NOTHING LIKE BEFORE! Garmin R50's New Home Tee Hero

[@LetsPlayThru]

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[@BSSDanMeyer]

Bought mine last night and now im sitting at the front door like a kid on Christmas waiting for it to arrive... Lol I'm excited to see the putting works so well. It's my usual gripe with most home simulators.

[@LetsPlayThru]

Let us know what you think once you’ve had a chance to test it out a bit.

[@aljames7345]

You wont be disappointed :). Mine arrived yesterday ive never been off it! Works great.

[@BSSDanMeyer]

@@aljames7345 love to hear it! Hit em straight ⛳

[@jwheels9876]

@@aljames7345 Do you have a youtube channel? would love to see a course or 2 to see how well they rendered them

[@The_YouTube_Critic]

I mean, you can tell me how good the graphics are all day - but I have eyes.

[@MikeSoutham]

exactly.... Gabe has lost me on this. Saying there is no need for a 3rd party software... a rather large shill comment there. Lets be honest, anyone spending that much on a launch monitor being content with HTH after seeing other software like GS Pro running would be few and far between. People just aren't that stupid or blind.

[@Cory123431]

And you need a PC to run GSPro or other software.

[@jdog8701]

@@MikeSoutham not needing a pc or a more expensive subscription....being able to take it to the range and use it, also being able to play roughly 90% of the courses in the world. theres a lot to like about HTH actually. Not everything needs to be photo realistic to enjoy hitting shots on different courses

[@Cory123431]

@@jdog8701 The R50 graphics aren't very good.

[@andrewpugh]

Striking it well Gabe. Great indepth review, answering a lot of the questions people are asking! Love from Wales, UK!

[@jeffyboi6969]

Im liking where this is going. Cant buy one yet but with all these improvements by the time i get a house in a year or so, these will be at such a great level.

[@nupezb]

Perfect timing I was just looking for this type of video

[@GolfGarbage]

When I sell my boat this may be the launch monitor that I’ll buy

[@TedInoue]

You convinced me so I ordered one. It already shipped even though they said 3-5 weeks. Wowza!

[@LetsPlayThru]

Whoa! Did you get from PlayBetter? They are shipping immediately.

[@TedInoue]

@LetsPlayThru I was going to and then forgot and ordered directly from Garmin. Sorry. I wanted to support you but I had a brain fart LOL

[@Cory123431]

I you use 3rd party software like GSPro you will need a gaming PC. That adds to the cost quite a lot.

[@johnmalonson4395]

With your influence, see if you can get Garmin to allow you to select just the holes you want to play in Home Tee Hero.

[@justinstephenson9360]

A high definition cartoon is still a cartoon. For occasional use, home tee hero on the R50 is good enough, but if you want to play courses regularly on a simulatory its graphical limitations will be off putting - but tbh if you want really good hd graphics you need something with a decent graphics card in it. Personally if I need to invest in a decent computer with a good graphics card i would want 4K graphics Overall I remain seriously impressed with the R50

[@Golf101inc]

Great vid Gabe! R50 certainly looks like a game-changer. The built-in processing unit is certainly interesting. Takes a lot of the tech burden off of getting a sim. Would be interesting to see what GoPro needs to integrate...

[@LetsPlayThru]

You will need a PC to run GSPro for now. It would connect via the USB-C port on the back of the R50.

[@Golf101inc]

@ thanks for the reply. That makes sense with storage probably being a bottleneck for having a truly “all in one” unit. I still think this makes huge leaps and bounds in the sim space though!

[@Scratchish_Golf]

@@LetsPlayThru for now???…is this hinting at some sort of built in version of gspro coming in the future? I have had a hard time with everyone hyping this up so much as an “all in one” simulator and saying “YOU DONT NEED A PC!” But if you buy it for that reason and realize you are stuck with HTH for course simulation you would be pretty disappointed.

[@LetsPlayThru]

@@Scratchish_Golf Not hinting at anything. I have no inside knowledge of what they're working on. Just hopeful.

[@sab6300]

I love the product but is there any chance you can show how the accuracy is effected using foam balls? My current home setup doesn’t allow me to hit real golf balls.

[@aljames7345]

@@sab6300 can you use a net outside? I do and it works really well

[@mafrif]

Do you need to aim shots/putts manually, or can you just aim left and right instead?

[@LetsPlayThru]

Either really

[@xemtra]

this thing looks so sweet

[@alainjacob3841]

As I'm currently well endowed with a lauch monitor and have reached the point where I hate hitting balls and only play golf courses, I'm wondering if the 43,000 stipulated courses at St-Georges de Beauce and Beauceville in Quebec Canada are part of the inventory. This is the only condition that will allow me to acquire the Garmin R-50 Thank You for the answer Alain Jacob

[@ToKiniAndy]

Love it. I think I'm going to get one, but they didn't release in Japan yet. Does Playbetter ship to Japan?

[@TedInoue]

The putting speed on HTH seems broken. Regardless of what I set the green speed to, it plays like a Stimp 6. really slow! When I switch over to GSPro, it's spot on, so I know it's not the R50's measurements. I would have thought this would be something that the QA team would catch immediately because it's so obvious. But for putting practice, this makes HTH worthless to me.

[@alainjacob3841]

When I go to Garmin's list of 43,000 golf clubs, it says contour and update. First of all, what does that mean? How can we be sure that this one is playable at home using the Garmin R-50?

[@John-lo6ck]

6:02 only for R50, not R10. Lame.

[@RG1GST]

I'd buy it if GS Pro worked straight through it. Disappointment that the R50 is a standalong unit but will need another computer for GS Pro to work!!

[@patrickringer5013]

Considering this LM but would love to see a lefty righty demo.

[@TedInoue]

Another question, maybe I missed it. Can you set fairway and green "firmness" like you can in GSPro? Now that everything is dry and hard here, I play "links" speed to be realistic on GSPro and it's fantastic. I'll probably end up using the connector to use GSPro on my existing PC, but it would be nice if HTH has these features too.

[@LetsPlayThru]

Just green speed. Not fairway firmness right now.

[@alainjacob3841]

If the name of my golf club is in the Home Tee Hero list, I can automatically play my course at home. I want to be sure before I pay 7762 $ Canadian taxes included. Thank you for taking the time to reply

[@commonman317]

Looks like this simulator is a lot of fun.

[@LetsPlayThru]

Yes, fun & ease of use is unmatched.

[@Blackcloud319]

It’s a nice unit don’t get me wrong. For me after thinking about everything, I’d rather spend an extra 1,500 and just get the Protee V overhead unit. From what I could gather, you’ll still need a gaming PC/Laptop to run GSPro and other third party software. The 50 just isn’t for me and my needs… great video as usual Gabe🫡

[@JustMeAP1]

Foresight GC3, Uneekor QED, SkyTrak SIG10, Full Swing, and Protee all seem better after need to add external hardware for serious software. The Protee doesn't require special balls or stickers. Retailers Rain and Shine have $500 off currently. Golf Simulator Experts has also... in the past. They are also providing the $995 ProTee Labs software bundle for free in the Black Friday deal.

[@Blackcloud319]

@ I have the Skytrak+ so I really don’t need another LM at the moment. I’m planning on upgrading the Protee V after I move. Don’t wanna get one now and have to take it down before the move. Skytrak+ also doesn’t require special balls or club stickers so it works for me. Just not really a fan of the 300+ dollar subscription fee to play their course package… maybe the price will come down in time.

[@JustMeAP1]

@@Blackcloud319 Amazing how the Protee, Full Swing, and QED software bundles lack any subscription fees. Should be the norm.

[@allahalibaba9063]

Gabe...What type of projected would you recommend for thie R 50 unit for the screen display??Thanks....Ali

[@LetsPlayThru]

Well I heard right now it will only support HD resolution projectors. So I think a nice BenQ 1080p projector would work great

[@dominiccarvelas3657]

Ordered mine 2 days ago. Can’t wait.

[@LetsPlayThru]

Congrats 🍾 let’s us know what you think

[@dominiccarvelas3657]

@@LetsPlayThruI will. Also getting the Simulator package from let’s play through. Look forward to setting it up and having my first home golf simulator. Thanks for your videos. Helped me make decisions.

[@Tubezilla]

Would you not have waited until it's compared with trackman of gcquad? It may not be accurate

[@DurangoLegend]

@@Tubezilla It's a three camera system so it should match the GC3. If not, I am sure Garmin will keep providing software updates until it does. Comparing to a Trackman would be a nice confirmation about the state of the system right now but no doubt will want their expensive flagship system to be the best 3 camera LM out there.

[@dominiccarvelas3657]

@@Tubezillathere are videos already up comparing to to Track man and with the exception of club to path angle all the rest has been very accurate within levels I’d want for my practice. It’s already shown to be better than GC3 but given that this has top of the line technology and GC3 is a few years old that is expected. I had a Garmin R10 so upgrade to the R50 given the value and me wanting to build a full simulator it made sense since I already have Garmin golf subscription. And I’m sure the R50 will get better with software updates to be more accurate over time. But out of the box most reviewers are happy with the accuracy so far.

[@CHR15Y-BoY]

Hi can you connect tv and projector at the same time? Only see 1 HDMI port?

[@LetsPlayThru]

You could by splitting the signal with an adaptor. That's how I screen recorded and projected at the same time.

[@pkafka80]

Curious about the E6 or other software options. Do they still require a PC or something to run them?

[@jwheels9876]

Yes, they do.

[@125phr]

Looks a neat setup quite a step up from r10 ,if hadn’t opted for Protee Vx defo would have considered .

[@TedInoue]

Hey Gabe, how have you found terrain mapping? I use GSPro now and it's super-accurate for fine contours. I have to imagine the built-in Home Tee Hero courses are much less detailed but curious on your experiences.

[@LetsPlayThru]

Yes there is considerably less detail. Main features are all there though.

[@davidcole2337]

R50 is great if you don't already have a Gaming PC to run Apps. For Complete Starter It is good option.

[@Spikesbluecollargolf]

You need a gaming computer for anything past HTH

[@HakonJohansenKampen]

Can't imagine anyone spending $5000 on a LM is going to settle on HTH for a sim software, which makes the whole "all-in-one" concept a moot point.

[@DurangoLegend]

@@HakonJohansenKampen Why is that? Those graphics are fine and the greens, traps, trees, slopes and ponds are accurate. GSPro is supposedly eveybodys gold standard and the graphics are wildly inconsistent across courses. Not to mention that it costs a lot more and doesn't have hometown courses available. With HTH I can actually practice my local course all winter long. Can't do that with GSPro or E6. In my opinion E6 is the one that sucks. Can't even edit your golf bag and it doesn't have near the metrics and flexibility of display as the others. They just charge a lot and give you a very small subset of courses.

[@HakonJohansenKampen]

@@DurangoLegend Aesthetics is of course subjective, but the consensus seems to be that HTH is too cartoon-like. I don't think the graphics are improved enough to change that view. I like the idea of being able to play most of the courses you want, but my experience is that they are barely recognizable, and that kills the joy for me. I want more realism for my sim. I had both HTH, E6 (basic sub) and GSPro for a while, and after switching to GSPro I never looked back. If you prefer the graphics of the HTH, that's great for you, getting a cheaper subscription. But you're part of a minority, and that's what I'm pointing out. I still believe most people will want more than what HTH offers.

[@ryanliu5]

Thanks for the great video. Would you still recommend this one if I mainly want to use it at the range to improve my ball striking? Or you would recommend something else if home sim isn’t going to be used much? TIA.

[@LetsPlayThru]

This thing is awesome at the range, but it is also very big. It may be too cumbersome if it’s constantly traveling.

[@IllinoisBilliardsClub]

I’m familiar with all those courses! North Tampa area.

[@laybacklarry]

Good stuff. Hoping Santa will bring me one. Santa still comes for people in their 50s right? Lol

[@LetsPlayThru]

Absolutely he does 🎅🏼

[@pkafka80]

Great info! I'm leaning towards getting one for a home simulator (I'll use your link). I have an R10 that I only use at the range because I don't have the indoor space for a radar based launch monitor. If I already have a high end gaming PC and projector, would this still be a good choice, or are there any better options? I'd like to play courses with more realistic graphics.

[@LetsPlayThru]

I would say if you already have a gaming computer, you could do something like a BLP or Skytrak+ and save some money. Now the caveat would be the subscription costs of those. BLP can get pretty pricey.

[@jwheels9876]

Would love to have seen you play your home course that you do alot of your videos on. How did it look compared to real life? I have a launch monitor already but playing all the courses I play IRL at the press of a button would be nice. Pebble would have been cool to see as well. I saw it in your recently played there on the screen lol

[@MichaelK-z3o]

If I wanna use GS pro with it, how do I hook it to the computer? Can you do a video on that?

[@LetsPlayThru]

You would simply connect it via USB to your computer and run GS Pro off that.

[@Tubezilla]

Won't it be slow and laggy through USB? Have you actually tested it that way or just repeating Garmins blurb?

[@LetsPlayThru]

@ I didn’t get to directly test it myself since that feature wasn’t ready when I beta tested the unit. But I don’t see any reason why it would be laggy. That’s how most launch monitors connect to a PC including my BLP and GC4.

[@qdub2012]

I wonder is this devices internal software it tailored for the Garmin and how high of graphics you can play with 3rd party and how long until it is outdated software

[@jwheels9876]

3rd party software will be dependent on your PC only. The launch monitor will just pass the ball/club info along.

[@Evan_Rodgers]

Hey Gabe can you walk through connecting to E6 and GS Pro? I’m hearing it’s via HDMI and that seems wild.

[@LetsPlayThru]

It is via USB-C to a gaming computer

[@charleshillyer2754]

I have a GC 3, do you think this would be an upgrade or about the same?

[@LetsPlayThru]

I would stick with the GC3 I think. That’s a pretty amazing unit too.

[@DurangoLegend]

@@jonathandeboer74 Should be about the same as they are both 3 camera systems. If not then Garmin will probably keep tweaking the software until it matches or beats GC3.

[@markmanning986]

how much space ahead of the unit do you need for ball flight?

[@aljames7345]

The ball sits around 15-18 inches away from the unit, directly in line so shank proof unless youre completely useless.

[@markmanning986]

@@aljames7345 I mean from unit to screen. I need at least 8 ft for my r10. Want to know if the screen be closer. I use nets at my house.

[@aljames7345]

Ah ok. Unit to screen is irrelevant. It’s measuring the area around the ball. Works like the GC3 Once the ball is flying off that’s it. You see it near instant too which is amazing. The practise areas are excellent. I’m using in the garden and quite close to my net for safety 😂

[@jeffyboi6969]

@@markmanning986 this is a $5k machine compared to your $500 machine, the tech in this wont require fidgeting that the cheap R10 requires. distance is irrelevant

[@salahlah23]

If i connect it to a touch screen, can I use the touch screen to navigate?

[@LetsPlayThru]

Hmmm, not sure, but likely not.

[@FMarklf1]

I like the option of 43k courses. Does the Home Tee Hero app integrate with other launch monitors like Foresight or Flight scope? Might be worth $100 a year to play pretty much any course in the world you want, even if the graphics aren’t the best.

[@LetsPlayThru]

It’s only for Garmin devices

[@REDspitfire]

Hi Gabe, Love your channel and reviews! I'm looking at purchasing a launch monitor fairly soon.... Any chance you can gat your hands on the NEW VoiceCaddie SC4 PRO and do in-depth review? .... the SC4 PRO seems very promising on paper but would really like to get your thoughts.

[@LetsPlayThru]

That’s definitely one on my list to try 😀

[@shawndgee]

So does the R50 have a speaker built in?

[@aljames7345]

Yes but Through bluetooth headphones

[@shawndgee]

@@aljames7345 or bluetooth speaker i assume

[@aljames7345]

@@shawndgeesorry. Yes or speaker.

[@ryanstratton5895]

The ball flight doesn't match up where the ball hits the screen

[@CraigBrown-w8e]

What's the battery life?

[@tommiev975]

4 hours … Gabe indicated he got easily 6 hours out of it.

[@travisdevore308]

Do you think Garmin will eventually add other game play modes to hero like scramble, skins, etc??

[@LetsPlayThru]

If they are listening to the community, they will. I think it’s a must have.

[@travisdevore308]

@ I did just submit to their idea center so hopefully they’ll listen. If anyone else is thinking the same I’d suggest sending in the idea to Garmin.

[@Tubezilla]

Knowing Garmingolf, they will do as little as possible. They focus on selling hardware and put no effort into software and apps. Their golf team are next to useless

[@soupy01833]

if you only plan to play the built in HTH and the range it is a good option,. for everything else there are better options

[@DurangoLegend]

The best thing is this LM allows you to do both. You can play the simplified local courses for much less cost. But if you have a PC and a subscription to GSPro you can play those too. I bet within a short time you would probably drop that high priced GSPro option and just use HTH because it would be more fun to play courses you can play in real life with your friends.

[@MikeSoutham]

I agree... once people get over the 'wow factor' of the screen... No one who is semi serious will touch HTH and will need a computer anyway.... Its overkill IMO. Would rather spend far less for a LM just as good and get a good PC for the same price...

[@soupy01833]

@@DurangoLegend if you are paying 5k for a LM i dont consider 250 a year high cost for gspro when HTH is 100 per year and they are not close to what they deliver

[@DurangoLegend]

@@soupy01833 I haven't been impressed with GSPro. It is such a mishmash of graphics and detail quality between courses that you don't know which are well done and which are trash. I have found that only about 20 or 30 courses are really well detailed and high quality, most are trash and not very accurate. At least HTH looks to be consistent course to course and had a much larger catalog of courses. I can now play and practice all of my local courses and I can't do that on GSPro. So yeah, I find $300 a year plus the cost of high end gaming PC a waste of money and more time consuming to setup every session compared to just using HTH. In fact, I would rather use Awesome Golf and its games and new courses than GSPro, honestly. I just don't see the attraction.

[@stevekaiser4198]

When you start doing comparisons make sure to use other $4,000 units

[@ZachEller]

I've been watching the videos for a while. Great content. I saw you played Bryan Park in Greensboro NC! I grew up playing that course... that is insane that you can play local courses with Garmin. I just picked up an r10 for my garage sim build. Im curious if you think they will update Home Tee Hero in the app to match these updated graphics? It seems like an easy port now that they have the courses rendered and phones are plenty powerful enough.

[@LetsPlayThru]

It's my understanding they want to keep this version for the premium product offering...at least for a while.

[@Jarhead0331]

So you’re confident in accuracy? You should deliberately shank or fade or hook a ball to see how it reads

[@LetsPlayThru]

I did (not deliberately I might add). It read it.

[@aljames7345]

I did soft shank, it correctly displayed how shit my shot was

[@jwheels9876]

There is a video out there where someone shanks it sideways and it reads it perfect lol

[@aljames7345]

@@jwheels9876maybe the firmware update I did when I got the unit fixed that? Maybe theirs wasn’t updated.

[@jwheels9876]

@@aljames7345 I meant it read the shot perfect as in straight off to the right

[@gavinleeburn1]

No sound built into actual device?

[@LetsPlayThru]

Now I'm going off memory, but I don't think so. I think you need to hook into a projector or HDTV to get sound output.

[@02joshy]

The square seems to be most worth it

[@DurangoLegend]

It's a nice budget LM but doesn't measure club data as accurately and doesn't have an impact camera for playback. But for the money it is a fantastic unit. Also can't be used at the driving range like this unit.

[@JustMeAP1]

An example of Garmin not seeing their R50 as competitive hardware is how they've chosen to use a vendor lock-in marketing strategy with their graphically updated version of Garmin Home Tee Hero. Disappointing.

[@LetsPlayThru]

It interfaces with GSPro, E6 and Awesome Golf out of the box.

[@JustMeAP1]

​@@LetsPlayThru Their vendor lock-in strategy is still typical of non-competitive products. I wasn't talking about how you saw the product but how Garmin sees it due to this choice. Disappointing. And the biggest feature is the R50's lack of external hardware... no longer true with GSPro or E6.

[@jwheels9876]

@@JustMeAP1 Bro, Foresight, Uneekor, Skytrak etc all have their own software now same as this thing and all interface with 3rd party software same as this thing. What's the issue with them offering their own software out of the box?

[@JustMeAP1]

@@jwheels9876 Well, locking their existing customers out is seriously different. That communicates they are disloyal and feel the need to force people to buy. They have also not upgraded their practice software. It is not in any way competitive with other systems in the $5k to $9k range. That says they assume you'll buy anything with their name on it. Twice they say they're pathetic. You may be impressed by pathetic. Not me.

[@Nick-kq2sw]

If you're one who just wants to practice shots and maybe playing sim only occasionally, I see how Garmin's course software is fine. However, if you play much, I doubt many people would find the graphics acceptable. GSPro is worlds better. Even Awesome golf is better. I think the graphics kinda suck.

[@clw22580]

Yeah not showing Distance is a STRANGE/BAD omission - that said this thing is about to DESTROY everything in this price range

[@Tubezilla]

We're not even sure if it's accurate yet

[@clw22580]

@ EVERY video I’ve seen thus far seem to indicate it’s +- less than 1% different from GC3

[@JG_20_25]

Having to bend down or kneel to aim before every shot is a deal breaker for me. Not very friendly for older golfers.

[@LetsPlayThru]

I empathize with older golfer, and I will say this.... You really only have to bend down on the putts really. Which you'd probably bend down anyway to mark you ball, replace it, etc. I like it a lot more than walking back to my desk and fiddling with a mouse every time.

[@JG_20_25]

Well, if it’s like all other simulation software, the average golfer has to aim on most shots… to lay up, avoid a bunker, get back out to the fairway, etc. The unit looks great and it would be my next upgrade if the screen wasn’t so low.

[@JustMeAP1]

@@JG_20_25 Amusing how everyone always aims with the software and not IRL / screen.

[@DurangoLegend]

Just use a telescopic pointer. They make them for touch screens and they work great. You could keep it retracted in your bag or pocket and then extend it and use it to control the software without bending.

[@willallan77]

So this will play gspro etc ? I'm chasing a best bang for buck system I can get in Australia. If this saves buying a PC to run then you're winning there 🤷‍♂️ but I want the best graphics software not this cartoon type graphics... I'm impressed with the accuracy it seems to display...

[@LetsPlayThru]

If you specifically want to use GSPRo you will still need a gaming computer. Home tee hero requires no computer, but that's the only one.

[@dontpanic716]

Will this version end up on the r10?

[@qstorm76]

R50 is more for the prosumer crowd

[@JustMeAP1]

The included software doesn't seem at all "professional" level. This is simply for someone with more money to burn. Not the same thing. A "prosumer" would want a better practice submenu. Garmin just renamed Range to Practice, but the menu didn't get any better. I'd love a single-user, lower-res entry-tier FSX 2020 Practice or Trackman Shot Analysis / Tracy at this price point. FSX 2020 includes "prosumer" swing action replay, targeted training analysis, detailed shot data, etc. Trackman uses AI Motion Analysis to scrutinize both static and dynamic body aspects during the entire golf swing process, more detailed data, speed training, Performance Center, etc. Yea! While it seems most buy to play courses, with games to rationalize the purchase to the family, everyone I know with a home setup ends up spending most of their time in practice sessions.

[@DurangoLegend]

@@JustMeAP1 I would bet it is coming. Garmin just brought this to the market. The HTH and range were first. Next will be games, and training. Probably sell the upgrade at a price just like Flightscope does every other year.

[@Laceh1]

Product seems great but the graphics of the course look nothing like the real life course which is pretty sad.

[@jeffyboi6969]

this is just coming from someone who 3D models and textures for a living. It would take sooo much man power to make courses look like E6 or Toptracer or any of those fancy ones. Those types of programs only have like 50 courses that are hyper realistic. E6 having more than that. Each of those courses are made by hand. Hometown hero has like fuggin 40,000 courses or whatever. You can't make 40,000 courses hyper realistic. Its impossible. Theyre using super simplified models and textures so you can play more courses rather than having really good graphics with less courses. You have to choose one our technology will not allow otherwise. Youd literally have to send someone to take pictures and 3d scans of every single course, and then model them, texture them, set up the holes...etc...its not even close to feasible unfortunately.

[@nomorenonsense]

​@@jeffyboi6969I believe the issue is the built in processor and video card can't handle highly rendered files. They could easily make imaginary courses that look great like many of the other manufacturers do. I am a civil 3d designer and file sizes get massive with high detail. The technology built in is a great idea but also it's downfall. I highly doubt you can upgrade the specs. Like mentioned If you want to run high quality courses you need a laptop. Kinda defeats the whole purpose of a all in one.

[@Laceh1]

@@jeffyboi6969I am not saying it has to be hyper realistic. But the course seems unrecognisable now. For the price point it is perfectly fine but I can’t imagine adding a few more layers of detail would be unreasonable, you could even let algorithms do the work for you, like Flight Sim 2020 does. Recognition of bushes instead of trees as the standard and adding marram grass would make it much more realistic.

[@lazerflavor]

You can still add GSPro with an external PC, this is a great way to practice and play the layout of a local course that hasn’t been built on GSPro yet. You don’t lose anything by going with this system.

[@Ghostygoon]

Feel like the hyper realistic courses is actually kind of look bad and cringe much prefer this look

[@MikeBodo]

$5k is way too rich for my taste. It's nearly the cost of a private club membership. Two years from now when the competition has caught up this will cost half as much.

[@JustMeAP1]

Competition (Foresight GC3, Uneekor QED, SkyTrak SIG10, Full Swing Protee) has "caught" up. But yeah, this disruptive market is still settling. But half price?!? Maybe in 5 to 10 years. Not 2.

[@MikeBodo]

@@JustMeAP1 This is no different than when HD TV's first came out. The cost of those came down quickly after two years, as there were a plethora of them to choose from. The launch monitor segment is no different. The fact you can buy a Bushnell monitor/simulator for fraction of the cost of what a GC Quad was two years ago, with just as good optics tells me everything I need to know. The launch monitor space is a very crowded one from a product standpoint, but isn't that big from a consumer standpoint. Anyone that's ever wanted an in-home launch monitor/simulator pretty much has one by now. All the manufacturers can hope for is getting people to upgrade, yet there's a glut of product on the market. In order to move it you're going to see prices drop substantially following the holiday's, as there hoping there's enough suckers out there willing to pay full prices between now and Christmas. When cabin fever sets on come Feb./March and people are looking for any opportunity to play golf outside you're going to see the price of these devices plummet. Not necessarily the new Garmin unit, but plenty of others.

[@Tubezilla]

Test it against the Gcquad already 😒

[@GolfGarbage]

First view!

[@MikeSoutham]

not needing a 3rd party software????? C'mon Gabe... HTH is not even in the same ballpark as GS Pro etc.

[@LetsPlayThru]

@@MikeSoutham have you tried the new one? It’s actually a great experience. Sure, it’s not as feature rich as GSPro, but it could very easily be a lot of people’s choice for ease of use and hassle-free setup.

[@Brandon-sr2bl]

That’s bullcrap that the new Home Tee Hero won’t work on R10

[@DurangoLegend]

This just came out. It is very possible that Garmin want to keep it just for the R50 in the first year to give the R50 a little exclusive help in sales. Maybe after the first year, Garmin will update HTH for the R10 as well.

[@catman1050]

Do you have a 50% coupon code? lol

[@LetsPlayThru]

I wish! 🤣

[@conorholmes4796]

All that data and I’ll still never hit a draw 😒

[@jeffyboi6969]

hit the outside of the ball. swing slower. exaggerate your back shoulder turn coming across your body during your swing. you're welcome.

[@LetsPlayThru]

Start using the Hackmotion and I bet you'll start hitting draws :)

[@bogytime1352]

@@jeffyboi6969loosen up ur grip and low angle of attack

[@ericwilliams9717]

i wanna sell my flight scope mevo for this lol

[@DurangoLegend]

Me too. I purchased the new Garmin R50 but it was out of stock so I am waiting. Now I will probably give the Mevo+ to my son.

[@sebastiancheng3211]

its great it just doesnt look as good sorry

[@jeffyboi6969]

why are you sorry its not his product lmao

[@OnTheSnap1]

Squatting constantly to use the UI is utterly stupid

[@LetsPlayThru]

In fairness, you don't have to squat or bend down very much at all once you're setup. I'm doing it much more since I'm demoing the features. I sure prefer it to walking back 8 feet to my desk every time though.

[@nomorenonsense]

I would have to completely disagree on high definition graphics. Tiger Woods golf from 1998 had better graphics and more detail than this. I understand they sent you this for free to try out and could be a paid promotion. But we can all see the graphics are well behind almost every other product out there.

[@LetsPlayThru]

I had to split out the signal to the projector and my screen recorder. So some of the details are actually lost in what you see here. I'll also mention Tiger Woods had about 15 courses to choose from. You've got 43,000+ here. Is it better than GSPro...no. Is it a major step up and actually decent...yes.

[@nomorenonsense]

​@@LetsPlayThruI am a Civil 3d designer and work with this stuff daily. The built in graphics card can't handle highly rendered objects and the reason it looks like a cartoon. The launch monitor side of the product looks to be great though.

[@LetsPlayThru]

That sounds like a fun job!

[@aljames7345]

@@nomorenonsense if all you got with this unit was the practise areas garmin would still sell these all day long. The courses agree arent the best but you will soon be able to use this unit and dial in your other softwares.

[@ProgressiveDemagogue]

Shill for everyone 😂

[@Golden3ye]

"incredibly realistic graphics" he says while showing a screen that somehow looks worse than roblox

[@mikeh1889]

Those graphics are awful and still miles behind a lot of 3rd party offerings. For £5k/$5k I'd expect SO much better.

[@joesmith6972]

This is the Wii of golf simulators. Sure it might be fun for a few rounds with friends on a drunk Friday night but no real sim golfer is spending $5,000 for Mario Golf.

[@jwheels9876]

just like every other launch monitor you'll buy a PC and other software if you want the high end graphics. This is for people who probably won't get hung up on amazing graphics and like being able to play any course they want. If they want a better software they'll have to pay just like we all do with other LM's

[@Spikesbluecollargolf]

Hd cartoons? Still cartoons. Boy they missed it bad. For the money it either needed to be overhead unit, or have the processing power many think it has. It runs better hth, but to use anything with real graphics you must connect a gaming computer. At $5000 you still are buying a computer, then you move it so lefty can hit. Big pass for me, I don’t even need to test one in my channel to know! No way! Save the postage!

[@JustMeAP1]

I like my "cartoons." But I still completely agree. Unlike anything before, but not in a good way. I'd prefer a unit that could be used behind or above, like the EYE EO, AND outside for $5,000. Yeah!

[@DurangoLegend]

Personally I prefer the simplified clean graphics that are consistent course to course than the mishmash of graphic quality that is the GSPro catalog. Sure some courses are rendered fantastic but maybe only 1 in 10. Many others look like crap. The HTH 43,000 courses all have a consistent clean high quality feel. Sure they aren't super realistic but they aren't cartoons like Awesome Golf and look how well Awesome Golf has been doing. Many people like myself just want to play courses that we can play in real life like our local courses. GSPro and E6 don't offer that and probably never will. HD quality is plenty good enough and not everything has to be reality to get enjoyment out of it. Sometimes the simpler the better. Where I think this product shines is in its ease of use and setup. You can go from pressing the on button to playing a round on practically any course around the world in less than 45 seconds. It takes me a good 15 minutes every time I start and calibrate my Mevo+ to play Awesome Golf or E6 on only a handful of courses that I will never be able to play in real life.

[@JustMeAP1]

​@@DurangoLegend "This product shines in ease of use and setup." You shouldn't be surprised to see that at this price level. It's what reviewers say of Tiger's Full Swing. Have you looked at anything else over $5k?

[@DurangoLegend]

@@JustMeAP1 Yes, I currently have a Mevo+ with pro package and face impact. With upgrades it's about $4000 and it pales in comparison to this unit in terms of capabilities, space requirements, and ease of use. I looked at the Eye EO but it was quite a bit more for a 3 camera version (about $8k), the 2 camera version is on sale right now for ($5600) but it isn't as accurate from what I have seen and it requires connection to a PC to be able to run any practice or play session. I just don't want to mess with PCs. Not a fan of windows PCs with all their spyware, tracking, and big brother Microsoft. Not to mention noise, heat, and power they use. The Garmin R50 seems to fill the bill and will work great in my setup. Plus I want to play my local courses in sim and they aren't offered in GSPro or E6.

[@JustMeAP1]

@@DurangoLegend With any "pro" package, the Garmin R50 is thousands of dollars more costly. The Uneekor EYE XO is currently $5,600 and a better comparison. The Uneekor EYE XO comes with the VIEW software for free (and a free year of GSPro). Both View and GSPro put Garmin Practice (formally Range) to complete shame. The EYE XO is known for its high accuracy, with data readings over 95% accurate. At this price point, there's no data suggesting one is significantly better than any other. The Metro+ is the one that doesn't compete for accuracy. Not even close. There's just no impressive software without a PC. It's what really makes the R50 such a silly joke. At over $500, it's not the courses or games, but the PRACTICE software that matters.

[@stevemobley9741]

The R50 $5,000 price point is a blunder. The less than $2,000 LM market demand is very high. The desire and purchasing power in the under $2,000 price point is where Garmin should have went. Most of the R10, MLMPro, Mevo+ and both Skytraks owners who have an established sim room setup 4K computers and projectors and nice sim bay, will not be looking to purchase the R50 for their next LM. Garmin's product marketers need to start following the growing Golf Sim world. The R50 brings high-end capabilities at a more accessible price point, for those who want the advanced data and insights of top-tier LM without spending $10,000. Okay, R50 is a great unit however just how big is that market demand? R50 will sell early because it is the new shiny toy for those with money and then the R50 will fade. The built in screen for sim play is a Turn off. I have a stand with wireless keyboard and mouse 2 steps away from where I hit, no bending over. Most sim room have setup where their controls are close by and easy to use without bending over.

[@LetsPlayThru]

I was hoping for them to roll something out at $1,999 too. But I think they have already cornered the lower end with R10 and they wanted a high tier product that was groundbreaking. I do think we may see a mid-tier product offering from them down the road, just like they did with golf watches. They had low cost and high cost and the S42 mid range came out later.

[@Spikesbluecollargolf]

@@LetsPlayThruGabe I expected them to come out under $2000 would sell a lot. Garmin is blown out by Square now most likely. I would never go back, lol Still needing a gaming computer for anything past hth, will stop many! If it would play those natively, then it would be a $4999 deal!

[@mvansb23]

Yeah. Who would want a 20k simulator for 5k. No market. Who cares about the screen. You can turn it off and still use your keyboard. I’d rather have an r50 and 15k in my pocket than my gcquad

[@DurangoLegend]

I doubt Garmin will regret pricing this device the way they did. They know the market better than anyone and I suspect they will sell thousands of these units. Perhaps hundreds of thousands as I don't know how big the sim all in one market is. All I know is they sold out the first batch fast and the second batch is getting ready to come out but with preorders only right now.