Lance Strolls Controversial Junior Career

[@OmbsTwitch]

One downside of having a billionaire father all your achievements will be tainted

[@NotApplicableJB]

I do feel bad for him. It’s so difficult to judge his actual ability

[@SirSneakerPimp]

@@NotApplicableJB No, it isn’t difficult at all. The majority of your information pointed directly to the fact that, Papa Strolls, money paved his success. And when it was more even he couldn’t beat a toddler on a tricycle. There have been many drivers that have come from wealthy families. Some have had mediocre careers and many have become world champion. Lance needs to retire so that Felipe Drugovich can get his career going. The team are sitting on an F2 campion so that the most absurd version of nepotism can be witnessed.

[@Conservator.]

Stroll is a relatively good pay-driver but he’s clearly not a good F1 driver.

[@borisgerritsen6820]

I don’t think he is consistent enough with his performance. He has the right mindset of an f1 driver, but a bit shy of what it means to be at “the pinnacle of motorsport”

[@_ariosto1519]

These two have given us another great season with Fernando, so never mind! 🎉😂❤

[@NotApplicableJB]

That’s true we have to thank them for Fernandos return to the podium

[@ronintje7647]

I just love how spoiled rich kids complain some other spoiled rich kid "only beat them" because his father was richer than their fathers. Just stop it, most of them are spoiled rich kids who only win because their daddy was willing to throw a lot of money at their career.

[@NotApplicableJB]

I see where you’re coming from but the level of rich that Lance is compared to the rest is insane

[@marcgallant5270]

If money was the only factor than Stroll would of won in 2015 (FYI he beat Russel in equal cars in 2015 as well). Russell's comments in F3 was a douchebag move and most of the hate on Stroll ORIGINATED from Russell's comments IMO, he certainly played a large part in it @@NotApplicableJB

[@quentinhirschfeld9382]

Stroll had preferential tremens wuthin Prema, in everything, set up, strategies, team orders,... So yes, there's being rich and being rich, even Max's dad had to find financial backing in order to keep his son going.

[@Captaintauri]

You were talking heavily about his junior Career, but not about his podiums in rookie season or Pole in f1 I think he can be decently quick but he lacks the consistency to achieve some results and also this year maybe let the preassure of Fernando get to him.

[@NotApplicableJB]

Yeah I only wanted to discuss his junior career as I think everyone knows what’s happened after that but many F1 fans don’t follow the junior categories too

[@Captaintauri]

@@NotApplicableJB I don’t think people remember his epic 2017 story tho

[@Captaintauri]

He’s not appreciated enough for this season in 2017

[@slowspecv69]

That year really paints the picture for Lance f1 career so far. He showed lots of pace in the wet, and had damn good performances that year, but his lows were pretty low, and that’s his kryptonite. First half of 2020 it seemed like Lance broke away from the inconsistency, and was performing within the cars limit week in and week out. After the mugello crash (which wasn’t his fault) on for a podium, it seemed to all fall away. Hope he can find that consistency again, because he’s obviously got it somewhere.

[@lewis8552]

​​@@Captaintauriit's because he was consistently around 5 to 8 tenths slower than Massa. Had a couple of decent rounds, one of which was a chaotic Baku race, that sure he done well to make no mistakes but also his teammate Massa could've won had he not had his car failure. Just overall wasn't too impressive with the machinery he had. However, I would say it was one of his better years so I will give him that.

[@jeffcanfixit]

Very fair assessment of Lance. Easily argued for either direction. I don't hate on the guy,,, he was born as a fortunate son. At least he isn't out in the world being distributive and lazy. I ALWAYS enjoy your work. 👍👍🏁

[@NotApplicableJB]

True, he can’t help being born into that kind of money. Thanks so much mate

[@mikeuuuytffvghjjoopoiytf]

Lance is never going to be world champion but he's definitely deserving of a spot on the grid. He's shown good pace and good race craft, he's even well liked by the drivers, especially his peers from junior categories which tells you alot about his character since they know him better than anyone.

[@jamesvoneschen6603]

Not “deserving” of a spot but very well good enough to be in F1. I’m really hoping he has a more consistent season next year no matter where the car might be. Always rooting for Lance, but it’s often disappointing.

[@quentinhirschfeld9382]

Most delusional comment i've ever read about Stroll, usually, Stroll's defenders are borderline ridiculous, but here, your truing to me articulate, which actually amkes everything worse! Stroll has good race-craft? The dude has literally no awareness, he created very dangerous situations because he has no idea how to use his mirror and how to control the space he can't see, as for pace, he got out-qualified massively by everyone of his teammates.

[@barryalangroves8759]

Unfortunately Lance doesn't deserve to be in FI ​@@jamesvoneschen6603

[@doktarstonks2796]

Imo lance stroll isn’t a terrible driver,it’s just that he came into this sport through a lot of money and for seven seasons he hasn’t been too impressive,I think that he should stay more consistent or should be replaced by other and much talented drivers.

[@barryalangroves8759]

Unfortunately you cannot buy talent daddy money can buy a team but you need the hungry to win also talent which Lance is lacking

[@Ballen_F1]

Broski is back from the dead! Wheres the streams at?

[@NotApplicableJB]

Had the classic pre Christmas illness so missed a few days. You should see how many times I sneezed in the video that I had to cut out 😅

[@PolishEddie92]

Dude, awesome video! Lots of stuff I didn't even know. Keep up the good work 👍

[@NotApplicableJB]

Thanks so much mate. Hope you’re having a good Christmas buildup

[@PolishEddie92]

@@NotApplicableJB sure am! I'm 3 months sober, lost 40 pounds in the last 2 months, killin it! Got family stopping by from Canada for christmas as well. All is good! Hope yours is great as well!

[@CozyRodent]

in F1 they still bring better upgrades and make the car to him, not a coincidence how this year everytime there was a conversation of him weighing down the team suddenly there was a drop in permormance and then he improved, wouldn't surpriseme if the car could be way better without him

[@mjguar2722]

I think Lance just struggles to find the limit on tracks and can’t adapt well causing accidents at some tracks and some great performances at others

[@slowspecv69]

My theory is he doesn’t suite these ground effect cars the same way as the wing cars of pre 2022. His 2020 campaign was his best performing year, with a bunch of standout drives, genuinely faster than checo multiple times that year. People like to say oh he was 50 points off checo, completely forgetting the high points paying positions Lance lost through no fault of his own (like the podium at mugello, or Russia). In a hypothetical scenario where even those 2 results went his way he’d be under 30 points behind checo who had the season of his life. Even 2021 sure in points seb was clear, but Lance was again genuinely faster then seb on multiple occasions that year, who’s a multi world champion. Since then it just hasn’t seemed to work for Lance. Don’t know what he can do to fix it, but I’m hoping he finds it.

[@NemXX2]

He is not total trash, but he is only on F1 cause of his father's money. He does not have the quality to be there.

[@_ericplace]

“…and the perfect way to determine whether it was the talent or the money is to compare him to…” [checks notes] “Fernando Alonso!” [furrows brow, tilts head slightly, looks toward the corner of the room where the walls and ceiling meet]

[@NotApplicableJB]

😂

[@LouisSubearth]

Racing is inherently expensive, so the aspect of having a good cash flow into your car and team will keep you competitive. However, Lance is far from untalented, this last season saw him shining through treacherous conditions, extreme rain, extreme heat, broken bones, pit lane starts, and he managed to get to the top 10 behind Oscar Piastri, which is not an easy feat.

[@quentinhirschfeld9382]

1) In which treacherous condition did Lance shine in 2023? He crashed in Monaco when the rain arrived, didn't made it to Q3 in Canada while Alonso qualified on the second row, only stayed in front of Alonso in Austria due to team orders, got stuck in Q2 in GB, was 1 second away from Alonso in Belgium. 2) Piastrio, a complete rookie, managed not only to score more points than him, but to nearly matched his teammate (Lando Norris, who's NOW arguably as good as an off-prime Alonso) in terms of pace and race results when he had the upgrades. 3) the Broken wrists excuse is getting old, he had his best performance of the season when his wrists were broken, so...

[@LouisSubearth]

@quentinhirschfeld9382 the later part of the 2023 season saw a lot of successful races for Lance. A lot of people forgot how Lance was fighting his own body to not faint and crash the car in Qatar, although he got a lot of track penalties for it, otherwise he would've been P9. Also, his performance in the USGP, crossed the line 7th but got bumped to 5th because of the Hamilton and Leclerc underbody disqualifications, 5th in the Las Vegas GP, podium Q3 and P5 in Brazil, while defending from Sainz like Alonso did the same to Checo, he has skills, although he's very hit or miss.

[@redluca56]

I got told by a karting team owner that Lawrence bought a truck specifically for Lance's karting equipment and when they finished the season, he just gave it away.

[@ItsMeRedd_]

I’ll be honest I really don’t like drivers who just pay their way to F1, but thats what you expect when we live in a world of corruption sometimes people do get away with things and mostly the ones with money and power.

[@GTjamie141]

4:00 neither Ocon or Verstappen took part in F4.

[@NotApplicableJB]

Technically true but they took part in the equivalent before it was rebranded

[@GTjamie141]

​@@NotApplicableJBto be fair saying f4 was probably easier than "Florida winter series in formula Abarth which got rebranded to f4" 😅

[@matthewjeffery6648]

the answer to the argument is: did he deserve his f1 place in the first place? no there were plenty others who deserved it more. has he proven himself as a goo driver in f1? yes by the likes of plenty results including a pole position against the likes of a dominant mercedes and beating his t8 perez who is now a redbulll driver.

[@quentinhirschfeld9382]

Pérez literaly destroyed him both in terms of qualifying results and points scoring positions. Especially in 2020, despite receiving the upgrades after, missing 2 races because of covid and having a mechanical dnf while running 3rd on merit in bahrain, he out-scored Lance by 50 points, if that doesn't convince you he doesn't deserve such a competitive seat, nothing will.

[@Shabec2982]

“It’s not a fair fight when Lance is involved.” That statement says it all.

[@ApexwithDavin]

Stroll got all of the tools that others wished they could, so people get jaded. He's good. Just not legendary.

[@NotApplicableJB]

He has definitely turned out as a very middle of the road driver

[@ApexwithDavin]

@@NotApplicableJB Middle of the road F1 driver, which is still good. Racing isn't easy.

[@eartharrow6772]

I'd say he is probably the 18th best diver on talent but still finished 10th as number 2 driver in 5th best car so doing okay

[@whac1c]

Just because your dad buys you the best things doesn't mean you'll win in it like Lance did. On the most even playing field of his junior career (rookie F3) he still outclassed Albon and Russell, even with how tumultuous that season was for him. He finished behind Charles Leclerc in the points, another rookie in F3 that season. Both Rosenqvist and Dennis had a plethora of experience before this season, so it's clear why he didn't beat those two. To me, I think Lance's talent is on par with Russell's when Lance is at 100%. If he isn't focused and mentally right, he's maybe one of the worst drivers on the grid. Basically, Stroll at 100% deserves to be in F1, but Stroll at his worst does not.

[@siloPIRATE]

Lance Stroll shouldn’t even be here (in F1). Remove his dad from the equation, would he have made it into the Ferrari young driver academy or to F1 when he did. Would he have stayed given his performance. Aston Martin likely would have replaced him a long time ago, but his dad owns the team so

[@TheZimbeatz]

The Lance conversation /argument as to whether he belongs in F1 is pointless and its literally a bunch of virgins sitting around thinking that their Fav driver deserves a seat. Lance is RICH.. His dad owns the team and he's going nowhere unless HE chooses to exit.

[@joshswain9288]

I definitely stroll has proved he deserves to be in f1 but definitely not at a top team he is a good midfield driver but this season proved he doesn’t belong at a team that wants to win championships

[@NotApplicableJB]

I think you’re right, he is definitely a solid midfielder at best

[@moncefecw3131]

Amazing vid

[@NotApplicableJB]

Thank you

[@JohnWickedd]

Does he deserve to be on the grid? I’d say yeah. As much as logan sargeant. Does he deserve a top drive like now with AMR? Nah you tripping

[@naga2015kk]

Lance did VERY WELL in Q 2024 Australia ! He can do it. Stop trying to malign him

[@quentinhirschfeld9382]

Jesus Christ...

[@RNA0ROGER]

I think you kinda need drives that are in Strolls level since you have drivers like Max and Fernando two alpha males butting heads can get rather dangerous.

[@barryalangroves8759]

Unfortunately Lance doesn't appear to be likeable when given interview never his fault he hasn't got the hungry feeling to win

[@artludens00]

Lance isn't worthy of being on the F1 grid. I would rather give the seat to Drugovich, Bearman, or Vesti myself

[@iZakfanyt]

To play tennis you need a racket? More like to play football you need a club and daddy will buy it

[@NAFUSO1]

I, personally, can't stand Stroll (daddy or son). But the criticism of him being where he is because of daddy's money is a bit disingenuous. Verstappen's and Sainz's dads were F1 drivers, so they could use their clout to benefit their kids. LeClerc's and Norris's dads were wealthy enough to give their kids everything they needed to be successful. F1 is quite incestuous.

[@ronintje7647]

Small detail, Sainz wasn't a F1 driver. But he was very succesfull in other categories. And yeah, both Carlos and Jos invested a LOT of money in their kids careers to, i remember Jos telling that if they needed something for Max' cart they would get it no matter the cost. They could afford it and both were and probably still are very competitive, so it was worth for them to get their kids as far ahead as they could.

[@NAFUSO1]

Sorry, yes you're right. I misspoke. What I meant, though, was he still had connections through his rally affiliations into F1 and money to help Jr. get into F1.

[@soundninja99]

Lance had the skills to get into F1, but have shown that it's time to go

[@Gleepglurp]

Stroll is better than Alonso, the team is just sabotaging his car so he doesnt get out of Q1

[@NotApplicableJB]

Uhh… please explain

[@eartharrow6772]

Amazing if true

[@LoongYawLee73]

Yup, apparently if they didn't sabotage his car, he'll win a race... or even a world championship /s But for real though, Stroll wasn't terrible, but he's quite down the order compared to the field

[@neilsmith8327]

Like him or hate him , most comments are just jealousy He has a super licence so he gain enough points to have one We all would love a rich dad who owned a F1 team He does come across a little bit smug But non of us personally know him Does he deserve a seat that's up to the team he drives for He's no more dangerous than a few others on the grid

[@Coen80]

No he doesn't deserve to be in F1. Yes he is probably the worst driver on the grid (especially when accounting for experience) No he would have never even made it through the junior series with out his dad paying the way for him. He's useless. The only good thing about Stroll is that, at least, he shows, that anyone, without any talent what so ever, can pay his way into the travelling circus.

[@Ian-k5p1s]

First person on the video lets go 👏👏👏👏

[@NotApplicableJB]

Love that!

[@parhamkanth5676]

Stroll>Tsunoda