Not All Hot Air Stations Are Same!

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NOTE: A viewer asked a great question: "Are the stations the same power in WATTS?".
The answer: NO. The one with the fan is 700W, and the one with the piston pump is 600W. So the better performing one is actually weaker in WATTS. I completely forgot to say that in the video, I'm sorry.
Sorry about not uploading for a while. I got a new job and the adaptation period didn't really allow me to focus on KZbin at all. I'm back now and I've just finished editing some of the videos I've made a while ago. This is the first one.

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@e_system33 Жыл бұрын

The fan version does its job very well for non-intense applications. It remains affordable for non-professionals.

@Syncopia 11 ай бұрын

Exactly, as someone fixing their own phones and GPUs at home, it works well enough.

@Tim_Shippam 5 ай бұрын

I'd completely agree! I've got one and it does everything I need it to do! And I've used mine in anger as well it did very well!

@onesikm3 3 ай бұрын

Thanks this is what I came here to see 😊 plus The fan one I’m about to buy at the moment is using a brushless fan so I’m sure it’s going to be the most gangster $6 of Chinisium I’ve bought

@exgenica 11 ай бұрын

A fan speed setting of "six, whatever that means" immediately invalidates any test if one doesn't know the L/min output at the nozzel for the setting(s). There is no way to determine how a setting of "six, whatever that means" affects the air output from different designs, so it could be your setting rather than anything related to the pump type that is causing one to take longer than the other. Example: Perhaps one needs a speed setting of 8 on the one unit to provide the same air volume output and temperature as a speed setting of 6 provides with the other unit.

@ComradeMario 7 ай бұрын

True

@d347hw15h 7 ай бұрын

Not to say that we also don't know how accurate the temperature display is

@Arick_Lee 6 ай бұрын

...but this one goes to eleven..😂

@budavaril 4 ай бұрын

I just did a quick research. On Amazon and other multiple websites, I found the same details: the Baku 858a claims a maximum 120l/min airflow with that fan. (I guess it's a standard 4020 blower fan) Instead of that, in the Baku 701b specification, they wrote "just" 0.3-24l/min. Very interesting.. I believe not just the air flow, but the pressure also matters. The huge difference is that, if anything obstructs the airflow,(you must keep close enough to the component) the fan version immediately will reduces the airflow, until the (diaphragm) pump version still will press trough the same constant amount of air just with higher pressure. (Because both knob can set from 0-8, in both case we can expect 75% airflow if both set to 6. The conclusion is, the pump version truly gives you 18l/min airflow even there is some resistance from the MB and the FET, however the 90l/min expected from the fan version is totally false in any condition.)

@exgenica 4 ай бұрын

@@budavaril Thanks much for sharing your research and analysis!

@ryanokeefe12 Жыл бұрын

The fan type unit pushes more air than you will ever need for standard electronics work. You don't need to blow the part off of the board.

@RolandV3922 8 ай бұрын

True, but with one caveat: if using the smallest nozzle, the cheap one will not have enough air flow to desolder an SMD resistor. Speaking from experience.

@ryanokeefe12 8 ай бұрын

@@RolandV3922 That's not the case at all.. It will still have more than enough airflow to blow the whole part off of the board. I'd check that you're not blocking the air intake with your hand.

@NicksStuff 8 ай бұрын

Try doing larger BGAs with it

@ryanokeefe12 8 ай бұрын

@@NicksStuff Again, there is nearly too much air speed.. The temperature is no different either. This is no different to the cheap vs expensive soldering iron thing.. they both supply heat through a tip. Just some have more features and are nicer to use. They will both do the same job.

@NicksStuff 8 ай бұрын

@@ryanokeefe12 Can you show us how you reball a chipset with the cheap unit?

@tomtyler7058 Жыл бұрын

One problem, I am unable to find the piston unit, everything available seems to be fan-driven!

@rafi5298 4 ай бұрын

Older tech used diaphram (piston) pump

@LimbaZero 4 ай бұрын

When listening video it didn't sound like pump. Station what I have (Aoyue 2738) has clear pump sound that would have been on record. So I think both in this video is using normal fan. Blower fan in handle and bigger axial fan in station.

@ronrader4798 9 ай бұрын

I purchased one with fan in the handle from Amazon. Worked it good when I first got it just practice desoldering parts, died in less than 2 weeks. Returned it, spent a little more and got one with the fan in the main unit. So much better and hasn't left me down yet. I suggest if you do buy one, work it hard the first 2 weeks to make sure it holds up and you aren't out of the return period.

@rodiona8781 9 ай бұрын

Which one did you return and which one did you replace it with?

@ronrader4798 9 ай бұрын

@@rodiona8781 One I returned was Prostormer 120V Digital Display Heat Gun with 3 Sets Stored Temperature and Sleep Mode which was about $50. Replaced it with Aoyue 852A++ Digital SMD Hot Air Rework Station which was about $130. This was back in 2022.

@Dinesh-Bhardwaj 5 ай бұрын

@@rodiona8781You got eyes or not?

@richard-df6pr Жыл бұрын

if the slower one is considerably cheaper and only going to be used once in a while then whats the issue

@fuzzs8970 2 ай бұрын

I own one with a fan. I think it's an issue since you going to apply heat to the component for longer time and the risk of damaging it increases. However to avoid that i would use low melt solder or cover the legs with solder

@solidstate90 14 күн бұрын

When I started to get into BGA Rework, I had both these stations (Atten 850D & 858D) I can tell you from my experience that neither one of these stations are useful for modern day "Lead Free" professional Rework. I had the idea that since the 850D was more expensive it must be a "Pro" level piece of equipment, which may have been the case 15+ years ago, but not so much today. I struggled with that damn pump station for months when first starting out which was very discouraging, the stupid pump just cannot put out enough air to be a realistic option when everything now days is using lead free solder. If your looking to get into rework or you have a 858D and would like to take board level repair more serious, get something like an ATTEN ST-862D Or QUICK 861DW.

@Zany_Fiasco Жыл бұрын

Seems to be an increase in price of rework stations, well in Canadian dollars they are $130+ with a hose connection. Most that I see under $80 are ones that use a fan. What my take away from this is... if I am not going to be doing professional work for others and just need to replace an analog stick on a controller when they wear down every 3 months or so, the cheaper option for heat guns would be fine and get the job done(just not as efficiently). I can see why one would need a better equipment if they are working with fixing electronics regularly for their work or hobby. Time is their limiting factor of how much work can be done in a day. More work done = more money or more learning depending on the skill level.

@NoBozosAllowed 10 ай бұрын

I have a Yihua 952D+ with 19.5 diameter heating element, burnt out and unobtainable...anyone know where I might find one? I've checked TEMU, Allied Express, and Ebay all I can find are the 22" diameters.

@luckywetland 7 ай бұрын

Honestly I find it bizarre because I have the cheaper one with a fan, and it's as fast as the faster one you have. The one I use is Yihua 959D II rework station... and I usually set the temp to 330 C and airflow about... well, I dunno the lowest setting? since I don't have that fancy percentage option. Probably the slower one you have needs a fan replacement... maybe?

@marcinp.8108 5 ай бұрын

It depends what makes airflow fro the unit. Some usrs centrifugal fan, others membrane pump. Membrane pump makes "pops" of air that makes work more difficult (it can blow out small elements).

@ypoora1 Жыл бұрын

It depends, over here the professional kind with the integrated pumps/large blower fans are a LOT pricier than the little fan handle ones. The fan handle ones also get a lot better than the 858a/858d clones. I just got a Yihua 959D-II after my no-name brand 858d bit the dust and i'm very pleased for the occasional use i give it. To sum it up, the fan handle kind is absolutely fine, as long as you're not doing this as a career so there's no time pressure. It just takes a bit longer.

@RiedegDesign Жыл бұрын

Wow, thank you it was a big learning - now i know what i want for X-mas. Greetings from Germany.

@quantumchang4410 Жыл бұрын

Why do you want so much air to push through? Do you want to blow your components off the moment the solder melts?

@milanfixer Жыл бұрын

You can regulate that without a problem. More air volume carries more heat to the components. More air volume doesn't necessarily mean more air pressure (air pressure is dependent on the diameter of your nozzle - the smaller the diameter, you'll generate more pressure to push the same volume of air through it, unlike with the larger nozzle). My point was that the fan isn't pushing the same volume of air efficiently through the nozzle, like the vacuum pump would (most air pushed by the fan can "bleed" through the handle).

@Bulllyura Ай бұрын

Smaller diameter is more speed, but lower pressure, if volume is same

@PAWANSINGH-im2wo Ай бұрын

Right

@PAWANSINGH-im2wo Ай бұрын

@@milanfixerif pressurized air go through small hole then its temperature will be down simple science

@stefanpejak9131 16 күн бұрын

Both are completely usable. It's technician's preference which one to use...

@arisrobles3363 10 ай бұрын

I have the 858 hot air. I modded it to have a higher airflow. I had just replaced the 27k resistor with 18k on the tip31 speed controller inside the control board. The standard voltage of the fan is about 5 to 6v that's to low for a better airflow. Now after modding i get around 9 to 10v and it do pretty well.

@Fhokerfhaze 6 ай бұрын

Actually its not a piston inside,, its just an enclosed brushless fan, this fan handle built model had some models with brushless fan also,,, these more expensive ones have more powerful heating element in them and also their power supply play a huge part in their performance especially if they were driven by iron core transformer

@Bulllyura Ай бұрын

No, it has membrane in side, and it can be use not only to push air, it can make vacuum to holder or desoldering tool.

@NurPat 2 күн бұрын

How is it called? The version without fan.

@publikz_com Ай бұрын

ok but this with pump have smaller length ... and its more complex to got it to work while your have lot of equip around.

@ashscott6068 7 ай бұрын

You have to make sure the inlets for the fan never become blocked with dust. It's happened to me. The element overheats and burns through the mica insulation, then shorts on the metal shroud, so turning it on trips your circuit breaker. Fortunately mica insulation sheets are cheap as dirt, but it's still a problem you can run into. Especially at low fan speeds and if the dust is inside the fan, where you don't notice it. That's really the only reason for pistons. The fan has more air flow than you will ever need. Mine never once went above the 2 on the dial.

@BasicComputerRepair Жыл бұрын

My Sumsour hót air with dần in the handle is a beast. I plan on getting the pump version because they are usally higher quality. But my cheapo hot air that I have used for 2 years is just fine.

@milanfixer Жыл бұрын

It is OK, the fan version can be useful. But once you get the pump version, you'll definitely see the difference. Good luck mate 👍

@nialled Ай бұрын

Very helpful video, thank you. As newb to hot air stations, I would have found it very useful if you could have put the model numbers for the two stations in the description amd shown an image of the base units

@superbadmofo1 23 күн бұрын

Would recommend the lesser brand for begginers to learn??

@NextLevelAutoDiagnosticsLLC Жыл бұрын

Where can I buy the Baku with the piston pump in the USA?

@Alan_Skywalker Жыл бұрын

The difference is very noticeable when using a large nozzle on a thick board.

@milanfixer Жыл бұрын

True. But sometimes using a large nozzle is not the option. You might blow away small components of the board. Throwing away kapton tape for a small solder job is not worth it in the long run. That's why volume is key in most cases.

@NicksStuff 8 ай бұрын

That $55 station seems to be $200 now... I cannot find a cheap (like $50-70) station with the fan or pump in the base :-(

@milanfixer 8 ай бұрын

I know what you mean. They just became unavailable all of a sudden... No idea why. In my country they are only available from local scalpers (who buy from Aliexpress and sell them for a higher price)... If you're not in a hurry, wait a little longer. Cause they'll definitely be back.

@GRBtutorials 27 күн бұрын

Yeah, that’s what I was wondering… if it was $55 it would almost be a no-brainer (there’s also desktop real estate to consider, though)

@PunkNDisorderlyGamer 25 күн бұрын

I replace SMD component all the time with the cheap fan hot air unit and it works well. Plus if the fan or heating element ever fails I can replace the hand piece instead of replacing a piston pump.

@SkippiiKai 11 күн бұрын

Anyone who needs either one of those hot air station already has the knowledge to hack the little fan and double it's output.

@DudeWithFPV 8 ай бұрын

how much C are u using for soldering ? on left side air station? 0:38 and what is fan speed? and how much time needs to melt?

@kakkoishonen 10 ай бұрын

The fan version is better for reballing chips with BGA balls. But it can be very useful for big boards if you have a preheater. If you have a preheater, you don't need a Air Gun with Air Pump because the main basics of working on big PCB boards is that you always have to use a preheater to preheat the full board and a minimum heat from the air gun to avoid chip destruction by heat. For the fan version of hot air guns the 8018D is pretty good because it uses a better fan and a better fan position compared to the 858D version.

@jamesthreats5800 4 ай бұрын

Thanks for the valuable info.

@Chezgatt2000 Жыл бұрын

Não tenho certeza, mas talvez você tenha retirado o componente com mais rapidez pois já estava quente e bem ao lado do outro que você removeu anteriormente

@arraialp Жыл бұрын

exatamente por muito que ele tenha assoprado a pcb ja elevou muito sua temperatura espanlhando bem o calor isso é meio caminho andado para remover o outro mosfet que ele ainda por cima escolheu ser ao mesmo lado do outro se ele tentasse remover o 2 mosfet com a mesma pistola de ar que removeu o 1 seria bem mais rapido que o primeiro outro erro é não usar o fluxo pastoso que ajuda e muito a remover os componentes.

@jhonasaugusto1 Жыл бұрын

Ele diz no começo que ele iria deixar esfriar para tentar novamente com a outra pistola

@RamKumar-zn6vj 6 ай бұрын

Most of the times, I keep my fan based blower at half the speed. Why do I need a piston based hi-flow air blower? I want to solder components and I am not interested in deep frying them.

@Bulllyura Ай бұрын

Membrane pump is more stability air flow in minimum volume settings and it can be use for vacuum too. Normally if you use hot air gun solder you preheat your board and close elements near the working area

@aspirin4279 2 ай бұрын

What is the blue rubber mat he has is called???

@LanceColton Ай бұрын

DuraTech Large Soldering Mat

@slappy76 8 ай бұрын

Can you please include the link or model numbers in your description? I tried looking up Haku 701B and couldn't find that model.

@milanfixer 8 ай бұрын

It's Baku 701B - but I don't know if they're still available. When I Google them, they're unavailable on Aliexpress and Amazon.

@cerealtech4138 10 ай бұрын

yes ofc you are right, the station with the air pump is superior, but I have pretty consistent results with the cheap one, I just make sure tu use a good flux and (if possible) I add a lower melt temp solder to the pad of the components I want to remove before blasting it with the hot air gun, and you're good to go...

@questions703 3 ай бұрын

Hello. I'm hoping to make a hot air station. I want to order the 858d pcb for the station. Do you know if it's possible to hook it up with the diaphragm pump heat gun or can I only stick with the fanned heat gun? The fan heat gun comes with the 858d pcb by default on off the shelf rework stations.

@2010stoof 5 ай бұрын

So where does one get a "good" pump one?

@aayushsapra3982 6 ай бұрын

i just bought the 858 for 18 Dollars here in India (they are made here) , and now I am wondering my decision. shall I talk about exchange with the seller?

@milanfixer 6 ай бұрын

@@aayushsapra3982 Man, if you're a not a professional, it'll serve you very well. But if you are working on more than 10 boards a day, consider an upgrade (just to save time). Don't worry about it too much mate.

@aayushsapra3982 6 ай бұрын

@@milanfixer ill mostly use it for heat shrink tube and removing/ replacing components once a month maybe.

@milanfixer 6 ай бұрын

@@aayushsapra3982 in that case it'll be perfect for you. May you use it in good health 😁

@Mods-Lover 4 ай бұрын

Which make model you purchased?

@DrBeat-zs9eb 5 ай бұрын

1:06 this sentence is wrong - the opposite is the case. Otherwise you are right of course. But big volume instead of big pressure is always made using a fan, not a piston. The difference clearly comes down to the totally fake "700W" that are maybe 300 at best or the low air volume due to the cone shaped air path (fan hat not enought pressure)

@paul.dev76 Жыл бұрын

Use the old one to make a bottom side heater with an angle 90 metal corner

@osst12 6 ай бұрын

Helical and vertical wind pattern. Was told for large ics helical one with the fan one is better. Really popular in mobile cpu removal and reball. Vertical with the piston pump is good for small components to quickly remove small smd cap before the board heats up. Maybe their use case is important to not kill the ic due to overheating.

@dodgydruid Жыл бұрын

I bought recently a rework station which has soldering iron and hot air gun operating from a variable central unit. The reason I chose it, is the design is totally modular, either part can be switched on and off independently, has a clear and somewhat accurate gauge to indicate temp and power, the iron and gun are replaceable and the iron uses standard current tech tips so functionality all the way and repairability all the way as well. I actually now run this in a trinity with my other two irons, I have my heavy duty Lidl Parkside mains powered with a thick chisel tip, I have a variable Katsu solder station with a medium cone tip and the rework with a microfine tip plus have on the way a crows beak tip for them hard to reach places. As for the gun, yes it is the fan type but it does the job and replacement elements and fans are easily found so again the repairability, heck its cheap but does the job and I flux up on removing stuff as the flux really helps spread the heat under the area worked on :)

@John-gm8ty Жыл бұрын

so could we all have a model number or link to the "good" one please?

@milanfixer Жыл бұрын

Sadly no. The particular one I have is not available anymore for some reason... I wasn't really recommending a specific hot air station, but more of a type of hot air stations out there. Just look at the hot air gun when browsing hot air stations and just make sure that they have a hose attached to them (that they don't have a fan inside the handle) and you'll be golden 👍

@John-gm8ty Жыл бұрын

@@milanfixer Thank you kindly for letting me know, best of luck with everything.

@Techisol Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the watts information in the description. Perfect description

@Rbkretouch 6 ай бұрын

I was looking for the quality one. I just want to get it for desoldering CPU socket(PC motherboard). I dont know which one to get. which one would you recommend to use for motherboard socket desoldering?

@DanijausBasado 3 ай бұрын

para principiantes y gente que recien empieza la barata es buena, de hecho con la practica sbes que tiempo o que anivel de aire usar. tienen su truco-.

@joshygaminghub7428 Ай бұрын

The longer the heat the longer it will stress the SMD component you are trying to desolder and resolder, that is the issue on the fan type

@noguardrails47 Жыл бұрын

I'd like your opinion - which would you own if you could only use one or the other of these two hot air tools. The Quick 957dw+ or the YIHUA 959D please?

@milanfixer Жыл бұрын

Definitely the Quick! 😊

@noguardrails47 Жыл бұрын

@@milanfixer Thanks. All I could afford was the Yihua . I'm hoping to use it for dc jack removal, which i will do rarely. I have a Dell Latitude AIO 5490 that has a bad dc jack that I plan to replace using the 959d. Other than that I might do a rare dc jack replacement on a laptop. Think it will do the job? Thanks!

@milanfixer Жыл бұрын

@@noguardrails47 Oh definitely, my friend! It will do the job just fine. It will also serve you well, because you'll use it rarely. If you plan to go pro as a technician, then you should get the better kind because it'll save you a lot of time 👍 Best of luck to you with the DC jack 🍀

@noguardrails47 Жыл бұрын

@@milanfixer Thanks so much for your videos and your guidance!

@TheHaloman555 6 ай бұрын

I bought one like the video for an hdmi replacement and I couldn’t get the solder to flow at max temp and max airflow nothing 🥲 looks like I need to upgrade and I’ll have a random heat gun for show

@MrHackerDude1 5 ай бұрын

Add low melt solder, it would help

@leobgoo6350 11 ай бұрын

Model numbers & cost? 🤔

@iphonegoes1250 11 ай бұрын

The fan version arent good to work with video card.. but its nice to work with cell smartpho e

@larrymic2526 8 ай бұрын

whats the actual model number of the piston pump one

@2010stoof 5 ай бұрын

Cant find anything but the fan in handle ones unless i spend $120+ USD

@edmundasmiezelis7327 3 ай бұрын

Main problem with that pump based station is weight, and fan based will become better with time because now you can buy micro trubines from vacuums and hair dryers woth ridiculous air capacity.

@WebMonster-jf6eq Жыл бұрын

few more things: as the heating element gets older it will be less efficient. the huge flow of air is useless for most if not all small components, when you need to put them back. the most important thing is the constant temperature of the airflow and the accuracy of the temperature meter. more power in WATTS = more power in removing components.

@milanfixer Жыл бұрын

Yes. For the heating element you are completely right. Since the age of the heating elements is about the same, it makes no difference here. But, since air is the heat delivering medium, flow is really important. More air flow = more heat delivery. So it's really not meaningless. Every calibrated hot air station would be able to recover the lost heat quickly, but the point is heat delivery. If you're hinting at high air pressures being useless (you're right there), there are two great options for any beginners reading this: use a smaller nozzle and turn the airflow down a bit (smaller cross section would increase the pressure to much at the same air flow), or use the same nozzle but move the heat gun away from the board a bit.

@WebMonster-jf6eq Жыл бұрын

@@milanfixer but the cheaper one seem to be heavily used and old and the other one seem to be new? try to check the actual air temperature if you can.

@milanfixer Жыл бұрын

@@WebMonster-jf6eq It was used only 6 times, before I bought the more expensive one. It looks "heavily used" because the air delivered to the heating element was never enough to cool down the nozzle and thermally balance it. Yes. I calibrated them both with a thermocouple, they both deliver a stable temperature (+-5°C). The real reason I made this video is to help everyone save time soldering and desoldering chips using hot air. If you are really so skeptical, buy both of them, calibrate them and try them for yourself. They're both only 90$ and you can always resell them if you don't like them. You'll soon realize why the most prominent repair youtube channels (Louis Rossmann, NorthridgeFix, theCod3r etc.) use 200+$ piston pump hot air stations with 1 inch thick hoses.

@irishguy200007 Жыл бұрын

He also uses at least one Rosmann of Flux

@WebMonster-jf6eq Жыл бұрын

are the stations same power in WATTS? if not, the comparison is not so meaningful

@milanfixer Жыл бұрын

Thank you. I completely forgot to say that (I'll add that in the description). They are not. The one with the fan is 700W and the one with the piston pump is 600W. So the one that performs better is actually weaker in WATTS. Thank you for pointing that out mate 👍😊

@brucewalker1908 Жыл бұрын

What about replace tips for the soldering Iron this is a major selling point if there are any replacements

@platinumsky845 3 ай бұрын

There seems to be some discrepancy between claims, this video claims the higher end Baku is piston driven, but googling and searching for corresponding products I could find the same one both piston, diaphragm, and fan powered with the fan inside the station itself.

@Anime-n4d Жыл бұрын

Which soldering station is best for pro or bussiness purpose like fast and durable

@irishguy200007 Жыл бұрын

How about cutting more air slots on the handle?

@milanfixer Жыл бұрын

That could work, I guess 🤔. I just didn't want to bother with that.

@milanfixer 10 ай бұрын

@Discord-Serwis_Elektroniki_PL Thank you for sharing mate. That could definitely work 👍

@JEV_503 2 ай бұрын

question what is the name of the camera that you use to record and repair

@bigzeeification Жыл бұрын

Greate for content. Thank you. Would be great if you could share a link to where this could be purchased.

@milanfixer Жыл бұрын

I would gladly do that. But this particular hot air station is unavailable everywhere I looked. Just get the one with real temp control, a wide hose and you should be fine. Don't buy the ones with fans within the handle.

@bigzeeification Жыл бұрын

@@milanfixer that's the one I wss referring to, the one with the hose. I already have one with the fan (898D)

@cobamfg9393 Жыл бұрын

Any chance you can put up a link where to obtain the piston one

@jasoncatlyn7331 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the info. Very helpful. 🙏

@thesmuler5627 5 ай бұрын

You do not want to be pushing to much air so it can blow all the little components as well you want as little air as possible that will do the job.

@jammi__ 11 ай бұрын

The models with piston pumps are very noisy. I actually stumbled upon your video while looking for modding information to replace it with a blower fan. Perhaps the same for my desoldering station and its loud pump.

@firzen0000 Жыл бұрын

Is 24l/min air flow enough in most cases, or should I go for the QUICK 857DW+ with 100l/min?

@ioanonymous1886 10 ай бұрын

I would also be interested in this question. Can anyone answer it?

@K2teknik. 7 ай бұрын

I never use my hot air station on full blast, air flow or temperature, but it all comes down to what is your usage case scenario. The air volume per time unit do not tell that much on its own, it has a lot to do with what nozzle you use too, and the pump/ventilator/fan parameters regarding pressure handling, here the piston pump shine, if you just go for high air flow then the ventilator/fans is your drug, but the two things, air speed and pressure goes together, and it all depend on a lot of variables that will differ from use case to use case.

@firasbajjar 7 ай бұрын

The funny thing is, in my country the piston pump models are actually CHEAPER (and in some cases much cheaper) than the fan based ones. It actually made me doubt my reasoning and logic as to why they selling the much better version for lesser cash.

@AVEN853 7 ай бұрын

sa7a bajra

@katlegomogwera6834 3 ай бұрын

What camera are you using for the microscope?

@alvee2387 Жыл бұрын

What temp should I use to remove analog sticks from Xbox circuit board?

@milanfixer Жыл бұрын

About 450 degrees. Heat up the board from the pin side and when solder melts, gently pull it from the board. Use kapton tape to secure SMD components on the board and prevent them from flying off. Just be patient and don't force it. You'll be able to do it without a problem. If you have low melt solder, use it.

@alvee2387 Жыл бұрын

Appreciate it!

@ReggeditCh04 9 ай бұрын

A single "Nope" Would be enough for this vid.

@milanfixer 9 ай бұрын

True! 😂😂😂

@benjaminlarouche534 9 ай бұрын

what the difference?? the price

@chrisrgutierrez Жыл бұрын

Is there one that you recommend that is available for purchase?

@milanfixer Жыл бұрын

Not the exact same model. But cheap models working on the same principle, yes. Just Google around, you'll find them for sure.

@Roadkill_USA 5 ай бұрын

this true I just replaced my old one and my new one works so much better.

@NoEggs2 Жыл бұрын

Where are you buying these stations at the prices you quoted?

@hairulole Жыл бұрын

May i know which model for the new station ? I also looking for new hot station

@lexluther1323 Жыл бұрын

Quick 957dw

@b5a5m5 16 күн бұрын

Sorry what? Fans are excellent at moving large volumes of air in low resistance applications. Piston pumps are for high pressure. I bet there’s a centrifugal fan in the hosed unit, have you taken it apart to check? 🙂

@milanfixer 15 күн бұрын

@@b5a5m5 I have. I made a mistake in my video. There wasn't a piston pump inside it, but a membrane (diaphragm) pump.

@2010stoof 5 ай бұрын

What is the cost difference for a hobbyist. If the nice one is 4x the price then that's where it matters too

@robertendl9205 9 ай бұрын

Did you calibrate the temperatures?

@calholli 2 ай бұрын

It could also just be that the temperature is out of calibration on the "fan" machine.. The test is pointless without proving the temperatures are the same.

@cipriancimpan5538 Жыл бұрын

great explanation for a newbie like me, thanks!

@garethsmith7628 4 ай бұрын

so turn the first one up to 9 then

@boharsidhu3096 Жыл бұрын

Liked and subscribed to your channel keep it up bro great work. What's that model bro?

@milanfixer Жыл бұрын

Thank you very much mate! It's a Baku 852 (but I recommend getting a Baku 702, if you're looking for cheap and decent 👍).

@agentmike2222 Жыл бұрын

Nice video! Question, whats the model for the Baku piston pump version? I might look in to it.

@MysticMagic2000 10 ай бұрын

BAKU Model: ba-942E

@ricardomaldonado8185 Жыл бұрын

Hey Buddy wich model is the best one ? Thanks

@geexskill 11 ай бұрын

This comparaison is not revelant. You start with the RSpro and for the second the ground plane is still hot.

@jeffdewe 7 ай бұрын

I paid around $50 for my fan based hot air station about 1yr ago and you know what? For the little bit of soldering I do, its all I need, Its not really about the air, its more about the heat than anything, and it works fine, sure at that time the piston type was like 400% more to buy, I didn't see the need. If I was a pro or semi pro, I could see the need for it. But I'm not. :)