Nostalgia Bait is Getting Out Of Hand

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Abbie Ree

Abbie Ree

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@neonatalpenguin
@neonatalpenguin 4 ай бұрын
I kind of think that nostalgia can be a good thing when artists are mixing the things they love to create something new. The problem now is that we’re just regurgitating the same stuff wholesale over and over again. In 1977, George Lucas mashed together Flash Gordon, The Searchers, Kurosawa, Joseph Campbell, Dune, etc and made Star Wars. That’s how creativity ought to work. Nowadays we just have endless Star Wars content that tries to milk the original movies for all they’re worth, with diminishing returns.
@AbbieRee
@AbbieRee 4 ай бұрын
it does seem to come across that way sometimes almost as if originality and creativity has no part in the project at all leading it to feel quite hollow and for a quick “cash grab”. You can definitely tell when something is truly authentic and comes from the heart! Thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts it means a lot to me ☺️
@DerrickVanderspoon
@DerrickVanderspoon 4 ай бұрын
There’s plenty of original film out there. The problem is that audiences don’t really show up for those anymore while they do still show up in droves for whatever the latest marvel or Star Wars movie is, no matter how much they complain about it afterwards. So the people really are the ones to blame here, not creatively bankrupt studio executives.
@smorrisc6421
@smorrisc6421 4 ай бұрын
The worst nostalgia bait would be the multiverse in the flash movie
@AbbieRee
@AbbieRee 4 ай бұрын
I’ve had quite a few comments about that! I will have to give it a watch. Thank you for taking the time to comment I really appreciate it ☺️
@spider-ty7420
@spider-ty7420 4 ай бұрын
​@@AbbieRee watch the animated flashpoint movie too it's the same basic story but a million times better.
@DaveMcIroy
@DaveMcIroy 4 ай бұрын
Disney needs to go down badly and fast. I like this Marvel move of pure desperation.
@I_Am_David_
@I_Am_David_ 4 ай бұрын
While I do think that sometimes Hollywood relies too heavily on nostalgia I must admit that it often makes me watch a movie. For example, I loved Alien: Romulus and that had sooo much nostalgia bait
@AbbieRee
@AbbieRee 4 ай бұрын
I can’t lie I’m the same! It takes a lot on me not to go see a remake or sequel just to see what it’s like 😆 thank you for your comment !
@نيشا-د2م
@نيشا-د2م 4 ай бұрын
Dr Doom needs a new actors/actresses. I’m very disappointed b/c Robert already played Tony Stark. Like, come on now 🙄. I’m tired of seeing the same people over & over & over again. Annoying af.
@AbbieRee
@AbbieRee 4 ай бұрын
It would have been nice to bring someone new into the role but with that said I am really interested in seeing how it turns out! Thank you for sharing your thoughts on the topic it means a lot ☺️
@11ldevendrakumaragrawal27
@11ldevendrakumaragrawal27 4 ай бұрын
Yes even though no matter how good the writing and his acting would be, it would be hard to take this out of head that he played iron man unless they find a reason to connect the both characters and one more thing you also mentioned that new actresses, I don't have problem with dei but don't you think it would spark more controversy than now like the same people who are criticizing for nostalgia bait (not this channel) would loose their shit that how they try to do something new
@furrycheetah
@furrycheetah 4 ай бұрын
And nobody complain about Chris Evans who play the character as The Human Torch in F4 part one and two was offered to play the character as Captain America?
@MontyElazegui
@MontyElazegui 4 ай бұрын
@@furrycheetahIn fairness, nobody thought that version of the Fantastic Four was ever going to get more movies. Also, that version of the Fantasic Four is not part of the MCU.
@lordfreerealestate8302
@lordfreerealestate8302 3 ай бұрын
I also wouldn't be opposed with using diverse castings, either, and mixing it up could be part of that. I wouldn't be opposed to a POC actor playing Doom.
@Clark_O_Tron
@Clark_O_Tron 3 ай бұрын
Omg this is super true! Also your rabbit is adorable!! Love the after video thoughts. They are a vibe. Seeing this late, so hopefully you got the job! ✨
@AbbieRee
@AbbieRee 3 ай бұрын
Thank you so much! I’m so glad you enjoyed! My bunny says thank you 😂 this truly means a lot I really appreciate it
@Clark_O_Tron
@Clark_O_Tron 3 ай бұрын
@@AbbieRee yeee, ofc. Anytime!
@lokiluvr222
@lokiluvr222 4 ай бұрын
i love your channel so much. you are so engaging and articulate btw I hope the job interview went well! much love
@AbbieRee
@AbbieRee 4 ай бұрын
Wow thank you so much!! Your so kind bless you 🫶
@MadisonMagazineYT
@MadisonMagazineYT 4 ай бұрын
Exactly!! I think specially this 2024 entertainment industry is taking advantage of nostalgia bringing back the past, cinema, series, music and even more!!! Really cool video Abbie :)
@aniruddh_d16
@aniruddh_d16 4 ай бұрын
I feel it's the world that makes us go back to old shows. Because the present is so changed and conflicted that we just want peace, which we find in old media. But shoving the same old content that's done new is just bad. Using the old setting for an original, new story will do the magic. (Like The Holdovers)
@notthegreatestdetective
@notthegreatestdetective 3 ай бұрын
i definitely enjoy older content alot more often than new, i'm more often discovering an older show or movie i missed and enjoy more than something made recently
@jman3657
@jman3657 4 ай бұрын
That's why even if my favorite actor is staring in the next marvel movie I'm not falling for it anymore
@AbbieRee
@AbbieRee 4 ай бұрын
Honestly same i don’t know if i can trust marvel anymore, but I’m interested in seeing what they do next Thank you for sharing your thoughts I really appreciate it! ☺️
@davidshead1323
@davidshead1323 4 ай бұрын
I really love your observations when it comes to a larger culture. Your comparisons to fashion are something i dont see in other channels and its great. But you dont need to apologise for it. Which i feel you do sometimes. Your observations and ideas are great! Its great to hear them especially as they are things i wouldnt have thought of myself :)
@AbbieRee
@AbbieRee 4 ай бұрын
Thank you so much this truly means a lot to me! That is so kind of you I really appreciate the support 🫶☺️
@NuMetalfan1996
@NuMetalfan1996 3 ай бұрын
Nostalgia is a very powerful thing. For example I’m Nostalgic about things that I wasn’t even really apart of. I was born in 1996 but my personal era of fashion and music is from 1997 to 2003, when I was a toddler and young child. As I got older I just gravitated to stuff from 1997 to 2003 in my personal taste. I dress like I’m from that period, most of the music I listen to is from that period, I was just born 10 years too late. But the simple reason why Nostalgia is bigger than ever today is because nothing new is being created today. We are living in a Post Modern Era now where nothing is new anymore, so we have to pick stuff from the past.
@isaacmartinez6904
@isaacmartinez6904 4 ай бұрын
Nostalgia Bait is a mix for me. I do like listening to music from the past since some music of today isn’t inspired or interesting. But I don’t like how nostalgia bait is used just to make money. Case in point The Crow remake. Nobody asked for a remake and most people would rather see Brandon Lee, son of the legendary Bruce Lee, as the Crow.
@AbbieRee
@AbbieRee 4 ай бұрын
I think it can be both used in a good way and a bad way, but like you said when it’s just done for money it just comes across as uninspired. Thank you for sharing your thoughts it means a lot ☺️
@mareiramv
@mareiramv 4 ай бұрын
This video is very interesting and hats off for the amount of work you have to make these, because the amount of reasearch and reading that you have to do everytime must be crazy! For me, I would say the worst case of nostalgia bating that I had, beyond Marvel, is probably Doctor Who. The series was great for a long time, started to fall off during 2017 onwards and during the 60th years special of the show back in 2022 (I think) they announced the most popular duo of the show would be together again for 3 episodes only reprising their role and then they would move on as this particular show always does. Well, 2 of the episodes were nice, but the very first special was purely a "hey, I hope you are having fun with these characters that you knew before, because we are using them to make it harder to notice the gigantic big amount of plot holes and flaws our story have".
@dheeraj_one
@dheeraj_one 4 ай бұрын
The real reason for all the nostalgia bait is simply capitalism. The big studios aren't willing to invest in new projects because they are risky. Nostalgia sells. I think all the Disney live action remakes are a good example of this.
@kazooman4050
@kazooman4050 4 ай бұрын
You make pretty well-made videos and I dig the vibes as well. I hope your content blows up
@AbbieRee
@AbbieRee 4 ай бұрын
Wow thank you! That means so much to me. I appreciate your support! I’m so glad you’re enjoying the videos I love making them !
@kazooman4050
@kazooman4050 4 ай бұрын
@@AbbieRee that's great to hear! I can't wait for future videos 😁
@BarakaOMG7
@BarakaOMG7 4 ай бұрын
Am really liking your videos Abbie they just warm me in a certain way, hearing someone ramble out something they love (or hate) and hope you get the job
@AbbieRee
@AbbieRee 4 ай бұрын
Wow thank you so much for your kind words and support it truly means a lot to me!! I really appreciate it ☺️
@Bamgeutcutiepie
@Bamgeutcutiepie 4 ай бұрын
it's SUCH a weird thing to watch the Spiderman movie alone..... bc if you take the nostalgia out of it,...... is the Spiderman movie with Tobey and Andrew AS good ?? 😄 luckily i have watched ALL spiderman movies so it did work on me 😄💗 but yeah....... i am TIRED AF of nostalgia bait. especially as a cop out in disney.. just make NEW stories. we do not CARE or want "live action" films of old classics. just create NEW fairytales with a heart. i really wonder WHY is that so hard to do???? always ´love your videos. hope your channels grows bigger and bigger . you are awesome 💗
@AbbieRee
@AbbieRee 4 ай бұрын
Actually that is a great point to bring up, If it was a standalone spider-man film it would be rather confusing! I know what you mean sometimes it would be nice to see a new story now and then 😆 wow thank you so much for the support it truly means a lot to me I really appreciate it ☺️
@notthegreatestdetective
@notthegreatestdetective 3 ай бұрын
good point, i think alot of times, like the the dr. strange sequel bringing back professor x it often feels like marketing rather than creativity
@johnjellicoe-sj8df
@johnjellicoe-sj8df 4 ай бұрын
6:07 "mustical nostalgia" should have been the title of the video lmao. Also, your bunny is freaking cute
@AbbieRee
@AbbieRee 4 ай бұрын
Ah thank you! So much ☺️
@SatireNGiggles
@SatireNGiggles 3 ай бұрын
That wallpaper was distracting. Thx for addressing it. 😂
@dylan9492
@dylan9492 4 ай бұрын
It seems to me like covid is the main reason for the spike in nostalgia trends atm. I think cause everyone had so much time by themselves we all thought about our past and now we still seem stuck in that loop, but maybe I’m just looking at it too deeply.
@indigoskies5434
@indigoskies5434 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for saying something cause it’s getting hella annoying
@roguefranky7145
@roguefranky7145 4 ай бұрын
Great video 👍. For me, the flash movie had the worst nostalgia bait I have ever seen.
@AbbieRee
@AbbieRee 4 ай бұрын
oh I haven't seen that yet! will have to check it out with the teen wolf movie! thank you for your comment :)
@sadtimesalways
@sadtimesalways 4 ай бұрын
worst nostalgia bait from a superhero movie nerd perspective - probably the flash 2023. there was a scene near the end where they showed a lot of cameos and all of them were just poorly made cgi characters of old dc movies just looking and saying nothing. most of it was done without the families' permissions too i believe
@AbbieRee
@AbbieRee 4 ай бұрын
Oh wow! I haven’t seen that one yet, will have to give it a watch! Thank you for taking the time to comment I appreciate your time ☺️
@JurassicRod
@JurassicRod 4 ай бұрын
@@AbbieRee That'll be two hours of your life you won't get back.
@MYPOWERSTATION1
@MYPOWERSTATION1 4 ай бұрын
Great upload .Thank you!
@AbbieRee
@AbbieRee 4 ай бұрын
Thank you so much I’m glad you enjoyed! ☺️
@MYPOWERSTATION1
@MYPOWERSTATION1 4 ай бұрын
@@AbbieRee P.S. I hope you get the cleaning job. Good Luck!
@jeffreyonemu1426
@jeffreyonemu1426 4 ай бұрын
The Jurassic World sequels just shoved in the cast from the original series and had them kind of doing their own thing in the corner. The movies were already weak on their own but introducing this whole disjointed sub plot that took time away from the main cast made everything worse. Ps: Hope you get the job 😊
@Gilbert823
@Gilbert823 4 ай бұрын
I would argue no way home wasn't necessarily nostalgia bait and was more of a celebration of Spider-Man in cinema which is why the nostalgia of it was as tastefull as it was and also that it wasn't the main theme of the film as that was Spidey learning that with great power there must also come great responsibility and that Peter's actions have consequences. Im rambling, my point is nostalgia bait can be used pretty well but only as a back drop and this Dr Doom thing.....i just hope he's not the main Doom and they cast a Romani actor for that. PS. Love the channel, i just discovered you and I really like your content.
@rebekahj8662
@rebekahj8662 4 ай бұрын
A note about Disney: they actually do this to up the length of time the IP is under copyright.
@Daldalexii1
@Daldalexii1 4 ай бұрын
2:20 Girl no one can blame you it's the recent batman who made me fall for DC 😂
@AbbieRee
@AbbieRee 4 ай бұрын
😆 It was honestly so great!
@miuhana21
@miuhana21 3 ай бұрын
To me it was Justice League but only Zack Snyder's cut. The og cut was crap.
@Daldalexii1
@Daldalexii1 3 ай бұрын
@@miuhana21 I heard Zack Snyder's cut was great , and about the og one no one can disagree on that fr it was a mess
@clarkraivencandelaria934
@clarkraivencandelaria934 4 ай бұрын
They need to learn the lesson that if a tv show or movie can't be remade perfectly no matter how hard they try then it means that they should've just left it, mean girls was such a classic on it's time era, it's relevance of the theme still stands to this day. Another example is the James bond movies, it may been popular on it's time but in today's culture we're just so burnt out of the quirky spy thrillers.
@luigiboyinblu
@luigiboyinblu 4 ай бұрын
Love how when Abbie talks about Marvel her face changes like if she just licked a lemon
@jack.merkel
@jack.merkel 4 ай бұрын
Is every room you film in perfectly set up to be a beautifully retro studio?! I love the content and the aesthetic is just an added bonus! 😁
@AbbieRee
@AbbieRee 4 ай бұрын
Wow this is honestly so kind of you! I never really think about it to be honest, I tend to film wherever most comfortable. But It’s lovely you think that because most of the time I think it looks a mess! This has made my day thank you so much ☺️
@spider-ty7420
@spider-ty7420 4 ай бұрын
If you liked "the Batman" then don't forget that "the Penguin" is coming out on max in September, I believe it's been confirmed that Robert Pattenson is going to have a cameo in it.
@megansinger517
@megansinger517 4 ай бұрын
The 'member berries meme from South Park was spot on. This might be unpopular but all of the House of the Dragon is annoying nostalgia bait for me. I keep trying to watch it but can't help but feel the attempt at capturing the grandiosity of early Game of Thrones and failing miserably. During an ad break on Amazon Prime when I was watching an episode they had Kit Harrington doing a cringy commercial for a GoT phone game and it was so so sad and weird. They even pulled the "You know nothing John Snow" line 😬
@RED-my9hl
@RED-my9hl 4 ай бұрын
I wouldn't say hotd is nostalgia bait since GOT is not that old and hotd basically saved the ASOIAF universe
@megansinger517
@megansinger517 4 ай бұрын
@@RED-my9hl In my opinion nostalgia bait now includes the early 2010's because GoT was considered one of the last "water cooler shows" and marked the death of prime time TV before the full commencement of over saturated streaming content. I see what you mean though.
@PrettyboyAshtun
@PrettyboyAshtun Ай бұрын
major companies just can’t come up with new original ideas anymore and that sucks because they keep ruining our beloved classics.
@aziziabdrahman7756
@aziziabdrahman7756 4 ай бұрын
Fantastic video as always
@AbbieRee
@AbbieRee 4 ай бұрын
Thank you so much I’m glad you enjoyed!
@aziziabdrahman7756
@aziziabdrahman7756 4 ай бұрын
@@AbbieRee You're welcome :) An example of nostalgia done right in a film is Blade Runner 2049, because it told a fresh new story whilst respecting what made the first film spectacular. Whereas the Star Wars sequel trilogy, on the other hand, is just a cash grab for nostalgia.
@lordfreerealestate8302
@lordfreerealestate8302 3 ай бұрын
Another thing I see more and more is profiting from the parasocial relationships. KPOP, Taylor Swift, and many influencers deliberately cultivate the feeling like they are a part of the lives of their idols. There's a lot of enmeshment between fans and creators/artists and a blurring of private life/public life. Not only does this let them extract more money from fans (esp young ones), but it also can intensify harassment from fans (both against the artist and against anyone who criticizes them). As well as worsening an unhealthy obsession with the rich/powerful that blinds fans to their faults or problematic behaviour. They used to be a byproduct of media consumption and now they are deliberately cultivated and intensified by marketing strategies. I used to be very big into Marvel and Star Wars (and I still love many of their movies/books/comics, don't get me wrong). But the latest wave is disappointing. Oversaturation is a big problem with them, too. It seems like quality over quantity.
@alfiedorner8143
@alfiedorner8143 4 ай бұрын
On the one hand I think Nostalgia hinders true innovation in franchises that sorely need it... but on the other hand I eat it up every single time if it's something I used to love when I was young. Seeing Tobey Maguire as Spider-Man again was a dream come true, Michael Keaton returning as Batman was incredible even in a movie that was lacking in most other places. I even liked Indiana Jones 5, it made me feel so giddy. There's no better example of the power of Nostalgia than Season 3 of Star Trek Picard, they tried to do something unique with the first two seasons, it didn't work, so to re-ignite interest Paramount just made Season 3 the greatest Nostalgia Bait of all time, and most everyone loved it. The only few times in recent memory where Nostalgia Bait didn't work with a series I cared about was with Jurassic World: Dominion and Ghostbusters: Frozen Empire. I love the old cast and it would have been nice to see them again, if only they actually cared about the films they were making, those two films were so bad the nostalgia spell didn't work. If its going to be done then it has to be done properly with everyone involved giving 110% Hope you get the job btw
@AbbieRee
@AbbieRee 4 ай бұрын
Oh interesting thoughts! I do agree I too am a sucker for a good nostalgia bait time to time, spider-man definitely delivered. it is nice revisiting the past but you can definitely tell those who put a lot of passion and love, time into the project from those who are just doing it as a form of “cash grab” Thank you!! Also thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts it means a lot
@barryaldridge1113
@barryaldridge1113 4 ай бұрын
I think nostalgia can be good if done right or if it hasn’t been done for a while. I think the mainstream which I kind of hate to point are probably running out of ideas so they talk to people they know and ask what they miss or they mention it and I can understand but not realising it could have long term effects where you could get bored. For me variety I always go with it where I don’t stick to one landing but try different landings in many different genres whether it is music, film, tv series, video games etc. For me once something goes mainstream I hate to a point of being popular and sometimes being popular isn’t always the best. In short term it can be but once that goes it does hit really hard. On the good for nostalgia I think we need sometimes as long we do it in a health way.
@Linklex7
@Linklex7 4 ай бұрын
Nostalgia bait can work if it comes from a place of love. Deadpool & Wolverine was nostalgia bait coming from a place of love. Marvel/Disney bringing back Robert Downey Jr to play Dr Doom just reeks of desperation that screams “our moves and show suck now and we want you to come back please .”
@mynameisreallycool1
@mynameisreallycool1 4 ай бұрын
I disagree with Deadpool and Wolverine coming from a place of love. It just felt pointless and corny, and it doesn't make sense for him to be alive after Logan. We could've just had another Deadpool movie, that's fine, but Logan didn't need to be there, and they purely brought him back to make more money. It's not like the fans wanted him to come back to life (at least I don't remember fans wanting that). Many fans accepted the ending of the Logan movie.
@11ldevendrakumaragrawal27
@11ldevendrakumaragrawal27 4 ай бұрын
Before the release of movie how could you say it's not coming 'from a place of love'
@furrycheetah
@furrycheetah 4 ай бұрын
​@@mynameisreallycool1Deadpool and Wolverine story is actually about saying goodbye to 21st century Fox company
@ThePrinceofHisOwnKingdom
@ThePrinceofHisOwnKingdom 2 ай бұрын
Nah. DP&W sucked too. Love for whom? Logan had his ending, which was poignant, and this movie freely admits it's tarnishing that. The Xmen needed love. Dark Phoenix sucked ass. Where were they? And this coming from someone who hated the Xmen.
@furrycheetah
@furrycheetah 4 ай бұрын
I am feeling burnout of watching some of those old shows
@zer0953
@zer0953 Ай бұрын
2nd video of yours and i already gotta stop or else im gonn fall in love goddammit 😅
@ntcnetwork9934
@ntcnetwork9934 4 ай бұрын
I think that the RDJ casting could create some really interesting storylines. If done well. It’s not a dead on arrival idea. Also are you excited for Superman and James Gunn’s new DC films? It seems like he’s making almost all the right moves so far, and I’m very excited.
@AbbieRee
@AbbieRee 4 ай бұрын
Definitely! I am really interested in seeing how it all will turn out, with all the right moves it could end up being the comeback of “superhero” movies? Thank you for sharing your thoughts on the topic I really appreciate it ☺️
@ntcnetwork9934
@ntcnetwork9934 4 ай бұрын
@@AbbieRee yes! I hope so too! Not to say superheroes are dead, but some of the more mid ones have definitely stained the reputation lately. Deadpool and Wolverine was a major step in the right direction though. And I’m optimistic that Iger’s quality of quantity motto is true. And you’re welcome! Love your vids!
@FTV1005
@FTV1005 4 ай бұрын
I may or may or not have made a 15 slide PowerPoint presentation about Robert Downey Junior's return to Marvel, I swear I'm relatively sane. Love the video, you should be incredibly proud, have a great day
@AbbieRee
@AbbieRee 4 ай бұрын
Sounds perfectly normal to me
@AbbieRee
@AbbieRee 4 ай бұрын
XD!
@FTV1005
@FTV1005 4 ай бұрын
@AbbieRee thank you, best of luck with the cleaning job
@AbbieRee
@AbbieRee 4 ай бұрын
Thank you!!
@FTV1005
@FTV1005 4 ай бұрын
@AbbieRee always welcome, my best to you and yours
@JurassicRod
@JurassicRod 4 ай бұрын
Not the worst but the most recent nostalgia bait I watched was Alien Romulus. It does nothing to move the franchise forward, just a repeat of the greatest hits from previous movies doing nothing original.
@TrueBozotheclown
@TrueBozotheclown 4 ай бұрын
I love your videos i was in Germany a few days ago and on the tv i was able to open youtube and i watched all of your videos on it
@AbbieRee
@AbbieRee 4 ай бұрын
This is crazy I’m speechless!! Ah wow thank you so much for the support it truly means the world to me ☺️
@inazuma3gou
@inazuma3gou 4 ай бұрын
The worst has to be Snow White or anything from Disney/Marvel/Star Wars Spider Noir is a well-done example of bringing the old WW1ish designto the new media. Laufey is also bring the early miz 1900's jazz to new although I don't listen to her much. Puss in Boots has done a great job of reintepreting fairy tales. "Nostalgia Bait" can work as long as the creators are not making an inferior copy.
@tunnelsnakesrule7541
@tunnelsnakesrule7541 4 ай бұрын
I mean to be fair these aren't as much nostalgia bait as using different styles from prior eras. There isn't much nostalgia for the early 20th century, most have nostalgia for the mid to late 20th century since those were more prosperous times and more people are alive who lived through them today than the early 20th.
@inazuma3gou
@inazuma3gou 4 ай бұрын
@@tunnelsnakesrule7541 Well, don't be so picky. When she talks about fashion in this video, it is more about adapting the styles from prior eras. In the context of movies it is more pure nostalgia bait. In my example, Laufey got her influence from Ella Fitzgerald and Billie Holiday which is early to mid 20th century. You can get nostalgia not from your own lived experience but from the music your parents or grandparents listened to.
@bubblykoi
@bubblykoi 4 ай бұрын
wait made me really upset about robert downey jr is that the character, dr. doom is a romani character. a "new" character for us to see on the big screen, but instead of finding a new actor, a romani actor that can bring in the cultural background of dr. doom, his childhood, his life before, during and after of being dr. doom.. we got rdj. we could as an audience, in the industry, bring an unknown actor with so much talent to offer, an opportunity, representation as well. ik some are saying its a variant of iron man but idk. it just doesn't make sense to ME (btw this is my opinion. some can agree or not which is fine) bring in a variant as the first intro to dr. doom when its not THE dr. doom. idk that's m rant lol
@delix787
@delix787 4 ай бұрын
Honestly, when you’re at a certain age and you have a lot of success, how much MORE money do you need?? I really hope he’s going for the story rather than profit because he has everything he could have at his age right now.
@AbbieRee
@AbbieRee 4 ай бұрын
Interesting point! I do really wonder how it will turn out! Thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts it means a lot to me ☺️
@akelzec
@akelzec 4 ай бұрын
Yes! Another convert for DC!!!
@AbbieRee
@AbbieRee 4 ай бұрын
😆!
@dylansearcy3966
@dylansearcy3966 4 ай бұрын
1:12 marvel is desperate. They were desperate when deadpool and wolverine came which became a success
@monn.y
@monn.y 4 ай бұрын
Every musician and filmmaker is trying to remake the 80s and 90s there is literally NO original ideas anymore. Look at D23 this year every title that they announced was a remake, sequel or prequel even Pixar doesn’t produce new original ideas anymore
@Limozo
@Limozo 4 ай бұрын
Oh wait until you're close to 40 years old, you'll see this only grows and it's been too much for almost 2 decades
@watchdogsplaythroughs9852
@watchdogsplaythroughs9852 4 ай бұрын
Nostalgia bait done right is Deadpool & Wolverine.
@dylansearcy3966
@dylansearcy3966 4 ай бұрын
I think robert downey jr playing dr doom is interesting. Rdj is a really good actor. Him playing dr doom shows he can play more than one role in the mcu. Other actors in the mcu have played more than one character. Actually a lot of actors in either the big screen or little screen have played more than one character. How come we turn a blind eye when the same actor has played a different character in the mcu like Gemma chan? She played a character in captain marvel (a member of the kree race) before playing cerci in the eternals. Also dr doom became iron man in 2016 in civil war 2. Rdj playing another character itself isn't really nostalgia bait it's just him playing another character and he apparently wanted to return to the mcu in some way shape or form
@petermj1098
@petermj1098 4 ай бұрын
Even if you ignore RDJ played Iron Man the casting is crap. RDJ is 5’8 average body 60 year old man. Victor Von Doom is a 6’2 physically fit and imposing man who can beat the crap out you even without his power suit. People continue to miss the point of his character. Now they are going to reduce him to an “evil Iron Man” which is not even true.
@Dilvamp90
@Dilvamp90 4 ай бұрын
Nostalgia is both a good thing and bad thing when bringing back a property that people love can go one of 2 ways you either please the crowd and new comers by making the product well that will appeal to both side or you fail on both fronts that most do these days. Abbie I agree with you about the Pattinson Batman its awesome . Marvel has been going down a downward slope for such a long time i mean have you seen Ant-Man 3 and Thor Love And Thunder good god they are worse than trash 😂😂😂😂
@AbbieRee
@AbbieRee 4 ай бұрын
Definitely! I think it can bring back an old movie/trend for a new audience/generation. I did love the Batman i loved the vibe and cinematography. I’m interested to see what Marvel does next! Thank you so much for taking the time to comment i really appreciate it ☺️
@vanilcheraghi6776
@vanilcheraghi6776 4 ай бұрын
I have one of those old telephones on my desk too :>
@bertvanbeterbed9702
@bertvanbeterbed9702 4 ай бұрын
In cinema, I don't think I've ever liked it, but i get why it happens. Its a safe bet. Why risk money on a new IP when you can just revive an old one? We saw it with Star Wars, Ghost Busters, Ocean's. No matter how bad the PR is before release, it always gets people to the cinema's. I'd prefer it if reboots where aimed at continueing the story somehow, but most of the times it just tries to "recapture the magic". Which means most of the time, it fails. Actors are older, storylines need to be simplified for new viewers, practical effects get replaced for CGI and characters are usually writen as depressed old people that are reminiscing their glory days themselves, so they are going on one last adventure. In a way it always forces me to be even more aware of the passing of time and how times change, which seems to be the opposite of what it is supposed to achieve. To answer the question of the day: The worst type of nostalgia baiting I know is when DJ's takes the melodies of old electronic music, barely update it and add the most bland, stale, meaningless lyrics to make it seem like a new song. I feel its somewhere between tricking older people into getting a song stuck in their head quickly and tricking youngsters into thinking its a completely new thing. Examples include: David Guetta, Bebe Rexha - I'm good & Sam Feldt, Jonas Blue - Crying On The Dancefloor
@AbbieRee
@AbbieRee 4 ай бұрын
Wow I can tell how much thought went into this and I too think that when it comes to introducing a new audience to a franchise sometimes the story and plot takes a nosedive. like you said almost to simplify it and make it more palatable leaving old fans disappointed. I definitely would say there are a lot of musicians that in recent times have used a lot of older samples in their music and it doesn’t always work out. Thank you so much for taking the time to comment it means a lot ☺️
@ChickenBilly-
@ChickenBilly- 4 ай бұрын
Great video, The Batman is better than most mcu movies lately. Can’t blame you for liking DC. I only recently watched the crow for the first time and it was great but this remake looks a bit concerning
@AbbieRee
@AbbieRee 4 ай бұрын
Thank you so much! I did really enjoy the Batman it felt like such a fresh take on the story, I am really interested in seeing how the new crow will turn out. Thank you for sharing your thoughts it means a lot to me ☺️
@ChickenBilly-
@ChickenBilly- 4 ай бұрын
Please let us know how the crow is and if it’s worth seeing in cinema or to wait for it to be on streaming services
@TheDarkSideOfJupiter-h1b
@TheDarkSideOfJupiter-h1b 16 күн бұрын
I’ve seen lots of nostalgia bait on KZbin shorts. People are basically acting like the 1990s, 2000s, and 2010s were the only good decades in human history.
@danswanger9816
@danswanger9816 4 ай бұрын
I like where your heads at in your videos. You should write a screenplay and direct it. You would so own the entertainment industry!
@AbbieRee
@AbbieRee 4 ай бұрын
oh wow thank you! maybe I will one day but it definitely won't be very good !
@danswanger9816
@danswanger9816 4 ай бұрын
@@AbbieRee I would love to see your voice be heard to the masses, maybe you could wake some folks up. How about something along the lines of a bio pic about B.Traven?!!
@Vixctor13
@Vixctor13 4 ай бұрын
I like playing older games for the nostalgia. I don't quite enjoy the remakes of old games where they add or change things in the plot. I just wish they would make the games playable on newer platforms.
@AbbieRee
@AbbieRee 4 ай бұрын
Oh interesting, I never really thought of the impact of nostalgia on games! Thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts ☺️
@petrichor_and_fire
@petrichor_and_fire 4 ай бұрын
Ikr, I've not been keeping up with mcu ever since the last black pantyer movie released, and now deadpool and Wolverine is making me wanna catch up with all of it (for the storyline and stuff) even though i know it's shit 😭
@AbbieRee
@AbbieRee 4 ай бұрын
I have to admit I did really enjoy deadpool and wolverine! But I still am very confused with the whole universe timeline stuff 😆 thank you for taking the time to comment I really appreciate it ☺️
@petrichor_and_fire
@petrichor_and_fire 4 ай бұрын
@@AbbieRee thanks for replying too! You make great vids!!
@AJ-xc4qe
@AJ-xc4qe 4 ай бұрын
It took me a few minutes to process that this wasn’t Marvel trolling like they usually do. Honestly, a better and even PERFECT idea to bring him and other actors back would be to bring the Supreme Intelligence back! The Supreme Intelligence takes the appearance of whoever the viewer admires meaning they can be played by anyone! I don’t care that Carol killed them. We’re in the Multiverse era; they can have their own variant. Maybe they know they’re doing and it’s not desperate. We have two more years to figure it out
@AbbieRee
@AbbieRee 4 ай бұрын
Ooh great thoughts! I mean to be honest with the multiverse anything seems to be possible! But I do wonder what the future of the marvel looks like. Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts I really appreciate it ☺️
@darkaxel1991
@darkaxel1991 4 ай бұрын
Worst nostalgia bait I've seen? WalMart is selling Nirvana t-shirts. Considering WalMart forced artists to release censored versions of their albums for sale in Wal-Mart stores it's obvious. Anybody remember "Waif Me"?
@AbbieRee
@AbbieRee 4 ай бұрын
I have to admit I agree, I have a nirvana t-shirt but almost never wear it because I see so many being sold with lots of people wearing them who have no idea who they are! My cousin was wearing one a few weeks ago and I said “oh you like nirvana!” And he had no idea who they were. Thank you for your comment I really appreciate it ☺️
@JurassicRod
@JurassicRod 4 ай бұрын
Western culture is dying. There is very little new talent. Just look at movies, TV and comic books over the last decade. Nostalgia bait is really all the companies have left. Most modern media, art and fashion is bland. Hence people are going back to older media and fashion that had a spark of creativity, style and energy to it. There is also a longing for a time when the West was a nicer place to live.
@JasperLane
@JasperLane 4 ай бұрын
Sticking just to movies and shows since I don't care about fashion and I am not super into music. I don't think that the current issues facing Hollywood is that they are relying on nostalgia too much these days, I think it is a symptom of a far more serious problem, and that is the writing for these shows/movies is just garbage and often not fun. The people being put into positions of writing these movies are not good or talented and when you have someone of such little skill using a brand can mitigate some of the issues that come with that. If you're doing a sequel then at the very least characters are already made for you with their own personality with a history of the kind of story that should be made. Yet maybe the writer is so bad you do not trust them doing even that, well a remake is an even better option! It already has a script you just need to copy and paste that and your good because they are not actually writers they are leeches. Yet this alone is not the only issue, after all, if these people did just copy and paste the original work then we would still be getting good movies, but these "writers" for some reason think they are capable of writing and think they can do better. It is why every single Disney live action remake has been worse, because they think they can do better and in the process they muck it all up and they are to prideful to just copy what came before it. This is what I think is the main issues, a serious lack of talent and skill in Hollywood at this moment. As for RDJ coming back as Doom, lets not forget that even if he did find sucess in Openhimer most of RDJs work has not exactly been a success. Dolittle, Love and Distrust, and plenty of others have either underperformed or are just bad. Nothing coming close to his time as Ironman, I think in a way this is him chasing that same scale in a similar yet different way, but also I bet Disney offered him a cubic fuckton of money. Like good God he was paid $75 million in Endgame so he might be on his way to breaking the record for most amount of Money a single actor has been paid for one movie.
@dylansearcy3966
@dylansearcy3966 4 ай бұрын
2:06 tobey's spider-man came out in 2002 and andrew's spider-man came out in 2012
@liamgriffiths9494
@liamgriffiths9494 4 ай бұрын
Nostalga can be a positive but also a negative. Good video Abbie
@AbbieRee
@AbbieRee 4 ай бұрын
Definitely! Thank you so much I really appreciate it ☺️
@liamgriffiths9494
@liamgriffiths9494 4 ай бұрын
​@@AbbieReenice rabbit and good luck with the job.
@AbbieRee
@AbbieRee 4 ай бұрын
@@liamgriffiths9494 thank you!!
@Dilvamp90
@Dilvamp90 4 ай бұрын
i am so excited for Beetlejuice Beetlejuice my nostalgia is going wild and i will be watching the first one right before watching going to the cinema
@AbbieRee
@AbbieRee 4 ай бұрын
I too am really looking forward into seeing how it turns out!! Thank you for taking the time to comment I really appreciate it :)
@ntcnetwork9934
@ntcnetwork9934 4 ай бұрын
I think nostalgia bait is at its worst when a character shows up, doesn’t do anything, and then immediately dies. Stuff like the Arrowverse or Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness. I find most nostalgia bait hate to be a little over blown and hive mind ish. Some people seems to complain about sequels literally featuring any references to past movies whatsoever, even though the movie itself is largely different, which is so odd to me. A good example being Ghostbusters: Afterlife.
@AbbieRee
@AbbieRee 4 ай бұрын
Interesting points! There does seem to be a line between using it in a good way to introduce it to a new audience/generation but when it’s just done for money it comes across very unoriginal and uninspired! Thank you for your comment on the topic I really do appreciate it ☺️
@ntcnetwork9934
@ntcnetwork9934 4 ай бұрын
@@AbbieRee for sure! There’s a lotta nuance that I think “film bros” are missing by buying into the narrative that “all nostalgia is bad, all sequels are bad” blah blah blah. That kinda thing. I know someone who’s like that, and she doesn’t like No Way Home only because it brought back older actors. Made her completely numb to the actual movie for some reason. Dumb mindset imo!
@patrickgroening5664
@patrickgroening5664 3 ай бұрын
Im definitely feeling fatigue towards this nostalgic trend but tbh I think that is just the style of the 2020s. Once we hit the 2030s in sure I will miss this decade the same way i miss the 2010s. At a certain point I think you just have to realize that no matter what time you live in the past will always seem like it was better when in reality it never was. People hated the 2010s but now they it’s gone suddenly we all miss it.
@vdvd7312
@vdvd7312 4 ай бұрын
ms thing its not nostaliga baiting because its nostalgia and memories you never had.
@dylansearcy3966
@dylansearcy3966 4 ай бұрын
2:39 jurassic world dominion
@saito46
@saito46 4 ай бұрын
Lovely work... I only hope you realise how meta your subject is 😆😉
@AbbieRee
@AbbieRee 4 ай бұрын
The fact that I had to google what that meant is so sad. I am a sucker for nostalgia!
@HouseofJello
@HouseofJello 4 ай бұрын
Speaking of 4:3 aspect ratio... why are you using it?
@AbbieRee
@AbbieRee 4 ай бұрын
It’s mainly because I film using my laptop webcam and it just automatically films in that aspect ratio but in all honestly I could film on my phone idk why I don’t, but it tends to make it a lot easier with my mic ☺️
@IdfkIdfcYolo
@IdfkIdfcYolo 4 ай бұрын
New star wars movies and show
@MartinMarsano
@MartinMarsano 2 ай бұрын
Looks like everyone forgot about Kang.
@gilbertglitch6309
@gilbertglitch6309 4 ай бұрын
Trust me DC will be making a comeback while Marvel slowly sinks due to its over indulgence.
@AbbieRee
@AbbieRee 4 ай бұрын
Dc has definitely made some great films recently!
@brucewayne3536
@brucewayne3536 4 ай бұрын
Not controversial, DC is tha bomb Also your videos are great!
@AbbieRee
@AbbieRee 4 ай бұрын
It really do be delivering recently!
@AcyraxJ
@AcyraxJ 4 ай бұрын
@@AbbieReenot trying to troll or start an argument, I’m just genuinely curious…..based on what? What are they delivering?
@brucewayne3536
@brucewayne3536 4 ай бұрын
@@AcyraxJ Batman
@Dilvamp90
@Dilvamp90 3 ай бұрын
hey, its been awhile seen i seen you pop up here hope your well lovely just thought i would let you know i watched Beetlejuice Beetlejuice i really enjoyed it
@evoken1216
@evoken1216 3 ай бұрын
Oppleheimer
@allahumaameen
@allahumaameen 4 ай бұрын
It's sad to me that this day and age peole have to apologize for enjoying DC over Marvel in any capacity. I love both but, DC was the originators, the A team, the big boys on the block and overral most of the stuff Marvel is known for today was rip off of DC and they did most of it first. NOT all but MOST, this is a fact.. outside of the few standouts like Spiderman, Hulk X-men, Blade. Cap. Amer, Thor, black Widow were a non-factor to most outside of Comic enthusiasts /superhero fans. I had to say my peace, as if it wasn't for MCU, Marvel would still be second fiddle. 🙄 Just a reminder for some of ya'll. Put some 'spect on DC name.
@StrawberryPavlova1
@StrawberryPavlova1 3 ай бұрын
Can you make a video on just your adorable rabbit please? ❤
@AbbieRee
@AbbieRee 3 ай бұрын
He is currently writing an autobiography. and appreciates the compliments 😆 in all seriousness he actually has a really interesting story about how he came into my life so maybe one day I will!
@StrawberryPavlova1
@StrawberryPavlova1 3 ай бұрын
@@AbbieRee I'd absolutely love to hear it! I had bunnies for over ten years, he has a big fan here!
@AbbieRee
@AbbieRee 3 ай бұрын
@@StrawberryPavlova1 oh wow that’s incredible !
@notthegreatestdetective
@notthegreatestdetective 3 ай бұрын
can't think of the worst form of nostalgia bait i've seen recently, though i'm not happy about things like Hugh Jackman coming back or RDJ as Dr. Doom, but i will say another media you didn't touch on is video games, alot of them have been made in the style of older games and i feel like they're often trying to capitalize on people who grew up in the 80's or 90's
@NostalgiaBaitPodcast
@NostalgiaBaitPodcast 2 ай бұрын
This feels personal... 👀
@CooperPurcell
@CooperPurcell Ай бұрын
I feel like Eminem is trying so hard right now to cling back to what he got popular for by saying “controversial” things when we have all moved passed that type of music and saying stuff just to get a reaction
@katgreer6113
@katgreer6113 4 ай бұрын
People don't give new content a chance and then complain. Ticket sales don't lie. If many nostalgia bait movie does well, they'll keep doing it. People are interested. Another thing I'd like to note is that nostalgia bair started cranking up HEAVILY after the pandemic.
@tunnelsnakesrule7541
@tunnelsnakesrule7541 4 ай бұрын
Yeah, I think it really depends on budgets. We've had new things come out and do super well, but they're still under the radar and relatively small films with budgets under 10 million dollars. There's demand for new concepts and idea, we just need people to actually make them.
@CarloRaffaelli85
@CarloRaffaelli85 4 ай бұрын
Hope you get that cleaning job, good luck :)
@AbbieRee
@AbbieRee 4 ай бұрын
Thank you!! ☺️
@markroxas7104
@markroxas7104 4 ай бұрын
Rabbit!
@AbbieRee
@AbbieRee 4 ай бұрын
He loves the camera I have to say !
@ltee1233
@ltee1233 4 ай бұрын
Eminem is not back. Eminem never went away. It’s slim shady who made his return
@AbbieRee
@AbbieRee 4 ай бұрын
Very true.
@TheWrestlingful
@TheWrestlingful 4 ай бұрын
But dawg...Wolverine said fuck....and muh old characters I never cared for showed up to be the butt of joke in movie where Wolverine said fuck dawg.... Keep paying for your Inside Out 5's, Deapool nostalgia-thons, and Spider-Man: Lazy writing with nostalgia! It's okay. Movies like Longlegs or Didi or Furiosa will be thrown to the way side meanwhile....
@deezers8304
@deezers8304 4 ай бұрын
Nostalgia bait in modern gaming almost feels like a feature of the medium now. Its becoming increasingly rare (outside of indie games) to find games that aren't remakes, remasters, re-imaginings, reboots, re-releases or sequels of previously established IP. I mean every game that was up for game of the year last year could fall into one of these categories. Its not too big an issue for now as video games are still a relatively new and rapidly developing form of entertainment meaning that nostalgia can be used in unique ways that haven't yet been seen in the medium, like with Final Fantasy 7's remake using the players knowledge of the pre-existing story to defy their expectations of what's to come, but its only a matter of time until the frequent attempts at nostalgia bait become trite and overplayed as it is with other mediums.
@danicolour603
@danicolour603 2 күн бұрын
The 2000s tribute is killing me. It's time for millenial culture to pass
@DannyGunners
@DannyGunners 4 ай бұрын
Marvel cast RDJ for Doctor Doom because they need someone as smart to go against (Pedro Pascals) Reed Richards. Really excited to see how they're going to work on that casting. You can sometimes see which projects are being made with the intentions for cash grab. With music, I am so happy that Charlie xcx is releasing hyper pop cause this whole generation needs that. The same with other artist releasing more upbeat music Really Enjoy the video!!
@AbbieRee
@AbbieRee 4 ай бұрын
Interesting points! I am looking forward to seeing what the future holds with these films, like you said most of the time people see through the projects that are just cash grabs. Same I’m so glad Charlie XCX is finally getting the love she deserves! Thank you for sharing your thoughts it means a lot ☺️
@bobsbuurgers3714
@bobsbuurgers3714 4 ай бұрын
Nostalgia has always been a part of Hollywood... But RDJ aint it. There have been multiple actors who played different characters in the same franchise, whats the big deal? Do you know how Tony and Victor are connected in the comics? and Marvel is currently in the *MULTIVERSE SAGA* which means infinite versions of everyone and everything are possible. Lmao but dont do any research or anything, just parrot whatever youve heard.
@petermj1098
@petermj1098 4 ай бұрын
Dr Doom is Dr Doom. Dr Doom is not an evil Iron Man which Disney is gonna market the character as. Stop using a what if story as an excuse for this terrible casting. Stop using multiverse as an excuse for shit writing and decisions.
@AbbieRee
@AbbieRee 4 ай бұрын
I agree I do think that there have been many actors playing different roles in the same universe, im interested in seeing it! Thanks for your comment
@Beach600
@Beach600 4 ай бұрын
Halooo
@AbbieRee
@AbbieRee 4 ай бұрын
Hellooo
@pulihansu
@pulihansu 4 ай бұрын
Yes, DC movies have a better vibe and better stories, for example my favorite movie ever - The Dark Knight. It has one of the most perfect scripts
@AbbieRee
@AbbieRee 4 ай бұрын
The dark night is definitely one of dc best movies I’m my opinion! Thank you for sharing your thoughts ☺️
@pulihansu
@pulihansu 3 ай бұрын
@@AbbieRee its probably the best superhero movie ever
@vash47
@vash47 4 ай бұрын
not a fan of the editing, too adhd, sorry
@AbbieRee
@AbbieRee 4 ай бұрын
Okay thanks for the feedback 🙂
@jamjohn2023
@jamjohn2023 4 ай бұрын
As you said, there's nothing inherently wrong with nostalgia bait. It's usually just a problem of poor writing. Problems start to arise when studios think that nostalgia can serve as a replacement for a good story. That was the case for Deadpool and wolverine for me. Let's hope it's not the case for Avengers
@AbbieRee
@AbbieRee 4 ай бұрын
Definitely! I think most the time studios go into it with good intentions but can become clouded by ideas of bringing something back that doesn’t always add to the story. Thank you so much for letting me know your thoughts I really appreciate it! ☺️
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