Implant Nightmares: One Woman's Dental Disaster

[@amylene6480]

I’m 3 months post op from sinus lift and bone graph and need to wait 5 more months to heal. Then they can put my implant. I pray to God that my sinus lift and bone geaph successful. Can’t wait to get this over.

[@bob.s795]

I feel her pain, you trust a dentist to install an implant then you find out they F up, and now you need to spend more money and more pain to correct it. and the first dentist is not liable for any of it. should be a law against this.

[@jensz9360]

She should use the new dentists evaluation as the basis of a malpractice suit on the dentist who messed her up and then subpoena this dentist as an expert who can testify to the malpractice. He money would be better spet on an attorney than to use it to try and correct all the damage. A good attorney would get her paina nd suffering and withe the court decision if in her favor she would be able to pay for repairs to make her whole again.

[@michaelcerda1643]

Yeah but good luck getting this dentist to testify the first dentist f’d up. Even with cases that are worse than this it’s not typical to hear another dentist or doctor admit that another one screwed up. In court under other at least. What they will say in an office to a patient might not be the same thing they will testify to in court under oath.

[@l.e.6263]

@@jensz9360The main problem with dental malpractice suits is getting a “dental specialist” to testify against the bad dentist. Many refuse to say anything negative about shoddy dentistry & they’re a tight group. Without a testifying specialist, no suit can continue & lawyers know this. Plus, she’ll have to pay upfront those high suit costs. Dentistry is not same as medical malpractice . ADA still refuses to accept Medicare bc they don’t want to discount their pricing. Many of best dentists do not take insurance, except for great Hollywood insurance . Elite athletes get good dentistry but also have lots of $$ too to pay cash.

[@frankswildyear]

So the best solution is to pull them all, and start again with implants? What an ordeal this poor woman has to go through physically and financially.

[@mistycmcana953]

this is not accurate, with this pictures you are not able to see where the implant is , where the attachment is, there could be a easy solution the problem here is the dentist that are making this video have not really that much experience with allon 4 or all on six, this case its an easysolve. any prosto with 10 year experience on all on four can just unscrew the whole thing and fabricate 3 prototipes in one appointment and from there , start all over again witht he prostodontic parto only not the removal of implants yet . even one of the solutions would be to remove only the canine implant depending on the height of the lateral and also the amount of implants already inside, however precise x-rays need to be show to us to be able to analyze this dentist said she needed to know the partsas first step however, thats the least of her problems this case needs to be mounted , on a articulator and evaluate frontal lateral smile desing, do a correct prototype and check phonetics, labial contour , labial smile , dental smile , once you have that you can then decide what needs to be removed or kept.

[@hankhenry-h1p]

I feel her pain. I had 11 implants placed almost a year ago, five on top, 6 Lower. I have had so many issues with the top (21 visits to the dentist in 6 months) that I decided to get a second opinion. I believe that part of my issue was that I went to the least expensive person. When the doctor looked at my scans, he was truthful and helped me understand what was wrong. He asked me how much I had already paid and lowered his price without me even asking. All of my implants are about to be removed and replaced. He also called my dentist and spoke to him. I later contacted my dentist and asked him if I could get a refunded for the failing implants. He sent me back every penny and there were no questions. I should have invested more up front and paid more. Now, I am going to be starting completely over. I'm about to go into another 6 months of soft foods, when I could have already been eating steak!

[@wazzup1316]

Wow! You got your money back? Your very lucky I had my top arch done a month ago cost me $30,000 cad. So far so good I had small infection but that's it I have 3 months before I get my permanent arch

[@sdfv4zx]

@@wazzup1316 You could of gone to thailand and get it, they got top notch dental there, almost same as the west.

[@robpaquin1204]

I’ve had implants done to replace my two front teeth three times. Now I have a huge bone defect. I was told after the fact that I didn’t have enough bone. The doctor that placed the implant was a periodontist. I will never get another implant or trust a dentist again

[@sdfv4zx]

I got 2 missing tooth, i didnt want an implant so i got a bridge.

[@collegestatistics]

If it's "not done right" shouldn't there be a malpractice suit?

[@loganq]

They say it is more an art than a science.

[@l.e.6263]

@collegestatistics. Dentistry not medical malpractice bc insurance industry ironically deems teeth / oral health not necessity of life.

[@sdfv4zx]

@@l.e.6263 Its great to be a dentist, if u screw up you dont have to be liable for it, and make a bunch of money too.

[@TMEG94]

i just got my first surgury for all on 4 last week (they placed 6 implants on my upper jaw) and i got temporary dentures that are not fixed (so its just for esthetics) and i have to take them out at night. in 3 months i get my final set of zirkonia teeth. is this a legit way of doing the surgery? and is it better not to fix the temporary teeth to the implants right away?

[@biancabonnie3104]

Why’d you get temporary dentures? Was it because the extractions were done that same day and they wanted to keep pressure off the site

[@henrymartin9155]

Sometimes when doing these surgeries if the bone is too soft and you don’t get the ideal torque value for proper stability of the implant, the dentist may not convert your temporary into a fixed one and leave it as a removable so as not to cause failure of implants by the chewing forces. However, I think 3 months is way too soon to get your permanent . At the very least 6 months.

[@karate_girl_ibiza]

Surgery 😊

[@karinmiller2093]

⁠@@henrymartin9155 Yes that’s exactly what happened with mine, the top bones were too soft so they gave me a removable top denture and screwed in the bottom one. It was pretty annoying but it looked fine, and the implants healed nicely

[@wazzup1316]

Much safer to not attach the permanent or temporary implants first it's better to let posts heal for 3 months and then place implants because it's cleaner less chance of infection so your dentist did it the right way

[@realone_dc3682]

This is expertise consulting by Dr. and Prosthodontist. $20K sounds like a pretty low number when doing Top and Bottom arches. Looking at the quality of work one might have guessed. Doing it the right way is always more expensive especially if you do it the cheaper way first.

[@universalstudiosshorts9963]

One cracked tooth let to 3 crowns one got infected and had to be pulled and now i got headaches i dont know if its the other molar crown or the extractmrnt im 4 days out

[@karate_girl_ibiza]

I went to Bulgaria.. my teeth are amazing and implants perfect.. i would never pay uk or usa prices, they are just dentists on the make who do not know anything about implants, yes my treatment took a year but they are beautiful and i m so grateful. I was in temps for 6 months fixed after the implants had healed etc, so happy

[@cica8427]

Same here,after I was butchered in Mexico I found one of the best dental clinic in Moldova I have ever been. Their main goal is to have satisfied patients and the owner of the clinic is not in medical field. In order to have patients he must provide a perfect dental service and he does,succesfully. Punto Bianco/Chisinau

[@jensz9360]

Yes, US is overpriced and the dentists are greed driven. The sky high prices are caused by insurance companies colluding with greedy dentists and jacking up costs that are passed on to the patient, also its caused by finance companies readily willing to finance medical procedures which causes principle price to go up and then they make interest also on the back end. All damn greed!

[@maddyg2320]

Can you please provide the name & address of the dentist you went to? 🙏

[@cica8427]

@@maddyg2320 I am not sure if you asked me but I will answer anyway. It can be usefull for others. I send my 3D scan via what's app and all my question and concern were answered. Based on my case ,whici was very complicated they choose the maxilo facial surgeon and dentist for me. My surgeon was Eugen Sali,an extremely competent doctor. But if you need zygomatic implants,my friend went there and had surgery with another doctor who's speciality is zygomatic implant. I personaly had 8 implants and 2 pterygoid implants all well integrated in the bones in 8 months.

[@cynthiacredle3487]

I'm going to Bulgaria in a month. My daughter lives there, and her college roommate is now a dentist there. She looked at my x rays and gave her suggestions for good clinics as she doesn't do implants. I'm nervous and excited. 18 long months of researching and finally picking a place to complete everything.

[@daversj]

So sorry that she got a botched job. In medicine you don’t know the competence of the provider is until after its done, and by then its to late. My take away is try to save your natural teeth at all costs.

[@miceprincess]

Please share the tips and tricks on how to live with it daily for others. 💞

[@mrmrjims3865]

why cant she add 2 implants make it all on 6 and use bridged tooth installation without gum

[@gvalleygrl2007]

I just called your office. Do you do any referrals for people out of state. I live in MN

[@northtexasdentalsurgery]

@@gvalleygrl2007 We can do a virtual consult for you! Just give our office a call and they can get you all set up! We would be more than happy to help!

[@biancabonnie3104]

SMH some dentists are just wicked and money hungry. I hope their former patients start reporting them to the dental boards because it’s ridiculous. Smh they’re just predators and it’s sad to see how much people spend and then have to spend again because of something that could’ve been avoided.

[@kdpolite43]

I agree wholeheartedly. I've been thru this whole process myself in the past year my dentist is aces. Bad dentists are everywhere and if a person is needing major dental work please do the research.

[@adrianeelise3849]

Okay but how do we know the only option was to redo? Like if someone comes In with only one bad implant is this doctor gonna tell them they need to redo all?? Seems to me like maybe he’s trying to push to redo a lot of them. Idk

[@bisayadaku6065]

I’m glad my dentist did a good job 😬you cannot tell I have a fake teeth 😬😆 I have all on 4 top and bottom 👌

[@l.e.6263]

Sadly the ADA board supports bad dentists too; they’re all a tight group. Dentists gossip about patients & if I are difficult or dislike, they’ll even blacklist u. True- hygienists confirmed this secretly to me thru yrs. Internet destroyed patients’ privacy & anonymity.

[@jaydenp4975]

Question: what of the FP3 implants fail over time? Can the person wear traditional dentures after the bone has been removed? Are there special dentures that are shorter?

[@biancabonnie3104]

I’d think bone loss especially if a gone graft wasn’t done, but that’s just my guess

[@felipemiranda7110]

Dentures can be an option or you can start getting into advanced type of implants that are held by other types of bone/tissue… these include zygomatic (cheekbone) implants, pterygoid implants, you can try to do sinus lifting to add more bone, or an old school technique called subperiosteal implants where the implants are held by the periosteum and not the bone. These types of implants are more difficult to place however….

[@cica8427]

@@felipemiranda7110 I just started last year the full mouth reabilitation in Chisinau/Moldova. I do have 2 pterygoid implants and 8 regular implants. I was fortunate enough to find an amazing maxilo facial surgeon after I was butchered in Mexico.My husband and one of my friend had the dental job done there with amazing results. My and my friend case were extremely difficult. When we went for check up in Canada they say they like what they see in our mouth and my husband dentist told him that the implant was so perfect instaled that he know it right away,the job has not been done in Canada. So far so good!

[@darlenedrivera165]

Good question, thanks for the response

[@effervescent_smegma-s1w]

I know this dentist is good but I'm sure anyone walking in is gonna need a sizeable loan 😂

[@jensz9360]

That is the issue. The greed!

[@collegestatistics]

Anyone who has ever drilled a screw into a wall knows how you must be careful not to miss the stud. So this dentist should be held responsible for the implant going outside the jaw bone. Bet the dentist had her sign her rights away with an agreement thicker than her jaw bone!!!

[@mrmrjims3865]

Dr Koukousaki is beautiful, I guess her last name is from a Japanese husband which is probably the other dentist. Congrats to the the Japanese guy if it's the case, you got a beautiful lady

[@americangirl8970]

Too many people choose implants when they could just get crowns. I have one crown that is over 40 years old, never had a problem with it.

[@annemariewheeler1404]

You must have strong teeth and take good care of them

[@lorraineheck8670]

Not true! If you have bone loss and tissue loss. Crowns aren't feasible.

[@wazzup1316]

The dentist will tell you your options and crowns are not always better than implants a crown can still fail as matter of fact most of them fail eventually

[@americangirl8970]

My sister and law got implants 2 years ago, they have already broken twice, she got addicted to opiates and had a bowel obstruction. You will not have that with crowns. Plus they look really fake too me, Like they are too big for her mouth.

[@narad8165]

Nicely made up story with a couple of actors to boot😂

[@AnnieSmith-gmail]

Haha so true