Notail says "double support opener is vulnerable for Spirit" [Draft phase game 4] with Ceb

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[@markovucetic6797]

was enjoying their commentary of the draft almost as much as the games themselves

[@sugonisatanas6456]

Im happy Ceb and Notail made it to the finals.

[@mechanicalhelios8321]

As analysts tho, wished it was at finals as players

[@antonin2478]

@@mechanicalhelios8321 old leaves needs to go for new leaves to grow.

[@andriabn]

@@antonin2478 sad but true,.. but ... SAD SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@jmr2548]

That NoTail hair swoosh intro is really something 😁

[@Ghanshaman]

Whoever does makeup and hair had a good time with Notail.

[@NirifaEducation]

Unfortunately OG lose to secret and team spirit Their draft predictions to LGD is epic

[@kaitokid9]

That's where his strength comes from. He just didn't do it enough, that's why they lost 😂

[@wahyuhadinoto478]

Og losse from old school draf from Team Spirit. And losse from secret because their draf not strong enough agains zai, yapzor and matum

[@WeNeedAPeaceWorld1]

OG may have lost but we gotta respect em cause they proved to win 2 ti. Everybody has their time to shine. We can see the experience came from them through this draft analysis.

[@cherub0nyx]

@@kaitokid9 og's drafting is just "hey want u wanna play?, Whatever it is im in it 300%" they not thinking at all. they got away with it in 2 tis.

[@antonin2478]

@@cherub0nyx not really in TI9 at least in finals there were reasons for certain heroes to play. u will know if u seen true sight

[@cheanpoblete7024]

Notail, Ceb and Big ana

[@invoker4960]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@dexterruedas9964]

I thought for a moment a shampoo company got Notail for an ad 😆

[@prometheus1961]

0:02 notail looks like a model in a shampoo commercial.

[@cherub0nyx]

10 yrs later still 5 people have 2 ti wins gaddamn!

[@jeffreyquizon509]

team spirit has a chance to make it more than 5 people if anything since theyre all young lol

[@naevan1]

@@jeffreyquizon509 it doesn't work like that

[@aldrinmercado3475]

@@jeffreyquizon509 i doubt it. Ts will be scrutinized, their weakness will be exposed. Best heroes will be banned. And nerfed.

[@adriancruz5418]

@@aldrinmercado3475 true. In this TI, many underestimated TS since Team Spirit is like a stepping stone for them at first. But in the next TI, teams will be more aware of TS and find the team's weaknesses.

[@pearluy1542]

@@aldrinmercado3475 This. Totally agree. I think part of the reason why OG was so strong in TI9 was because they were underestimated in both TIs. This time around all teams were prepared against them. I think it'll play out that way for Spirit too for next TI. Especially cause everybody is looking at Spirit's win as valid versus OG's win at TI8 as a fluke. That will be Spirit's disadvantage moving forward. Everybody's going to be keeping an eye on them.

[@user-if6qp1lw2b]

5 ti titles in this panel

[@silentgas]

Legends. I doubt any team can break their record as a back to back TI winners anytime soon.

[@cherub0nyx]

Unless TS creates another meta like what OG did in TI9

[@silentgas]

@@cherub0nyx Nah, i doubt it.

[@cherub0nyx]

@@silentgas why not? They obviously can right? So why doubt they can do another meta pick?

[@fitt4393]

lmao love the intro

[@Dirty.Delicate]

@4:43 xinq tasted the dirt from his skin.

[@urbangreensmy4947]

That helps them win game 4

[@honeyboiii]

lololol

[@waelepips3751]

Rolled up booger disguised as skin.

[@ZaddY102]

we need true sight soon xD

[@mihirsampat7624]

It feels it’s gonna be boring.

[@lawrencelys1955]

The key point for TS won champion is they work out a better strategy for the TI patch. Young player don’t think so much, they heck care and focus on games especially Their pos 1, 2, 3, 4 are extreme consistent. As oppose For OG, ceb performance dropped compare to West EU final, saksa lose focus. Ceb might have not recovered after the eyes surgery. Man, I just hope the sun flower boy notail can play aggro pos 5. Winter wvyer, rubick and disruptor, chen, dazzle, silencer and aba. Not DK, razor, and some funny hero. Ceb should’ve pick axe , Sk, bs, magnus. I think OG just being funny flute through this TI

[@yeapalex1679]

So anyway...we started supporting...

[@EntoSanto]

Notail looks like he got out of Horizon Dawn.

[@lunser9098]

So we ain’t talking about notails hair do?

[@AndikaKrisnat]

we setill waiting notail to spill his shampoo

[@lunser9098]

@@AndikaKrisnat 😂😂😂

[@kyorddd2799]

the real mvp on team spirit is mira and miphoska, and Silent is my favorite carry! VP.Silent Antimage

[@mrkang4080]

This is Dota, there is no MVP... no one player wins tournaments.

[@apostleofd119]

Everybody agree that Magnus play is the MVP in the final. Saying that will not negate any other players efforts. But to me and probably tons of people that was seeing the game, saying anybody else play more valuable than Colapse's magnus is cringe..

[@Ace101Mega]

Just don't give Magnus to collapse

[@haziq12ish]

And give him his mars? Literally another carry hero Or u want him to play his nightstalker? And get snowball in 20 minutes Oh maybe u want him to play his tide and almost impossible to kill and tanky

[@Ace101Mega]

@@haziq12ish At least its better then getting Horn Toss out of nowhere and Skewer back to his teammate. An RP that pierce through BKB makes it more a nuisance to handle.

[@marimo66666]

@@haziq12ish do you even know positioning in teamfights? do you know why pos 4 tiny was so popular back then?

[@Antido0]

@@haziq12ish tbh 3 of those heros (counting magnus) get countered by the same hero so if they try to counter for example a tide, they end up countering a mars and magnus too but the difference is that mars requires few items to be useful in midgame, same as tide magnus? he just press W on his carry and then stacks in that way he gets closer to his only potential item to make plays which is blink and then maybe he can have the luxury of getting a shard (olfc talking if hes having a bad game) NS is one of those heros where is a hit or miss, need to be precise with ur team coordination to make it work on the first night or the game becomes harder than expected from those 4 heros magnus is the best bet for collapse and ofc hes insanely good at it and so its the best ban so far (or steal pick)

[@waelepips3751]

Yes, give him his Mars instead for total destruction.

[@nicholaschan4257]

Lgd will come back stronger next year

[@edgaral]

LOL

[@dariomladenovski7047]

yea they've been coming stronger for the past 5 years now but they always choke at grand finals

[@icouldntthinkofagoodname7216]

@@dariomladenovski7047 I'm not trying to be toxic but you're right. LGD may get to grand finals but if you don't win your team an Aegis, you still lost

[@noisyintrovertzxc]

Before, I don't want LGD to win TI. But seeing them as scary team and putting so much hardwork but not winning TI, now I really want them to win TI.

[@skjor1989]

unfortunately they are already strong enough to win ti10, they just got outplayed when it matters the most.

[@winterwarden]

0:20 notails face is everyone's reaction to this stupid ass question

[@yubear420]

Some of these questions are just for the sake of having questions for the viewers who are not familiar with the game. You do know that the one who asked that question is also a TI winner, don't you?

[@nicholaschan4257]

He is a TI winner but not a good host it seems. He always has the backing of Slacks or Tsunami but now that he host alone it's a wreak

[@winterwarden]

@@yubear420 the wording is so dumb its just funny

[@dragonbane44]

Its an opener question.

[@edwinooi9166]

@@nicholaschan4257 There is a reason that he was a TI contender (winner) and not panelist, going against Slacks is a very big no no since he is not only Gaben's favourite child but also majority of DotA 2 community favourite personality, it is basically career suicide to go against Slacks and not landing the joke(whether you have it or not, Slacks is a clown and everyone is expecting a joke)

[@allanyang21]

TI9 ceb: if Tide TA was a thing, we would of known about it. Let them have it TI10 ceb: if Magnus winter wyvern was a thing, we would of known about it. Let them have it

[@jewii3824]

difference is, OG kept on smashing TA tide, so it's understandable that they are not worried about it. Magnus on the other hand, not only is it just 1 hero, Spirit has shown that they SMASH HARD with magnus. Furthermore, they straight up raped LGD in the first 2 games with Magnus and yet LGD continued to not ban it. That's just stubbornly stupid.

[@allanyang21]

@@jewii3824 game 1 was no Magnus. Game 2 spirit won with Magnus, game 3 spirit lose with Magnus. Game 4 lgd win with Magnus, game 5 spirit win with Magnus. So no, spirit didn’t pick Magnus all 5 games. Collapse is the initiator and he plays tide and Mars, Magnus is actually not spirit first choice of hero, but some reason lgd always choose to draft first and it gives spirit to counter pick

[@jewii3824]

@@allanyang21 my mistake. But my point is still that apart from game 4 where LGD's rubick played perfectly, Mag was unstoppable. Spirit recognized this and respected LGD and chose to ban rubick, tinker, undying. LGD KNEW mag was most likely going to spirit's first pick yet they ignored it.

[@allanyang21]

@@jewii3824 we just need to wait for TRUE SIGHT And see what was going on in the booth. For some reason lgd bans were targeting yatoro heroes

[@marimo66666]

@@jewii3824 sort of like anticipating/baiting TS to pick the magnus and try to counter with their tiny lycan combo which is a huge risk to take.. 20 mins timer is make or break for LGD while TS draft scales beyond that. i believe they went ahead with the tiny lycan combo because it worked well for them before but the lycan role is just awfully stupid

[@believeat5708]

This game spirit prioritized DOUBLE support coz they knew COLLAPSE hero pool will be BANNED LGD just outdrafted them BTW CEB+NOTAIL please kick SAKSA and find us a new JERAX COLAPPSE that guy is too fucking passive and quiet and a SHITTTT hero pool

[@watergames8037]

I think team spirit is highly coinflip team but highly rewarded to those plays, look at most of their games. They always blindly go highground, miposhka's intuition i think carried them to finals and bring home the aegis. That guy is always on the right spot and predicting where to start teamfights. Although they are highly mechanical- gifted players.

[@moon7silver952]

It's not blindly going high ground, it's recognising when they are strong enough to do it. They're in the right spot because of good game sense, and reading the map. Their vision play was outstanding too, which lets them position well too. It's not really just intuition, it's excellent understanding of DotA.

[@waelepips3751]

@@moon7silver952 good dota intuition for short.

[@ryanyongway]

that hair.........

[@nyxnyxnyxnyxnyx4401]

TS best players in Ti10 but pretty inconsistent with picking strats. Definitely need a better drafting captain (maybe throw Ceb in there idk)

[@YayaBunWa]

Kinda. 100% agree about inconsistency, but any move that’d disrupt the synergy and style of this team would be putting the cart before the horse, for sure. If they could get a talent to join their couch or boot camp then on drafting, I think that’d go a long ways perhaps.

[@yogaaditya2797]

I think every team except psglgd have inconsistent with draft strat

[@walldell210]

They're a young team. Lots of room to be even greater. Absolutely no need for changes. Draft knowledge comes with experience

[@dechubasco830]

Why pick a loser and throw away a winner?

[@hinatashoyo5746]

@@dechubasco830 That loser has more experience as a winner than the winner itself

[@HavingDinna]

Bro you gotta relax with the click bait, super shameless lmao. Never would have clicked this if the thumbnail showed Ceb and no tail discussing draft on stage instead of thinking it was Ti9. Will be disliking the following videos in clickbait is included XD

[@yokeenb2737]

OG losing because Johan's long hair, he should just cut them. Short hair in 2 TI's bring 2🏆🏆.