Not Helping - Nvidia RTX 3080 12GB Review

[@optimumtech]

Speedrun review for those who might need it and are confused. The upcoming RTX 3050 should be a bit more interesting so stay tuned for that!

[@uknowwhoiam1389]

really hoping the rtx 3050 is in stock and around msrp, unlike the other cards

[@CESAR_H_ARIAS]

@@uknowwhoiam1389 it won't. It would be at least double the price.

[@SchwertKruemel]

@@uknowwhoiam1389 it won't, with 8gb its attractive for gamers. And as it was originally planned as a low tdp mobile card it will probably be quiet efficient if you reduce the clock speeds a bit. I would set more hope on AMDs 6500xt, as it only has 4gb and is therefore useless for most of the profitable coins

[@kev1310]

Will you do a review of 12400f or other 12th gen non k cpu?

[@yourhandlehere1]

Looks like it's running hotter, slower and sucking way more power to do it than my PNY Revel 3080. ($750) No boost on my part...1995MHz sometimes 2010...up to 335w....66C. I don't have all these games. I just play War Thunder when I want to blow stuff up. 4K maxed. 200+fps.

[@SealDoggo]

premium 12gb variant is only up to 5% faster than 10gb FE, meaning actual difference is roughly 2-3% between the 2. Shout out to Nvidia for this historical launch.

[@oldmanian]

You misspelled “hysterical”….

[@Grimmwoldds]

It's a 980 TI/Titan X, except they actually added a few lanes on the memory bus(Titan X added 9% more TMUs, and populated the twelve memory locations on the back of the 980 TI's 12 memory locations so same memory bus width)

[@johnle3819]

Well the point of this 12GB variant is to lock in new MSRP pricing and discontinue the 10GB model. Now people cannot complain that a 3080 12GB was once $700 starting out. It’s like house builders who now tack on a bunch of upgrades so they can justify increasing the overall build by $80k-$100k to reflect market pricing.

[@beanos2287]

@Bry Zeer who would want to pay $300 more for a 5% increase in performance.

[@xouthpaw]

@Bry Zeer Real chads buy the 6800XT with 16GB of VRAM. Even the 6700XT has 12GB.

[@Bandoughha]

More than likely, the 10GB model is being discontinued to reset the "MSRP" of the 3080

[@disobey81]

Bang on.

[@lupintheiii3055]

It's not likely, it's sure.

[@jordanranstead3016]

It has been rumored by a couple discord leakers

[@wiryantirta]

@@jordanranstead3016 rumored? why else other than a price reset? if you're "price" and spec is fine then why would you ever release this in the first place

[@roxy_xcxc6869]

Yeah that how they can eat your money up as much as the can.

[@therick8417]

If the OG 3080 would have been "priced" at $1,000 at launch, this card wouldn't exist. Just a market correction for Nvidia

[@TheBlackIdentety]

It would but it would be 1200 or more while the 3080 ti would be 1500.

[@ianjohnson1249]

There is an element of being able to get rid of binned 3080 Ti parts by selling them as 3080 12gb. Those bad cards would not be suitable for Ti.

[@ultraL2]

@@TheBlackIdentety exactly lol

[@ArchusKanzaki]

@@ianjohnson1249 or just sell them as normal 3080 lol.

[@ArchusKanzaki]

@@TheBlackIdentety that’s the point of 3090 Ti lol. Make a bigger more expensive halo, then maybe release a 3090 Super or something, and silently discontinue older 3090, then move the 3080Ti to have 16GB or something.

[@Jabid21]

This wasn’t made to give more performance, this was made to increase prices of the 3080 chip for Nvidia.

[@NoSenseNeo]

They're probably just binned 3080ti chips that couldn't reach the necessary performance

[@Enclosure_2k]

same chip from 3050 3080 and 3080ti.... so yeah

[@xlinnaeus]

@@Enclosure_2k You meant 3090 right?

[@gambiting]

@@NoSenseNeo 3090Ti, 3090, 3080Ti and 3080 all use the same chip.

[@Enclosure_2k]

@@xlinnaeus all use the same chip.

[@euphoria842]

Nvidia are kicking themselves that they decided to launch such an affordable generation of GPUs and this is them trying to retcon that.

[@robertstan298]

Affordable in MSRP only... and only for the 3080, maybe 3070. Everything after was just a straight up worse and worse, even at just MSRP. As you've said, this launch is basically them retcon-ing even the "generous" (again, in MSRP only) 3080...

[@fippo717]

@@robertstan298 3060ti at 419$ is a steal, 2080super permformance in a sub 500 dollar crazy

[@hairychesticles1]

believe it or not its not nearly as affordable as the 10 series cards. they bumped the price up across all cards by a few hundred during the 20 series compared to the 10 series. 80 TI class cards used to be sub 1000. i consider the 3090 to be what the 3080 ti should have been. ti cards used to be 20% - 30% better than non ti cards but now you are lucky if they are even close to 10% better at hundreds more. 1080 ti was 700 msrp at 30% more performance over the 1080 compared to the 3090 that is $1500 usd and just a wimpy 8% - 14% better then the 3080. the price to performance seems to be getting less and less as you go up with every generation. soon you will see NVidia marketing the 4080 as being more powerful than the 3090 witch is hardly an achievement given how little the 3090 performed over the 3080 and they will probably ask $900 to $1000 msrp for the 4080 and give the excuse that it beats the more expensive 3090 for less

[@seamon9732]

@@hairychesticles1 So much this. People are quick to forget that Ampere's MSRPs were considered a massive price hike on release.

[@Cazanu417]

they basically let the whole profit to the scalpers and retailers so they rectify that lol they saw how much people are willing to pay if they aint raising the price the retailers do and if those dont the scalpers with bots will do.

[@Chuby123]

Why did they re-release the 3080? Simple. Release a refresh with slightly better performance. Don’t make an MSRP founders edition card. Quietly reduce stock of the 10gb version. Up charge the AIB lots for chips. Make tons more money

[@ArchusKanzaki]

Basically, everyone got screwed by Nvidia, both us and Partners. The fact that they even launch it quietly is because they knew they don’t even have any good optics for this.

[@ClannerJake]

I could use 12 instead of 8gb, and I'd solder the chips on if I was sure it would run stable.

[@JacobRosenegger]

Can't wait for the RTX 3080 Super 11GB . Need another card to sit between that 5% difference. GG Nvidia.

[@innocentiuslacrim2290]

3090 Super is needed also. Then we can have all these cards within 15% of each other (for perfect price gouging): 3080, 3080 Super, 3080 12GB, 3080 Ti, 3090 3090 Super, 3090 Ti. That is 7 cards so one card every 2%. Next gen Nvidia will launch 200 cards.

[@fatman2876]

Wait for the RTX 3080 Super Bow Tie 12.5gb edition

[@BBWahoo]

3090 lite, with 15gb of vram

[@V1CT1MIZED]

The 3080 12gb should've been called the 3080 super lol

[@arianna4442]

I LOVE MY 3080 12gb rog strix oc. It s a 3080 TI for less money.............................💚🥇💎-💵 i pay it 1000$

[@ArchusKanzaki]

Man this guy is too kind, calling Nvidia "being weird". I expect GN to tear into Nvidia soon.

[@clansome]

It's using up slightly nerfed GPU dies, or dies that didn't make the grade for a 3080Ti. If it gets more cards into the market well then I am all for it. Neither of the GPU makers have covered themselves in glory over the last 18 months tbh. If you don't want it, simple don't buy it, there'll be 100 other folk queuing up behind you.

[@ArchusKanzaki]

@@clansome no, it won’t give you more cards on the market. At least not better than current situation. Why? It is because any die that do not make it into 3080 Ti can be made into 3080 instead. And do you see more original 3080 10GB right now? The entire reason why Nvidia made this card, is because they put the MSRP of the original 10GB card way too low so this is basically price reset for them. Mark my word that you will see way less of 3080 10GB and more of 3080 12GB even if it exist. You do not need to say the last line. Of course it will sell, and Nvidia knows it. That’s why they make sure to tack-in extra 200$-300$ for them in MSRP so even if the market goes to “normal” it will never be back when the original 30-series launch. And since they do not have “Founder’s Edition”, Nvidia make sure to screw its partner too so they can deflect blame to partners if price is too high. You can argue that corporation need to maximize profit, and even if its true, there are good ways, and scummy ways to do it. This one is arguably very scummy

[@ponch3lo]

Steve is gonna rippem a new bonghole.

[@CabatoCK]

OT kind of a shill these days.

[@ArchusKanzaki]

@@CabatoCK the general message is still the same “its not worth it for the extra dollars you need to spend over original 3080…. But the reality is that GPU is just way too expensive nowadays” The guys is just being too kind and being roundabout the point. I expect GN’s actual recommendation for the consumers to be the same, but with extra of ripping apart Nvidia too.

[@wasdc]

I never thought I'd see the day where I'm paying nearly $100 for every GB of video memory, with a unnoticeable hardware and performance boost.

[@FabricateFrog]

$100 for every GB at this point thats a deal. Its more like 150$ 😂

[@youtubevanced4900]

$220 per Gb in Australia

[@Michael-xj8ju]

It's our fault, we're falling victim to dread based marketing, and voting with our wallets. Also the miners.

[@vashstampede8523]

So dont buy it. They can release whatever they want but unless we buy it its for nothing. Just wait for the price drop once the miners dry out. Shit will hit the fan at the end of 2022 with Etherium Merge.

[@Michael-xj8ju]

I simply stopped caring about GPUs and gaming altogether. Good luck, everyone lol

[@DrearierSpider1]

There are a lucky few who were able to buy an RTX 3080 at or near the $700 MSRP. Nvidia considers that a mistake, and this new 12GB model is a way to further segment GA102 dies, despite there STILL being folks who preordered or day 1 ordered a 3080 10GB and have not received it yet.

[@samuelkdu]

lol is that real day 1 pre order still hasnt arrived thats more than a year hahahahaha

[@theFakeSilas]

Yep, sitting in the evga queue since early December - 2020

[@ajrsabbagh]

I feel so lucky I got a 3080 for 999 CAD (about 800 USD at the time of writing this). That was back in Dec 2020 so it also wasn't LHR which is nice. At the time it felt like I was paying a lot since it was over "MSRP", but wow things have only gone down hill since then.

[@SchwertKruemel]

Nvidia is still pushing a few founders editions of the original card into the market. My friend just got a 3080 FE for 719€ today. However those only ship in tiny numbers

[@Gizrah]

I’m so happy I got my 3080 at MSRP at launch. Well, paid for it at launch, got it 3 months later of course.

[@afcaton1]

Short and to the point. Thank you. The greed from these companies is real.

[@Wylie288]

Its greedy to get full value from their product. They have EVERY moral obligation to do so. This card is worth $1000. Look at ebay. What are 3080s selling for? $1000. Nvidia deserve every penny their product is worth. Wanting them to price their product lower than its worth makes YOU greedy. Not them. They are doing what they have a moral right to do.

[@CannedMarmalade]

Interviewer: What inspired you to move dies from the 3080 10GB to the 12GB? Nvidia: Money!

[@MuhammadIlhamuodd254512]

Ugh Nvidia not helping at all

[@0to600]

Loving my RX 6900 XT. 55 FPS average on MFS 2020 ultra settings. WOOHOO. Resolution 3840 X 1600

[@SiLva_SuRfa]

Funny how underwhelming that sounds… but it’s microsoft flight sim afterall.

[@lordwhitesk1n996]

@@SiLva_SuRfa Nah he’s probably playing at 720p

[@tejasswatrajindu6154]

Me who plays with my 1050ti at 1080p with high and still gets 40 fps...

[@OnlyCitrus]

@@tejasswatrajindu6154 he is probably at 4K

[@johnnyboogalo4897]

@@tejasswatrajindu6154 He probably playing at 4k maxed out everything try that 1050ti at higher res and watch it get wrecked to hell

[@BrownieNB]

I know you adressed it in your video, but the fact that the 10GB and 12GB don't have the same cooler and the 12GB running well over the base power limit make this even worse. I suspect the difference between both 3080 is closer to 2-3% rather than 5%. Even the memory uplift isn't that significant.

[@xXRealXx]

Yeah. Going from 10 GB of VRAM to 12 isn't going to do much. 10 is already a lot and 2 is not that much

[@lupintheiii3055]

@@xXRealXx 10GB is not a lot in 2022 and wasn't a lot even in 2020 when it came out.

[@maestrojedi6220]

This card is shit

[@anlumo1]

It's pretty crazy that the price I see the 3080Ti going for happens to be about the MSRP of the 3090Ti ($1800)… Usually it's even higher than that.

[@Thrashman138]

I was lucky enough to get a 3080 ti at launch at MSRP. I'm very happy with it.

[@Atheismo9760]

Yeah, shortages work that way.

[@migsmigs87]

I got a 3080ti at MSRP. I saw 6 in stock at a local store and rushed to get it. By the time I arrived it was the last one. I'm happy with it but would never pay the inflated/scalper prices. I only got it because it was MSRP and I took advantage of the shortage and sold my 2080 for MSRP.

[@MrKozlosPL]

2000eur +

[@Thrashman138]

@Glowing in the Dark Do you make your own tinfoil hats?

[@hazmifly]

Nvidia: Look like we still have 5% gap for new gpu.. RTX3080 super next in line.

[@MuhammadIlhamuodd254512]

Ugh

[@omfg_its_dave]

Yep, pretty soon you'll be able to choose your performance in 1% increments.

[@EvernooBE]

If anything they should just have called this one the SUPER

[@innocentiuslacrim2290]

@@EvernooBE Then they could not launch 4080 12GB at next gen at 1200 USD and say that "price stayed the same compared to 3080 12GB".

[@alexl7219]

I am a light gamer and I got this card from Microcenter two weeks ago (it was the last one on the shelve when I got there -- really happy). I am going to be using this card for Deep Learning mostly, that extra 2GB will make some differences in speed during training. We can training at higher number "batch size" which makes requires little less iteration per EPOCH. Sorry if you're not similar with those terms, but basically it would make the training time a little faster. However I would much prefer the 3090 with that 24 GB :D. Have a good one.

[@kenneth6102]

Not going to build a gaming rig until prices are back to normal. There is no point getting scammed on. With lockdowns going on, walking on the streets already feels like an VR FPS single player campaign mode.

[@Robert-tj3jq]

I picked up my RTX 3060 Ti last week that I bought at MSRP. You just have to be persistent. There might be a drop at Best Buy today. They usually do drops Thursday or Friday between 10-12 EST. I originally wanted a 3080 so I'm sitting here refreshing BB hoping they do a drop today. Until then I'm going to enjoy my 3060 Ti. Good luck.

[@innocentiuslacrim2290]

@@Robert-tj3jq I was thinking that might be the case, but then I decided that if I give ANY value to my most valuable possession, "time", then I skip the endless GPU-hunting-at-a-reasonable-price and skip this gen totally.

[@kenneth6102]

@@Robert-tj3jq I'm sort of aiming for an RTX 3080 too. I am not entirely sure that I'll able to grab that at MSRP.

[@albertsun3393]

I had an EVGA notify pop yesterday - The EVGA 3080 12GB FTW3 is $1299.99... in comparison, the EVGA 3080Ti XC3 is $1209 (the FTW3 is $1429.99)

[@adriansolis5362]

I really appreciate this concise review. You laid it out perfectly. It's just unfortunate that we're dealing with this market right now.

[@migsmigs87]

Great short review. You should include Octane and Vray Benchmarks to compare production workloads, you might see more of a difference in those. As for the 3080 12 gb; I think we should all consider the 3080 10gb and 3090 discontinued. Why would Nvidia sell GA102 chips for cheaper in this (horrible) market?

[@wiseguysez]

Personally i think its obvious to start releasing GPUs with higher than 8gb vram. We've been at 8gb for too long and many games already hit that limit

[@ddsdsfsfasblbllblbl839]

🤡

[@pasamnagalaxmi9299]

🤡

[@johnm91326]

Very refreshing to watch a tech video that isn’t just ranting.

[@realbadtech9318]

the market is so stupid that I traded my 3080 non-LHR that I waited outside Microcenter for 8 hours for to a miner for his 3080ti LHR, AND the dude gave me $100 cash on top the deal.

[@Paulie8K]

I got my OG 3080 for $699 aka retail price and I'm happy with it. No MSRP for the 12GB means it'll be at least $1K non-scalped and $2K on Scalpernet.

[@RCmies]

Congrats. I ordered a 3080 a year ago for $850, I'm still waiting, and it looks like they will come up with a reason to never deliver it to me. Not sure how it's even legal they're rebranding the same product (same chip) multiple times and selling those new models to new people before delivering to people who have ordered a year ago. I know for a fact that even right now, someone who is paying 1800€ for a new RTX 3080 is getting that RTX 3080 shipped to him within days, while I'm here still waiting for mine.

[@Paulie8K]

@@RCmies thanks and sorry to hear that. I only got mine at the end of December. After a year of stalking Best Buy drops, I finally got lucky in a drop before Xmas. What kind of sucks is i gave up on getting one back in June and decided to update my old laptop to a 3080 laptop. I love the laptop but now I have a 3080 desktop and laptop in one apartment which is complete overkill lol The only good part is I had a 5700XT previously in my rig and was able to get $1K on eBay for it after scoring the 3080 so that kind of covered my cost.

[@funtourhawk]

Literally just got a 3080 12gb for $900 on newegg, all the regular 3080s were same price or $50 lower max

[@Paulie8K]

@@funtourhawk nice! When I made this comment things were a lot different price wise. Enjoy!

[@karlifetz]

I am actually kind of mad that the 3080 didn't ship with 12GB to begin with. I am a full type freelance 3D artist and had the luck + privilege to snag two 3080s at launch for MSRP. Super happy because in 3D, they really are knocking it out of the park but.. then we suddenly had cards like the 3060 shipping with 2GB more VRAM than the flagship card of the current generation. In terms of a working standpoint, those 2GB really help you to sometimes step up your calculation power quite a bit in some cases especially for texture caching and very dense scenes. What is currently going on in both camps, whether it's nvidia or AMD, really boggles my mind.

[@godofdeath8785]

Yeah Nvidia sucks

[@LinzJc]

Have people seen the prices of these 12gb models in the newegg shuffle etc? they are $1200+ for the card alone, ASUS Strix/TUF is like $1500. I am pretty sure the board partners are just setting up the prices and is the reason Nvidia is not even mentioning an MSRP.

[@drumhopttv]

The only 3080 12gb I've seen for sale so far was $1500...and that's only if you win a newegg shuffle lol.

[@MrSolvalou]

Five desktop Geforce cards all based on the same die, all on sale at the same time, this must be some kind of a record

[@justmakemeaname]

2 optimum tech videos in 2 DAYS?? it must be my birthday

[@sawomirbartosiak2487]

It is not fair to compare the non-reference RTX 3080 12GB to the RTX3080 10GB FE. Yes, the differences are small, but the Suprim X model has a much higher boost clock, so you should test two of the same models

[@gbm4169]

Looking at Nvidia’s gpu line up, they might release a gtx 980 with 10gb vram

[@conyo985]

That's a humongous card! You're already jacked but somehow that card is dominating the screen. 1:00

[@panczenPL]

Suprim X versions are chunky boys. Use 3 PCI slots but do a good job at cooling

[@aditya3984]

Have following your channel for few months.Your videos are always top-notch,planned and informative.

[@jenesuispasbavard]

In a "normal" cycle, this would probably launch at the 3080's launch price of $700 - like the 2070 and 2080 Supers came with the base models' MSRPs. Shame that this isn't a "normal" cycle.

[@CMWinter]

Seeing that 3080 running at 1950MHz at 78c, makes me pretty happy to have taken your advice; undervolting my 3080TI to 1890MHz @ 875V, as the temps don't go above 68c.

[@dan8t669]

isn't that a 100mV undervolt? hard to believe

[@Unamatrix01]

Quite an informative vide, the GPU price inflation is absurd.

[@SISSYPUSS]

Absolutely crazy product line, EVGA's FTW 3080 is $1,749.97

[@MrM4xwell]

So glad I was able to get my 3080 fe day one... I feel that this kind of performance for the price I paid won't be something we'll see anytime soon.

[@michaelthompson9798]

I guess with many regions unable to get RTX3080 (10GB) and the Nvidia stack dilution continuing, this is the new price reset GPU is to tackle those who can’t get the OG 3080 or Ti variants but want one ….albeit much more expensive. I’m glad I got my RTX3080 TUF OG version at MSRP/RRP at launch 🥰🥰🥰🥳

[@SuatBarlak]

"...and the formation of the stars" - lol.. you Sir earned yourself a like!

[@xlinnaeus]

Optimem Tech is QUICKLY becoming one of my favourite tech channels! Really appreciate you using fast RAM for your benchmarks instead of 3200Mhz C14....!

[@MSJChem]

Well, the 3080 12GB is on sale here in Japan for 800 USD more than the 3080 10GB (more expensive than the 3080Ti). That makes perfect sense.

[@MixieMew]

I'd skip this generation or just buy a 6800XT, I was fortunate enough to get a 3080 10GB but having played with a 6800 & 6900 Amd really pulled this generation. I really hope 7000 & intel really shack Nvidias boots.

[@En_Joshi-Godrez]

Why do you have so many cards? If you dont mind me asking.

[@MixieMew]

@@En_Joshi-Godrez indie dev studio, we’ve got quite a collection of cards to mess with.

[@lupintheiii3055]

At 1440p an RX 6800 (non-XT) is actually as fast or faster than a 3080... with 16GB of Vram... while consuming 100W less...

[@cheesecurdinator4010]

I love the 6800xt. I have a 3080 10gb as a backup card thats unopened and I have never used it. Might never use it ever if my 6800xt lasts the next 5 years

[@MixieMew]

@@lupintheiii3055 and the RX cards have better Rasterization, They just need to improve on Raytracing. The consoles do quite well.

[@M4rio21]

I'll probably wait until I can get buy the 3080 11GB. The 3080 13GB model will probably be too expensive.

[@inthelight4671]

The problem is that there is simply not enough chips for the supply of graphics cards to increase in any significant manner. A new factory takes years to build and most of them are like half way built. Before then, if demand remains the same, THE PRICES WILL REMAIN 2X+ MRSP for 30's cards regardless of what anyone tries to do. This is a simple economic problem, the demand greatly exceeds the supply which is very slow to respond. Therefore prices must increase for maximum economic efficiency. This issue would probably end by early 2024, since new factories for chips would have been built by then and supply would drastically increase.

[@nick-reynolds]

US stock update as of April 2022: you can find both 3080 10 GB and 3080 12 GB cards available in stock through Amazon for 1000 USD (Asus Strix OC 10 GB vs EVGA FTW3 12 GB). At the exact same price, sure-I'll take the free VRAM.

[@Thrashman138]

So glad I was able to get my 3080ti at MSRP.

[@Julienbauzin]

thanks for the review, would be cool if possible to see some Redshift or Octane render benchmarks in the future ✌ cheers

[@sevegarza]

Picked up a 12GB 3080 for $799 today. Specifically the "MSI Ventus GeForce RTX 3080 3X Plus 12GB OC"

[@UnknownUser-fg3fs]

NVIDIA realized they priced the 3080 too well so this is their way by killing off the 10gb for the 12GB and making that sweet sweet profit. Glad I went with a 6800XT!

[@lupintheiii3055]

Wich is faster, consume 100W less and has more Vram anyway :-)

[@michaelcarson8375]

You actually got one! I'm impressed, You managed to beat out many other reviewers!!

[@unitybeing777]

Honesty is priceless, much appreciated for your review. I'm happy with my 2080ti xtrio.

[@blueferrari397]

I just upgraded to an MSI Suprim X 3080 12GB after my Gigabyte AORUS 3080 Master packed it in only one month in. I must say the 12gb really is worth it if you can fork out the extra few hundred. The 12GB is even out performing the 3080ti in some games by a few FPS, according to 3D Guru benchmarks. More importantly, I've had 4 Gigabyte cards over the last 7 years and 3 of the 4 have been replaced under warranty, so I'll never buy Gigabyte cards again.

[@nagzz06]

Wondering if this 3080 12gb is THE 3080 Super? Or they will still release a SUPER variants?

[@Martial-Mat]

I hope that you were sarcastically impressed at nVidia's ability to fit new cards between their existing line up given that they can't remotely meet demand with what they already have. They need to stop f**king around, REDUCE the line up, and start getting products in gamers hands. Their greed-fuelled market is about to collapse and I hope that the harm done to their reputation is irreperable. Sad, I NEED nvidia for my work, but the second viable alternatives arise, I'll be off. They've destroyed any brand loyalty I had.

[@sloppyprogrammer4373]

If they would cut out the middleman, IE retailers and other manufacturers. I'd pay gladly €100/200 more to them directly, but not fucking 150-300% more.

[@mykelneid6152]

Was Lucky to pick up a 3080 gaming x trio 10g on release for 825€. Tho I am curious what the performance difference would be compared to the surpim x 12g

[@GamingRobioto]

1-3%

[@Dionyzos]

I gotta be honest, I've kinda lost interest in PC hardware for the time being. Prices are staying high and I don't see that changing anytime soon. I still watch these videos sometimes though to stay up to date.

[@fromthesidelines1453]

i second ur motion. am still rocking a gtx 1070 oc! may jump on the 4000 series cards pending availability! now only gonna buy cards if it gives me a 200% bump in games or can it run msfs 2020 at 4k maxed settings!

[@Dionyzos]

@@fromthesidelines1453 I'm honestly skeptical about the 4000 series having better availability. Why should Nvidia ramp up production when the mining hype can suddenly die? It seems too risky and they're already making more money than ever before. The most interesting theory is that the used market will be flooded with 3000 series mining cards when it's no longer profitable. That's what happened after China banned mining. If you're smart and careful about it you might get a spectacular deal on a 3080. That's another reason why Nvidia should be careful. People might not buy 4000 series cards when older models are way cheaper.

[@fromthesidelines1453]

@@Dionyzos yea thats very much so! and i agree with u! Nvidia is in the cash grab market now, to hell with gamers! am currently running a gtx 1070 an it plays the games i like just fine! my only reason i wud get a 4000 series card if it can max out Microsoft flight sim 2020 max settings at 4k, which am thinking its not even gonna be a big gain even over the 3000 series as rumors spec it out to be!! and if it really does, pending reviews, that wud be then the only reason i would buy a mid or high end gpu! Pc gaming i feel is losing its hype due to over priced gpus! but again ppl will vote with there wallets! an who is to say the trend wont start again for the 4000 series with miners now swapping out there 3000s for 4000 series like u mentioned!

[@Mr.Reality]

@@Dionyzos Yea a worn down 3080 that's been sucked out of it's juice by mining 24/7.

[@Genjokoan]

I have not noticed anyone point out that in the machine learning world an extra 2GB of RAM can be a very big deal if you data set does not fit neatly under 10GB. If your data fits on the 12GB version but not the 10GB, running the 10GB can cost you a LOT of time.

[@Psyopcyclops]

I just bought a 12gb 3080. It was only $80 more than the 10gb, so why not?

[@Walhor]

I wonder if they introduce super versions aswell to make these cards hair thin in comparsion

[@santeenl]

This should have been the 3080 from the start lmao, Nvidia milking consumers like cows, nothing new. This is why I went full AMD.

[@multimanfail]

Imagine releasing a gpu so pointless that you would have to rely on the formation of the stars to notice the perfomance increase

[@jdogdarkness]

Basically if the 12gb model wasn't a board partner model, which usually means it's binned and the extra power. They would be about the same in speed.

[@GoetheNorris]

He's been lifting weights more than scalpers have prices.

[@Dragon211]

can't wait for the RTX 3080 TI Super duper 13GB

[@nostalgiaholic4874]

To all you people saying you don’t need 12gb of vram , I have 3080ti ftw3 ultra and I can tell you at 4K with setting cranked I’m seeing a lot of games at the 90% and up vram mark so yea you do need at least 12gb would be nice if it had 16

[@henriquefmq]

You know they fucked up when this zen monk is salty. 10/10 content as per usual.

[@neurokinetik64ES]

Compact and dense... like the builds on this channel. 😄

[@Nateabolic]

3080 12GB was $40 more than the 10GB version for me at current time. Ended up buying a 12GB just because

[@matt1285]

Any plans to do another ITX case roundup this year?

[@chobotong]

I see mr optimum tech is in open rebellion against the retcon of Ti being pronounced "tie".

[@XMG3]

0:45 - a bit more expensive ? its more like a lot more expensive lol, EVGA prices for these are nearly on par with the 3080 ti instead of the regular 3080

[@cheesecurdinator4010]

Exactly. If I was in the market for a 3080 12 gb I'd just buy a 3080ti cuz the price is like 100 dollars more where as the 12 gb 3080 is almost 400 more than the 10gb 3080

[@XMG3]

@@cheesecurdinator4010 right now it's truly time to wait for etherium bomb, then nvidia will go back to normal pricing for rtx 4000... that is before the next big coin comes again

[@jpleveille]

3:12 those NPC legs on the 3080Ti... huh?!

[@y_zass]

I think the 3080 was meant to be 12gb from the beginning, which is why all the 10gb models have 2 empty Vram pads. They decided to cut it down for some reason. Maybe to hit that $700 price tag, maybe to milk the demand to make 2 card skus out of 1. I'm leaning more towards that last one there lol

[@TheEPICskwock]

The pricing has come down nearly $200 in the last couple months. This is very good, it might drop to MSRP this year.

[@YAAMW]

I think it's an issue of yields. Nvidia must've had many cards that didn't make the cut for a 3090 or a 3080 Ti and yet had more good cores than a 3080. They're just riding this wave for all its worth

[@needsomewater]

Nvidia just slapped everyone on the face with this one.

[@terrasai2857]

Meanwhile, AMD still sells their GPUs at real MSRP on their website every week.

[@innocentiuslacrim2290]

Yeah, 50 gpus almost every other week for the whole of Europe.

[@terrasai2857]

@@innocentiuslacrim2290 it feels like that but they just sell out quick due to the sheer number of people trying

[@laujack24]

AMD fan boi spotted

[@OnlyCitrus]

I enquired about the RTX 3060 from a local retailer. Its prices at $1000. Its supposed to be $500 with taxes....

[@RebornzHItman]

Honestly this is ridiculous pricing. I'm so tired not being able to own a 3000 series, and having all of them to be scalped so fast. Gotta love them taking advantage of the GPU market /s

[@Wylie288]

Why shouldn't they though? They have every moral right to gain full value from their product. This card is simply worth what they are selling it for. There isn't a good reason for them to sell if for less.

[@michaelw2263]

At this point, I'm just done trying to find anything better. I should be content with my 3070, but I lust for a 3080 or 3080 ti. But considering, imo, the market and availability for graphics cards hasn't changed, I'm more annoyed my Nvidia than anything. It's like saying, "sorry you can't get another card, but guess what, here's another one you can't have either!" And saying that over and over.

[@Jack-yz5ws]

The only reason this card exists is because Nvidia fucked up their MSRP, they didn't even make 3080s

[@StgVirus1]

The 3000 series is going to be the most confusing release of GPUs ever 😐

[@manhealme]

I mean it already has since they introduced the 3060...

[@terrasai2857]

You hit the jackpot if you were able to get a non-LHR 3080 FE for $700 USD.

[@alpenfoxvideo7255]

hei man, I wanted to say thank you for the effort you put to the quality of your voice in the video. The Boomy voice in some other's videos gives me a headache in less than 10 minutes.

[@TuxedoPanther]

Nice informative review, many thanks 😀👍

[@forog1]

About the same deferens here like the 3070 to 3070ti. 256 CUDA core pump as well as power increase from 250? To 290w as well as 19gbs GDDR6X memory all for a high high pump in performance of 5% !!!!

[@OW3N_HE]

Please test the 3080 FE/3080 Ti FE/3090 FE in the Phanteks New Evolv Shift XT with two T30 fans at top exhaust, hope this can work, just don't like to flip the FormD T1 upside and down....

[@p3u3g3poultree7]

What is the point of this release? Customers who have already paid in queue are still waiting. The new series is a few months away from release. Even miners will wait for the 4000 series as crypto currency is crashing. Why not compare new and old MSI suprimx?

[@mattiasbystedt1332]

For two hourd time after summer a store sold all cards at MSRP to those who cared to be there. Me and two guys stood first in line. I remember telling them not to buy the 3080 ti at MSRP and go for the 3090 instead because the ti was just an overpriced 3080. We got the only 3090s in the store at MSRP. Probably the correct choice looking back.

[@AcuraAddicted]

About what I expected. Totally not worth the huge MSRP difference from the 3080.

[@kravenfoxbodies2479]

The reason LHR had no effect was because they enforced the street level GTA V pricing at the Zotac Store which is saying Nvidia themself .

[@cppctek]

Do you think The only reason this card exist is they prob just had to change the memory supplier/part # for the chips and they didn’t feel they could not make a 10gb anymore since they use 4gb modules?

[@innocentiuslacrim2290]

It exist to reset the price for 3080 when next gen is lauched. When RTX 4080 12GB will be 1200 usd at lauch, they will just say that it is close to what 3080 12GB launched at.

[@lupintheiii3055]

It uses the exact same Micron GDDR6X memory modules... also there are no 4GB GDDR6X memory modules, there aren't even 2GB modules as of now, only 1GB. Infact that is the reason of the increadibly stupid Vram segmentation on 3080/3080Ti/3090. Every chip has a 32bit-bus, so for the 3080 you have 10X1GB chips=320bit-bus, for the 3080Ti/3090 12GB 12X1GB=384bit-bus, for the 3090 they used a clamshell design with one 1GB chip on each side while using the same 384bit-bus (wich is also the reason of the 110°C glowing hot memory on the 3090). That's because memory-bus has a bigger impact on performance than core-count, so it was the only way to make the 3090 5-10% faster... while consuming 500W... The only reason for the 3080 12GB to exist is to reset MSRP to 1600$ (or even higer since it has no MSRP to begin with), so Nvidia can scalp the cards itself.

[@cppctek]

@@lupintheiii3055 well if they ditched the 1gb modules then of course they’d have to do a 3080 refresh then like they did. I have a feeling this was either a cost saving measure to carry less types of vram or a supply issue. But they passed it off as if they gave us a brand new card lol. The FPS diff is like 1 to 4 FPS tops. The cores are probably just slightly tweaked to show more cuda cores and cu but doesn’t seem to make much diff

[@lupintheiii3055]

@@cppctek I will repeat that to you one more time since you don't seams to get it. The only reason this GPU exist is to get rid of MSRP and sell this card at whatever price they want. There is no supply change, no yealding improvement, nothing. Just two more GB of the same memory and no FE models, so they can set the price whatever the f**k they please.

[@cppctek]

@@lupintheiii3055 that’s a conspiracy but I can tell you the aib partners have higher cost for many reasons but nvidia has lower cost to manufacture but they still have crap profit margins lately. Ask a share holder. They make more money on the server side and all the technology in other areas even automotive is picking up. But here’s the thing. If your into cars go look at car prices. They are double what they were for used cars. My car is worth 2x what it was 2 years ago. There’s hundreds of thousands of fords and chevys end teslas over a year old with no miles that can’t be sold or delivered because they are missing components they can’t get. Also the other HUGE factor is look up the average price to ship a container of goods from China to USA. It went from 3k to 25k per container. The chip makers have been hit on all sides. Gpu companies are not exempt from being affected by inflation and shipping cost. Nvidia didn’t start this they just got more affected by it and also nvidia doesn’t sell consumer gpus to miners so you really can’t say the mining affected them that much when they sell a bunch of ch mining only cards that are not made from consumer grade gpu dies. Fake news and rumors would lead the newbie to think they are selling founders cards out the back door lol. Go look at miners who have mining rigs and rooms full and most of them have evga, asus, gigabyte, msi And so on.

[@Magicninja63182]

May I ask what desk you’re using? Thank you!

[@danielgallo299]

So basically this is a 3080 super, but with a 50% price increase. Good job Nvidia

[@bunkymunky]

It's ominous they didn't use the 'super' name for this card, can you imagine them releasing an entire refresh of 3000 series cards with the the super name. I wouldn't be surprised. How many skus do you need?

[@justcanaan]

a super with no real improvement

[@EvL--_--]

Its weird to me that no one talks about hotspot temperatures, for my Aorus Master card on EK waterblock with 2 360 rads and noctua nf12a fans when pushing the card hotspots reach 30+ degreese over the "gpu" temps... I mean, 103-105C can't be good for a GPU long term, can it?

[@zawiszaczarny1749]

Electronics have a certain ''lifespan'' from the manufacturer, so the consumer has to constantly upgrade 🤑

[@Pro4TLZZ]

Check thermal paste and thermal pads

[@lupintheiii3055]

No it is not, just avoid garbage GDDR6X and you are fine.

[@Alby911]

I thank my 2080ti everyday for allowing me to skip this generation of GPU's. The 2080ti still punches above its weight for the games I play.

[@ALucaRD807]

i love the fact that your reviews are unbiased. i think only you and gamers nexus give us statements like "buy whatever GPU you can find and afford, the difference is meaningless"