Breaking Down Made in Abyss S2 Before it Breaks Me

[@artaum5635]

About Riko liking the village, you are not supposed to agree with her She is OBSESSED with exploring new things NO MATTER HOW AWFUL they turn out to be. Her being described as "a piece of reanimated meat drawn to the abyss" by Ozen and Bondrewd saying they're alike are not just those characters being edgy, Riko is not a normal person by any means. She is actually a lot like Wazukyan, she does not do hurtful things on purpose, but is not afraid to use the concequences of others' suffering if it's unavoidable anyway. That was firmly established in the Ido Front arc, where she left Bondrewd to his own devices just because it's Prushka's will and fighting further is a risk to her own journey. I believe the series is building up to her making increasingly dubious decisions later on.

[@Marekthejester]

And TBH, such a personality is probably what it takes to truly conquer the abyss. Notice how all white whistle save for Bondrewd and Ozen have crossed the point of no return and delved into the abyss ? The abyss attraction is almost irresistible but to survive in such hostile environment, you cannot afford to be nice and considerate.

[@AmachiEligwe]

I am pretty sure you're supposed to agree with her given Vueko also agrees with her. While the Village's origin is evil, it is now a relatively wholesome place. Even Faputa was conflicted about destroying it.

[@czteryS]

I'd say that the fact that she likes it is sincere, and it is the sole reason that she can live and survive. The interpretation you presented is perfectly valid, but it can be much more optimistic - no matter what horrors you encounter, if you have passion and it drives your will to live, you will pursue happiness, and find it even where seems to be only fear and sufferring.

[@fancymclad1187]

is that arin hanson as your profile pic?

[@artaum5635]

@@fancymclad1187 It's Eren from Attack on Titan lol (with faceapp smile and grain filter)

[@runtergerutscht4401]

Riko liking the village is a major red flag and, for me, signals that she is losing/doesn't have a functioning moral compass. She doesn't judge Wazukyan for his actions because, like her, he was delving into the abyss for his own ambition. It seems like, for her, crimes against humanity are cool as long as you're following your desire. Following your desire/wish no matter the price is a big aspect of the story, Prushka's desire/wish was to go on an adventure with Riko, Reg and Nanachi, with Bondrewd's blessing, and she did. Bondrewd did not try to pursue or stop them anymore, and whatever is left of her is forever following Riko as her white wistle. The abyss is a wish-granting place. It rewards you with your desire, you just have to pay the price. I wonder what price Riko will pay

[@andresarancio6696]

Loss of humanity is considered a necessity to become a White Whistle. Riko is slowly becoming a monster in all but appearance to become the Sovereign of Children

[@runtergerutscht4401]

@@andresarancio6696 Technically she's already just a reanimated piece of meat, but yes. She will continue to subtly become more and more evil

[@AroundTheBlockAgain]

Oooh that's ominous as hell, I really hope you and the author are on the same track. That would be horrifyingly fascinating.

[@Tacticaviator7]

Man, you should rewatch the show, Riko was always fairly non standard when it came to morals from the very start.

[@runtergerutscht4401]

@@Tacticaviator7 you may note that I did not exclude that oerspective.

[@iferlyf8172]

Btw Irumui's babies were originally meant to be human-shaped but the higher ups decided to draw the line there (there are so many other places they could have drawn a line without affecting the story tho)

[@ghostthelizard]

Amazing how this is the place where they draw the line

[@kymo6343]

The line shoulda been drawn like several lines back...

[@marocat4749]

Yeah what if they, oh just hint more instead be graphic with her , getting groped all the time ok And can you not gropr reg all the time, sosu if its not too detailed i am fine with the shitting , to a degree , not too explicit

[@Altraly]

I feel like the babies being some sort of alien creature makes more sense and it adds more to the mystery of how those wish granting relics work. If they were humanoid I'd imagine a lot of people would drop the series, probably myself included.

[@martrex2]

source?

[@flowerpatchtoons1101]

I hate how creepy the author is. This is a genuinely good and creative story but it's RUINED by his WEIRD FETISHES WITH CHILDREN INVOLVED

[@flowerpatchtoons1101]

@@oriandthesleepytime truuuuue.

[@Kageryushin]

Just let the man cook. Or let him cope, frankly. He's obviously been through something horrible himself. Drawing racy things isn't a crime. As long as he keeps his demons under control and doesn't hurt anybody, he's not actually done anything wrong. Between someone who doesn't even bother to conceal his fetishes, but whose work is overflowing with sincere empathy for victims of abuse above all else like Tsukushi, and somebody who showed no signs of being a predator and yet actually hurt someone else like Tatsuya Matsuki, I'd take Tsukushi.

[@pankachi.978]

@@Kageryushindude sthu

[@_tyler32]

@@pankachi.978well said!

[@_tyler32]

@@Kageryushin maybe let him cope on his own? Don’t make it a fucking anime for people to watch. If you’re into kids you should probably get help, not make a fucking anime about it.

[@freakinggenius5710]

Some gore and uncomfortable moments are there to show how wild life is dangerous and it's not a child's play anymore. Some moments shows the reality of exploring and camping - the problem with food,water,the toilet, where to sleep, what meds to take. The realism is what sells to me. BUT Some moments are literally unnecessary and there only for fansevice if not worse. Why are the kids wear not that many clothes? Why some much attention to the girl's body and her innocence? Why the molesting? Why the creeps?

[@Raiethstar]

Honestly I see the sexual predation as an extension of that brutal realism. Why would we never allow two children to explore the world alone? The would be kidnapped and raped. The part I have trouble with is how the original story, and the anime sometimes, treats this as if not a good thing, then at least a neutral thing. It’s the lack of alarm that gets me. There are very view scenes that treat abusing kids as solely bad. Some scenes do unfortunately make narrative sense, like the punishment hanging, and Reg’s reaction to it. It shows how the whole society treats children as disposable tools, with privacy and clothing as privileges, not rights. Reg’s reaction shows it’s not universal, he thinks it’s weird and wrong. And it is. But I think it shows the deep corruption of Orth long before the story makes it obvious.

[@claireng9957]

@@RaiethstarI can’t see his fetishistic tendencies as an extension of the brutality because it isn’t portrayed as brutal or a bad thing. A child in bondage is literally the first gag. There’s no need to focus on that one scene where the mc pees in that elevator in the movie. The fact that it isn’t called out and objected in the manga or anime means it’s not being a commentary or jab at child predation/ sexual harassment/ p3dophilia. Also it becomes really obvious that it’s just the mangakas fetish when u see the art book & bonus art pieces from the manga.

[@SunneeDragon]

Gosh I love people pointing the realism out. Yes it’s uhm, pretty uncomfortable but do we really know how to survive in an abyss with lots of unknown beings, etc?? Of course this doesn’t make the content ok in any means but it’s definitely a way to explain and show the sort of world they exist in, and it’s honestly extremely effective.

[@LibraryofAcousticMagic3240]

@@SunneeDragon to me it feels like one of these series where s**ual abuse is seen as storyworthy while consensual s** is not. This never made sense to me. I don't think it's worth protecting.

[@custos3249]

@@Raiethstar Again, literally the only intelligent take here. Sad how people put their fears ahead of anything else, but that's the reality and consequence of projection. Ya have that scary tingle but rather than face why for what it may mean, even unrelated to the person's own hidden drives, it's attackattackattackattack.

[@blitzedbrush304]

Thank you for talking about the gross fetishes in this show I feel like ppl love to praise it while ignoring all the really gross and wrong things it’s filled with. We all know this is more then just shock value fr I can’t watch it

[@Yggdraseed]

Most of the people who love and praise it fully acknowledge that stuff. It's just that I, personally, don't need a work of fiction to conform to my moral beliefs as they apply to real life.

[@Bluestlark]

In all fairness the anime nerf the shit out of the diddler stuff and it's way worse in the manga, I couldn't read it was too gross and too dark jesus christ. And dude also put an awful lot of fanservice of children in vikine, while yes these are cartoon, you are not putting cartoon non-humans in vikini you are drawing children and nothing else, that's not right either.

[@Night_Raptor_5991]

dude not even trying to hide his fetishes when writing his history 💀

[@denofpigs2575]

@@Night_Raptor_5991 As he shouldn't. He should be allowed to express his art however he pleases.

[@denofpigs2575]

Why are you bitching about you not liking it? You don't like it, don't watch it. It's REALLY that simple.

[@Cass0wary_399]

37:23 The manga had an extra chapter that follows up the scene in season 1 episode 12 that was cut from the second season. It was Leader visiting Ozen in the second layer and discussing the Birthday disease. The same extra chapter also had the scene were Reg found all the funeral plates falling into the 6th layer, but without adapting all of it, it’s significance is not as noticeable.

[@Javifaa]

Correction, the scene of Reg finding the name plates was a part of chapter 42, but it was moved to the end of extra 3 (published to commemorate the release of volume 3), which has already expanded to have a couple of unpublished pages in between its original release and the new end.

[@TekkatV2]

I started watching this because I thought it was going to be a cute, fun, adventure anime Boy was I wrong

[@williambarnes5023]

I mean... it is... *_also_* a cute fun adventure anime. Once you're done with lolis pooping tapeworms and sexualized bellybutton stabbing and people's bodies melting into living vaginas with teeth.

[@shizenkv]

i started watching this because i thought it was just gonna be creepy and gorey but got pdedophelia instead

[@jonathansibrian695]

But it's cute AND funny

[@SomethingDiabolical-lw5nx]

@@shizenkv Yeah, you ever notice how it's never treated as OK that bad stuff happens to the kids? You can use dark themes and not support them directly ya weirdo.

[@shizenkv]

@@SomethingDiabolical-lw5nx its not treated as ok and executing dark themes is possible blablabla- nothings gonna change the fact that the guy who wrote the manga is a creep toward his child characters sorry 😔

[@crutonman1547]

the most funny thing about Made in Abyss is all the copium that its die-hard fans huff to justify the authors unhinged and clear fetish art, the lore and story is really interesting but its a travesty how gross it is. the more recent chapters (spoilers i guess??) involving the kids missing their limbs really confirmed it in my head, hes a total creep

[@Birdyboys]

I’ll never forget when fans harassed Prozd for days for rightfully saying “I like this show but I wish it didn’t have that creepy shit”

[@katyusha1283]

I guess this is a case of separating a creator and his work

[@crutonman1547]

@@katyusha1283 the work is still full of fetishes?? It's impossible to separate them bc he's already tainted it fundamentally

[@tibiademon9157]

@@katyusha1283 Do you mean separating the creator from his work, or do you mean trying really hard to pretend his work isn’t full of creepy pdf shit

[@aj9751]

I agree that Nanachi being essentially stunlocked for most the season was kind of annoying. However I got a different reading from retreading the Mitty ground again. The important thing from that scene was that Nanachi put Mitty down this time, with no help from anyone else. This imo is where Nanachi has huge growth in their internal strength. It reminds me of when it comes time to make the impossible choice to put down a beloved pet. It's easier, if not still difficult, to let someone else do it while you wait and try to process your grief alone. It takes immense strength and love to be there and hold them as they go and that's what I felt when Nanachi carried Mitty away themself. Anyways tho, great video and breakdown that was really interesting and entertaining analysis!

[@runtergerutscht4401]

It could also be related to Vueko not being able to release Irumyui. Irumyui's and Mitty's situations being basically the same, and all.

[@theamazingwrabbit]

Yesss I came here to say this exactly. It's important that Nanachi has to let go of Mitty themselves. So I felt this moment was actually necessary to their character development.

[@andresarancio6696]

I would say it also adds a whole layer to tie back the "value" theme of the arc. Riko and Reg have their owns struggles with the concept of value and wishes during the season (Reg about the value of connections to others and Riko about the value of goals, and both about the sacrifices and scams you are willing to make to get away with what you want) and Nanachi's is about the value of memories and nostalgia. Sure, there probably was a better way of doing this, but I think its thematic value is worth it

[@jbear3478]

I also found it realistic. Grief really messes with you and I’m glad she weren’t afraid to stray from a linear grieving process

[@temporaneo617]

I disagree with your analysis. To me Nanachi already "put down" Mitty when she gave Reg the ok to fire, because Mitty was still alive not because Nanachi didn't want to kill her, only because she lacked the practical means to do so. Keep in mind that before meeting Reg, she had already tried many different approaches to kill her (we're shown her trying to poison her for example). Nanachi hesitated only for a few seconds, but in the end she still metaphorically pulled the trigger

[@lucklesslackey]

Made in Abyss is honestly a great anime with some of the best world building and characters I've seen, the unfortunate part is that the author is suspicious af. I've managed to enjoy it well enough despite all the weird shit the author throws in because the rest is just too good to pass up. MiB is probably the only anime series I'd recommend not to dig too deep into, especially the manga because the cover arts are not something you can proudly say "Yeah that's part of my manga collection"

[@bugjams]

"Suspicious" is putting it lightly. Apparently the physical manga copies are even worse, with "bonus art" of the main characters that I'd rather not describe. There's no "ifs" or "maybes" about this, the author is 100% a creep who should be put on a watch list or something.

[@SunneeDragon]

@@bugjams yeah it’s unfortunate, I own most of the manga and can say that yeeeeaah.. the ‘bonus’ art is definitely something that shouldn’t exist. I’ve grown really desensitized unfortunately for this sort of stuff as of late. At least the mangaka only makes chapters very rarely, maybe like twice a year if lucky? I’m just here for the breathtaking inking in the pages at this point. (Especially with recent events in the manga lol)

[@jhawkshaw]

I mean he did admit himself that drawing manga was the only thing that kept him from becoming a criminal

[@SomethingDiabolical-lw5nx]

WE KNOW THATS ALL YOU GUYS TALK ABOUT.

[@-queen0frobots-]

THIS

[@Raiethstar]

I think I’ve figured out why everyone looks down Reg’s pants. He’s a doll. What’s the first thing most people do to dolls? Look at the undercarriage. Reg’s anatomically correct too, hence all the adults being vaguely confused. It is strange from a scientific perspective, why is he anatomically correct? He’s a robot, a doll. Can he breed? Was he born rather than made?

[@scienceandponies]

Was he made by Noonien Soong?

[@janinecat1865]

Not just that, the more informed cave explorers know him to be an artificial life form, not an intelligent automaton - meaning his kind can reproduce and have the bits for it.

[@custos3249]

@@Raiethstar Wow. Contrast to the average "it's just all creepy" comment on the video/video itself, this was amazingly salient and insightful.

[@retrohanska4441]

In vacuum I would agree with you, but with all the other blatantly obvious fetish shit it's kinda hard to give the author benefit of the doubt that in this particular case he didn't wanna do anything weird.

[@comandercarnis]

​@@janinecat1865I'm all but convinced that reg is a cyborg, doubly so after seeing the new characters in the recent chapters.

[@glowstickqueen7139]

I remember being gifted the manga after finishing the show, and knowing that the show is at best a sanitized version of what's in the manga, I couldn't bring myself to actually read it.

[@Trentkobe]

This this this. I bailed on the manga after being excited to continue after season 1. Even then, it needs to have even heavier editing if a season 3 gets made.

[@ChristianSherwood-DeLaNort-r8x]

The Manga had one frontal nudes every volume. Zero of these were adults. Yikes.

[@Javifaa]

Weaklings. The anime doesn't censor much (nipples and a couple of angles), the rest is mostly untouched.

[@glowstickqueen7139]

@@Javifaa cool, you want a cookie for saying we're weak for not wanting to look at potential child porn? I didn't expect the anime would be so oddly explicit when first going in.

[@Javifaa]

@@glowstickqueen7139 that's the thing, it isn't even close to what you guys fear. And even if it was, so what? It doesn't involve real life kids, so the only reason it would be illegal (in a lot of countries, anyway, some are stupid and refuse to distinguish between fictional and real life people) doesn't even apply.

[@Cuddlebear6969]

When it comes to those questions at the end: Majikaja explains that his (actual) body is made of gases, and that he uses vessels that are designed for him to be able to move around. When possessing Faputa, Faputa's body isn't a proper vessel, so he declares that it will result in his death. Effectively imply that he could always do it, but if he ever did it, it would likely kill him, and in the moment that he did do it, it results in his death. The location/usefulness/relevance of Blaze Reap is a good question, it has always felt lackluster despite it's implied importance. Though they did also clarify that it's basically on the verge of being useless due to it's current condition and wear-and-tear if I remember correctly. That said, I have no idea where they're going with it aside from having it as an option in desperate situations. The economy of the Golden City is just kind of based on personal value. You touch on it a bit in the video, but when it comes to as to why Riko herself (and body parts) are considered valuable is left somewhat vague due to the fact that it's based on both the value of herself and what other people value it at. For instance the "Step On Me" guy values getting stepped on by small creatures, and thus there's a value for that that he dictates. In a sense, if you wanted to buy something for $100, but someone else wanted to buy it for $200, the item is worth $200. If the person won't sell it for less than $300 then it's worth $300. Riko is likely just considered very valuable in the eyes of the Hollows due to the fact that very few children, and even people, manage to make it to their location while retaining their human form in it's upmost purity. The birthday disease gets more insight in the manga at the time of this comment and upload date of the video.

[@alissamoon5812]

Honestly i think Nanachi's arch was about grief. Grieving a loved one never linear it jumps around and in this she was literally in the barging stage of grief. It shows how much she was actually feeling even after those events.Wallowing in grief can leave you stunted which it did this season. The only way nanchi could get to acceptance is through killing this fake mitty that she was holding onto. Honesty i think it was perfect for her character. So many times we see characters die that we actually forget a person may have not accepted it. Especially when they put up tough facade like nanchi and i feel that's why it was easy to gloss over as the same arch. Its the same person not the same group of feelings. This is just my perspective as i grieving to and i completely felt like nanchi.

[@supremesenpai8932]

The lore is cool but I’m never watching that

[@partymantis3421]

That is the right opinion to have i think. The author has some stellar ideas, but constantly muddys them with his wierd fixations making it just not worth it

[@cakechantv]

based decision

[@SomethingDiabolical-lw5nx]

@@partymantis3421 Then why even engage with anything around it? You're actively trying to stop art just because it makes you uncomfortable.

[@albedoweatheruno]

​@@SomethingDiabolical-lw5nxyou seem to be leaving out the bit where child characters are being sexualised, thats not an artistic decision, thats the author being creepy (and dont try to argue that its fine because its fiction, because this kind of content obviously appeals to a certain crowd)

[@milk-ii5mp]

@@SomethingDiabolical-lw5nxcreepy pedophilia is art now? Damn

[@ThatGoatLady42069]

Honestly, despite how ...odd MIA can come across as, I think it portrays a beautiful story with loads of hidden meanings in the stories of the characters and how they act throughout the main story. It genuinely moved me to tears and I am not ashamed to say that MIA is an amazing anime/manga series.

[@colostomybag9201]

Nah the hidden meanings don’t work in his favor when they are just centered around viewing children inappropriately. It’s an interesting concept with interesting character design dragged down by the not so innocent desires of the author. There is tumbler-weird and there is having straight up pedophillic tendencies. I hope you never misjudge someone in real life as safe only for them to do something horrible.

[@colostomybag9201]

They made Faptas Ass smell a commercial product. -no further questions your honor

[@ThatGoatLady42069]

@@colostomybag9201 To each their own. Also pretty fucked up to just assume I'd be a horrible judge of character irl considering you know nothing about me and my experiences, lol.

[@ThatGoatLady42069]

@@colostomybag9201 Like I said, MIA can come across as odd, (and downright gross at times) BUT it has a very beautiful message underneath all that author perverseness.

[@RaidenKozuki-x8t]

"Perversion is excusable as long as I can find a hidden meaning". That's a no from me dawg. Child abuse themes are just wrong when the manga itself portrays kids in a sexual light, esp bondrewd being a child abuser? What a bs contrived trope, what bondrewd does happens in real life, I'd rather donate to fight actual human traffickers than cry about fake children being abused.

[@emeseszigetvari9013]

I love the world building and the story but there are so many suspicious fetishy parts, all of them including kids, that it is hard to ignore, and I have high tolerance to disturbing and sexual stuff. I'm reading the manga as well and the story is also getting a bit messy, too much new characters and some unnecessary jokes. And those damned twins. I gagged at their scenes. They have all feitshes in one (two) persons, I can't really see any other reason why they are included.

[@anthonymejia1769]

You a trans, You racist sorry i no speaker to English

[@trees.grow.on.pineapples8969]

I hate the twins sm, i hate the author more for making the twins, I'm enjoying where the story is going so far but the twins made me so angry, just the fact they're the cover, the fact they're constantly sexulised, there's no need, like sexulise the adult okay fine that is obviously an adult BUT THE (BASICALLY) CHILDREN??? pisses me off so much, like the author has shown time and time again he can design characters, he can write amazing characters but has also shown he can't keep his hands of drawing lolicon

[@emeseszigetvari9013]

@@trees.grow.on.pineapples8969 yea, most things before that aren't that obvious but the twins are there blatantly just to be sexualized >:(

[@michajastrzebski4383]

10:30 tbh, the toilet scene is quite worse, when you read the manga. And get to know that the toilet is also a narehate, and is the inn's employee. Maybe someone really loved to eat ass, or something. Yep, canonically. Also, Cradles of desire, are not star compasses. They just have similar shape inside them, thats all. Its stated that round relics in general are connected to wishes in some way, but the two are not the same. On Juroimoh, its basically a construct without its own will - that posesses some characteristics and name of original Juroimoh the fucked up daddy figure, but thats it. Its fully under the village's own remote control, like a drone. Its not exactly "protecting" the village, either. Its goading Reg to shoot it, to get him to open the way for Faputa's vengeance to get inside - which was Irumyuui's plan all along, after all. Majikaja doesnt just posess Faputa - he feeds her with his body/value. BTW, did you notice that Faputa gets little quirks here and there, from the hollows she devoured? She does that kaja's claws clacking move at the end for a reason ;) Why kids are so valued by the villagers? Here's two questions - who created the village AND hollows, and what did she value most? Irumyuui's creations did take on some of her characteristics as well...

[@runtergerutscht4401]

The toilet hollow just enjoys being a toilet. I'd presume it eats anything the guests drop down there. And the big guy with the complicated name was attacking reg because any part of Faputa has essentially infinite value. It'd wreck the economy, hence why he intervened. And since there's already a bunch of cool trivia here, here's some more: Belaf is so big and powerful because he's supposed to be the village's hunter. He can endure being outside the village's barrier for a while. This is why he could fight/face Faputa while the curse of the abyss was entering the area where they were fighting. Also also: He is blind. He used to have eyes, but he gave them up as one of the many body parts he sacrificed to make the village manifest Mitty. It was this expensive because she's an infinite food hack.

[@kiwidoh]

Thank you for the breakdown that’s all incredibly interesting to learn for the story!

[@retrohanska4441]

To sum up the manga in general: whatever makes you disgusted in the anime is worse in the manga. Some of the 0.5 chapters and cover page art are also just softcore hentai and the soft part is sometimes very generous.

[@viaxxl]

Faputa claws opening and closing was something I never caught before, thanks!

[@Seannessy]

You know I used to think that the show could just be fixed if all of the characters were adults, but after watching this I really do not think there is any possible change you could make to salvage it.

[@kymo6343]

I mean I still don't feel like seeing a full-grown woman taking a dump but it's better than a kid...

[@seagullman87]

I think you could salvage it by making minor tweaks here and there, mainly just by limiting out the weird fetish shots. You can still make a character be a survivor of childhood SA as an important part of their history, sure. Just don't depict other children casually being strung up naked, or walk around in scantily-clad clothes, as neither of those things really contribute anything meaningfull to the story. There are ways to tell stories about child abuse, without also drawing said children in unnecessarily sexualized poses.

[@elcatrinc1996]

@@seagullman87 Agree

[@cyancat8633]

​@@seagullman87so just like Harry potter can fanfics salvage this

[@Bladezeromus]

Honestly, I wouldn't change a damn thing. I'd rather it equally weird and disturbing than sanitized for anyone's comfort.

[@ShiraCheshire]

Ohhh! So THAT'S why her wish goes so wrong! I was so confused thinking about that, because like you need a child and they definitely got one, but now that you say it it makes sense. The real issue wasn't child vs adult, it was innocence, and the only kid there had waaaay too much trauma. It makes sense now.

[@AroundTheBlockAgain]

You know the comment section is bad when the video says "the series is fascinating if somewhat gross and the author a little sus", a comment will say "yeah the series is fascinating if weird", and this gets the comment dogpiled by teenagers who got upset at Steven Universe. Folks, this isn't worth harassing people over, chill.

[@manateemaestro4966]

Why is there butt perfume? 😭😭😭😭😭

[@Cass0wary_399]

Tsukushi

[@Raiethstar]

Almost all animals have butt perfume. Mammals especially. It’s called musk. It’s why dogs sniff each other’s butts. It’s also why panty sniffing is a thing.

[@zerochrome85]

@@Raiethstar but its still wierd

[@dan_mnght]

​@@zerochrome85I don't think they said it wasn't... or that it was, for that matter.

[@custos3249]

@@zerochrome85 That non-human, fictional characters would do things we wouldn't? Yeah...... Totally weird 🙄

[@nuggyfresh6430]

Using stairs is the biggest rip in the manga for sure lol

[@Beeontree]

I refuse to watch anime with kid characters because they are often sexualized. It’s so weird and common in Japan for some reason.

[@06j5str2u]

Not every anime does it, but, yeah, japan definitely has serious major problems and issues

[@_tyler32]

Same here, i can’t say i hate anime but i’m so genuinly scared of a child or just a character with a childish appearance being sexualized (or highschoolers that are 16-17) that i just can’t watch anything anymore. I have to do serious research into what i’, about to watch because seeing a kid being sexualized ruins my entire week

[@manuelferrari6685]

@@_tyler32 you snowflakes are hilarious 🤣

[@peenywallie]

Same but with western shows and old, post-wall hags.

[@greentoothybrush]

​@@manuelferrari6685 Not snowflakes, just concerned. Sexualizing a kid is gross.

[@gusty7153]

another thing is there's significant time dialation so a normal person can have only a few months to a few years pass for them while in the abyss and end up missing out on decades to centuries.

[@MrRoflfox]

I think a lot of the time the sexual content in the show undermines the characters in the story by the the fact that it is needlessly exaggerated.

[@shizenkv]

i could even ignore it if it wasn't focused on the children

[@milly9264]

i had to stop reading the manga cause it made me so uncomfortable 😭the story is so good, its a shame the author is so weird

[@prettyspectrum6371]

The way you explained the creation of lord of the rings, you may have hit right at the truth with this story. That would explain so much about it, i do in fact believe the creator made this world in a post nut clarity.

[@Zakading]

You can really tell the difference of him writing pre-nut and post-nut. It's like a continuous cycle of him writing random fetish shit, getting off, then continuing to write an absolute banger, then getting too horny again.

[@Aaano]

The reason for the Children being the most important and valuable is that the the occupants cannot have children. ALSO The will of the City (AKA Irimui) was to "Have children" so OF COURSE the Balancing valued children the most. ITS FIRST GRADE MSTH, SPONGEBOB.

[@toonrex2806]

Anyone else think that the creator of Made in Abyss should be on a watchlist?

[@cyruslupercal9493]

No.

[@bluealtas9976]

yes

[@rockstarbonett886]

Maybe.

[@minolilo]

i think he is already on many watchlists, my guy

[@chaoshazzard]

@@minoliloconsidering how Japan is, I’m sure he isn’t.

[@mathieuw3899]

Ain't no way I got an ad of a Granola breaking in two pieces right after 18:24. 💀

[@KaibutsuHime]

I SAID THIS YEARS AGO BUT NOBODY WOULD LISTEN TO THE MANGA READER URG Seriously, the anime watchers would say it doesn't matter and the artist's fetishes didn't matter as long as the story isn't impacted. The thing is, if the manga readers NOTICED it, it's because it's in-your-face!

[@denofpigs2575]

It doesn't matter. Cry.

[@KaibutsuHime]

@@denofpigs2575 Yes it fucking does

[@denofpigs2575]

@@KaibutsuHime No. It doesn't. Cry. Don't like it, move on. Many more manga and anime for you to enjoy. Not everything has to cater to your sensibilities, Karen.

[@KaibutsuHime]

@@denofpigs2575 lmao why did you even click on this video man. You are so triggered by the fact that I dislike those unnecessaries scenes and now you are like ''Karen pleeease I beg you D: go enjoy something else''. Criticism is allowed you know, it's not because you are a sheep that everyone gotta do like you. You can turn off your brain to enjoy something, but the rest of the world don't have to. Anyway tata and all LMAO

[@denofpigs2575]

@@KaibutsuHime A) I came to laugh a pearl clutchers because you never fail to make me chuckle. You're honestly no different from the parents of the satanic panic of the 80s lunging themselves at Pokemon and D&D. B) It's not even criticism. You just don't like the content because it offends your sensibilities. You have no criticism you could offer it. "Less of thing I don't like" is not criticism, it's whining. Because you're unable to put aside (or even enjoy) the taboo nature of its depictions and themes. I also find it funny that nobody mentioned turning off their brain but you default to that. Curious. Is turning off your brain the only way you personally can enjoy something that doesn't make you comfortable? Actually I'll do you one better. Accept that it's a part of the show and that it's Tsukushi's vision. Not yours.

[@DangericeDreams]

Yeah…This is the one of the main reasons why I feel *embarrassed* to say I watched the first season of Made In Abyss. Watching the show sometimes *actually* made my stomach churn. And not because of the effective use of horror.

[@sailormoon1095]

The character designs alone I mean these kids are literally like undresses and putting clothes on in these clips alone and the lack of clothes in general, the concept designs are too much alone like the scenes actually make me gag tbh the one where like. I can’t even reiterate it fuck this anime I hate it the most I swear

[@godomoths242]

​@@sailormoon1095 the clothing and character Design? Honestly I think you are overreacting. Faputa and nanachi are both pretty much naked a lot but both of them are not very sexualised. Neither is riko really in the two scenes where we see her "naked" in season 1. Sure, the naked whipping part is weird but both in that scene and the scene where she is shirtless, we never see "Private parts" as they are either covered by her pigtails or because we view her from the back. This show has a lot of fetish stuff that I really dont like and I agree that that's pretty fucked up but the character Designs themselves are solid and not sexualizing. I get your criticism but...id suggest you rather criticise the actually problematic parts. The problematic parts are not how the characters look or what they wear, but what they do /what is done to them.

[@i.am.falling.i.am.fading]

​@@godomoths242 The manga has pinup type borderline hentai of the child characters on the back inner cover of each volume :( I discovered this AFTER buying a couple volumes when I was 14

[@godomoths242]

@@i.am.falling.i.am.fading oh my bad. Didnt k know that. I was talking about the show itself but at this point im honestly not surprised anymore. Just disappointed...

[@GamezPDD]

​@godomoths242 You only need a surface level glance at the charavters to see red flags of sexualization, you dont need all the extra bloat of context. Its very obvious and the fact you dont see it only points to your own desensitization.I suggest you do some self-reflection before telling others to do the same, because in this series its quite hard to miss, thats definitely on you.

[@NoxAtlas]

Made in Abyss is kind of like H.P. Lovecraft's works: extremely inspiring concept with an intriguing world building and style that makes it popular. But my god do the problematic themes and controversial obsessions of the authors ruin the experience!

[@Nudhul]

Shut up loser

[@Nudhul]

@@NoxAtlas you sound like a weenie

[@crazyhans]

Hmm yes, the neurotic xenophobe whose attitudes weren't far removed from the status quo of his era is definitely equivalent to an abject deviant paedophile who is judged as such even by other anime weirdos. Smoothbrain.

[@MrNeodylliphan]

Can we just get a fan edit with all the creepy stuff cut out?

[@Voltar69]

The entire thing would be gone at that point. You can't really separate them.

[@MrNeodylliphan]

@@Voltar69 Is season 2 really that bad? I didn't watch this review for fear of spoilers but I remember thinking that season one could have been edited. I was actually hoping the movies did that, but no luck. If it is that bad then I'm just gonna call it quits on the whole franchise right now.

[@denofpigs2575]

@@MrNeodylliphan The author openly likes drawing kids. He has zero remorse. And that's good.

[@LowerBudgetOppenheimer]

@@denofpigs2575 gro0mer inbound

[@metitfour131]

@@denofpigs2575 Thank you for waving your red flags. Really refreshing from all the discrete MAPs that try to hide it.

[@beatricezanoni5582]

I had to give my mangas away cause i couldnt really keep allowing that stuff to be in the same room where i sleep :/

[@martin5963]

i get such a weird creepy vibe with this series

[@SomethingDiabolical-lw5nx]

Grow up.

[@beatricezanoni5582]

@@SomethingDiabolical-lw5nx you don't live up to your username. Happy 6th hirthday! Hope mommy bakes you a pretty cake!

[@shadowchasernql]

@@beatricezanoni5582 is this a fetish

[@LanaKarvana]

@SomethingDiabolical-lw5nx Be more educated and understand people get uncomfortable, imbecile.

[@RenderingUser]

"I like disturbing stories" .... "yea but not that kind' Lmao

[@CliftaldaE]

In summary this anime could’ve been amazing if the creator wasn’t a creep

[@imnotnice5186]

This anime is amazing.

[@aim3k249]

@@imnotnice5186 If you can ignore a few things

[@Thready_Carnival]

Its honestly such a shame that such a good story was made by such a terrible person. As much as i love the series i just can't stomach recommending it to people. Hopefully in like 10 years itll get a remake or re-edit or something to tame it down a lot even more than the anime already does

[@Ehh97]

Made in abyss is the reason I dont trust anime youtubers anymore. I have watched a few of them that would praise the crap out of a show, but conveniently omit the messed up parts. I wish they would be more upfront with this shit instead of downplaying it or straight up not mentioning it

[@denofpigs2575]

@@mmecharlotte It's not healthy mistaking reality for fiction or vice versa.

[@fredthefish581]

It's not healthy whether it's fiction or reality bud

[@denofpigs2575]

@@fredthefish581 Let's assume it isn't. Why is that a reason it shouldn't have been made?

[@fredthefish581]

@@denofpigs2575 that wasn't what the conversation was about. We were talking about how this stuff isn't healthy and the unhealthyness is so normalized in the community that they can't even understand that most people would be repulsed by this and should be given a fair warning, not whether it should or should not be made.

[@denofpigs2575]

@@fredthefish581 Your concerns about health, while assumed to be in bad faith to justify your ickiness about it, are duly noted and ignored. Learn how to dissociate and differentiate reality from fiction. If you don't like it, move on. Whining about it and making "expose" style videos about the author's "disguised fetishes" is just cope revolving around being unable to dissociate from the thing giving you the ick. That's the root cause of all the bitching in this comment section and in this video. Either look past the ick or revel in it. Whining is annoying.

[@hillarybarboza5036]

I honestly thought they were a different species, kinda like in kaiba But after finding out I was wrong, in addition to how weird the creator was, I was horrified. The creator’s weird fetishes are definitely inserted in this anime…

[@venepskeuten9206]

On one hand, absolutely stunning worldbuildind and a deeply profound/touching story with a killer soundtrack. On the other hand, Borderline childporn, gore, vore, heavy fetishes disguised as story elements.

[@lokieleven374]

kinda wish the balance thing was real. some people id like to see ripped apart for the things they do or did, then again im sure id be visited by the balance a few times in life.... so... now im not sure.

[@colostomybag9201]

32:20 I hope the Mangaka learns about how ignorant he is towards adult woman and the concept of concent

[@dogryme6]

Say it louder for those in the back.

[@DJVirgoNeun1]

Good luck with that

[@co7769]

I hope you learn how ignorant you are towards grammar

[@kieravermeal9127]

Can you explain how it related to that clip? I'm genuinely curious

[@co7769]

@@colostomybag9201 oh he knows. Why do you think he made the deliberate choice to not include CONSENT in the story. It's part of it. Dingaling Also learn proper grammar before you jump to bigger subjects.

[@solis.xd0]

so uh, i watched the entirety of made in abyss ( anime ) while i was sick. SICK WITH THE DENGUE FEVER, so made in abyss has a place in my heart for being such a disturbing anime but one that kept me entertained for the whole time i was at the hostpital. Thanks!

[@radioactivefiretruck4635]

Okay, you made me chuckle pretty good several times in this, have my sub.

[@skellybelly6866]

Amazing video! I hope this vid gets more views!!! Ur explanations, humor, and editing were off the charts!

[@geiwvsvs]

i watched another video like this that talked about the fapta perfume and i finaly forgot about it. you forced me to remember

[@KingRidley]

I got to say, few things bother me more than learning that a creative project was just a vehicle for somebody's weird fetish.

[@reizak8966]

The Alolan Onyx joke was hilarious. 😂 Season 2 took some digesting before i could appreciate it. I love this series, and i wish it wasn't so... kinky? because I'd love to actually be able to recommend it to others. Or cosplay as some of the characters without attracting a bunch of weirdos... And yes. Please, yes. Give me a love action. It will be so bad!

[@ilikeyoutube7224]

In season 1, reko was the brains, reg was the brawn, and I thought nanochi would be the home field advantage. But in season 2, reg & nanochi r the main characters. Reko is the heart now. She feels like a background character when she was the protagonist originally...

[@williambackus2849]

She's impulsive as hell. But her intelligence is different than Nanachi's. Nanachi has street smarts, Riko has book smarts. Riko coming up with a method to dispose of the creature during the Luring showcased her intelligence a bit, but admittedly she's still a stillborn anomaly. I'd argue her strange detatchment towards danger and sorrow is because she aint right in the head.

[@oxfordcommaisthegreatest]

did we watch the same season 2? Riko and Reg were the main characters actually actively solving the mystery of the season, unless we're forgetting about Vueko??? All Nanachi did in season 2 was lie around with Belaf for the most part, like Nanachi got sidelined hard

[@ilikeyoutube7224]

@@oxfordcommaisthegreatest 🤔🤔🤔 idr much, so I could not tell u tbh. I just felt regi was a lot active in season 1 vs season 2

[@notthis9586]

I think *everyone* had less to do due the the slower, relativly action and intrigue light, pace of the plot. Plus like 1/4 of the arc being flashbacks to Wakuzan's group's descent. I actually had the biggest problem with Nanachi's story in s2. Just a boring blatant rehash of the Mitty story, and when she finally breaks out of her delusion... she just swings a fishing pole while the music unjustifiably swells. Yes Riko got almost nothing but Nanachi got regressed *and* had her role of fluffy merch-selling mascot partially supplanted 😢

[@treatbag]

My speculation on human children being the highest valued in Iruburu is that it probably has something to do with Irumyuui, since she was originally a human child and all.

[@AroundTheBlockAgain]

A human child whose greatest wish (after probably some horrific abuse) is to be a mother. It's horrifying but it lines up.

[@persivle9]

Weird fetish shit aside (because, jesus) the way the pacing shifts from Riko driving the plot to the villagers driving the plot and exposition at least makes sense given a very important shift in the plot. This is the first layer of the abyss that Riko knows next to nothing about and the only she does know is that no one comes back from the sixth layer.

[@VueiyVisarelli]

You know what I'd like to see? Someone go through and remove all the creeper bits (you _know_ what I mean), then put _that_ out. Also, whatever Japan's equivalent of the FBI needs to check the author's computer. If I hadn't been sick and had my decision-making processes compromised, I don't think I would've made it through the show. I don't think I could watch through it again...DEFINITELY skipped some parts...

[@renedahse6861]

I wish I didn't know this show existed. I won't watch it ever, which makes life better. One day I'll get my say, but I won't try, to hide or lie, Watching ppl defend softcore CP is aggravating me. This.

[@LutzTBS]

The way you type is upsetting me why do you press enter after every sentence

[@A-bp9hq]

The turning inside out of the lil cute thingy and then the ripped hand looking like a d that the protagonist holds is… 💀💀💀

[@mereru9681]

It’s a shame the author has to insert his weird creepy fetishes because it’s genuinely a good concept. I like the idea of the abyss and the curse and I want to enjoy it but it’s so uncomfortable. Gore is fine, body horror is fine, but the weird sexual stuff? No. I am not ok.

[@NyxHunter]

Nanachi doesn't have a canonical gender identity and is typical spoken about with gender neutral pronouns as such. Others have made this point as well but I want to elaborate on a part I think they missed. Nanachi's storyline makes total sense when your talking about someone dealing with grief. Grief is not a linear process and one can often times find themselves backsliding in progress when something triggers strong emotions or new revelations are discovered. So we need to think about not just what happens in the season but what has happened since Mitty's death in S1. Firstly we have to presume Nanachi has spent many hours wondering over and over if having Reg destroy Mitty was the right choice even after they came to that conclusion. Secondly they've grown closer with Riko and Reg, which is likely bring back memories of their time together before they became hollows. Lastly who did they have to deal with directly prior to S2. The mother fucking bastard of all bastards Bondrewd. Nanachi and Mitty's abuser. The reason for all the pain and suffering they experienced in the Abyss. The reason Mitty was cursed and had to be destroyed to end her suffering. And during that interaction Nanachi was helpless in the end to save Prushka from her tragic fate. Nanachi went through so much retraumatization and pain in the movie. And then they're given a false sense of hope that their best friend is still alive somehow and they can see her. Only to find Mitty2 being tortured by Belaf as a food source. So in a moment of pure desperation and grief they gives their life for Mitty, just as Mitty had done way back during the hollowfication. But Nanachi is then able to overcome their grief and by themself is able to end Mitty2. And in a way process the grief more completely, by not only making the decision but doing the action themself.

[@am0niac]

The relic which was used by Irumyui and Wazukyan wasn't the "star compass", it was actually the "cradle of desire". This part is important, since it was explained it the story, that the name of the village, Iruburu, has w few other meanings, one of them being "mother" (connecting it to Irumyui) and another one being "cradle" (connecting it to the relic). The star compass, which guided Vueko to the abyss was actually the same compass Riko had in the beggining of the story. She lost it in like episode 4 or so, which is curious, since it was generally not important for Riko's journey in any sense, which makes me believe, that there some sort of fate that made Riko find it in the first place (since Vueko gave it away probably like hundred of years before that). Or maybe there are a few of them. The value of human children in the village is very high for a very simple reason. The village IS Irumyui, who's biggest desire was to be a mother. I'm pretty sure all the hollows who live inside the village adopted some of Irumyui's views, I'm pretty sure it's comparable to some kind of religion at this point. Irumyui is their home, she's the reason they're alive, and she's the one who gave them their bodies. This brings me to another thing, I can agree about most things about the "fetish problem" you mentioned in the video, but I'm actually fine with how weird the villagers are. When I think about all the people that managed to come to the sixth layer and decided to modify their body and live in the village, I can't imagine that someone who's sane would do such a thing. As someone already mentioned in the comments, "desire" is one of the main themes in the story. And if your desire is so great you decided to descend to a sixth layer, you're one sick motherfucker. The greatest example of that is Riko herself. Vueko told her the story of the village, about how they're LIVING IN A HUMAN BEING WHO'S SUFFERED THE WORST FATE I CAN LITERALLY IMAGINE, and then, Riko says "I like this village" to Wazukyan. Really?? You like this village? You're okay with all of that?? I like to think, that the author of MIA wants to portray the abyss as a place that's out of human comprehension. Where the concept of shape, form, morality etc blends together and warps. Like that one guy who wanted to have lots of tubes inserted through his body. I'm pretty sure you can only have such a desire when the abyss corrupted your mind in some way, it's just so... Vague. Also, Majikaja and his body being smells. It was mentioned by Majikaja himself, that he REALLY enjoys collecting new vessels to live in, so I don't think he wanted to become smells, because he has some smell fetish or whatnot, but more like he really didn't want to have ONE definite physical form to stay in. It's like he wanted to get rid of his body all together. Also, notice how none of the villagers is judgemental about the others. They all simply accept that all of them have different desires and different forms they imagine themselves as. Also, I'm pretty sure the village isn't the "Golden city" Vueko kept talking about. I might be wrong about that, so It'd be great if someone can confirm this, but I'm pretty sure the Golden city was either already ruined when the Ganja crew reached the sixth layer, or perhaps it's hidden even deeper. I remember it being said in the show, that Reg is supposed to be the original resident of the Golden city, and he definitely didn't come from the village.

[@AroundTheBlockAgain]

This comment gets my vote for "best comment"!!

[@MultiRainbowDuck]

I love Made in Abyss it is such a shame the creator likes to put weird creepy shit in it.. the story is so interesting and unique it would be a masterpiece without the weird stuff

[@tonts5329]

That's how I've been feeling, especially after I finished Season 2. I 100% can't recommend the show, due to all the creepy stuff in it, hell I was close to dropping the show in Season one, til Nanachi and her plot came along. I doubt I'm going to watch Season 3 though, I stuck through season 2, just to watch all those creepy Hollows and their village collapse and die.

[@Drewsipher42]

Me and girlfriend Got about 30 minutes into the movie and noped the fuck out.

[@alpacarice2304]

*Q1. What happened to Raiza’s infinite gunpowder OP pickaxe?* A. By the time it was given to Rico it was worn out (nerfed) and had a limited amount of times it could be used. Not only is it too heavy to carry around the city, the gang may have wanted to conserve its use. Besides, Reg is versatile enough. *Q2. Why can Majikaja possess bodies? Why reveal it at that moment?* A. If he can contain himself in a “vessel” and control it, why not a body? Going inside bodies is most likely risky and limited considering they do not have an airtight seal. Majikaja possessed Fapta’s body as a last resort to help the gang survive the collapsing city. *Q3. What happened to the birthday disease?* A. The birthday disease is a phenomenon observed near and on the surface around the abyss. This is probably manga exclusive, but Ozen thinks the fact that civilizations surrounding the abyss die every 2000 years might have to do with this (remember the praying skeletons? Also Bondrude talking about “the next 2000 years” might have something). We have little idea of what’s occurring currently on the surface. Some ominous shots of Rico’s village being empty of people are shown (in the end credits of the 1st season) but we do not know if this is in the present or future. If something already did happen to the surface, then it would be some great dramatic irony. *Q4. How exactly does the economy of the city work?* A. The physical value of body parts (such as food) may not be what determines its price in the city, but its extrinsic value, such as rarity, or intrinsic value, such as potential. For example, Purushca (whistle) increased her value by being processed and fulfilling her potential. We could infer that something like a child’s body, a rarity (coming from outside the city) that holds intrinsic potential (to grow, change, etc.), would cost a pretty high price. So in other words, it’s kind of subjective. *Extra Question: Why would Rico like that creepy, dangerous city?* A. 1. The city is comprised of former adventurers that sought after the wonders of the abyss. There must have been something that resonated with her adventurous nature. 2. Fried spicy scrotum is delicious. 3. She’s a psycho who can understand (but not agree with) Bondrude’s wicked ways.

[@Co60-Ni60]

This anime is like if Harlan Ellison made an anime and also was a massive pervert

[@nidgithm]

i love world building, especially when its kinda "alien" and "weird" like in MIA, and i love tragic stories, so i found this series quite interesting. but the fetish-y stuff involving kids is just too much for me to be able to enjoy watching/reading this series.... honestly if all the kids were just adults id be fine with the weird stuff, but it being kids is where i draw the line

[@aleaa6369]

you definitely deserve way more, you gained a subscriber

[@CheesecakePudding]

Blaze reap, the pickaxe, IS actually shown in season 2 during a flashback to Reg's time with Faputa. I saw this as a huge key point to the story coz it means he had it befire he even met Riko. Which means he could be the one to palce it by the flowers. Why? I guess we'll have to see.

[@NomadicWanderer11]

I watched the first season of Made in Abyss and it was a bit gory/depressing for my taste but I still wanted to continue the story because I just want to know what is at the bottom. However, the second season has confirmed that this story is just too much for me. Thanks for the quick overview to keep me in the loop. Unfortunately I don't think I'll tune into this story again until they explain what is at the bottom and why Riko's mother asked Rika to follow her (which I suspect the letter was forged.)

[@Schlutophen2]

I always thought the whole setting was speaking to the idea of evolution and dna. The proverbial descent into the abyss is the descent to the roots of evolution, nature or self? Something like that. Answers why going up you evolve as a physical organism and comfort into something up the evolutionary dna/interaction with cellular biology shit, hence the body horror. Furthermore, that’s why robots don’t change they operate differently. Kind of a question of what at the root of man makes them a person and how nature, a mechanical nature of a thing, transcends this measure of humanity. Hence why the further down they go the more primordial the fauna becomes. Perhaps an enhanced version of something in a Petri dish. Yada yada pseudo intellectual shit. That’s my dissertation TLDR: the pit makes you evolve

[@Cugaed]

When Magikaja possesses Faputas body he states his body is slowly being consumed, but in having the chance to possess a vessel as precious as Faputa makes him happy in his final moments.

[@sailorsloth8183]

Never ask a woman about her age, a man about his salary, or a Made In Abyss fan about “Onahole Orphanage”.

[@theshadowking3198]

Yep amen

[@fancymclad1187]

A B O U T W H A T ?

[@ThatPlayerThere]

Do NOT make this man watch berserk 😭🙏

[@arkbien9303]

At least the Eclipse involved unwilling ADULTS. The world of Berserk is awful and s e x often ends in misery and horror, but it mostly focuses on adults (the anime skips anything to do with the apostle Rosine anyways)

[@snakeswithhats1913]

From what berserk fans say, it’s trauma exploration, not a fetish 🙏

[@SomethingDiabolical-lw5nx]

@@arkbien9303 Uhhh shut the fuck up... What happened to guts when he was a kid?

[@arkbien9303]

@@snakeswithhats1913 it is. It has lasting effects on the victims. Guts, Casca, even freaking GRIFFITH all has some form of s e x u a l trauma and it carries throughout the whole story. It's woven into the plot.

[@vistanoive1235]

Im so glade I got recommended this video and enjoyed watching your video, you definitely deserve more subscribers!

[@VocalMabiMaple]

24:00 idk how it was presented in the anime, but in the manga, this gives Nanachi a different sense of closure as she had a lot of lingering regrets she wanted to tell her friend. At least that's what I remember, I haven't reread the series in a few months. The chapters come out so infrequently that one piece is gonna end before this series will.

[@ozen188]

17:09 Yep, I felt that

[@YourMiddleBroPhil]

"Made in Abyss" the best anime you cant reccomend.

[@notthis9586]

The Star compass being a cradle of greed is a neat theory I haven't heard before. Is it based on anything specific? I read the manga and watched the show and didn't make a connection beyond that they're both artifacts.

[@seagullman87]

It makes me sad that a lot of mangaka have trouble avoiding the "author's poorly disguised fetish" trope within their work. Like, if the author wants to explore themes of child ab*se, there are better ways to execute such a story then relying on H-manga fetish tropes.

[@d4s0n282]

@banquetoftheleviathan1404 how is it causing harm to others

[@Edgykiddo]

​@@d4s0n282loli/shotacon is used to groom children's search for it

[@gensationaldraws]

Never watched made in abyss. Not going to 😭 god. This shit is wild Amazing video.

[@gamingtoday3708]

You should.

[@Raiethstar]

Just don’t read the manga, and accept the world is terrible and there are terrible people in it. I don’t justify it. I let the horrible stuff stay horrible in my head. Makes the watch much easier.

[@xxfree-forevloverxx9325]

​@@Raiethstar Some ppl just don't like to watch pdf file fetishes, it doesn't make you thought to watch gross sheet

[@d4s0n282]

@@xxfree-forevloverxx9325 that does not mean you can not enjoy it and see value from it just cus of it

[@fluqueen3926]

I love ur collectors edition of NGE on ur shelf, got it myself a few weeks ago🥹

[@retrohanska4441]

Some of the best art in the industry, perhaps the best world building in any lovecraftian story, period. Only horror story that has straight up given me a anxiety attack. Truly unique and out of this world creature designs. Interesting mystery in the whole 2000 year cycle that imo rivals Void Century from One Piece. Anime has one of the best soundtracks I know. Shame I can never recommend any of that to anyone due to all the fetish shit. I wish the mangaka took a second penname and made NSFW art of his characters instead of tainting his magnum opus with his obsessions. In that way he could both be less restrained with his art, something he clearly wants and I wouln't have to overlook more loli and shota softcore porn than I have to overlook racism in Lovecraft story-

[@ORGANaryGrl]

20:37 wait this actually a banger backstory tho omg

[@ItsYaBoiV]

It's crazy to me that it took so long to just cover this part of the manga. I feel like I read these chapters so long ago. I worry that we're gonna get a Berserk situation where the mangaka dies before the series is ever finished. This series also suffers from something that a lot of manga/anime in a similar genre goes through: don't get attached to anybody because they're probably gonna die. If it's not the main trio, any new character is either evil or expendable. 😂

[@Zakading]

This whole arc felt like One Piece's Dressrosa, where a few days pass in the story but the actual manga/anime takes literal years to drudge through it.

[@couththememer]

Personally, Made in Abyss is weird but I still watch it and I have no idea why

[@mrtiredeyes]

I was so mad, season 2 was so awful. I felt like i had been lulled into liking it just to be pulled into perversions like kids pissing and stuff that's just overall horny. Season two was boring, spent in the same spot with no progress, and had gross ass characters. Why do we need sexual themes with children?? They can be terrifying without it and the focus was not there

[@mrtiredeyes]

Side note, this is how I realized most anime fans are comfortable not finishing series they enjoy. Maybe it's because they're used to stuff getting canceled, or maybe they know later seasons can ruin the entire series.... Either way, this is a good example of why you should sometimes just pretend there weren't more episodes 😅😂

[@KittyanimatesX]

there are ways to show the horror aspect of children being taken advantage of, but it is NOT this. THIS is not fighting the battle that is pdf files, this is fueling their side. Was genuinely interested in watching this show until I heard it apparently normalizes such gross things :/

[@d4s0n282]

imo I really enjoyed s2, while i myself dont like the pedo shit, I still really enjoyed the s2 of this amazing show

[@d4s0n282]

@@KittyanimatesX honestly i also donnt like it, but legit I honestly feel its lowkey part of the appeal, feeling disgusted and still pressing on, fair enough if you don't wanna watch it, but id still recommend giving it a shot if interested

[@dizzyheads]

god you just reminded me why I miss old disney music with that Hercules bit

[@Lanky41]

*Reg*"WITNESS ME!" had to lol

[@MegaJackolope]

Those animators are in the pit for real right now.

[@2kadrenojunkie]

4:10 i watched all of s2 and didn't realise it wasn't s1 until i actually went to look for s2. it definitely did a lot of catching up lol.

[@HoryBP1]

The concept of Value is a strange thing that annoys me, especialy since a lot of theorists stick to it in their speculations for the further story eventhough it was really imbued only into the Iruburu plot. I am also really curious how the outcome will influence the Abyss and Orth delvers overall. The Capital was a very important POI, a friendly stop and it was there for centuries. Manga could iterate on such subjects a bit more outside of what we are getting till now. Also, a great video. Glad other people enjoy suffering too! 😊

[@metitfour131]

The mangaka that draws MiA draws kid stuff all the time. In worse positions, styles. He has an art book chock full of it, and this is exactly why, despite absolutely loving the premise, that I will never consume even a single page of his works. I thought his art book was bullcrap, but when I looked at it, I wondered why he hasn't been thrown into jail yet.

[@d4s0n282]

prob cus its not real?

[@fancymclad1187]

​@@d4s0n282 regardless, he is still a pedo. some definitions Lolicon: a genre of manga and anime that depicts young or childlike characters in a sexualized manner (this is what he does) Pedophilia: sexual feelings directed to or arousal derived from a child. Enjoying lolicon, the sexualized display of children, is categorically pedophilia. There is no distinction. No reliable dictionary I can find has any mention of any exception for fictional characters.

[@d4s0n282]

@@fancymclad1187 ok and? I see no issue as long as he directs it into his art form, while I don't agree with it and is kinda disgusting, there is legit nothing wrong since its not real life, in fact its honestly even better to direct it towards his form cus it it allows him to not need to deal with prob being arresting irl

[@metitfour131]

@@d4s0n282 It's enabling something that is morally deplorable and should not be encourage, or even exist.

[@d4s0n282]

@metitfour131 its not encouraging it, just cus there is tons of killing in video games or shows does not make them encourage killing lmao

[@asinussum]

Great vid. here's a comment for the algorhythm.

[@BeefyPhill]

Omg the Hercules side by side was WILD! I can never hear that music the same again 😂😂😂

[@Bekstorm-Weathers]

I quit reading and watching because of his interviews

[@denofpigs2575]

You won't be missed.

[@ThatPlayerThere]

⁠@@denofpigs2575shut the fuck up. @Bekstorm-Weathers you’re missing out on an amazing show.

[@oscarlove4394]

in case you're wondering who pakoyan is, she's a side character from the gang weed group and vueko's lover. she gets barely any screentime and i dont blame anyone for missing it. idk if vog missed that or just skipped it for brevity.

[@Tetradepodmelontea]

Its the kind of story that hurts normal healthy people and comforts and heals people who actually gone through horrible things in childhood. Whatever bad things happened with you, life is life. Its bizarre by nature.

[@AroundTheBlockAgain]

Yeah, "disturb the comfortable and comfort the disturbed", and all that... Personally, Mitty's nightmare fuel suffering in the elevator was what motivated me to get treatment, instead of living like I would constantly be begging to die. This messed up story means a lot to me.

[@imhere1303]

What about neither?

[@AroundTheBlockAgain]

@imhere1303 I mean no one balm will heal all wounds, and no one story will help everyone who's hurting. It's ok if it's not helpful for you.

[@imhere1303]

@@AroundTheBlockAgain I mean that it's either hurtful nor comforting. Just a fun story outside of the susness.

[@d4s0n282]

@@AroundTheBlockAgain hopefully your doing better these days, no one in real life should have to go though shit like that

[@kiwidoh]

Thank you for this amazing summary of the second season, I couldn’t get myself to watch it after feeling so gutted by the first season. It’s definitely one of, if not the most gruesomely sad and messed up stories I’ve seen, but it’s like a car crash that I can’t look away from out of curiosity. Not even including the fetish stuff, its gore alone made me feel sick. Thank you for watching it for people like me that can’t handle that stuff.

[@co7769]

What the heck was that first point? "Omg so dark its barely episode 1" Yea the first episode of the SECOND season. How can you say the first season slowly introduced you and then expect season 2 to do it all over again? That's just dumb. They already prepared you during season 1 like you said. Also even if you were to say "oh what about new viewers?" Let me say what kind of psychopaths start a show with season 2? Already to an awful start. The upsetting thing is you expecting something from the show that they already did! Another also, what freaking sense does it make to talk about a show (we all watched and liked enough to watch two seasons and maybe read the manga) and one of the first things you say is "i personally dont want to show you" huh?

[@nuggyfresh6430]

It may be a re upload but I adore this video good work

[@Gamydrop]

I remember when this aired I watched S2 before S1 or any movie, super confusing.

[@nogetouttamyface]

Why the hell would you watch it out of order, tf you mean of course it didn't make any sense

[@johneyisntcool]

You are an idiot if you expected to be anything other than confused

[@RueCrow-wi6oy]

@@nogetouttamyfaceI watched s2 first, but it was an accident and I had no idea