A rant about Overwatch 2

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not Frogger

not Frogger

17 күн бұрын

Wanted to talk about my current feelings towards this CURRENT season of Overwatch, I did this in one take with barely any edits so not the best with these types of videos but I'll improve if people like listening to me talk. Peace and love!
Also didn't talk about ranked itself as I felt this video would be too long! Maybe I'll talk about that in a future video!
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@notFrogger
@notFrogger 15 күн бұрын
i did this in one take and forgot to talk about RANKED!! oh well next time.
@Booloon_
@Booloon_ 15 күн бұрын
KEEP RANTING, YOU COOKED
@Bubbagaming90000
@Bubbagaming90000 15 күн бұрын
35 minutes and didn't talk about ranked 😭
@jakesimprich9155
@jakesimprich9155 15 күн бұрын
​@Bubbagaming90000 you know the game is cooked when talking about problems and ranked isn't mentioned
@JustAnotherJeremy
@JustAnotherJeremy 15 күн бұрын
That's OK, everyone else forgot about ranked this season too.
@RobotKing07
@RobotKing07 15 күн бұрын
I haven’t played ranked at all this season because I’ve had a glitch the prevents me from ranking up or down so I’ve just seen no point in playing it.
@basiIiscos
@basiIiscos 15 күн бұрын
I get on low gravity queue to play queue deathmatch without being worried abt joining an actual game
@2am17
@2am17 15 күн бұрын
LMFAOOOOO
@roland8357
@roland8357 15 күн бұрын
Is that how people be having like 100kills
@dominicpirola8240
@dominicpirola8240 15 күн бұрын
​@@roland8357nah that's just any masters+ queue time
@joellugo3458
@joellugo3458 15 күн бұрын
​@@roland8357 Yeah a lot of arcade modes, me and my friends queued in the yeti and mei gamemode as winston and obviously we can't all be the big bad winston so the queue doesn't end
@reverently
@reverently 15 күн бұрын
I do this with mystery 1v1 (except I actually really like mystery 1v1 and no one ever plays it 💔)
@Kuro_GD
@Kuro_GD 15 күн бұрын
4:24 "evil lucio" lucio but instead of being brazilian he's just argentino
@omars1369
@omars1369 15 күн бұрын
Evil lucio is a maradona supporter instead of pele 😳
@pepekovallin
@pepekovallin 15 күн бұрын
NOOOO
@genesisosuna
@genesisosuna 15 күн бұрын
Instead of being a vinicius Jr fan he's a pedri stan and used to stan James Rodriguez
@Batnano
@Batnano 15 күн бұрын
said the banana lover. also 7-1
@Kuro_GD
@Kuro_GD 15 күн бұрын
@@Batnano oh no he referenced football!! and ALL Brazilians LOVE football! I'm so hurt right now!! 😭😭😭😭 stfu
@Umbra_Skull
@Umbra_Skull 15 күн бұрын
you know overwatch is getting rough when froggah has to rant about it
@verguco6051
@verguco6051 15 күн бұрын
every youtuber would want to rant about how bad is the game but they need to keep shilling for it to eat
@saswag2004
@saswag2004 15 күн бұрын
@@verguco6051 watched the new video from freedo on why 6v6 isnt the solution where he absoloutely contradicted himself and proceeded to just straight up lie. Bro said winston isnt countered by hog anymore.
@Stroppyness.
@Stroppyness. 15 күн бұрын
​@@saswag2004 or maybe you're just ignorant
@saswag2004
@saswag2004 15 күн бұрын
@@Stroppyness. he said the team has already improved the state of counter picking. Do you agree ?
@Stroppyness.
@Stroppyness. 15 күн бұрын
@@saswag2004 improved from when
@Tobyfoxfake-mv2pf
@Tobyfoxfake-mv2pf 15 күн бұрын
“Let’s heal the team” - evil Lucio
@beywheelzhater8930
@beywheelzhater8930 14 күн бұрын
“I love touching the ground” “I do NOT want to fight a widowmaker” “Tanks should have more knockback resistance.” “Maps with cliffs? No thanks. Environmental hazards are horrible.”
@astupidlylongnamethatstoolong
@astupidlylongnamethatstoolong 10 күн бұрын
​@@beywheelzhater8930OSHA regulator Lucio be like :
@beywheelzhater8930
@beywheelzhater8930 10 күн бұрын
@@astupidlylongnamethatstoolong Evil Lucio just works for OSHA, that’s the main change
@alphaluc1008
@alphaluc1008 9 күн бұрын
@@beywheelzhater8930 Vishkar = OSHA
@qurpylikescheese
@qurpylikescheese 15 күн бұрын
Game won't be good until torb can wall climb.
@Pekara121
@Pekara121 15 күн бұрын
Fucking what?
@jordyn.
@jordyn. 15 күн бұрын
@@Pekara121 he's right, why are you angry. torb also needs a bikini skin and then the game will go from good to truly something special
@mightbeellie4735
@mightbeellie4735 15 күн бұрын
@@Pekara121 old ow meme
@simplythebest8227
@simplythebest8227 15 күн бұрын
Sadly it won’t happen until torb becomes Japanese, apparently only Japanese people can wall climb according to ow
@okbruhlolsjwhw
@okbruhlolsjwhw 15 күн бұрын
Cooked so hard​@@jordyn.
@B_bang22
@B_bang22 15 күн бұрын
its geniunely insane that something shown in the trailer aka weapon inspects still isn't out yet ALMOST 2 YEARS INTO THE DAMN GAME
@sbuskauhis
@sbuskauhis 15 күн бұрын
another false promise? idk
@gamerbeast3616
@gamerbeast3616 15 күн бұрын
Cry about it
@Pes._
@Pes._ 15 күн бұрын
Maps, guilds, change of day mid comp match, so much man its not even worth listing. Just stop playing 😂
@yuri_8368
@yuri_8368 14 күн бұрын
If people stopped supporting the game and wasting money in enxpensive skins probably they will release all the features that we saw on the trailer
@branchy1186
@branchy1186 14 күн бұрын
​@@yuri_8368 nah they legit just can't or won't do any of it if they haven't at this point
@davisstern3699
@davisstern3699 15 күн бұрын
The va has given more personality and backstory of the character through streamer colabs than ow2
@nibbler7687
@nibbler7687 10 күн бұрын
yea i really hope they paid her overtime because she did more marketing for venture than the ow devs lmao
@dietcokemanicpixiedreamgirl
@dietcokemanicpixiedreamgirl 10 күн бұрын
i honestly just act like everything valeria says about themselves is venture lore
@bruheehhhh
@bruheehhhh 10 күн бұрын
They literally are venture, I wouldn't be surprised if Valerie is actually in Egypt taking artifacts
@CrowMaiden
@CrowMaiden 15 күн бұрын
I've seen maybe 2 Porche D.Vas the entire season. didn't even know Pharah had a Porche skin until I saw it in the bottom right of the main menu. (idk why they collab-ed with Porche. I feel like if fancy car people and Overwatch players were a ven diagram, they'd be two different circles on two different sheets of paper in two different buildings in two different countries.)
@Pekara121
@Pekara121 15 күн бұрын
I've seen a handful in QP.
@cruhmoment8410
@cruhmoment8410 15 күн бұрын
I see a ton here on console, casuals seem to like these types of skins maybe?
@soberstoners7610
@soberstoners7610 15 күн бұрын
I’ve seen like $500 worth of Eva Porsche skins lol. Granted people who got it were just probably picking DVA a lot more
@gg_potato75
@gg_potato75 15 күн бұрын
Wait Pharah has a porshe skin? 😭
@soberstoners7610
@soberstoners7610 15 күн бұрын
Although $500 worth of skins is literally 25 people tho when I think of it (if they got dva just buy itself).
@FatherOfGregg
@FatherOfGregg 14 күн бұрын
They should’ve given junkrat a Porsche skin where it looks like he stole a ton of parts from one of their cars
@ieatbugs45
@ieatbugs45 14 күн бұрын
LOL
@thwomp1542
@thwomp1542 10 күн бұрын
Holy shit that would be amazing
@_G.C
@_G.C 10 күн бұрын
They wouldn't want to portray their cars in any way that may look like it could tarnish the brand. The only time I've ever seen this not happen is where you can blow up a lamborghini in fortnite
@carneloot
@carneloot 15 күн бұрын
I am still so sad they cancelled the PvE. I remember talking to my girlfriend how this was going to be really fun, having the talents and new skill for heroes. And then one week later they announced on the livestream that they would cancel it. Haven't really played much since.
@beanjuice6012
@beanjuice6012 15 күн бұрын
Well, you have more common sense then most current ow2 players. They LIED to us keep slapping us with lies.
@tler6171
@tler6171 15 күн бұрын
good
@xythiera7255
@xythiera7255 15 күн бұрын
They canceled it becouse Free to play mercy skins are easy money . PVE need upfront investments to make money later . All that can be avoided by putting 1 inturn into the recolor section
@SprongBobbles
@SprongBobbles 14 күн бұрын
i’ll never get over the overwatch dev team feeling like it was okay to just drop that news nonchalantly in a livestream 🤣😭😭
@montismoments-jt3cq
@montismoments-jt3cq 14 күн бұрын
me personally i could never see it become a pve game, cmon is anyone playing this to kill bots? we all tried the pve events, how much advanced was it gonna get? no depth what so ever and they realized it too
@sutg845
@sutg845 15 күн бұрын
Random, but i just realized we haven't gotten a new cinematic since Kiriko's, which was over a year and a half ago. That Sojourn one that came out wasn't even "new". They previewed it back in like 2021. Pretty sure they had it in the vault for a while. What is up with that though? Overwatch needs things like that to help its public perception and yet it's like they can't bother with cinematics anymore.
@sbuskauhis
@sbuskauhis 15 күн бұрын
I wonder where their art direction is going?
@zepchir
@zepchir 15 күн бұрын
what about the one with mauga?
@ChampionOW
@ChampionOW 14 күн бұрын
Lifeweaver, mauga and illari all have origin stories wdym?
@ChampionOW
@ChampionOW 14 күн бұрын
And ramattra
@localcryptid666
@localcryptid666 14 күн бұрын
@@ChampionOW Those are the little origin story animations, not the high quality 3D cinematics OP is talking about.
@ProfessionalSoapEater
@ProfessionalSoapEater 15 күн бұрын
Venture's release was such a let down, there was so many ways they could have an origin story, venture could be trying to recover artifacts from talon and the junkers are there to steal it too. There is so much they could do for venture, but they didn't do anything at all with them, killing all hype surrounding the character nearly instantly
@Rennie-
@Rennie- 15 күн бұрын
Shes just boring
@CutePandaGirl123
@CutePandaGirl123 15 күн бұрын
​@@Rennie- Who?
@michaeld9806
@michaeld9806 15 күн бұрын
doesnt help they immediately nerfed her and made her feel like a wet noodle to play
@Pekara121
@Pekara121 15 күн бұрын
​@@michaeld9806didn't they change that again?
@Rennie-
@Rennie- 15 күн бұрын
@@CutePandaGirl123 Venture
@ITalk69
@ITalk69 15 күн бұрын
Venture's release was really deflated. No base legendary or epic skins? No real origin story? You know somethings wrong when the community has to make Venture more interesting then what Blizzard gave us.
@bui3415
@bui3415 14 күн бұрын
Good point. A lot of new heroes come with less.
@TraumaBeast
@TraumaBeast 14 күн бұрын
and yet there's still a venture in every single match almost. 9/10 matches has at least one to two ventures (assuming you're not in no limits where there's likely 3 or more)
@ieatbugs45
@ieatbugs45 14 күн бұрын
@@TraumaBeastI haven’t seen many ventures at all lately, it’s mostly just been cassidy and pharah or genji in quickplay for me
@RRRRRRRRR33
@RRRRRRRRR33 13 күн бұрын
@@TraumaBeast Because she is strong, pretty much broken (as usual with this abomination, there's no QA whatsoever). I doubt whales will waste money on Venture skins tbh, the character is fun to play, but she has zero charisma, doesn't look like a Overwatch character
@CereDulce37
@CereDulce37 13 күн бұрын
​@@RRRRRRRRR33 ....
@mimikyugigas8106
@mimikyugigas8106 15 күн бұрын
season 10 feels like it was supposed to be the egyptian theme and mirrorwatch was swapped in last minute
@ghastlyweather1750
@ghastlyweather1750 10 күн бұрын
That's an interesting take. Can I hear more about it? Do you have any examples?
@mimikyugigas8106
@mimikyugigas8106 10 күн бұрын
@@ghastlyweather1750 the biggest thing for me is Venture. their gameplay trailer had anubis in it, they're an archaeologist and the season is called Venture Forth and yet they are basically nowhere to be seen in the battle pass and still don't have an animated origin story. i think the season was originally supposed to be around egyptian archaeology but higher ups pushed the mirrorwatch theme (and mercy mythic out of the pattern) because they thought it would generate more buzz
@pwpqwq7648
@pwpqwq7648 5 күн бұрын
@@mimikyugigas8106 Venture will most likely get a skin during that battle pass, there is just no way they would leave her out of that theme
@ramenemu_4376
@ramenemu_4376 2 күн бұрын
@@mimikyugigas8106 Stop it, you're making too much sense...
@DuckSwagington
@DuckSwagington 14 күн бұрын
I'm coming at this from a tank players perspective: The biggest problem with the game right now is that you can't play what you want. You either pick the meta heroes or you lose, and that applies to everyone on the team, and if you have that one OTP on your team who refuses to switch, it's actually over and there's not much you can do about it, especially as a tank. There is very little outplaying someone on the worse hero, and even when you do, there is no sense of acomplishment because you get screamed at by your 4-10 Soldier for throwing by not picking Road/Orisa/Mauga/whatever unfun piece of shit tank that Blizzard wants to be meta this season.
@ieatbugs45
@ieatbugs45 14 күн бұрын
what if the character you want to play is regarded as a piece of shit tank by many others
@berthenson9946
@berthenson9946 11 күн бұрын
ow2 is now back on the same live service speed as ow1 was before it got shut down, but now with microtransactions. Lazy blizzard is back to being lazy blizzard with another failed game.
@ieatbugs45
@ieatbugs45 11 күн бұрын
@@berthenson9946 I mean microsoft kind of thanos snapped the whole overwatch dev team so yeah
@tMidnight_blue
@tMidnight_blue 11 күн бұрын
I agree completely, the countering has gotten way out of hand, but if were being honest its gonna be a while before this game becomes fun again. Blizzard execs basically admit that activation is just using blizzards past reputation to sell on nostalgia, its pretty sad. I wish the blizzard has passion like in the ild days but now its just corporate greed. The shop is an excellent example. I went a bit off topic but this all correlates nonetheless.
@acies9408
@acies9408 11 күн бұрын
yea tank is rough because of the teams expectations
@orangeglow57Official
@orangeglow57Official 15 күн бұрын
I don't think blizzard actually considers how to keep certain gamemode alive. They just see that it isn't immedietly successful and abandon it entirely.
@milita5298
@milita5298 15 күн бұрын
i think you brought up alot of good points man. weve got all these cool characters yet constantly its the same 5-6 characters being played because theyre meta. it definitely ruins the vibe of gameplay a lot and as a tank main, im so tired of having to constantly fight against a mauga or hog because people just want easy wins :(
@sbuskauhis
@sbuskauhis 15 күн бұрын
Sadly, they decided to go with an "fungineer" type of direction, or is it a misdirection?
@Zathren
@Zathren 14 күн бұрын
Every time my team or the enemy team swaps to Bastion my eyes roll so far up that they never come back down. Still fun wrecking Bastions as Sombra though haha
@vopcracker3193
@vopcracker3193 14 күн бұрын
​​​​@@sbuskauhis not necessarily. It's 5v5 that's the problem, full stop. Tanks make sense with two, especially with their more flexible/brawler playstyle nowadays. Go back and use the old format to stabilize the game and do to Tank what Support went through in 5v5 to get to Tank and DPS' level. Substantial reworks while removing problematic design (Tank synergy, Support power creep, lack of role identity overall) are more possible there.
@bui3415
@bui3415 14 күн бұрын
I see more than 5-6
@dashieldmasta177
@dashieldmasta177 13 күн бұрын
@@vopcracker3193 "the problematic design of tank synergy" Yes, that design problem so massive, sprawling and inescapable that they MADE A NEW FORMAT TO DEAL WITH IT
@Nooter_
@Nooter_ 15 күн бұрын
"I need to stop laughing at my own jokes but im so funny" I love you frogger.
@thelongpenguin5749
@thelongpenguin5749 15 күн бұрын
im really sad with how the pve is going, not just because its promises being abandoned. One of my favorite things about ow is its worldbuilding, and having that break down is devastating
@DoctorSquirt
@DoctorSquirt 15 күн бұрын
It still blows my mind that the free archives missions from like 2018 had more hero variety and replayability than the paid advertised 'full fledged' sequel to it..
@Lo0serx3
@Lo0serx3 15 күн бұрын
I don't understand why they stopped doing the Archives events. even having those as "missions" would've been something. I'm so upset, that was my favorite event in OW1, was super excited for OW2 PVE and now both the event and PVE are washed
@lilboiflacko7672
@lilboiflacko7672 13 күн бұрын
It would be so cool if they could continue with the story in game. They could release something like a mini battlepass like what they did with the Christmas pass but it could be like the official OW2 uniform for the characters. Brig and Lucio recently joined at the end of pve so they could get them.
@berthenson9946
@berthenson9946 11 күн бұрын
@@lilboiflacko7672 All of these things you and others are mentioning about worldbuilding would be and are bare minimums for creative teams at other companies. It couldn't be more obvious that blizzard only wants to push out content that will generate revenue. The creative vision, and community as a whole started dying around 2019-2020. At this stage, they made a business decision to not make content that steers focus away from new heroes, battlepass, skins, etc., even if it is received well by the community.
@johnsonspark171
@johnsonspark171 10 күн бұрын
@@berthenson9946 they answer to the shareholders first. Not a hard concept. And with the economy about the hyper-tank, expect Microsoft/Blizzard to have even deeper cuts. Notice how they didn't even show off Overwatch during the Xbox showcase today? Overwatch is just a vehicle to sell skins. That's it. Game is 8 years old. You guys need to let it go
@ItsSoOver...
@ItsSoOver... 15 күн бұрын
Here for this, spit your shit Big Man. You can play another game and I'd still watch it.
@nera9526
@nera9526 15 күн бұрын
Heavy on wanting guilds/lfg stuff. This game is at its best for me when it’s unserious and played with friends. It’s hard to make new friends in ow tho bc people are often kinda volatile recently. Also an official Lucio mafia guild would go crazy lol
@lakkaii
@lakkaii 13 күн бұрын
Only way I find ppl to play with is through dc rn. And I would really like to find ppl easier through the game rather than looking for active dc servers with lfg channels etc
@xboxchadrein8044
@xboxchadrein8044 15 күн бұрын
On the point about the Porsche collab... Conductor rein was one of the greatest rein skins ever cause train whistle. We definitely would have loved an engine sound on pin
@adriangomez6826
@adriangomez6826 15 күн бұрын
a giant fumble i feel like blizzard is still doing is not making community favorited arcade mods permanent. like why the fuck would you remove all archive missions and NOW the mirrorwatch mode that actually had somewhat fresh ideas on hero abilities. blizz just does not want their community to communicate or have fun.
@gqvVn
@gqvVn 15 күн бұрын
4:36 the boop on the arghh loll
@HugeHaddock
@HugeHaddock 15 күн бұрын
Talon Lucio would be crazy. His speed boost would slow enemies. And instead of healing, maybe a small damage boost. Or maybe lifesteal like Mauga's burning state
@beywheelzhater8930
@beywheelzhater8930 14 күн бұрын
Consider this: Speed boost giving a fire speed buff and health boost gives a damage buff The ult would basically just serve as a group stat buff, trading its defensive value to turn everyone around you into a ball of death The music of a man against the world, spurring people on to a revolution en mass
@ieatbugs45
@ieatbugs45 14 күн бұрын
evil demonic lucio music
@Pamijay
@Pamijay 15 күн бұрын
I agree with you. I get burnt out by new things so quickly in Overwatch. I think the community perception of the game ruins the game for me more than playing the game does lol. With so much toxicity in the community, it just doesn't feel good to play the game. I barely care about 5v5 vs 6v6.
@KraanFanFanFanFan
@KraanFanFanFanFan 15 күн бұрын
Had a dude that barely played enough ranked to get placed and was a masters mercy main that decided to play tank and pick rein, charges, dies, complains, stops fighting back, and then game ends and pops up "msg me when you guys hit masters" keep in mind this is a quick play game. How am I supposed want to queue solo if I just get a grown man throwing because he's pissy regardless of rank or being in competitive.
@sbuskauhis
@sbuskauhis 15 күн бұрын
@@KraanFanFanFanFanas long as they keep misdirecting us they can keep saving face, at least until there's no more face to save, then who knows what'll happen
@vopcracker3193
@vopcracker3193 14 күн бұрын
I prefer to blame Blizzard for cultivating the poor environment of this game. Cleaning house with their report system won't change the fact that _anyone taking this game even remotely serious just isn't having fun playing it._
@deusex9731
@deusex9731 14 күн бұрын
Thats why i ultimately stopped playing too. People in voicechat are just rude. Not everyone obviously, but the general atmosphere was pretty bad and i imagine that all the sane players just didnt use vc anymore, so only the annoying ones stayed, because thats what i did at least
@lilboiflacko7672
@lilboiflacko7672 13 күн бұрын
​@@deusex9731 I completely agree, I was playing with this dude who told me I was completely useless and had to switch. He complained about heals but he was sombra diving the backline on the highground in circuit royal while the team was all still at the bottom.
@splash5347
@splash5347 15 күн бұрын
Who knew the frog guy had thoughts other than ribbit? Banger vid tho
@tomhamm5303
@tomhamm5303 15 күн бұрын
real talk tho, i can't even boot up the game without alcohol in my system
@syberfang7890
@syberfang7890 14 күн бұрын
The death of Gauntlet was entirely Blizzard's fault, they expected that mode to have enough replayability to be fine, when that mode has little to none replayability. Let there be more things, more variables that change things up. And on with the rest of PvE, YES let players make it, we will do it, even I who just wants Archives but permanent would hope on the band-wagon to make it work. I just can't have fun in current overwatch due to the toxicity and poor gamefeel of tanks, I had hopes with PvE being a better place to just chill and have fun again, but that likelihood is just getting further and further away.
@yuiita
@yuiita 15 күн бұрын
cass grenade is so weird I've actually watched it make a sharp right turn round walls to hit me how is that allowed 😭😭 like I'm not even in his los why is it tracking me LOL
@cyanid3forlunch
@cyanid3forlunch 8 күн бұрын
Not to mention the 100 damage that comes with it 😂 so it’s practically undodgable AND it takes almost half your health unless you’re a tank.
@aguyontheinternet8436
@aguyontheinternet8436 15 күн бұрын
26:38 you know, I was playing Spiderman in Marvel Rivals and I thought "you know what, this kinda feels like Lucio, frogger would probably like this character" lol
@fettbub92
@fettbub92 15 күн бұрын
I loved playing Lucio in 6v6 as a Reinhardt taxi. Was so fun to take brawl tanks on magical adventures around the map, looking for squishies to eat. Now, I just play MOBA jungler on Lucio.
@heartcoma
@heartcoma 14 күн бұрын
THATS EXACTLY WHAT THAT MF IS
@ethansmith1991
@ethansmith1991 15 күн бұрын
The issue i have as a tank main with the counterswapping issue is that i dont want to counterswap but i get counterswapped by the whole team constantly. I want to play winston? sucks for me they swap reaper bastion, i want to play junker queen? get ready to be hit with ana mei. Same with zarya when i get hit with sombra constantly and i cant even bubble. it just feels like i cannot play because the enemy team hard shifts their team to counterswap me. I think its better queue times with 5v5 but the tanks just get punished for existing because of it
@ieatbugs45
@ieatbugs45 14 күн бұрын
kiri is also frustrating as junker queen because you need to REALLY pay attention to her suzu cooldown before you use your ult
@skeletonflash3965
@skeletonflash3965 2 күн бұрын
they need to make it to where you can only swap like three times throughout the course of the game
@dgedawesome1
@dgedawesome1 11 күн бұрын
Coming from someone who played overwatch a lot off on, coming back recently it reminded me how much of a coin flip the game feels. It’s very rare to find a close match. 90% of the time you either destroy the other team with barely any give, or they do it to you. Just a miserable experience both ways.
@halinaqi2194
@halinaqi2194 9 күн бұрын
Counter swapping really made games super one sided when one tank can counter swap and the other cant or refuses. 5v5 also made each individual player skill more impactufl on the game, if there was a smurf, or a mismatch on the match maker, its a lot more impactful. Just look at Battlefield as a more extreme example of this, more players in a lobby generally makes individual players impact lower, making games less steam roll-y. Def the biggest contributor is the tank experience in 5v5. Tanks just aren't fun to play competitively or fight against.
@CaptainSway
@CaptainSway 15 күн бұрын
Especially the venture cosmetics - shit is so annoying and it feels like the same treatment lifeweaver got where the lgbt+ characters that they hyped up were just left to rot because it was a queer attention grab but they weren't interested themselves as a company. Lw has a little more now because people have been calling them out along with their treatment of baptiste but it's very much a noticeable issue. Mauga had a bundle skin, 2 legendary skins, and a battle pass skin on his release. And they couldn't even be bothered to give venture basic legendaries. That's a fucking first. I will say that the hero mastery shit is actually really annoying as a casual player. I wanted to actually be able to learn how characters work and master scenarios instead of like. Having to rush through a timed relay where I have to double back to get coins just so I could get clout on a leader board... no diss on you, but I want to actually master a hero and not master a specific course. And hero gauntlet was a bit too ambitious for them imo - you could queue solo and get matched with other players but the difficulty scaled like shit and the map was too huge for the amount of enemies you have to go against. Cool concept but poorly done. Again it felt less like a mastery and more like. Chickens running around with their heads cut off. Wish it was more of a 'work together to protect this objective' rather than split up and collect coins to get more points kind of deal. Also agree about the community. Sick and tired of having to report at least one person every other game whether its homophobia or transphobia, toxic people who get mad I won't damage boost them on mercy lol, or people with egos too big for the fact that they're playing quick play its like. What is wrong with yall. I also stopped watching a lot of KZbin content bc every time it feels like there's a complaint about one character or another and it's so damn tiring. This game is so fun but definitely needs outside work to actually make it good. But it's ok guys instead of listening to what players want, how about another +5 to lifeweaver damage lmaooo
@teqque5982
@teqque5982 10 күн бұрын
I agree with everything you said but the mercy part... why wouldn't you damage boost your teammates, your dps more specifically? I mean, if you only heal as Mercy A LOT of potential is lost.
@CaptainSway
@CaptainSway 10 күн бұрын
@@teqque5982 my brother in christ I was not just healing I was also damage boosting but my team was constantly dying and ana could not heal my tank fast enough. Damage boost only needs a second to have the effect activated for a small window of time so I can swap it like frogger spams heal and speed and still get value. Please understand that neither you nor the dude in my game are my coach and I am just playing to have fun in quickplay. I don't need to maximise my value to do so lmao. The dude was mad that I wasn't pocketing him as pharah even though he never asked and immediately started flaming me when I wouldn't follow him on his weird ass flanks. I even told him that I personally do not pocket pharahs in qp matches because it's unfun as fuck to play against and I don't want to do that. But he constantly kept harassing me and telling me to damage boost even though we won the game lmao.
@Seikatsu121
@Seikatsu121 15 күн бұрын
I love overwatch rant videos. It feels good to hear someone say the quiet part out loud
@dumbhead128
@dumbhead128 15 күн бұрын
the pricing of skins now is sooooooo weird there are so many recolors that are 1900 coins when the original skin is like 1000 credits it makes no sense
@DarkVedalken44
@DarkVedalken44 15 күн бұрын
"I don't know why I said I love you" Story of my life. Ouch.
@sbuskauhis
@sbuskauhis 15 күн бұрын
Sorry. Felt that
@ieatbugs45
@ieatbugs45 14 күн бұрын
real
@gamersreactions9267
@gamersreactions9267 15 күн бұрын
I genuinely believe, that if they would just "release" 2017 Overwatch for free again, more people would play it than OW2 by a big margin
@RRRRRRRRR33
@RRRRRRRRR33 13 күн бұрын
Yep, like what happened with WoW. Marvel Rivals already have 1 million whislists on Steam and it's growing fast, if you look at the most played games on Steam, I think the alltime record is like 1.3 million active players or something like that, Marvel Rivals can reach 2 million if not more. I think this kind of surge, out of nowhere a very strong competitor, that will make Blizzard desperate, either forcing them to release "classic" Overwatch or change the gameplay even further (6v6 coming back or other drastic changes)
@ludwigvanbeethoven8164
@ludwigvanbeethoven8164 12 күн бұрын
I want 2020 ow
@darcidious99
@darcidious99 11 күн бұрын
Tbf we did pay $30 for that game, it should never have been removed in the first place, OR we should have been able to refund it because I knew as soon as OW2 was going f2p that all this shit would happen and I wasnt gonna play it anymore. I even called how they would can PvE, down to the 3 missions for $15 pricing scheme. I HATE that it was that predictable.
@RRRRRRRRR33
@RRRRRRRRR33 11 күн бұрын
@@darcidious99 In this "digital" era, we don't own anything anymore, it's the sad reality. If tomorrow Epic decides to close their store, for example, all the stuff you bought will simply disappear like dust
@darcidious99
@darcidious99 11 күн бұрын
@@RRRRRRRRR33 And that's fucking stupid and I (and everyone) fucking hates it. It's why I hate most of these multiplayer games cause once servers get discontinued support there just isn't a game anymore. That's one of the reasons pve is a massive slap in the face, I LIKE the characters and gameplay, I just HATE playing in a competitive match against other players. I want something I can just play on my own that isn't simply "overwatch but braindead bots". I wake up every day hoping Ubisoft announces that they go under for leading the charge on this "you don't own your games anymore" BS. I don't normally advocate pirating new games but for that company I'd be willing to make an exception... That is if their games were good enough to warrant pirating them in the first place.
@PRESPOVERTY
@PRESPOVERTY 14 күн бұрын
The mauga season killed my fun on lucio cuz I deranked a ton, everyone played mauga, and everyone shit on me for playing lucio instead of ana or kiri 💀. Mauga was really the downfall of the game for me
@CS-pg4go
@CS-pg4go 13 күн бұрын
Samee. I just stopped playing ranked completely. It was rough playing with tanks who didnt buy the bp because they couldn't mirror enemy mauga. Such an annoying season.
@Nemo.404
@Nemo.404 8 күн бұрын
Mauga meta was the worst. I was a tank main for an extremely long time, since overwatch one. My second role was support. I stopped playing both of those roles in that season and started playing only DPS. That season played just a bit until he was nerfed and haven't touched those two roles ever since
@PRESPOVERTY
@PRESPOVERTY 8 күн бұрын
we literally have trauma from mauga 😭😭. The game just doesn’t hit the same after that season
@Nemo.404
@Nemo.404 8 күн бұрын
@@PRESPOVERTY for real. It has been the worst season ever. Mauga feels like he doesn't belong in this game, he can't ever be meta again. The game just goes brain-dead
@kykatk
@kykatk 15 күн бұрын
The origin stories and cinematics were sooo iconic they need to bring them back 😾
@darcidious99
@darcidious99 11 күн бұрын
Honestly I don't see it doing anything. This is the same studio that said kiriko was years younger than the shimadas despite training against them, gave McCree 3 canon different ages, and are leading to the implication that Sojourn's sister was a middle aged teen when she had a child (technically possible yes, but I severely doubt that's what they wanted for that character). The lore is completely dead at this point, the only thing a cinematic would do is just look good.
@Audio_noodle
@Audio_noodle 15 күн бұрын
With the workshop, the main challenge is, that you don't have access to different effects, so you have to kind of make every ability awkwardly from those glowing balls instead. A proper workshop update that gave people the ability to use all the particle effects, glow effects, projectiles etc from the game with maybe more added in the future and also adding a damn map editor would really revive the game imo.
@ihopeyouandicanbefriends
@ihopeyouandicanbefriends 13 күн бұрын
my suspicion is that we didn't get any venture cosmetics because they're trying to phase out the usefulness of legacy coins and put all the cosmetics in the shop and battle pass for more purchases. if the next hero comes out with no cosmetics im gonna be sad
@nines2338
@nines2338 15 күн бұрын
I'm currently rank 2 eu in lucio hero mastery recruit. considering how much time I've put into this mode I'd like to see some kind of reward for doing well on the leaderboard whether it be a banner or a title or literally anything :3
@zepchir
@zepchir 15 күн бұрын
"im still kind of traumatized by the mauga meta" SAME.
@Jello-ri
@Jello-ri 14 күн бұрын
love frogger yapping. its nice to hear a streamers opinions (which are good and I didnt even think about) and they arent getting heated or just talking bout the pvp aspect!
@ShotoTodoroki-kw4lm
@ShotoTodoroki-kw4lm 9 күн бұрын
The Blinx the timesweeper ost in the background really made my day! Thanks for the fun rant, and I hope you have a great day!
@paigeshoneymoon
@paigeshoneymoon 14 күн бұрын
the true issue is Genji and mercy not being canon yet
@pastromer8552
@pastromer8552 15 күн бұрын
i just want them to put the story mode missions that we payed for in the custom games settings so we can make different versions of the missions because it would make people want to play them again and it would just be really cool
@RyuuRider
@RyuuRider 12 күн бұрын
The annoying part is that solo-Qing a mission gives you 30 seconds for some rando to join your queue before it puts you in with AI teammates. At least let me stay in queue for a few minutes - it doesn't feel right without actual players to enjoy the battle with. I also still don't have the Pachimari rescue challenge done. Who decided that all 4 players would have to rescue them for it to count - that's just cruel. Not to mention the issue of only 1 player being able to pay their subway fare for the challenge, but there are like 4 cups of coffee on the map (which a player can drink all of them and also pay the fare even if they already have the challenge done). The mission challenges sucked so bad, but playing them was fun.
@trahpper
@trahpper 12 күн бұрын
sadly blizzard's scared of people making better things than them
@darcidious99
@darcidious99 11 күн бұрын
​@@trahpperthey shouldn't be, I could shit on a plate and it would be better than anything Blizz is capable of making. That ship sailed when they were acquired by activision, and its ESPECIALLY set in stone now that they're owned by microsoft.
@bunniyubel3782
@bunniyubel3782 10 күн бұрын
On the topic of a lack of hero variety in ranked, just remember, gamer's are one of the few groups of people that will optimize the fun out of their own hobby. Once the optimal combination or character playstyles are found to win the most % of games played or wins the fastest, there's just less reason to play other 'suboptimal' strategies and/or characters
@icythesnowflake3322
@icythesnowflake3322 15 күн бұрын
For real though, I like just listening to ya talk about things on how you feel about the game, I love the storyline and stuff a lot but hearing how you feel about it makes me feel better that my opinions are matched, keep up the work!
@hurraozC
@hurraozC 15 күн бұрын
Ngl I never understood why devs didnt and still doesnt make a time scale for the dps passive it sounds super unfair if you think about how a full widow headshot (300damage) and a tickle from a tracer (can go lower than 1damage) has the same 20 percent heal reduction for 2 seconds. Like make it so damage over 100 in a single shot stay for 3 seconds and lower down the tickle damage dps passive timer to be least of 0.1 seconds. It always occured to me to be unfair when a 50m away soldier spamming primaryfire can give that full effect lol
@lsdxiii
@lsdxiii 15 күн бұрын
This might be a doomer take, but I honestly do not see this game lasting longer than 2 more years if shit doesn't change or improve.
@yurei3714
@yurei3714 13 күн бұрын
Ow1 lasted like longer than that and barely anything changed
@ItsSageCertified
@ItsSageCertified 13 күн бұрын
absolutely
@yaboiaxl1216
@yaboiaxl1216 9 күн бұрын
to say overwatch 1 was in a healthy state before they started releasing ow2 is quite an overstatement. the last couple of seasons didnt even have enough players to fill out 500 players above plat for top 500. i was top 500 after finishing my placements in low diamond ​@@yurei3714
@lundinstrom4749
@lundinstrom4749 2 күн бұрын
@@yurei3714 OW1 lasted because it was a purchased game that was fun to play with friends *and* had the "sequel" coming out Soon™ so people stayed to play because the sequel was gonna be lots of new stuff. Then OW2, the "sequel", was literally just an update that removed more content than it added, and started begging for money left right centre ontop of making you grind the game to unlock new heroes, that were free day 1 just a version patch ago. OW2 has a community of people that have isolated themselves so much they think the game will go forever but its very clearly on the path to *not*. They keep adding more currencies and ways to spend money, add almost nothing "new" (basically just skins), and still feel entitled to people spending money (the christmas mini-bp) after already spending. They literally want you to buy a singular skin for the price of the entire OW game (it was constantly on sale for $20 or so) that had every hero up till Sojourn instantly available to play. The game hasn't been doing well since launch, to the point the OW team literally didn't get pay bonuses (based on IP performance) because it wasn't performing and printing money like GaaS should. They've seemingly now devolved back to ow1 levels of updates where nothing happens for months, they add 1 or 2 things (usually skins you have to buy) and then do nothing until the next season where they add a few new things (you have to buy most of it). The only 1 good thing they did was stop locking heroes in the BP and that's about it.
@JChaseFilms
@JChaseFilms 13 күн бұрын
This kind of content from you is amazing. I love your visual editing style on the main channel, but this voice-only content is great to listen do when working or driving!
@itzcuzimbatman7876
@itzcuzimbatman7876 14 күн бұрын
Enjoyed the video, loved hearing how u feel abt game stuff, thanks for the entertainment while drivin around town
@RestedAura2
@RestedAura2 15 күн бұрын
honestly its nice to see this kind of rant. I have not played this game in a while so its to see the state of this game right now
@swerleybird
@swerleybird 15 күн бұрын
Hey Frog man, I liked your takes and the format. Nice video! 👍
@currentlyintoomanyfandoms2505
@currentlyintoomanyfandoms2505 15 күн бұрын
I totally agree, I’m a new player and hope that the changes the community wants somehow become reality! Also I love the guild and group idea, so much more cozier
@Gra5ss
@Gra5ss 15 күн бұрын
Being a ranked only player i want a full length ranked rant
@TheRealxKaydo
@TheRealxKaydo 14 күн бұрын
Players need impact. No one is killing anyone anymore. Fights are lasting 4-5 minutes when they should be being decided in 1-2.
@lilboiflacko7672
@lilboiflacko7672 13 күн бұрын
I think for newer players it helps them learn the importance of fights. They wouldn't learn anything if fights ended too quick.
@IwhowasdatXD960
@IwhowasdatXD960 12 күн бұрын
I personally think this is the biggest issue, i haven't played for a year but i remember having fun even when i decided to quit. Now i have so many games where players(myself included) have 0-4 elims and the most elims on the team are around 18. Also i feel like the games have been more 1 sided than before. There is also the issue with Counterwatch being a much bigger issue than what i remember. I don't know how but they somehow made the game worse. P.s id like to add there is alot that has changed(Illari,Mauga,Venture) so there are things im still learning.
@fracturedzone7225
@fracturedzone7225 11 күн бұрын
@@lilboiflacko7672 you guys are both right the problem is 6v6 was forced and not a side game mode. They couldve balanced it sepratly like PvE ( they fumbled)
@lilboiflacko7672
@lilboiflacko7672 10 күн бұрын
@@fracturedzone7225 100% agree, they fumbled hard. Im still enjoying the game but wish there was more. right now i wish they would give us legacy coins after tier 80 on the battlepass. the name titles are lucklaster rewards for such a grind same with the progression rewards.
@avioro4822
@avioro4822 15 күн бұрын
Isn’t it funny how the mythic skins (apart from Tracer) were only one tier of the battle pass, that being tier 80? Now, with prisms and eight individual rewards of ten prisms each, the mythic skin, to be fully unlocked, is effectively 10% of the battle pass… before it was 1/80 tiers, now it’s 8/80 tiers… not saying it’s a bad thing, I love the choice of forgoing a skin if you don’t like it or going back to get one you missed, but just a thing I noticed… they largely got rid of souvenirs to accommodate this change and that’s personally fine with me haha
@abudgie6909
@abudgie6909 15 күн бұрын
The only good souvenir is winton.
@ieatbugs45
@ieatbugs45 14 күн бұрын
I like equipping the weird garbage souvenirs because it’s like… what the hell are you holding
@MoonlightBrillance
@MoonlightBrillance 12 күн бұрын
@@abudgie6909and the heart lol.
@trahpper
@trahpper 12 күн бұрын
ana was also a 3 tier skin
@IronMan-jj2fd
@IronMan-jj2fd 5 күн бұрын
​@@abudgie6909wht abt credits & coins being on individual tiers? Credits used to be 2nd reward on a single tier & did not take up entire tier
@corneliustaifu5681
@corneliustaifu5681 10 күн бұрын
Thanks for bringing up Sojourn. She's pretty much been top tier since release, but no one has really talked about it. As a DPS player, I feel like I should play her often, but I don't really want to because she has such a generalist damage play style.
@Azrael_Xx_
@Azrael_Xx_ 15 күн бұрын
Heck yeah, I wanna listen to you rant more!! This was nice, and also pretty funny.
@AspenFrostt
@AspenFrostt 15 күн бұрын
frog man yappin is my new favorite type of content
@indigozie
@indigozie 13 күн бұрын
bro Venture's release was done SO dirty its actually insane, i swear Blizzard did everything they could to make sure they flopped: basically no cosmetics, no origin story/lore, went overboard nerfing them, etc. was literally so excited for the first nonbinary hero, and Blizz sh!ts on them like this LMAO cool 👍
@andrewyetman2939
@andrewyetman2939 15 күн бұрын
Honestly I love the topics talked about in this. I think that you bring up a really good idea with the community being able to free work with the story missions. I think Overwatch also just needs a better sense of community other than just hating on buffs or nerfs. Keep up the great work!
@MrBastionOverwatch0
@MrBastionOverwatch0 9 күн бұрын
I’ve been on a break from overwatch since the start of season 10 so this video helped me to understand what accrued in the season
@itdobeawren
@itdobeawren 15 күн бұрын
I really like the new type of video. As much as we all love goofy kangaroo Frogger, its cool to get your opinion on whats going on in Overwatch, especially with getting different perspectives. Would love to see more of these videos 😁❤️
@darraghmcmullen6205
@darraghmcmullen6205 15 күн бұрын
I think I prefer flash bang over that stupid magnetic grenade. How is it not just a better stun?
@notfranklin4916
@notfranklin4916 12 күн бұрын
Really liked listening u yap about random things. Wouldnt mind u making more like this in the future lol
@hdzziin
@hdzziin 11 сағат бұрын
ngl my boi froggie, you should do this kind of content, its so good, i've been doing stuff around my house and studying/eating while listening to you its good content, talking about stuff and playing whatever, i love your stream but sometimes i cant catch up :( so this is great
@Popilishis
@Popilishis 15 күн бұрын
love this style of content do make more
@Priesstt_
@Priesstt_ 15 күн бұрын
I don’t understand the removal of end of season competitive rewards. They said they would replace them with competitive challenges but even if you win every game it STILL takes more games to get to 3k than it did pre season 9 on top of not getting end of season rewards so there’s no difference in getting a high rank anymore other than a title, not to even mention the removal of getting rewards for each role which they removed in ow2 so what’s the point in being gm all roles other then titles/bragging which who cares and that
@Pes._
@Pes._ 15 күн бұрын
Not only that changed it so gold guns arent even legacy credits. It was all an excuse to remove the ow1 die hards currency n reset it. Just like ow.5n our box product we paid for instead of this trash that has EOMM as bad as cod.
@khblack1572
@khblack1572 15 күн бұрын
It's cool to hear your thoughts. I don't know if I want more of that specific content because I love your originality. Maybe if you could mix some of those takes into your videos they might be even funnier idk
@supergummytaco9588
@supergummytaco9588 15 күн бұрын
I really like this style of video because I only really follow you on KZbin. I like to see what else I missed about the game and what you think about it
@kingkills3406
@kingkills3406 15 күн бұрын
As a coder in the workshop the workshop rant hit sooo hard 😅
@trahpper
@trahpper 12 күн бұрын
genuinely real. one day they'll stop the neglect
@henrypanthofer4347
@henrypanthofer4347 15 күн бұрын
Being on speed boost increasing reload speed would be pretty sweet
@47battles
@47battles 6 күн бұрын
A good ol rant video , I live for these
@esacore3053
@esacore3053 10 күн бұрын
please make more of these i love hearing u yap about overwatch and i agree with 100% of this vid!!!!
@esacore3053
@esacore3053 10 күн бұрын
i dont like the porche collab but you mentioned characters who walk as opposed to characters who fly.. ❓
@esacore3053
@esacore3053 10 күн бұрын
dva makes sense cuz her mech can be considered a vehicle. Pharas was dumb. both the skins suck anyway
@cmdrapudma8132
@cmdrapudma8132 14 күн бұрын
Nerfing Lucio's gun is pretty boneheaded ....
@bluraspjell0878
@bluraspjell0878 15 күн бұрын
14:15 Overwatch 2 but every time I touch a wall I get FNAF jumpscared
@shadowsoul720
@shadowsoul720 9 күн бұрын
Was really nice to hear you talk on this. Appreciate it a lot. You're a great creator and person. Australia is lucky to have you 😇
@sunkenh
@sunkenh 15 күн бұрын
watched the whole thing, need more
@kaliek5281
@kaliek5281 10 күн бұрын
I get that you hate the 50% boop reduction on tank but....Tanks fuckin needed it. Playing tank basically requires you to be a Masochist in OW2.
@zoma7215
@zoma7215 14 күн бұрын
I miss the lfg system so much man, I don't understand why they would get rid of it.
@spacewaffle575
@spacewaffle575 15 күн бұрын
Loved this video, hope you fo more in the future
@Teomile
@Teomile 15 күн бұрын
I love the yapping with persona music in the background
@avioro4822
@avioro4822 15 күн бұрын
Mauga also has no base legendary skins even though Kiri, JQ, Sojourn, Ram, LW, and Illari ALL got a full set of 4 commons, 2 epics, and legendaries
@sneezingowl5560
@sneezingowl5560 15 күн бұрын
Yeah I honestly don't think it's gonna be different for Space Ranger or any characters after that
@beywheelzhater8930
@beywheelzhater8930 14 күн бұрын
Mauga and Venture don’t have good skins And Ram still can’t dance
@Klyttorius
@Klyttorius 14 күн бұрын
Have to HARD agree on a guild system. It would drastically improve the community. You create a guild, invite good people, kick toxic people. Guild leaders should be able to message other guild leaders to organize a tournament, all in game. Guilds could have a maximum player count of 100. You would see GM only guilds, Bronze only guilds, LGBTQ guilds, etc etc.. Guilds for all! Imagine tournaments set up with bronze vs bronze, watching those. They would be entertaining to see what unbelievable shenanigans go on there. Create your own community all in game. Needs to happen.
@disastrousicarus
@disastrousicarus 6 күн бұрын
this actually highlights a lot of my thoughts this season too bc like i enjoy this game a lot i love playing lucio but its just felt like its burning me out this season, honestly just ever since orisa meta. & i was so excited for venture only for them to get no lore & its just disappointing bc the lore was the reason i got into this game in the first place so i hope they bring back pve someday idk
@joshuastucky
@joshuastucky 8 күн бұрын
Love the random inclusion of the Novalis music from Ratchet and Clank around 7:23. Heard the iconic record scratch and had to bump the volume to confirm.
@liamshortland3238
@liamshortland3238 15 күн бұрын
Love these types of vids hearing your opinions and feelings, the only thing id say is maybe have a little gameplay, like when you are talking about Venture just play some Venture gameplay etc. just so my small ADHD brain has some new shiny thing to keep focused
@moleedaboi
@moleedaboi 15 күн бұрын
10:54 yeah, as a JQ one trick, Lucio is by far my favorite support to play with. Game's just fun when the meta is just the fun characters, man.
@sapphicseas0451
@sapphicseas0451 15 күн бұрын
Yeah for real!! Lucio in the JQ meta was so nice
@FantasyFantasy934
@FantasyFantasy934 15 күн бұрын
Nah, looks at genji. Genji meta is the last thing i want in overwatch
@hermans6971
@hermans6971 15 күн бұрын
Having vids like these in the background while playing ow is nice
@nuhget492
@nuhget492 9 күн бұрын
I love this video honestly, I like listening to people rant about things and I'm new to OW so this is all so interesting. What I've noticed is that the community is so toxic but whoever is in charge of the game is really trying to change it? But with the new season I hope with the new support they kinda fix the supports cause I love mercy but with DPS passive.... Have a good DAY FROGGAH
@somewhereatthemotel
@somewhereatthemotel 15 күн бұрын
The Overwatch community is a reason I stopped playing. Crazy how ppl will say such mean things to you based on the hero you play and the mistakes you make. I want to make friends in this game but the amount of toxicity I experienced made me shy away and get used to playing alone.
@trujo2022
@trujo2022 15 күн бұрын
9:06 YEAAAAH!!
@FelepClown
@FelepClown 15 күн бұрын
I love these types of videos
@Imeralds
@Imeralds 15 күн бұрын
yes talk about the drama, I want to know!!! Yapping frogger is the best!
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