Not So Pleasant, Yet Enjoyable. (Magia Record)

[@Moxxowo]

Mami is already impulsive in the original series, when she discovered that magical girls turn into witches, she quickly killed kiyoko and tried to kill homura. Magia Record really shows how desperate Mami is by joining magius

[@sweetsilence6277]

I absolutely agree! Since in the main series she was the plot twist to the dark side. She has a strong, "mother-like" persona, but in fact it was a mask under which there was a scared lonely girl. + Good point about her literally shooting her friends after learning the truth...

[@Cropcircledesigner]

Right?! Since her original reaction to the truth was "kill everyone now", her joining magius is completely in character.

[@06j5str2u]

I personally feel like it's a mockery/fanservice like a "oh! haha! remember that thing she did in the original? well, we're gonna be completely unoriginal and do it again, but, worse and plain/generic!!". Her finding out everything and mercy killing kyoko/attempting to mercy kill everyone in the original was a crucial, key, and so heartbreaking moment/scene. She also isn't "already" "impulsive" when it happened, if you pay attention, she kills kyoko first cause she's the 2nd strongest/most experienced and aggressive, then, she traps homura with her ribbons; homura's bound and trapped, so, she can't use her time stop or other mechanics/powers. She leaves madoka cause mami assumed she wouldn't do anything/is the kindest and sweetest. She obviously contemplated everything and planned, although, she messed up with madoka. She wasn't "impulsive", she was thinking, she was much more emotional, heartbroken, and felt guilty for everything.

[@Moxxowo]

@@06j5str2u she acted impulsively by instantly trying to kill them when she found out that magical girls were witches. Read the room.

[@06j5str2u]

@@Moxxowo No. Wrong. Read. Actually read what I said.

[@lindseyd.2707]

Brief list of events skipped over by the anime (and yes it is brief): Doppels going out of control were never a thing in the story. Doppels were just powerful manifestations of the witches confined to one part of their body that they had to use wisely cause it was dangerous to use such power and deplete yourself. After the Chaleton Land incident there is essentially a declaration of war from Magius where the Feathers were turned into mind controlled attack animals against every magical girl in Kamihama. The main crew split up and warn every magical they can find of the Feathers and assist during Feather attacks. Every magical girl in the city is told of what happens when their soul gems get depleted leaving 2/3 of the magical girls battle ready but the other 1/3 a mess. Yachiyo is the one who frees Mami from her Uwasa in a big showdown. Iroha and Sana go to the Eternal Sakura and the Uwasa of that rumor proves that the story of the Eternal Sakura includes Nemu, Touka, and Iroha when the Uwasa defends Iroha from being killed by the other two. After that there is a massive battle in Hotel Feint Hope involving the quintet, main crew, and a few extra while laying seeds for future magical girls who were former Feathers. THIS is when Embryo Eve is discovered, Hotel Feint Hope is destroyed by Mifuyu leaving her soul gem cracked, and the beginning of the final arc. The Eternal Sakura gave Sana one of the Sakura branches which bloomed when it touched Eve proving that Eve was Ui. Eve was never going to fuse with Walpurgishnacht and create a shockwave that killed the city, Eve was going to EAT Walpurgisnacht and gain enough energy to create an automatic doppel system to spread around the globe. Eve is stopped by main gang and half the Feathers when Iroha manages to crack the gem that hold Uis body which is when little kyubey reunites with her and everyones memory is restored. Touka and Nemu immediately ditch the save everyone plan that explained why they wished for what they did and help save Ui. Alina wants more destruction however and fuses with the Uwasa of the Fur God and pushes the Eve corpse to its final stage. Touka half dies and is presumed dead after stopping Holy Alina. Little Kyubey sacrifices itself by fusing with completed Eve and installing the automatic doppel system but only over Kamihama. During this entire final arc meanwhile the 2/3 battle ready magical girls start fighting both Eve and Walpurginacht's familiars, the other 1/3 find a reason to keep going and join the fight, and Mitama helps by giving out grief seeds with the Flute sisters. The main gang join the fight a while after the fight with Walpurgisnacht begins but everyone is exhausted and their combined attacks arent doing enough damage. That is when Godoka herself intervenes by sending down a rain of feathers that restore the health and magical stamina enough to finish the fight. Every girl in the game at that point use the special powers they got from their wish to move, capture, and kill Walpurgisnacht in a beautiful scene. The game ends with everyone recovered, no one dead, and everyone on the same page for the most part.

[@TeaandSweets-hc2jc]

Ah, yes. A complete story with an ending that isn't edgy for no reason.

[@CrescentAnime]

@@lindseyd.2707 I know it's been 2 years but thanks for the huge and substantial additions lol!

[@fitmotheyap]

Ok well that removes all the confusion from the anime, just why did they go through with this if it's such a worse option...

[@mehcro3622]

​@@fitmotheyapits an anime Its hard to translate a game cuz a game usually have a lot more elements that animes have to cut down

[@thetruetri5106]

Did madoka die in this or why would homura rewind time when Walpurgis gets defeated? Generally a little confused what Happens with all this during the main story timeline

[@sg4456]

Okay, game player here. The flaws of the anime pretty much stem from the fact that DoroInu was only allowed to adapt Arc 1, and in just 25 episodes to boot. So not only was he forced to cut down on all the character building, but also subplots that were important to fleshing out Kamihama as a setting and the Magius as an organization of troubled Magical Girls. And then he crammed an entirely new plot together for Season 2 + Final Season with an ending that was completely opposite to the game's. Because without an Arc 2 adaption, there would be a whole bunch of questions that wouldn't be answered, so DoroInu felt like he had to go with the failed timeline route in order to at least try to make those answers. The game's Chapters 8 and 10 introduced the wider Magical Girl community to the main story, after having built them up through their personal stories and events. It was very much the Infinity War of Magia Record, and it was pretty hype. However, with the anime it's very lacking as it's all just a very rushed boss battle in the end. And for an anime-only, it's likely confusing af because you're wondering who tf are these girls? The game just finished Arc 2 and is doing aftermath stories, and it's been such a trip. And I'm rather disappointed that the anime ended up like it did, because it could have been a successful branch off from the main series if SHAFT/Aniplex had given it more of a chance.

[@saruwatarisa]

I really do hope this gets "fixed" I've only seen the playthrough of the last battle with Eve and Walpurgisnacht and it was awesome... very sad that the anime ended up the way it did as I had no decent phone to play the game.

[@lindseyd.2707]

The reason this anime was so disappointing was because they seem to have missed the point of the original anime and rewrote many of the major events of the anime. Up to Chelaton Land everything is bearable, but after that.. yikes. They removed main character Izumi Kanagi aka the white girl with the soul gem eye, took away a mind control arc that caused the magical girls of Kamihama to be told that they become witches, removed yet another main character in the Eternal Sakura Uwasa, removed how Eve was discovered to be Ui and all the evidence leading up to Iroha's memories being true, made Alina's evil plan straight up dumb, and finally removed the absolute epic battles against Holy Mami, Eve, and Walpurgisnacht while instead killing off a lot of girls when the game ending had no deaths. Also Mami's descent into madness makes sense in the game cause she feels as though she ruined the lives of her friends by convincing them to be magical girls and was willing to try Nemu and Touka's Uwasa experiment in the hope that she can fix what she believed she ruined. Shes's desperate to save them, herself, and from hurting others. She even states that had she not had the option to fuse with the Uwasa that she would not have had enough time to process the truth and become a Witch. She takes full responsibility afterwards and works hard to take down the Magius' witch breeding and negative emotion brewing ways. The final season was actually supposed to be the ending of season 2 but was delayed by production issues that iirc began in season 2 which is why season 2 has noticeable odd shots and off animation at points.

[@CrescentAnime]

Ya I could agree on the last point especially, wondered why they decided to split off the season lol

[@saruwatarisa]

I think to summarize, the anime didn't do go because it was rushed. The story and the characters was already written but the anime didn't have enough time to flesh out the arcs and the characters.

[@CrescentAnime]

Either that or it's a messy writing to begin with too. But there's nowhere stated so I can't really claim anything. But one thing for sure the direction felt worse from season to season and by the end of the last season special it seemed like the scheduling was all over the place. If I had to make a guess, it's because the Madoka movie 4 was already announced so they felt like no reason to put more attention on this when the audience was already well attracted by the news. Also, could've been cuz they were already working on the recently released Monogatari series (considering monetary benefits between these two, it made sense if they preferred giving more resource to the latter).

[@saruwatarisa]

@@CrescentAnime Aweee~ that's sad if it's a priority problem, especially if it's the monogatari since I love that anime as well. The messy writing? not sure. I've seen the final battle in the game (watched a playthrough) with Eve and Walpurgisnacht and it was so epic to me. I was sorta hoping it gets animated, and it did, but instead this was the direction it went. I stilllll hope they remake it and gets the proper episodes to flesh out all the stuff from the game, since like in the end they made it like, 'oh this is just another version, another timeline.' kind of thing.

[@eucalyptus2609]

TL;DR: Magia Record is great, y'all just need to chage your perspective. Magia Record basically exposed Humanistic Psychology: Why do Magical Girl have to keep living if they're going to struggle until the end of their existence? The anime indeed derailed from the game but tbh I liked this way more. Not because of the cliché of "magical girls must suffer", but because it shows a realistic scenario. No battle comes without deaths. Touka and Nemu were right at standing up against the system, and Mifuyu and Momoko to sacrifice themselves.

[@Acron-l5j]

I liked that "even if we gave everything we have, it will not always end with success. We can't always win but it will be our story" idea. But what I hate is the amount of episodes... So sad. And no Alina backstory, no Kanagi, no actual back stories of Felicia and mitama, no tsuruno back story. I liked the changes in anime but it definitely needed more episodes. We needed more time showing their friendship at Mikazuki, we needed Mitama's wild jokes, seeing what wings do more...

[@Lily-fo2xo]

finally, a good take

[@DrBXXI]

Alina Gray is such a great character in the game. As any other magical girl she is too struggling, but the anime just made her crazy and evil for no reason and makes her the final boss out of nowhere with out explanation. Alina is out of the screen while being troubled and silent most of season 2, so there is something going on with her, but the anime never shows what she is stuggling with. And this is annoying because she could have been a good "final boss" if the anime had put some effort in exploring her downfall into hopelessness for magical girls and how fed up she was with Kyubey's BS and the magical girl system that takes advantage of troubled girls. (This is not what Alina does in the game but it looks like those are her motivations in the anime.) The anime even had the guts to hint Karin but never added her to the plot. (She is the girl who appears as a shadow when Alina appears, and she is the girl who appears at the very end of the anime holding the picture that Alina did) Which is sad because it makes Alina a much more compeling character, since Karin is "Alina's hope". Alina's arc should have been the opposide of Yachiyo's, and Karin should have been shown failing to Alina where Iroha didn't fail to Yachiyo.

[@wektor2.075]

just watch the magia record gacha game story its way better written than the anime version i was very dissapointend that the anime didnt follow the games footsteps

[@sweetsilence6277]

It literally is one of the good examples of mahou shoujo since most of them are kinda mid and don't have any depth. The reason why fans hate it are nostalgia for the og series (there are a lot of examples how stuff like this is really hated). Another is that magia record is more down to earth. Madoka Magica has a lot more depth, there are a lot of things to uncover conceptualy. But it can't work with a spin-off. But still there are a lot of interesting themes that are developed through a bunch of characters. Yes, it's not as developed as the main series due to the quantity of characters, but it still is enjoyable and fascinating!

[@CrescentAnime]

@@sweetsilence6277 Interesting take!

[@HeledaneLukyamuzi]

My main problem was how Ui, Touka and Nemu found out about the witch system. The thing about learning about the witch system from a children’s book felt half-assed.

[@LunaTheUmbreon322]

honeslty... how to fix kuroe HAVE HER JOIN INOHA IN FINDING HER SISTER! like to my information, she is a charater made for the anime first, and then joined the game afterwards. so..have her with the main 5, have her slowly find out about the wings and then when the time comes, when felica and sena join them, boom, have her join them. that gives her more screentime, and a reason for you to care about her death. THERE! (granted im just kinda spitballing on ideas, but hey, it would make sense)

[@ИльяКоптюк-з3ж]

Tomoe killed Sakura in episode 10 when she found out the truth about witches. It's natural for her to join the magicians."Everyone will be saved"

[@peaveejay2700]

Also, SHAFT head tilt intensifies

[@TeaandSweets-hc2jc]

Since the game didn't have the same restrictions as the anime, each if not most of the girls in the final episodes are characterized with their own mini stories in the main game.

[@CrescentAnime]

@@TeaandSweets-hc2jc Thanks for the info. Didn't know that when I was researching for this video. Now that I think of it, it's been so long since I made this.

[@ghostknight4147]

I haven't watches the full vid yet but I'll just give my opions of it. Its OK but really dissapointing since it's manga and game counterparts have much much better story with fleshed out characters. I can see the reasons as anime has restricted time with only 20 mins while the game can go with 3 hr chapters. However I love what the show had did with momoko group. I think she's prolly one of the characters I don't mind her personality has changed and it can make sense. In anime, she's more of the chill laid back leader that is gentle towards her teammates. In manga however, she's shown as very invulnerable and not fit to a leader with a grudge agaiant yachiyo (for abondoning her). I see both versions make sense in reaction to her circumstance and past events. While I did say rena is cool, I did find her underwhelming in the anime where she seems kinda toxic and stubborn (not the good kind). In manga, she's like this early on but accepts she's not Co operative and inflexible to adapt, so in acknowledging her negative traits she improves which I don't think the anime has expanded on. She even takes the leadership role in guiding other less experianced magical girls during the finale. Btw that finale we see the main cast use their experiance and strength to guide other smaller groups of magical girls where I feel that was soo impactul and proved the character development they've undergoed. Finally, I feel yachiyo and iroha are really *really* bland in the anime and I can see why anime viweres see iroha as a madoka rip off. Manga I feel has done a better approach to those 2 characters. Iroha just felt like refreshing character with her her goofiness of not knowing how to use her damn phone and randomly smiling at cute things (idk I just felt that's hilarious). The blandness is also explained in the manga where iroha would just smile and try to fit in a group during her school yrs. Her friends even pointed out her blandness and that made her reflect on what she wants to aspire. Yachiyo is uhm... not focused on well with the crucial elements that need to be explored more. It's like taking away guts rage and struggles away forcing himself to be alone only to make him just say 'I should be alone as I only cause suffering to others with me' without going in to depth of why he's saying this. Why Im being really harsh to yachiyo is cuz she's soo great in the manga. She remind of hotaru (my fav sailor gaurdian) of showing the consequences of choosing the silent suffering path. Refusing aid and advising iroha to stay away without further eloborating on anything. In contrast to momoko who spent time and relieved some pressure away by tasking the time to hear her missing sister story. The habit of pushing away and refusal to explain why is a flaw iroha was frustrated by that she decided to stand her ground and express that anger and outright saying yachiyo was wrong. Yachiyo with always dissociating her group as friends and call them 'accomplices' (which I don't remebr anime doing that expect for only when she told mifuyu they're not her friends). To conclude, I am someone with too much free time ranting on a random spin off. So just feel dissapointed and underwhelmed with the show.

[@CrescentAnime]

Thanks for adding about Momoko's group. I didn't really have much time to analyze them as I've had just much to rant about only regarding the MCs, let along the side characters. But looking back, I just knew about Momoko and Rena. I really thought they were just as what the anime shows, but knowing from you they do have better development in the other counterparts is good to hear, especially Rena, which in the anime I feel like she's kinda childish.

[@DraptorRonin]

While I do agree that Touka and Nemu continuing on with their plot that would effectively end the world and everyone they love that isn't a magical girl, even after coming to their senses is not great writing, isn't that just. something cult leaders do irl once they come to that point in their careers? Like, when I was watching it unfold, I actually said to myself out loud "Well that's not realistic--- (remembers how cults at their end stage tend to behave, and how their leaders tend to only double down, even if it's obvious to them that what they're doing is wrong) huh, maybe it's not that unrealistic after all..."

[@lizabey]

Honestly, the worst part about the anime was that it was three seasons long, instead just a couple... followed by five more seasons for the game's Arc 2-- There are so many Arc 2 character I wanted to see get Shafted. Where is my Yuna head tilt??

[@CrescentAnime]

@@lizabey Tbh I don't think they took this project wholeheartedly at that time. And since (likely) at the end of the last season they were already greenlighting the Madoka Movie 4 so maybe they thought there's no reason to do more Magireco for now.

[@The_Prizessin_der_Verurteilung]

It had some good things 1. Kuroe (basically god) 2. The story was decent. 3. Kuroe (gods wish they were her) But people who played the games in the US, Japan, or the only English speaking nation according to Aniplex USA, the US, it supposedly falls short of that story.

[@rain28980]

I LOVE SLICE OF LIFE

[@rain28980]

hidamari sketch was the closest thing that i have seen to a madoka slice of life

[@Starriaaa]

It was just a generic post Madoka dark magical girl anime. Its a lot better than the other sad attempts at a dark magical girl show

[@The_Prizessin_der_Verurteilung]

It had one thing over the generic ones, this one has Kuroe (basically god) to carry it to greatness.

[@zefi5051]

I stopped right after minute one. The audience MUST realise that it's not Puella☆Magi☆Madoka☆Magica, it's Magia Record which is basically holds the same title and the same concept as the original, however, no one said that it will be a direct drama as the original series. The original series got only 12 episodes to tell the story, while Magia Record got like 30 episodes in total, it has a much longer time to construct the story or just to build up the story from a different angle. There's so much going on in Magia Record, like: Iroha's sister, the mini kyubey, witches gathering to kamihama, kamihama as a concept, the other magical girls, the discovered connect mechanism, the DOPPEL mechanism, Magius, the sisters and their plan. Like, how do you want all that to fit it in 12 episodes? Under the genre of drama, we even got a sub genre as Slice of Life. Magia Record literally maxed itself out and it's just as good as the original series, it's just shows us a different viewpoint. So in a sentence, Magia Record hasn't failed. Maybe for other who can't make a difference between the two shows.

[@potts11037]

you stopped a minute in? the person in the video literally compares and contrasts aspects of both magia record and the original show

[@zefi5051]

@@potts11037 The thumbnail picture told me otherwise, and the first minute is literally indicated on what I wrote down. Guess that was an "attention grabbing" thumbnail.

[@potts11037]

@@zefi5051 OHH, yeah that makes sense. youtube do be like that

[@BrynQuintillus]

Being different isn’t the problem it just lacks good character writing and doesn’t feel as well rounded as the original. Its not bad its just not as good as the original

[@TaigiTWeseFormosanDiplomat]

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