Not too Weak but Too Slow! || Caruana vs Gukesh || Norway Chess 2023

[@SantoshkumarPandeySKCP]

There was a point in the game where Gukesh had 5 secs against Fabi's 1 min 5 secs. And Fabi had a dominating position. From there to getting Fabi to flag is insane time management by Gukesh!!!

[@MrOpen2012]

Time management is completely opposite of what you described buddy.

[@Cecil_Augus]

If Agad did put the time stamps of each player after each move, wow, it would change so much the way we perceive the games shown. Even if there's no automatic way of doing it, you can just hire someone to do it and the person wouldn't take more than 30 minutes

[@Cecil_Augus]

Better, you could hire a coder to do a little program and it would be a permanent solution. Just extracting it (time stamps) from the database based on date or player's name.

[@sibusisoharvey2652]

Absolutely agreed! Besides Fabiano must have had time odds because it's Ammagedddon right? what were the original time odds?

[@awriter1214]

This was an amazing game. The way Gukesh coldly finds the surviving moves is just incredible. Gukesh really deserves more

[@sajalpratapsingh2057]

For those who don't know: The title is a refrence to Magnus's quote "Too weak too slow." to his opponent.

[@okokokok1457]

who was magnus referring to ?

[@Kyorenh95]

Casual blitz game against MVL

[@pratikparmar8709]

​@@Kyorenh95 it wasn't mvl. He was playing with his friend

[@hubhub5686]

Vs GM Laurent Fressinet (had 2700 Elo)

[@Kyorenh95]

@@pratikparmar8709 indeed, I was certain it was MVL, and I was wrong

[@Enigma427]

I just found the clip where fabi had 12 seconds and gukesh had 3 seconds... Then after some 10-15 moves fabi lost on time..... First of all i thought that was just clickbait video but.. Gukesh really managed 3 seconds very well against fabi.. Its really impressive stuff

[@SantoshkumarPandeySKCP]

It was even more lopsided. I saw Live that Gukesh has 5 secs while Fabi had like 1 min + a few secs.

[@TheMarksT]

Time pressure is a killer! Good try by Fabi vs a very strong opponent of course here, but on a good day, too! Good battle!

[@miyamoto900]

Fabi was 1 min when GUKESH was on 5 seconds ... So crazy good attempt by GUKESH

[@siddhantmohan2824]

Do show Gukesh v Anish Giri Armageddon game from round 6 of Norway Chess. A beautiful attacking game by Gukesh, outplaying Anish on both sides of the board. #suggestion

[@johnnydoe3603]

Apparently that 1 Second Increment was too much for Gukesh. 😂

[@brandonmiles8174]

Gukesh has been really solid in Armageddon from what I've seen of this tournament. Really impressive young man getting into stride playing with the absolute best veteran chess players in the world.

[@reynoldzy8]

It's hard to Beleive how could someone lose On Time with White Pieces in Armageddon and that too A Human Calculating Machine like Fabiano ! Brilliant stuff from Gukki 👍

[@qazzaqstan]

Yeah though, it is harder to believe that Gukesh was able to make something like 20 moves on a 1 second increment. He had 8 seconds on his clock from like move 50 with Fabi using 2-3 seconds per move Gukesh used 3 seconds total. It wasn't even that Fabi managed his time poorly it was that Gukesh was basically inhumanly fast.

[@XYZ-uo3px]

Gukesh vs Anish Armeggedon could be the best armeggedon match in this tourney.

[@JTST1234]

Yea wonder why Agad aint showing it

[@introvertedbot]

When fabi's time got close to 10 seconds I was like Gukesh's chances are high here, and then gukesh finds a perpetual

[@tarrasbulba4408]

Gukesh has been playing very very well this tournament, he was just often unlucky.. almost destroyed Magnus with Queen sacrifice

[@benjaminkolbeck]

,

[@feliscorax]

@@tarrasbulba4408 So, what you’re really telling us is Gukesh didn’t actually “destroy” Magnus. Close is still second-best.

[@ahmermehmood1177]

Gukesh didn't find perpetual

[@LukeLongboneOfficial]

Two excellent players. Can’t believe Gukesh is so young!

[@TalsBadKidney]

most instructive endgame in a while on this channel

[@Nikhil_Dhand]

Thank You so much, I have watched most your videos over the years. I request to kindly make a video on Openings. How many type are there and if there is any interestings tories behind there discovery. Thanks again

[@milliniumscopetube6414]

#suggestion Vladimir Simagin vs Leonid Stein (USSR Championship 1961a Tournament) A Crazy Imaginative Game!!! Plz also say something about Wilhelm Steinitz saga.

[@FloydMaxwell]

Congratulations Gukesh !

[@shan_2933]

The era of new agadmator thumbnail has began

[@primeobjective5469]

Losing on time in a winning position, is the equivalent of smashing your finger when closing your car door. "F--k!", is the immediate reaction.

[@neorj5958]

Thank you for your video!

[@Cecil_Augus]

If Agad did put the time stamps of each player after each move, wow, it would change so much the way we perceive the games shown. Even if there's no automatic way of doing it, you can just hire someone to do it and the person wouldn't take more than 30 minutes.

[@GrzegorzOklinski]

Question here: how does ELO respects armageddon games? Is blacks draw considered as classical win or not?

[@cmwontner]

Illegal moves can be made as long as they are not spotted so best to cover all eventualities in the record

[@jatashankar6357]

#suggestion Gukesh vs Anish gir armageddon Norway Chess 2023

[@kylemarshall5930]

Why is every other game the Berlin defense? Sum1 plz explain? Are there no better ways to get an even game

[@walmartgolem]

Great video title.

[@Beerfish777]

I get frustrated watching players get into time trouble so often, the eltie and some chess streamers. They look for the perfect moves in mid game and then have to play a half dozen sub optimal moves in the end game due to time.

[@RajatSingh-gk8jy]

People here in comment section didn't know that gukesh recently won an Armageddon tournament

[@mbarrett99]

This is why blitz is junk chess.

[@CikguA]

Wow. The Tamilian Dragon Slayer

[@michaelmassaro4375]

Tight game at the end the pawn endgame seems to be one of my weaknesses it’s something I need to study the concepts of Gukesh continuing to Impress he’s able to beat all the top players any given game at 17 yrs old quite the accomplishment Thanks Agadmator Game Enjoyed your Breakdown of the Game Exceptional as always Enjoy your Day and Chess as well 😊♟️💯

[@goldenfiremonkey96]

That game was blood boiling intense.😅

[@FerdinandFake]

Why not play D4?

[@MomoZeAsticot]

Hello, how is it decided who gets white and who gets black on Armaggeddon?

[@majdaburas6804]

Please show the game between wesley so and Abdusattarov

[@agadmator]

sure

[@cloudtheavegner1000]

B4 wasn't the winning square. Agadmator: Impossible.

[@Biskawow]

They should have give 2 sec increment

[@tux1968]

One second increment is silly. Should be 5 seconds at a minimum.

[@hasancoool]

tough game

[@rickharold7884]

Bummer. Tough clock

[@McNaireXstream]

I saw this is bullet and though of Hilary and Shak 😂

[@johnmallette3143]

gg

[@juliatruchsess1019]

Armageddon with draw odds is a terrible idea that ruins chess. They should play rapid or blitz until there's a winner.

[@dathoang2692]

yes, i saw that idea before u say it.

[@michaelmassaro4375]

Push a pawn to h6

[@nicbentulan]

You know Gasai if all classical chess games were classical armageddon w/ auction (120min white vs black bid) there wouldn't be any draws, you can play odd number of games, and it's always fair regardless of colour. Here, you can indeed play single round robins. Anyway Agad, what's your opinion of FIDE's use of the terms 'slow rapid' & 'fast rapid' please? This has implications for Wesley So. #suggestion Afaik: (0,10) is blitz. [10,60) is rapid. [60,120) is unrated classical. [120,infinity) is rated classical. So what's 'slow rapid'? Try to check out the maths here - they said both 32.5min & 60min are 'slow rapid'. Does this strike you as odd? I see only 2 possible definitions for slow & fast rapid. Def 1 - slow rapid means unrated classical [60,120) and fast rapid is rapid [10,60). --> this means Wesley So is not classical WFRCC but slow rapid WFRCC while Hikaru is (fast) rapid WFRCC. Def 2 - slow rapid & fast rapid cut up rapid [10,60) into resp [35,60) and [10,35). --> 2 issues here. 60min is not in either of these. Also, 32.5 is in [10,35). So neither 60 nor 32.5 are slow rapid. Lol. Wesley So is again classical WFRCC while Hikaru is fast rapid WFRCC. Def3 --> Since 15+2=17 is fast rapid, [10,X) is fast rapid & [X,120) is slow rapid for some 17 < X < 32.5. like say X is some arbitrary number like X=20 or X=30. Lol yeah right!! Some Iranians say Alireza (and Mohammadreza?) Firouzja is a traitor to Iran. (Source: xbw4kx ) I have no idea if that's true (anyone have ideas?), but: Bobby Fischer would agree with me. What do Daniil & Hikaru have in common? Both betray their country for Magnus. Hikaru Nakamura is almost as evil as the Hikaru in Oshi no Ko. Magnus Carlsen is almost as evil as Light Yagami. T0 - Now, Daniil & Hikaru are traitors for Magnus but not Norway, which was never the villain. Magnus is the villain (but not a supervillain like Hans Niemann. cf Megamind). T1 - Hikaru Nakamura is a traitor to the US for BASELESSLY siding with Magnus Carlsen over fellow American Hans Niemann. There's an episode of American Dragon Jake Long where Jake is accidentally sold by h friends. Here, Hans is intentionally sold by h compatriot. (Hans is Jake. Rotwood is Magnus.) American Dragon Jake Long Meet American Traitor Hikaru Nakamura. They're both Americans of East Asian descent. Lol. T2 - Daniil Dubov is a traitor to Jews & Russians for siding with Magnus over fellow Jewish Russians Ian Nepomniachtchi & Sergey Karjakin in the 2021 WCC. T3 - Will you be surprised if Daniil & Hikaru change federations to Norway? T4 - Garry Kasparov cheated fellow Jew Judit Polgar in the 1994 Linares. This makes Garry T4.1 - a traitor to Jews since Judit is Jewish T4.2 - necessarily not GOAT / MTOAT because you can't be valedictorian if you cheated T4.3 - a mentor of Magnus Carlsen who similarly cheated Alireza Firouzja, Daniel Danya Naroditsky & Ian Nepo Nepomniachtchi. SAYNOTO2900 GOD BLESS AMERICA. T5 - Also some Americans or Philippine people / Filipinos / Filipinas are traitors if they don't consider Wesley So the REAL world champion for the period 2019Nov - 2023Mar. (Kidding...sort of.) - T5.1 - Or worse, they consider Wesley So a traitor for moving to the US when Eugene Torre supports the decision which was practically forced due to the corruption of Philippine chess president Prospero Pichay Jr who was somehow re-elected in 2022 July despite being convicted of graft in 2022 June. Probably the same reason Arianne Caoili (Levon Aronian's dead spouse) left the Philippines for Australia. Try telling Levon that Arianne was a traitor. - T5.2 - Oh also 1 person did tell me e didn't like Wesley So because of what Wesley So said to h bio mom Leny So. Leny So & Prospero Pichay are HUGE traitors to Philippine chess. F()K LENY SO. F()K PICHAY. Also Leny So said to Wesley So 'putang ina mo.' Wesley So's response: 'Kinda funny that.' LOL. - T5.3 - Which is the greater number? A - Filipinos / Filipinas who became interested in chess/960 soon after Wesley So won 2019 WFRCC? B - Japanese who became interested in chess/960 soon after Hikaru Nakamura, who NEVER WON A CHESS960 GAME IN 45+15=60 MINUTES, won 2022 WFRCC? Last I checked 1 > 0 Source: 0J3K-3_xCzY . . . . . P.S. Please help get Wesley So on Lex Fridman's podcast. See xcdhgq

[@patpowers9210]

The one second move after 40 makes for bullshit victories. Which this was.

[@ks_movies]

Naah it makes for epic quotes, such as "Too weak, Too slow"

[@namikazeswapnil671]

Lightning kid 2.0? Maybe

[@seinundzeiten]

Fabi plays classical well, but blitz is Hikaru and Carlsen's area of expertise

[@AbhishekSharma-zc2oe]

Because of weakness, he is slow

[@Phoenix_of_the]

today agadmator called me an endgame master.

[@nicbentulan]

2nd: magnus cheats anish in round 7 superbet blitz --> 3:22:36 in 8gw7XDq87C4 #suggestion 2016 WCC - This is relevant to the 2023 WCC. Please agad cover the other decisive game of the Sergey Karjakin vs Magnus Carlsen 2016 WCC #suggestion What happened is that Magnus lost to Sergey AS WHITE in Game 8 but then compensated for a white loss with A WHITE WIN in Game 10. This is what happened to Liren Ding & Nepo for Games 2 & 4 of 2023 WCC. Why doesn't a drawn match go to the player w/ more black wins (if any) s.t. Sergey Karjakin not Magnus Carlsen is 2016 WCC & Ian Nepomniachtchi not Liren Ding is 2023 WCC? This has happened BEFORE! 1 2022 Accentus Chess960 Vincent Keymer and Nodirbek Abdusattorov both finished with 5.0/7 and tied first. However, as Keymer won more games with Black, he won the tournament on tiebreak. 2 1980 - 1981 candidates tournament 'When the quarterfinal between Portisch and Spassky was tied after 14 games, Portisch was declared the winner because he had won more games with Black.' Actually maybe cover the only 2 decisive games here if not already? #suggestion 3 1983-1984 candidates tournament It wasn't repeated! The premise was the same! Hübner had more black wins than Smyslov before tiebreaks. After tiebreaks were tied, a ROULETTE determined Symslov won!! Actually maybe cover the only 2 decisive games here if not already? #suggestion --- Other suggestions in women's chess A - Was Kg6 in Dina's 1st GM slaying game in Reykjavik sexism? Like looking down on Dina? B - Anna Cramling's dad beats Mikhail Tal. #suggestion C - Philippine women's chess #suggestion - WGM Janelle Frayna, the female Wesley So, upset Georgian GM (really GM not just WGM) Bela Khotenashvili at the 2022 world blitz. There's a 13-move UNDERPROMOTION puzzle here. [Variant "From Position"] [FEN "6k1/6b1/1p1P3p/6pP/3pPpP1/p2NqP2/6K1/5Q2"] 1. Qd1 a2 2. Qb3+ Kf8 3. d7 Qe2+ 4. Nf2 Ke7 5. Qd5 Kd8 6. Qe6 Bf6 7. Qe8+ Kc7 8. Qc8+ Kd6 9. e5+ Qxe5 10. d8=R+ Bxd8 11. Qxd8+ Kc6 12. Qa8+ Kb5 13. Qxa2 For some reason none of the Philippine channels except Kelvinllovejr even cover this game. LOL. But Janelle did cover the game where e drew against Nemo, so maybe Janelle will cover this game later on. P.S. Please help get Wesley So on Lex Fridman's podcast. See xcdhgq

[@paulharris2331]

Get off whatever drugs you're on and touch some grass kid

[@oldieSplit]

placement rules (criteria) are made before the start of the tournament or match and may vary

[@thedumbestmedicoever4141]

😂 Do you really spam in all the videos of Agadmotor , Gothamchess ,and Chessbase India? ( may be even more......)

[@nicbentulan]

​@@thedumbestmedicoever4141 Good question. Yes and this is why: Bobby Fischer would agree with everything here. Dr Seuss: 'Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. It's not.' NNT: 'A single person with courage can bring down a collective composed of wimps.' I'm a dual citizen of Hong Kong & the Philippines, love 9LX and hate chess. Thus you can imagine how much I have bias for the US, Wesley So, Bobby Fischer & Hans Niemann and bias against FIDE, Magnus Carlsen, Garry Kasparov & Hikaru Nakamura right? SAYNOTO2900 GOD BLESS AMERICA. You know Gasai how chess became more popular in the US, India & Norway because of when resp Bobby Fischer, Vishy & Magnus became WCC's? It's like that for me when Wesley So became WFRCC. Imagine how I feel that people are praising Magnus, Garry & Hikaru over Wesley So, Bobby Fischer & Hans Niemann when Magnus & Garry are cheaters and when Magnus & Hikaru are fake world champions and baseless accusers. The people are not wrong. I am educating them. The ones who are wrong are FIDE, Garry, Magnus & Hikaru. It's like how Sergey Karjakin is Crimean and pro-Putin. Is that a coincidence? (Look up 'ugmopp'.) Or, would you be surprised if a Japanese person were a 'weeb'? But it's not largely about nationality. 1 - Wesley So isn't even Philippine anymore. 2 - I don't even speak Philippine. 3 - I don't say Bong Villamayor, Daniel Quizon or Janelle Frayna are better or more talented than Magnus. 4 - If it were Nepo instead of Wesley So, then I'd say Nepo rules, and Magnus sucks (w/c is true since Nepo beat Magnus in classical & rapid 9LX). I guess I wouldn't be so obsessed w/ Nepo though. Lol. 5 - The facts that Wesley So 5A - is American, like Bobby Fischer 5B - is, like Bobby, friends with both Eugene Torre & Lotis Key 5C - like Bobby and me, loves 9LX & hates chess. 5D - like me, looks up, to Bobby as GOAT / MTOAT further fuel my bias. (FYI : Hikaru Nakamura, a US traitor for siding with Magnus over Hans, doesn't satisfy any of 5B, 5C or 5D.) . . . . . P.S. Please help get Wesley So on Lex Fridman's podcast. See: xcdhgq xcdhgq xcdhgq xcdhgq

[@nicbentulan]

@@thedumbestmedicoever4141 2022 WFRCC: Magnus, Hikaru & FIDE cheated Wesley So, who should've been 2020, 2022 & 2024 candidates wildcard because Wesley So won in classical games (45+15=60) while Hikaru won in rapid games (25+5+2.5=32.5min). Source: p1w4Rr-1fL --- That's the summary. The ff is the long version. --- 2 questions Q1 Why isn't it unfair to Wesley So that FIDE lowered the WFRCC time controls from 60min in 2019 to 32.5min in 2022 ( w/o changing the name of course to 'rapid WFRCC'. if they change the name, then there's no problem ) considering the ff things? --- Thing1 In the 2019 WFRCC, Hikaru & Magnus did better in 15+2=17min games than 60min games. Wesley So did better in vice-versa. --- Thing2 Afaik - (0min,10min) = blitz - [10min,60min) = rapid - [60min,120min) = classical but unrated for 2200+ players. - [120min,infinity) = classical Hence, Wesley So should be the CLASSICAL WFRCC and then Hikaru is the rapid WFRCC. Wesley So beat Magnus 3x CLASSICAL games in a row HUMAN VS HUMAN, no computer prep! The last time this happened was Vishy Anand vs Alexei Shirov in 2000 FIDE classical WCC! (Not to be confused w/ 2000 PCA classical WCC where Garry cheated Alexei.) --- Thing3 Yet for some reason FIDE insists that both 32.5min & 60min are 'slow rapid' while 17min is 'fast rapid'. They didn't even define these terms. Check out the maths here: I see only 2 reasonable definitions for slow & fast rapid. -Def1 - Slow rapid means unrated classical [60,120) & fast rapid is rapid [10,60). This means: - There's no classical WFRCC. - Wesley So is slow rapid WFRCC. - Hikaru is fast rapid WFRCC. - Hence, Hikaru is NOT a successor of Wesley So. -Def2 - Fast rapid & slow rapid cut up rapid [10,60) into resp [10,35) and [35,60). 2 issues here: - 60min is not in either of these intervals. - Also, 32.5 is in [10,35). So neither 60 nor 32.5 are slow rapid. Lol. This means: - There's no slow rapid WFRCC. - Wesley So is classical WFRCC. - Hikaru is rapid WFRCC, specifically fast rapid WFRCC. - Hence, again, Hikaru is NOT a successor of Wesley So. - Def3 - The definitions must be: Since 15+2=17 is fast rapid, we must have - [10,X) fast rapid & - [X,120) slow rapid, for some 17 < X < 32.5. Like say X is some arbitrary number like X=20 or X=30. Lol yeah right!! --- Thing4 Conclusion: I believe the 2022 WFRCC was a conspiracy to get Hikaru / Magnus to win in parallel w/ the Hans Niemann situation. Think about this: - Magnus quits the 2022 Sinquefield Cup. 1 day later, Hans Niemann, an American rival of Magnus, is harmed in another tournament, the 2022 CGC in that Hans is removed! - Magnus quits the 2023 WCC. 1 month later, Wesley So, an American rival of Magnus, is harmed in another tournament, the 2022 WFRCC in that the time controls are reduced w/o changing the name! I hardly believe this is a coincidence. I bet Magnus even directed (or conspired w/) FIDE to remove (and hence cheat) Sergey (not American but still Jewish like Hans & Bobby) from the 2022 candidates. Sergey's replacement Liren even cited the ff as role models: Magnus, Garry & Veselin instead of Wesley, Bobby & Vlad ( as described in FlNsFKeq-iE ). Of course there's no conspiracy at all if FIDE just says 'Ok Wesley So is classical WFRCC & Hikaru is rapid WFRCC. Sorry for the confusion!' For chess: The ability to play chess is the sign of a gentleman. The ability to play chess well is the sign of a wasted life. For 9LX: The ability to play 9LX is the sign of a gentleman or a lady. The ability to play 9LX well is the sign that you're not Magnus Carlsen. LOL!!!! --- Q2 Consequently, why shouldn't Wesley So have been a wildcard in 2020, 2022 or 2024 candidates as the 2019 WFRCC winner considering -Fabi was a wildcard in the 2019 WFRCC quarter-finals as the 2018 WCC runner-up, not by FRC virtue -Hikaru & Magnus were 2019 WFRCC quarter & semi-finals wildcards, by FRC virtue for the 2018 unofficial WFRCC but lol the 2018 game itself was obviously for chess virtue ? Well I suppose there's that being good at chess means you'll be good at 9LX but not vice-versa (unless you're Magnus lol)... --- P.S. Wesley So on Lex Fridman xcdhgq P.P.S. Interview while imprisoned p1w4Rr-1Uk Pablo Mercado: So what is your advice to the Filipino chess players? Uncle Bobby Fischer: My advice is to give up chess and take up Fischer Random. - 2004Oct11, 15 years before nephew Wesley So became the inaugural WFRCC in CLASSICAL time controls.

[@SilverVayne]

Wtf Fabi

[@martinolsen868]

AlgorithmFood!

[@amarthadimas]

🎉😊

[@sravanreddygaddam4381]

Fabi no use

[@JohnTimothyVian]

That's gotta really suck, winning position and out of time...

[@rajahzia]

no one is finding Qg5.

[@rodstone1597]

Hello everyone

[@reynoldzy8]

Gukesh Haters left the comment sec. 😂

[@jagadishbapanapally344]

Why bro? What happened?

[@richardlobo88]

I don't think there are any.

[@reynoldzy8]

@@jagadishbapanapally344 coz he beat their Fabi Daddy in his Prime Form

[@Oussama-uo1gf]

@@reynoldzy8 Everyone knows Fabi is the weaker Bullet player, he just got flagged in a winning position

[@reynoldzy8]

​@@Oussama-uo1gf so acc. To You Gukesh won by Luck 🤣 cope harder boy Listen 12:03 this get ur doubts clear

[@reynoldzy8]

Fabi in his Prime form lost to a kid that too by getting extra 3 mins Advantage and that too "ON TIME" And that too with "WHITE PIECES" ! I can't imagine how Humiliated would he be

[@nephandi2316]

??? There is no humiliation in losing to Gukesh, even for Magnus

[@aabishegaabi6047]

Bro u good?

[@reynoldzy8]

@@nephandi2316 yeah u're right losing to a Future World Champion is no big of a deal

[@saurabhm1102]

@@reynoldzy8 what is wrong with you bro... let's not make chess community toxic..

[@reynoldzy8]

@@saurabhm1102 yesterday kids were shouting that Fabi would dismantle Gukesh and giving Hatred to him so I was waiting for the right moment to give them a reply Yeah and that's my reply

[@ami_gourav]

I love Gukki , yes I'm baised.

[@abdelkader964]

Fabi is strong just in classic

[@monstermagnet3150]

Which is the true chess

[@thechosenone1192]

which gives more ponts

[@parsafakhar]

this new thumbnail format is awful, don't put words in thumbnail

[@stefankamola8008]

first?