guess shoot less often. Better fire control and more power per round means you would not need to shoot as often as the old 25mm

[@brianmccutchan9513]

Could you imagine a squib in that ? Holy nightmare Batman !

[@arieltraasdahl-xh6ri]

That base bleed technology producing that appearance of thrust outbthe back of that 50mm projectile? Kind of looked that way. I'm honestly not that familiar with 20mm and up.

[@rjmercer042]

So, is this a UAC 2 or a UAC 5? (Battletech reference) ;)

[@timbrwolf1121]

So WarThunder will have this next year right?

[@asteroh1875]

first let's add french navy ok?

[@Maverick966]

​@@asteroh1875 Nobody cares about the French Navy LOL and most don't even care about the Naval mode in WT

[@asteroh1875]

@@Maverick966 then you should play more often

[@vancruising]

100mm?

[@joseestevezhernandez558]

"upscaling a little bit" LMAO

[@rolandlee6898]

57mm: Exists in many types of ammunition, freely available, mass produced, competitively priced. This guy: How do we not use that but have the same and make it all proprietary so we can put an idiotic price tag on it?

[@grndzro777]

Hell it isn't even a bigger shell. I'd love to see a comparison in velocity to the 30mm. I'm calling BS on the range increase.

[@peterpiper47]

For some reason I feel like drinking punch.

[@karlhans6678]

why is there fire behind the bullet?

[@NotAnonymousNo80014]

Dude has the looks of an arms merchant.

[@TheDustysix]

A biker in LA designed the Chain Gun while working at Hughes Helicopters in Culver City.

[@wirehyperspace]

so where is the lidar radar so know when missals are coming in?

[@gamingwhatwecan]

How can the APFSDS have more energy when the cartridge size is the same?

[@jamesricker3997]

Lighter projectile and more powerful propellant

[@battleoid2411]

Also the cartridge extends a little higher it looked like

[@perfekt526]

it is not cramped in the top making room for more propellant. When propellant burns under pressure it is not proportional. You don't need twice as much to dobbel the pressure, you maybe only need a few grams more, everybody who loads their own ammo knows that. If you place a rifle round upright on a table, there is a tiny space from the bottom of the projektile to the top of the powder, it kan be as little as a 2 ore 3 millimeters, that 2 ore 3 millimeters can be the difference between the right pressure ore to high pressure...so it doesn't take much to make more pressure.

[@jamesbannerman4804]

More kinetic energy.

[@herrakaarme]

@@jamesricker3997 APFSDS projectile isn't supposed to be light. They are made of tungsten alloy (or the poisonous depleted uranium if you work for an unscrupulous army). So, they are about as heavy as the size permits. If they were light, they would have less kinetic energy.

[@GoldenpaydirtReviews]

Of course I’m drooling 🤤

[@richystar2001]

Need 2 of these in a AC 130 Gunship.

[@1PAHero]

Just speaking from a Lehman’s point of view. I think it be great to simplify these bushmaster guns. With a 50 mm, 35 mm, and a 25 mm. All working on basically the same weapon system.

[@65es]

is there a picatinny for my surefire?

[@daeladub]

Wonder if this is going to find its way on a spooky.

[@Veldtian1]

Son of Herc here we come.

[@winstonchurchill237]

Jerrol Hale because this gun is fully automatic, the 105 on the spooky needs to be reloaded manually after each shot.

[@daeladub]

@Jerrol Hale not all threats need the 105

[@kurtengel4652]

they're slowly retiring the "Spooky's" though

[@808saimin]

Just updating Spooky and renaming it Ghostrider

[@luisalizondo4973]

Bofors forever!

[@briananthony4044]

Does it have programable rounds like the Bofors 40mm 3P?

[@vyacheslavlemberskyi2748]

Was thinking about the same. I think no, because seems it has no proper muzzle device and, as stated, it's the existing gun just scaled up.

[@heathcliff8624]

Thats surprising, considering the 3P round has been in production for almost 20 years. Saab Dynamics makes better weapons.

[@laxmantc77]

Soon it will

[@chesterlynch9533]

Yes, that's in development for 25mm, 30mm Mk44 or M230LF(the one that will be installed on the Stryker IM-SHORAD), Super40, 35mm, and 50mm. They call it Programmable Airburst Munitions that's basically what the guy is showing as an "High Explosive round". It can be programmed on airburst mode, point detonation, and point delay detonation.

[@elroinoronha433]

Perfect for home defence

[@Christopher-li6gg]

I like when Jarrod is talking about tye 35mm versus the 50mm, basically saying bigger is better...lol. What would be great would be twin mounted 50 mm gun set up, and when the enemy sees these twin 50 set up, I want them to crap themselves before the thought of even getting rounds down range...

[@pabf2745]

has it air-burst? / why not to use the exixting gun and ammo of the navy 57mm gun (as other do)

[@Shaun_Jones]

Because those 57mm shells are huge and you couldn’t fit many of them into a vehicle. These 50mm rounds are a lot stubbier so you can actually carry a useful number of them.

[@alexnelson6196]

So... they are going to make a 50mm Vulcan upgrade. Right?

[@Sailor86To]

It is a quite short barrel for a 50 mm cannon. How many calibers is it ?

[@billwhoever2830]

the catridge is small as well, they practicaly fire a large caliber short 50mm projectile from a 35mm case. The gunpowder is the same. The 35mm version surely has much higher velocities when using HE. The 50mm version fires large slow HE projectiles (more like a grenade launcher) which is ideal against personel, and probably even faster sabot AP projectiles. The 35mm diameter is too small to idealy use a sabot. For example, the milennium gun fires HE projectiles from the exact same catridge at velocities higher than 1100m/s which is very fast. kzbin.info/www/bejne/ppOYkHlqlKqimpo Its also a revolver cannon which means it can deal with missfires. I think that a revolver cannon would be a better idea for the IFV due to the higher fire rate. Ammo and recoil control are both limited on an ifv though.

[@billwhoever2830]

the video I linked shows the AHEAD projectiles which are equiped with heavy tungsten pellets, they have a lower velocity, about 1000m/s, could be very deadly against infantry

[@dennist.8018]

I need this, for home defense.

[@delvinciposterkid]

Does it come with shoulder pads? =)

[@icarustheother8591]

I think I just had a manufacturegasm is there such a thing well there is now

[@ElPasoJoe1]

How does this gun handle a hang fire? Hung warheads about 1/3 of the way down the barrel will tend to cook off...

[@Shaun_Jones]

The gun just ejects an unfired round and a chute carries it out of the vehicle, so the hang fire just goes off on the ground next to your armored vehicle.

[@TBreezy17]

I was expecting to see Matt from DemoRanch walking around.

[@seminolerick6845]

wha ??? 10,000 rounds fired thru it ... continuously ? The barrel didn't melt ? dang !

[@thelastdruidofscotland]

be nice to know the velocity of that ap round, could be a nasty round to deal out

[@Shaun_Jones]

It’s probably not as good against armor as a Bofors 40mm or other large autocannons, but it will still be sufficient for most light vehicles. The big advantage of this weapon is the explosive capacity of the HE shells and the higher ammunition load.

[@Humster]

This might work well on some form on technicals

[@jasevalentine4997]

Honestly, it's overkill on technicals. (Might even need an ultra-quick fuze for that.) But, I'd rather throw money downrange than lose troops.

[@kameronjones7139]

Might? This thing is meant to shred heavy ifv this thing would obliterate any technical

[@pauldavidson6321]

50 cal BMG would shred a technical and its crew ,so a 50 mm would be a horrific waste of money .

[@jasevalentine4997]

Ah'm telling you, IF it would save troop lives, I'm all for it - BUT - Show Me the Lethality, or go home.

[@shatteredstar2149]

@@erincarson8998 somebody manage to mount a 76mm on to a Toyota

[@Themayseffect]

Size 5 Cannon...nice

[@diwitdharpatitripathi6782]

Pounder gun . Weapon systems. 3000 meters. Ammunition

[@786otto]

Just waiting for black Friday.

[@joshuamefford6944]

I think I found my new home defense gun!!🤣

[@Puzzoozoo]

No mention as to the weight increase from the 35mm to the 50mm.

[@131Basher]

Haha Boeing ad before NGC story!

[@the.parks.of.no.return]

The arsenals of freedom

[@Chewedbacca]

Can army mechanics maintain it? And doesn't the sabot really not care about the barrel diameter that it's shot from? Shouldn't the 30 mil have even more pressure with the same load? Also, wouldn't the same load behind a bigger payload technically mean that you'd need a more advanced fire control system to compensate for decreased velocity?

[@thepreserver83]

Doesn't the sabot really not care about the barrel diameter that it's shot from? Bigger the chamber of the gun where explosives burns - bigger can be the cartridge which contain explosives, and more energy will be created to push the sabot. Another factor is that the sabot must be heavy on weight but thin. To achieve this, the penetrator is extended down to the bottom of cartridge to become heavier, and build from heavy weight materials Tungsten and Uranium, but hardened steel is more acceptable because Tungsten is expensive and uranium is cheaper but is not "clean". Penetration energy of sabot come from the speed and weight of bullet, but speed depends from the quantity of explosives burned in cartridge. Shouldn't the 30 mil have even more pressure with the same load? I dont think so, bcs 50mm cartridge contains more explosive to push the bullet forward.

[@arieltraasdahl-xh6ri]

Tungsten's not that expensive. Depleted uranium, curiously, sharpens as it defeats steel armor plate. Apparently that's the real reason for depleted uranium saboted rods.

[@eastindiaV]

My idea is to turn the average soldier into a walking tank, have a super large machine gun by infantry standards, mounted on a Segway like motorized carriage, with a metal shield. The Segway are gyroscopically stabilized, so they always stay upright based on detection of earth's gravity field. So, walking behind that, the average soldier could operate a large weapon like a Heavy Machine gun, like it was an assault rifle. They could also carry more ammo, more rations, and all their usual kit, in addition to the mini-tank. They're called "Caissons" Most combat takes place within 300 yards, so the larger caliber with the same powder is great, as long as high explosives are used. For a armor piercer, you want extremely solid material with extremely high velocity.

[@NeoPsychosis-zg2ki]

we need them for SHORAD applications !

[@lovetotruck78]

Ohhhhh please!!! 500mm! Or even 1000mm! Hell....10000mm!!!

[@giovannicherico3837]

Probably should have mentioned the fire rate and the amount of ammunition IFVs can carry.

[@davidreinhart373]

That depends on how fast the costumer wants the engine that drives the chain to turn and how big the ammo storage of the IFV is. It doesn't really depend on the gun.

[@diwitdharpatitripathi6782]

25 mm bushmaster. Chain driven, electric motors.

[@diwitdharpatitripathi6782]

New 50milimeter gun . Northrop Grumman arms manufacturers. Chain gun . Designated by the army .....

[@detailingdiaries6562]

Imagine firing a 10,000 burst from one of those bad boys! 😳

[@wino0000006]

But can I register it as a sporting rifle?

[@pravinRajGiri12]

Good

[@WorkerBee2011]

So they just took a 35mm cartridge, increased the size of the neck and stuck a 50mm projectile in it? Why not use a similar case geometry on a large case?

[@joelau2383]

Because it would be way easier to scale up the barrel on 35mm gun than make a new gun with new case.

[@ragnabob]

Murica goes pew pew!!