Sam is right about who should be on the PL 115 panel. The PL should not be appointing the panel At CAS, in order to be entirely fair and to be seen to be fair, each side should choose panel members. There was and maybe is a suggestion that Maurice Rosen, he man in chrge of legal affairs for the PL and an Arsenal member, would himself chair the panel. That would be completely unfair and would be seen to be unfair. Sam is also right about time limits. No time limit at all is unfair. English law says that it is 6 years and the PL rules say that they are made subject to English law. Contradiction.
@sidavies66252 ай бұрын
But it aint the law here. Documents from clients are kept for six yrs after a case. They were already found guilty by UEFA on the same/similar charges. 30 charges of which are failing to produce documents since 2007-08 onwards. Let them rot in complete relegation. Helleva culture !
@nigelduckworth44192 ай бұрын
@@sidavies6625 Where is "here"? the only UEFA charges upon which City were found guilty by CAS were for non cooperation. They will probably be found guilty of the same offence in the PL case. The result is a fine because it has no bearing on cooking the books.
@andrewflynn78213 ай бұрын
Love Micky and Sam but how on earth do you know we are not going to get promoted? We’ve won 4 and lost 1 game and we have a proper manager in charge in Regis le Bris who is tactically good and demands much standards from the team.
@westynufc903 ай бұрын
Maja
@alisonryan34012 ай бұрын
Really hope you do
@daymoscott2 ай бұрын
It’s an opinion it’s not fact. Stop trying to make more out of it than it is. Good luck with your promotion. I actually like Sunderland.
@NUFCOfficial2 ай бұрын
You always bottle it
@findingaether2 ай бұрын
The game is rigged😂
@lukepothecary54862 ай бұрын
FairPlay to Micky, he spoke better on Utd than any other pundit I’ve seen or heard in the media 👍
@deancummings26442 ай бұрын
Nobody from Sunderland has ever said don't fall in love with a player because they're going to leave. Stick to corresponding for the Manchester clubs Micky as you've spouted absolute shite there marra
@markriggall77413 ай бұрын
Mickey Grey is talking nonsense about Sunderland. "Don't fall in love with the players as they wont be here that long" I'm sure he's made that up! Also Ross Stewart came from Ross county and not Ayr? His knowledge of football never mind his hometown club is terrible. Do your homework before commenting!
@akayjay6973 ай бұрын
He’s a clown who is only interested in himself
@Atreus-c8n2 ай бұрын
He did. He made it up. He could give two monkeys about us. Bighead lives in Manchester. Says it all. Nothing to do with us anymore.
@John.Pdcsta2 ай бұрын
I agree who would ever leave Sunderland.
@paulstandall47172 ай бұрын
Mickley Gray obviously doesn't know anything about the charges
@danielrees6133 ай бұрын
Would love to see Alan Curbishley brought on the podcast! Lots of similarities with Sam - both brought small clubs up to the Prem, both interviewed for the England job, both managed West Ham... would be great to hear them have a chat about their time as managers
@danofficial1173 ай бұрын
Sounds like Jon Richardson if you don’t watch the video and listen to
@gipende77283 ай бұрын
Spot mate😂 speaks exactly the same
@EFLDebate3 ай бұрын
On Sunderland, I beg to differ!
@Hlekabemgeza3 ай бұрын
You noticed?😳
@KeinanNFFC2 ай бұрын
Am I the only person who doesn't care if City cheated or not? It's their money, they should be allowed to do whatever they like with it. Money doesn't guarantee success, look at Utd at the minute
@ogbonnasam99972 ай бұрын
This is a new Chanel? Fantastic
@gavalarr12 ай бұрын
Majority of the sunderland squad are English or Irish with a few from France now. Ross Stewart went and has been injured and can’t stay fit. So his money was now a steal. Speakman and the model can have its flaws at times but so far since they come in it’s been a hell of a lot more positive.
@philicon3533 ай бұрын
After this season, please come back to Bolton Big Sam.
@nirvanabliss92472 ай бұрын
People don't like when others do well. True that!
@spencersandmark3 ай бұрын
Two man utd fans discussing city 😅😅😅
@k4yser3 ай бұрын
hard to do with city fans, since they dont exist.
@michellemaggs752 ай бұрын
They love city listen 😮
@nigelhaines79003 ай бұрын
The only winners will be the solicotars as normal its all about the money
@daymoscott2 ай бұрын
Fair comments from the gentlemen. Especially Sam’s comments (let independent people judge) on facts It’s a conflict of interest to allow people who have a dog in the fight. Make the decision. When their club stands to benefit from their decisions. Independent hearing will only determine guilt purely on the facts alone. Now influence from the cartel
@barryjones23872 ай бұрын
England must have been struggling for full backs if this ones got Caps ffs. How did that happen?
@chrismiller63173 ай бұрын
So when Arsenal do it it’s spoiler tactics anybody else it’s a great defensive performance
@philicon3533 ай бұрын
@@chrismiller6317 other way round mate.
@davidclarke67183 ай бұрын
Is big Sam ok?
@williamanderson89323 ай бұрын
👑 Sunderland A.F.C. 👑
@SurprisedAnacondaSnake-rh1qt2 ай бұрын
well done Sam,you must be the biggest Pratt in this Uk
@paulstandall47172 ай бұрын
Sam's spot on
@joeok28063 ай бұрын
No tippy tappy ice cream with Sam Allardyce
@garytaf3 ай бұрын
Sam's got to learn to listen, we tune in to listen to what the guests point of view
@cschristan12 ай бұрын
LENIN: "show me the man and i will show you his crime".
@retfordshop5062 ай бұрын
iT TAKE COMITMENT FROM PLAYERS AND MANAGER TO WIN 4 ON THE BOUNCE... NOT ALWAYS MONEY.
@stevehynes15083 ай бұрын
What if city are innocent 😂
@jaysmith28583 ай бұрын
What if lord Lucan didn't kill his children's nanny, or O.J.Simpson didn't kill his ex wife and Ron Goldman? I think everyone knows whether those twi individuals and Man City as a whole are/were guilty or not irrespective of what was or was not proved, or what might be proved or 'disproved'. Money talks. The Government has already admitted that they have talked to some of their UAE counterparts in regards to the charges and any possible punishment. They certainly don't want to upset a major trading partner and investor in the UK.
@glennliddell65942 ай бұрын
Neither of them has the first clue about what charges have been bought against Citeh
@LeeMyers-i3o3 ай бұрын
Wow. What is this a conference version of a podcast!
@Silverblue1213 ай бұрын
Just found this channel - brilliant content
@rumoursofwar46242 ай бұрын
Natalie should carry this more composed approach to pre game broadcasts. Comes across to fan boy, but shows here she can be serious.
@chrismiller63173 ай бұрын
LAWYERS ARE LOVING IT
@retfordshop5062 ай бұрын
💙💙💙
@karljones77043 ай бұрын
Just heard MG version of the the charges. What is he on about. He knows absolutely nothing.
@orialodgesummergreens12553 ай бұрын
He is a bit lost but he has the right idea 115 charges that boil down to 3-5 counts, I don't think the prem have a clue what they looking for either😂
@sch96732 ай бұрын
It is crazy how little Micky knows about Sunderland, considering he supports us. We sold Clarke and replaced him with Mundle, Mundle has a higher ceiling and strangely suits the way we play better. Lacking experiance, apparently. Did we not just sign Chris Mepham a player with championship and Prem experience? Simon Moore around the dressing room in his mid 30s?and Alan Browne who has 400 championship games under his belt? Do we not have Luke O'nien starting every week at 29 years old? Patrick Roberts 27? Are many of our young players not in their 3rd championship seasons here? Ballard his 4th? Talks waffle.
@chrismiller63173 ай бұрын
Why is Rice missing you’ve got that wrong
@barryjones23872 ай бұрын
City should be stripped of their medals and Natalie should be stripped of her clobber
@paulboyne87862 ай бұрын
So how do you explain city’s revenue is high than real madrids!!
@GermanChickenwing2 ай бұрын
Why is Spurs revenue higher than Arsenal, Inter, Ac milan, Juventus, Dortmund? I need an answer quick
@choosyooozy139Ай бұрын
City will never rid the cheater tag in football, no matter how many times they deny it and try keep it hush ..
@andysheppard83463 ай бұрын
26 degrees in spain been nearly 30 in london get over it
@philipturner90872 ай бұрын
Because they have enough money to buy innocence.
@RetroUnlim3 ай бұрын
Mr bung thinks city will get away with it 😂
@trevorstatham44513 ай бұрын
Debunk hum then. Or did you come here looking for what you wanted to hear?
@michellemaggs752 ай бұрын
Pathetic
@davekika73943 ай бұрын
💙🙏
@alterbridgegod3 ай бұрын
Like you mean, like you mean, like you mean, like you mean
@ExpatPropertyGuy3 ай бұрын
He's dyslexic... leave him alone!
@Boblionheart3 ай бұрын
Who is micky gray, by the way?What about getting Jay-Jay on?😮
@PieJesu2443 ай бұрын
Great podcast until you said' I'd love to see them in the Championship'. No you wouldn't! It's bloody miserable living in the shadow of United.
@jacqueskotze90113 ай бұрын
Borringgg - Ask if Sam could manage proper teams... imagine Figo, Zidane etc...
@garethburch27353 ай бұрын
Man City innocent? Debatable..
@SurprisedAnacondaSnake-rh1qt2 ай бұрын
why would you have Sam A on your programme when you know he's iliar @ cheat
@INSIGHT01082 ай бұрын
Guys theyr just opinions, theyv been wrong many times n right many times, theyr not physcics, they have no idea whats ahead 😂
@bernardfox90783 ай бұрын
Sam comments knowing very little. I believe City picked one of the panel members, the premier league another and one is somehow independent.
@Rainer-83 ай бұрын
So he's exactly like everyone else who makes videos about City's charges then 😂
@rumoursofwar46242 ай бұрын
Sam sounds drunk!
@chrisclassical72 ай бұрын
there is a difference between a case not being proven, and proven innocent. everyone and his mother knows city cheated systematically, the question is can the premier league prove what everyone already knows.
@alokkatwal18622 ай бұрын
What everyone knows? Did u know PL was unlawful?
@chrisclassical72 ай бұрын
@@alokkatwal1862 it's 20 teams playing by a mutually agreed set of rules, that city think don't apply to them.
@patsanters27413 ай бұрын
Man city is their a manc in that side ?
@peterferguson62853 ай бұрын
Try Pulling Up The Squad List Foden Lewis Riley Mccatee There Are More But I Can't Be Bothered
@michellemaggs752 ай бұрын
Six played last night including 16 year old Braithwaite. What a fool.
@peterferguson62852 ай бұрын
@@michellemaggs75 But They Really Are Not Obsessed With Us 🔵💙🤣
@michellemaggs752 ай бұрын
@peterferguson6285 Arsenal are the most despicable fans. Every year they've won the league a month earlier. It's September this year absolute mugs. A few are ok. But 95 percent are dreadful. The hypocrisy from Liverpool and utd fans is off the charts. Utd allowed 40 million covid losses,the rest 1 million. Everton points docked. Utd 300 k fine for more serious charges. Liverpool fans hurling cups the list is endless. The pressure is on Arsenal not us.
@hansfyhrqvist77343 ай бұрын
Manchester City must surely get a very heavy penalty for breaching the FFP rules by the dozens. Otherwise there is no justice and the Premier League will lose all of its credibility and respectability.
@spencersandmark3 ай бұрын
The prem league has lost all credibility and damaged its own brand and flagship team in the process ...
@karlos555553 ай бұрын
Have they been found guilty? When did this happen?????
@ricmorris97583 ай бұрын
If they have. Yet to be proven.
@ianbehennah66183 ай бұрын
Another bloody know all Muppet
@michellemaggs752 ай бұрын
It's 7 actual charges.
@Rts223753 ай бұрын
Man city are innocent , is this a comedy.. thanks for the laugh
@steve-en7bm3 ай бұрын
Innocent until proven guilty so stop whinging.
@jamesw35463 ай бұрын
@@steve-en7bm Already been found guilty once but escaped punishment on a time-barred technicality. That's not whinging, it's just a factual statement supported by evidence.
@spencersandmark3 ай бұрын
@jamesw3546 another youtube lawyer 😅😅
@Rts223753 ай бұрын
Man city fans won't be laughing soon they can all go back to supporting man u
@steve-en7bm3 ай бұрын
@@Rts22375 Oh Dear! Are you always this stupid or do you take lessons? Cry me a river.
@Atreus-c8n2 ай бұрын
Anyone gives a crap what gray thinks should think again. He lives in Manchester. End of. His opinion is bollocks to me.
@karlos555553 ай бұрын
Well said by both of them. Non-bias objective chat and opinion by common sense football people. A real welcomed rarity nowadays 👍🏻⚽🩵