Norway, now with added... fun?

What if Norway wasn't entirely unprepared for war?
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[@eagleowl833]

I think its funny that in victoria 3 everyone is obsessed with overthrowing monarchies but in hoi4 everyone is obsessed with restoring or empowering monarchies

[@Labargoth]

It's more like a very loud minority if you look at the player stats Paradox releases (not yet for AAT).

[@jacemoon4997]

Monarchist trees are usually the most fun anyway

[@romulusnuma116]

People just like kingdoms and empires but not cringe fascists empires

[@desran4447]

Well, in Victoria depending on if you have or do not have a monarch your gameplay changes considerably. In HOI, unless it is USSR, where you have to go through a long and devastating civil war, if you go monarchist you just get some different spirits, which are sometimes just arguably better, like with Carlist Spain.

[@YungIsyan]

meanwhile the people in Millenium Dawn trying to restore a special political movement

[@melkyrion]

Any norway playthrough that doesnt include hiring Quisling is a victory

[@thebrotherhoodofderp1557]

i agree.

[@noahfromkakanj]

Don’t know why everyone calls him the devil when there has been worse

[@kamemesg2083]

@@noahfromkakanj I guess not in Norway

[@noahfromkakanj]

@@kamemesg2083 Det er sant da

[@jesusdeputy931]

​@@noahfromkakanj norwegians see him as a traitor to the country basically selling out the country

[@HaHaBIah]

Imagine 3 waves of monarchist demonstrations suddenly just firing up throughout the whole country.

[@griphyx3540]

Bitt3rsteel on his way to play every single monarchist paths of the new update

[@legaullonapoleonien8760]

The fact that Norway doesn't have King Haakon VII as a national spirit from the start really shock me ! He should be added at the start and , in historical, get his trait upgraded when refusing Quisling's coup.

[@nuclearllama7239]

I recently did a playthrough of monarchist Norway with my mates on Sweden and Finland. My mountaineers were ridiculous with the amount of special forces buffs monarchist Norway gets along with the new special forces doctrines. Manpower was a massive problem though, I was on All Adults Serve in 1939 trying to contain the naval invasions in Sweden because my friend forgot to garrison his ports.

[@kingdesktogoosegoosetime1259]

Oh wait, I'm sorry. You are Norwegian too, (Hallo kamerat), and you have a Swedish and Finnish friend. You are all welcome to join.

[@sarky387]

All of your Scandinavia videos have been absolutely AMAZING. You explain these really well. Keep up the great work.

[@Bitt3rSteel]

Thank you very much!

[@geofff.3343]

"Norway, the Chile of Europe." *Dead*

[@JackNicholason]

Gotta say, I don't know where all the Futurama memes started coming from, but I love it

[@animeXcaso]

now monarchy support costs PP alongside manpower

[@pufffincrazy5275]

Bittersteel is the one Hoi4 KZbinr who makes Futurama references and I'm all here for it!

[@someguy1131]

I love how you reference futurama in every episode. You have some good taste

[@regnumbospori]

Me and my friend were playing as Norway and Sweden, respectively, and this would have been a nice guide for that time. Luckily, we didn't do too bad, and I got a nice bit of land

[@blazerayanami5979]

Another great video! Btw, little tip: you can also justify on Slovakia to get a war goal against Germany, except that justifying on Slovakia creates far less tension

[@user-qj2rd4ll7x]

Yea its fun and all until paradox decides to change the pp with comand power that you get from the decisions and you just stay here like me and wonder ,,Wtf do I do'' cuz its a lot of waisted time here if I wait for pp. Thank you paradox👍

[@Bitt3rSteel]

yeah, that was not cool

[@Theover4000]

Yup, love that they'll debuff a minor nation like that.

[@MA-hd7ds]

Suggestions on how to go Monarchy and not get hit by the PP requirement? It sucks sitting waiting for PP@@Bitt3rSteel

[@magic4391]

@@MA-hd7ds Not sure if this is still relevant for you, but it's better to only go for 6 of the provinces all the way to 3 rather than do all 10. Mathematically, if you do stumbling, then royal chamberlain, wait a day after that finishes. Then click the 6 provinces from the north down and then that allows you to take assure the population. then do the other focus in the tree. Do all the focuses up to "the kingdom of norway" without taking that. meanwhile, start propping up the economy so you can take an independent norway. Do a couple of focuses in that tree until you have over 55% war support from using the decision to boost war support. Then you can blitz down to shield of the north and start taking land. I saw Bitt3r also mentioned something about deleting your army for the focus for sweden so they'll deny you so you can go to war with them, not sure if that works 100% of the time, haven't tried it yet. What sucks is that once you take one of the focuses to core land, like kalmar union, it prevents you from taking any of the others later, so you don't get cores on Finland or Britain like he does.

[@st_oop]

great video as always. I’ve improved a lot since I started watching you.

[@Bitt3rSteel]

Glad to help

[@sunnysky7639]

This is a really good strategy. Clicking all the demonstration decisions is definitely the right choice, even if unintended and very cheesy. I tried something similar, but forgot about attaches and Quisling so I just tried to take 'Promote the Armed Defence of Norway' as much as I could until 70% war support. That took too long, and annoyingly, both Denmark and Sweden accepted my ridiculous territorial demands (maybe my army was too large?). As a result, I couldn't declare on Sweden immediately, and I only managed to annex the three Swedish states, the Danish mainland (and Iceland) before Germany came knocking. Why the hell does Denmark survive on like Greenland and the Faroe Islands like nothing happened? Then what really messed things up was that Germany declared war on Denmark, and with my thirty-ish division army and no manpower I retreated to hide in mainland Norway again. Denmark did the thing which lost Faroe and Greenland, and I didn't realise that *both* 'Restore Kalmar Union' and 'Proclaim Nordic Unity' were locked behind owning the Faroe islands... which the UK outright owned... it is really infuriating when you've next conquered your way across Sweden, Finland (declaring manually on Sweden somehow dragged me into war with Finland), and reclaimed the Jutland Peninsula from Germany before looking at the decision that gives you cores and finding out that you have to declare on the UK. Pretty awful. Probably should've restarted again, but it was a fun campaign in the end (capitulated Germany, wasn't bothered to go to war with the Allies). At the end, the entire army was no manpower and suffering, lol.

[@TheArrowedKnee]

I think the game was patches so it's 55% war support now, still does take a while though.

[@SovietSquirrel]

With the new special forces buffs, paratroopers have become really fun. I had a Kaiserin Victoria run where I paradropped Leningrad, Moscow, and Stalingrad ahead of my tank spearheads, it was honestly beautiful and what I always imagined HOI being. Special forces are finally special and can really well fulfill their specialties

[@nickvance7453]

not to mention if you diversify your special forces if you read the fine print on the special forces doctrine they are not all specific to one type of troop so you can get some disgustingly large buffs

[@toonotsleep8]

I look forward to you doing the vote of no confidence path; it's likely the strongest path for Norway I think

[@zapper1868]

Probably won’t see this comment but thank you for your videos.I am in college right now and I been having a bad time due to stress and every time you upload the video makes my day.Thanks bud

[@Bitt3rSteel]

I hope these videos bring you some joy

[@red_seven_]

I'm only missing two achievements of AAT (the bus and cheese your fighter) and you come up with the correct path for one of it but then stop before it's finished... Anyways, great as always. I'll get myself some Belgian fries tomorrow.

[@justusP9101]

You mean french fries?

[@red_seven_]

Nope, french fries are the stuff you get from McDonald's or others.

[@i.hate.swedish.ISRAELUBERALLES]

Who is doing thumbnail arts they look adorable

[@yorkofski4197]

The thumbnail game has been on point lately!👌

[@redstonehero7944]

The elite forces is bugged for everything right now, most countries can pump out entire armies of special forces. Finland especially can have exclusively special forces. There will be more capacity than available manpower in Finland

[@sahilhossain8204]

Lore of Norway, underdog of the North...or is it? Momentum 100

[@JamesLivesInBuffalo]

I think the new DLC raised special forces caps by a lot. You could be right that it's a mistake, but I hope not. Love my marines (30 width shock troops; take the beach, then everything else).

[@derevianne1108]

for some reason every historical ww2 peace deal i see ends in german reich alive in landlocked region of France

[@DanielStaniforth]

I found Assure The Population is a better focus to take as soon as possible, since it will hit your war support, but since you're already capped with how low it can get it's a good time to get it, and start working on the decisions earlier

[@Bitt3rSteel]

You'd risk losing the mobilization law, but my math could be off

[@DanielStaniforth]

I did all monarchy clicks, I didn't take the -5% war support guy, so that may have helped. You can't get lower than 6% war support and you also get all the -WS out of the way before the strikes fire. You have time to do the 70 day focus that unlocks the decisions, and then the 35 day focus and that one finishes in perfect timing to save your economy law. I also didn't take the monarchy decision that purely gives stability, I did the three economy ones, and then concentrated on war support. I did just two 70 day economy focuses (the one that gets rid of that dreadful spirit) while my war support ticked up as by the time those have finished you have enough war support to continue on the tree. @@Bitt3rSteel

[@juanpablorodriguez9189]

Great video as always! It could be great to make a guide updated on Mexican achievements or a new path guide. Once again great video and thanks for all your content :)

[@pelo1235]

Great video, it makes me want to play Norway, but i am wondering what division templates were u using for ur units?

[@realbrycevr]

Great video thank you

[@Borel-nv5bq]

Loving the futurama clips at the beginning

[@MDHERE218]

Was just watching the sweden video lol

[@Ghostedpeanuts]

I don’t have arms against tyranny but Finland has a focus tree for me to play

[@thebrotherhoodofderp1557]

You get the historical focus trees for free. the DLC is for the Ahistorical stuff, along with most of the new music, etc.

[@geokou7645]

There should’ve been a path where you say smth like “the king is weak” and you kick him out and choose another one.

[@m.d.3953]

they fixed it. now you just need 55% ws for shield of the north

[@Findelix]

Cant wait for this video! I love your contents on hoi4, ur my beacon for this game

[@Aconcernedrifleman]

Now that you've gone though all the big Nordic countries, I'd love to see what you do with the secret, 5th nation that was included in this pack.

[@NiklasMJ]

odly enough the strongest nation in the pack by far.. finally got the ''New World Order'' achievement with them mega ez.. they legit had to limit them to 3 research slots in order to nerf them xD

[@wiedzmin8204]

What is the hidden nation?

[@NiklasMJ]

@@wiedzmin8204 It's Iceland, it's not so secret anymore, but yeah the pack doesn't mention anything about them getting a focus tree, it's kind of like the different provinces of Ethiopia (and Aussa) in that DLC.. But boi oh boi do they have some insane ministers and buffs.

[@Rick-C__137]

As a thank you for playing my nation, i will personally send you 15,000 barrels of oil to you! ❤ 🇳🇴 ❤

[@Lopez0451]

Bey BT, you name your channel members as elite divisions, right? So, what about naming the first ones to comment in your videos to make the frontline units? Because we are the first ones to get there, so it kind make sense? Nice video btw

[@Bitt3rSteel]

Not a bad idea

[@buddermonger2000]

3 titles in 12 hours. Impressive

[@tijldenotter8246]

Hey BitterSteel, got a nice exploit for you. If you go and look at the new MIO of britain, the aviation one Supermarine, in total the right tree gives 100% air attack for fighters. It seems like someone added a zero to much. Easy way of getting the achievment to shoot down 800 figthers in 1 day. Espcially with all the other fighter bonuses Britain gets. Japan also gets it but they dont have the MIO unlocked at the start of the game.

[@robertobaldessarini6681]

That color,damn! I love it

[@jimnicholas7334]

Why am I just now noticing that your ending music sounds like something from the later Five Nights at Freddy's games? xD

[@Qwertyui606]

Fuck tried this about 5 times, sweden gives in every time. Thats 50 factories i miss out on, and i cant invade them afterwards without them joining the allies.

[@Bitt3rSteel]

You can just delete your army to get the war goal, then rebuild and an invade

[@BSideWasTaken]

I'm guessing the reason that they made those shared focus tree thingies is for coop multiplayer. They did the same with EU4 a couple DLCs ago.

[@emberfist8347]

Bitt3rsteel after seeing France post-peace deal. "Look how they massacred my boy."

[@tobrexa1883]

Hey bittersteel, are the conditions for the swedish cession of territories exactly the same as those you cited for the Denmark foci? Sweden always folds and I'm thinking of deleting armies to get them to refuse. Haven't had the time to test it out though. Are the conditions already on the wiki or did you dig through the game files like a true chad?

[@Bitt3rSteel]

Went to the game files, the conditions are similar. Just delete your army

[@tobrexa1883]

Thanks :) @@Bitt3rSteel Another possible strat would to accept the land, core everything that's possible from the danish lands with the focus 2 tiers below and go back to them when you are safely in the allies. I guess it's less ideal but if you're pressed for time it would be an alternative to get some manpower before being able to form scandinavia.

[@SebHaarfagre]

The idea of Haakon VII not only reconquering old Norwegian lands, but also taking over Denmark is quite funny, given Haakon VII himself was a Danish national, installed in mutual goodwill 😂 His brother ruling Denmark at the time, nonetheless

[@I_Main_Singed]

I havent watched bittersteel for a long time but i couldnt resist watching after i saw the norway vid

[@PooShmeister74]

24:40 its because a. Theyre untrained Prob should get them to regulars and b. combat width was absolutely ignored when pushing with 10 divs

[@sniperdude6286]

BTW If you take the Netherlands and the rest of France after that peace deal you would have the Cheese your fighter achievement

[@TheInterloper101]

Norway my beloved

[@AtlasAirways]

And they really made olav in a navy uniform a general not a portrait of him in generals uniform

[@salxrn]

18:58 what happened to Romania 💀💀

[@oliverriska2965]

and this is great video

[@blackeagle016]

Cool video, but I have a question. When will achivment guides start 😈😈😈

[@jbAjbA2009]

i love this

[@devanzummallen5677]

Could you do an achievement run for The Lone Wolf as Finland?

[@hydranmenace]

Every time I land in the UK and split them in half my units run out of supply and just get demolished. And that is *with* a navy out, *and* air superiority, plus naval bombers running cover over the water. It's really stupid and I don't know what I am doing wrong. Great playthrough though.

[@childenjoyer6981]

I feel like every monarchist nordic playtrough has a different start but the same ending

[@pasbaf]

your videos are always amazing! l got hoi4 because of you and thanks to you l am learning a lot from the game! keep it up🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@ruansteenkamp4289]

Future patch has been added and switch to monarchism is now harder, forces you to not take a focus just to have enough PP to take the decisions

[@bob-qb9gw]

if that special forces cap is not a bug then norway is bit op

[@dannydacheedo1592]

27:40 It's all coming up Mulhouse.

[@rileydowell5128]

watching at 12am in australia when video released 💪 😎

[@Bitt3rSteel]

Legend!

[@gingerbread101]

only norway path i have played so far is trotsky. pretty powerful path if yk what ur doing

[@user-cl6qm7rd1s]

good video

[@buddermonger2000]

Comments are mentioning Iceland Bitt3rsteel. Maybe give it a shot?

[@blarkey9973]

I think the special forces counter counts battalions, not divisions.

[@thebrotherhoodofderp1557]

its still a lot of special forces. and i aint complaining.

[@NiklasMJ]

it does indeed but normally it would still only be like 1/4 of the amount he was able to create in this video

[@wgrundmeier]

It's a shame that Paradox just broke this strat by nerfing rushing nonaligned in the latest patch.

[@moishesdeluxeshekelshack8576]

People who watched when the video was titled "Making norway great again like the vikings of old" 👇

[@tenanaciouz]

He changes his video titles to often in the first day of posting it's annoying when I keep getting tricked into rewatching a video for a few minutes

[@Elyseon]

Didn't they nerf the monarchist Norway path because the dev in charge of it hates monarchy? If so, sleazy move.

[@AtlasAirways]

Yes

[@doomchromee8648]

What

[@Elyseon]

​@@doomchromee8648 Supposedly one of the dev team members is a rabid Swedish anti-monarchist. Injecting personal biases in what is supposed to be a historical game is so unprofessional. Unfortunately, it seems this was also the guy they put in charge of the focus tree for Norway.

[@herbert2300]

Do you see now? No winter logistics's

[@Zaza-of2gx]

I thought hungry was a stain on my screen 💀💀

[@Astrian_painter]

Norway is my home cuntry Norge ❤

[@anteplibela]

crazy that graham hill can rule over norway in this game

[@dorchcorporation7578]

🐍❄

[@jullezzz08]

Bittersteel over here changing the title not once, but twice💀

[@Dark_Player]

Did you know that Island also habe a Focus Tree? ( could you please Play the socialiste path of Finland i tried it many times to Form Scandinavia but i failed)

[@DaCubanCrokodile]

How many times have you changed the video's title? 😅

[@hamadalbabtain4546]

0:22 A movie? What’s the name of it?

[@benreynolds5433]

If Norway is the Chile of Europe, and Chile is the Chile of America, Then whats the Chile of Africa and Asia?

[@buddermonger2000]

Vietnam is the Chile of Asia and unfortunately all of the African states have borders much too clean. Except that one that's only around a river.

[@Boothinator247]

There is no Chile of Africa because instead of trying to steal all the coastline, everyone was trying to snake up the inland areas

[@jonisalmela2399]

any opinion which country is the "best" to form the kalmar or nordics? I know they kinda focus on their own thing but, manpower wise?

[@toonotsleep8]

My opinion for manpower wise is Monarchist Denmark; you get many so multipliers to population factor and recruitable population as you progress that you'll have the "most" when forming Kalmar union/Nordics - by 1939 on extensive I had recruitable pop of 10.5% and ~ 1.5 mil manpower with a modest army

[@Celin987]

I saw a video of bittersteel, instant like

[@jauk4266]

Bitter Steel Challenge Not go Monarchist. Difficulty: impossible

[@Saberu_o_oppai_de_momu]

no way

[@xanthespace5141]

I played democratic "historical" Norway (went the Labor government, but didn't surrender). Was quite fun fwiw. I wish there were focuses for not being a government in exile

[@TheSwiftrain]

Did anyone else thing, when he comented "I'd hate to be the german high command at the momment" think ok then lets see YOU recover this disaster

[@leandermeulebroeck]

Loving the thumbnails. Really makes me want to click on the video.

[@james2529]

Bittersteel is thoroughly into his futurama arc and I'm totally here for it

[@user-yn9br3po8p]

Changed your title hahaha liked the original one

[@jworville]

Can we get an update do this? the decisions now cost manpower and pp.

[@Theover4000]

I'd like that as much as you would, but the issue is.. He *JUST* did it. It'll probably be months, if not a year or two, before he shows it off again, sadly.

[@512TheWolf512]

Can you do the magic school bus achievement? It is my nightmare

[@Bitt3rSteel]

I think it's bugged atm

[@512TheWolf512]

@@Bitt3rSteel you can still try and get the route down. i can't do it... always over 19 days

[@ruansteenkamp4289]

I just wish you weren't hamstrung until right before WW2 to be able to actually start doing things, I hate how Sweden and Norway got the Turkey treatment

[@mr.triplem2458]

HOW DARE YOU CALL NORWAY WEEK!🇳🇴🇳🇴🇳🇴

[@bcf2608]

Use your influence to ask a belgian tree pls 😅

[@dylanstockhausen145]

I wonder what happened to the Romanians. At 19:26 we see that romaina dosent exist anymore

[@samueltrusik3251]

Iceland world conquest when?

[@KasperovRussiov]

I would like a separate channel for sruff like warhammer 40k and bolt action!