The Problem with Candy Cadet (Soothsayer or Sellout?)

[@notrealnamenotatall2476]

A quick note but I'm happy to report that I'm feeling much better after my surgery and recovering at a pretty good pace! Not 100% yet, but definitely on the mend. ^_^

[@azimuddin1890]

Awesome!

[@Constellation_yt]

I hope you get better soon :D

[@dittoexceptshiny]

Glad you made a well recovery, dont know what I would've done without these videos

[@kazumasatou109]

I'm sorry, I didn't know you were going through a surgery. But I'm glad you're recovering

[@lighthope4202]

so awesome to hear, i hope that you make the swiftest of recoveries

[@shumanakazawa]

Imagine being a child at Freddy Fazbears Pizzeria, seeing Candy Cadet, depositing a quarter, getting some candy, and then it tells you the most disturbing story, then just deactivates.

[@yesmansam6686]

Fucked up story time is the spice of life

[@Zegner2435]

and then an airhorn as a sweet finisher (I know its not exclusive to candy cadet nor even diegetic to fnaf but I always found it funny that even with the story, the minigame finishes with an airhorn)

[@Joey-vs4fr]

I was thinking about that How would that work in a Pizzeria 🤔

[@genericmalename6087]

You expect to get traumatized by an animatronic with teeth, but no, it's the glorified gumball machine that does it.

[@maxhay9098]

And it's never happened to anyone else there so nobody believes you and eventually you're gaslit into thinking you made it all up, but every so often whenever you visit you'd swear you heard him finishing a story to some other kid, only it's not quite the same story you must've made up, so you don't put too much stock in it...

[@casualcommenter7152]

During the Fazbear Civil war of ‘93, Candy Cadet was awarded a Purple Heart and promoted to Glucose General. He spent his retired days in a care facility, telling tales of the horrors of war to children who wanted lemon drops.

[@Mr-wd2wn]

Comment approved

[@B_2_weak_sauce]

Ngl better story in this comment than in the actual games

[@itsnotpaul8548]

It specifically has to be lemon drops tho, any other candies he just gives away for free

[@Wizardjones69]

candy cadet is basically the personification of the biggest problem from the series: mystery for the sake of a mystery

[@BenjaminBox]

Scott realized how invested people were in solving the lore and decided to prolong it as long as possible. If he tells the story right away, people might be done with it, and he loses his audience. He also is just writing it as he goes..

[@danang5]

yeah he's good at making the mystery,but sucks at revealing them

[@Wizardjones69]

@@BenjaminBox i think he doesn't want to show the lore because when people see it, they finally realize that the series is poorly written, so scott looses credibility as a writter

[@dopeydoughnut6334]

@@Wizardjones69I mean I think he lost whatever credibility he had as a writer a long time ago.

[@rosegarden9363]

@@dopeydoughnut6334 The Silver Eyes was ok as a standalone story. But the sequels to that book on the other hand shows that Scott isn’t a very good writer or really plans ahead (even with Kira still co-writing the sequels with him). Sure, the robot twist was there from the beginning but it wasn’t well executed and really opens a lot of plot holes. Not to mention now human robot theories are everywhere in the fandom and I’m so tired of seeing them.

[@venomfan2020]

Candy Cadet's the kinda guy to tell you a story about a chicken who went on a mouse-killing spree, which is an obscure parallel to WW2💀

[@puffandflip]

I mean, have you seen chickens? They'll peck each other to death, those bitches are evil

[@dejinnthedjinn5311]

To quote DSAF3 "Don't ask for cryptic stories from a candy robot." Or something to that extent.

[@dejinnthedjinn5311]

Correction he says, "Don't come to your candy dispenser robot in your pizzeria for whimsical parables. Or life advice."

[@Mrboogaloo1234]

he’s just a matpat standin. that’s all he ever was.

[@berserkerciaran]

More like MatPat (and theorycrafter in general) bait.

[@fishnewt1331]

I will give Candy Cadet this. When he shows up, the atmosphere of the game really takes a turn. Even if it is just for a moment, he does a good job having the player question what exactly is going on in whatever game they are playing.

[@potato1094]

As much as the mimic might be a lil controversial to say the least, at least with Candy Cadet (and other aspects of ruin) it as an excellent build up to its reveal

[@Anima--L]

The problem with candy cadet is that he doesn't actually give any candy.

[@DKD1939]

He did, right before he tells you a story in Pizzeria Simulator, a candy comes out of him. (You can see it at 0:49 )

[@ystacalden]

also at 2:34

[@bigpoggers6507]

I mean, he does when fully stocked, 99% of the time in Pizzeria Simulator he gives you candy

[@thefrogthatknows5251]

I've been a major supporter of the idea that Henry is much guiltier than the paragon he gets depicted as. He talks about Afton's crimes as if they were something he *allowed to happen.* I like to think that the three stories are, in some way, explanations of just how the murders affected him. The idea that he knew Afton would do it, and that he let him. The idea that Afton had broken in and taken the lives of those he tried to protect. The idea that his efforts to save them only ensured their deaths. Why were they killed at Freddy's? Of course, the security puppet would never let them be taken elsewhere. He had, effectively, locked them in that building with a man who he knew was dangerous. Why did he have the Afton Schematics. How did he get them. *That isn't something you just stumble across, why does he know how they work.*

[@owo4288]

The fact that he does nothing with William Afton when he become Springtrap instead of bring him to justice make me question his moral. Doesn't help that he doesn't even talk to Michael about his father before PS.

[@MysteryKar]

@@owo4288 the image of afton being arrested, put through trial and sent to prison while being a cyber zombie stuck in a fursuit is quite comical

[@justaperson4656]

I personally think he was actively involved, but feigning ignorance. I think Henry made the fun times, but convinced himself the remnant was stray animals or something of the like so he could pretend he didn't hand William the knife

[@cosgrovev2794]

Candy Cadet is gonna have some real competition when his greatest rival, Steak Seargent walks in

[@cloudy7263]

he tells a bunch of very direct things about the lore, but 50% of the words he say are lies, in a 50 word sentence, 25 words are false

[@Zecteiro]

@@cloudy7263 If you change words to sentences, I could see Scott adding it on the next game, sadly.

[@victoriavidaud]

Dude I’d put in a coin to get a steak, heck yeah! 😂

[@minerturtle45]

Pizza Private better watch out

[@arcticdino1650]

If I'm remembering one of the TetraBitGaming Ruin Cut Content videos right, Candy Cadet's story originally would have said the woods were full of dangerous animals, and in an earlier version of the map you would have to pass by the original fnaf 1 gang after Candy Cadet's room. What does this add to the conversation... nothing. Just a fun fact

[@weebjeez]

Actually... that DOES add somethign to the conversation: specifically, it adds that the story being told by Candy Cadet might actually be about Ruin's protag. Similarly, in Pizzaria Simulator you get a story that could be referring to Henry's plan to burn all the animatronics (unknowingly binding their remnant all together into a single form). Perhaps what we should be taking from this is that Candy Cadet is predicting the future by examining stories it knows?

[@tonysonic456]

Candy Cadet is representative of FNAF as a whole. A vague mess of ideas that has potential to be a good story but refuses to give any concrete answers, and as a result, we're only left with fan theories that vary so wildly from each other that I wouldn't blame anyone for saying that FNAF doesn't have a story. There's an ancient rule in storytelling call "Show, Don't Tell" that dictates that it's better to show what's going on in your story so the audience can be properly hooked, and doing the opposite, "Tell, Don't Show", isn't going to be nearly as effective since the audience likely won't feel the impact of anything that happens. Candy Cadet however, and by extension FNAF as a whole, take that a few steps backward by opting for a new rule. "Imply, Never Tell". You can't say anything in FNAF is absolute. You can only hint at it otherwise people will get upset. Well, I'd argue that people are already upset by that rule by now. Bendy proved this by opting for that same rule in Ink Machine, and players weren't exactly thrilled. Then Dark Revival came out and went with the "Show, Don't Tell" rule, and everyone was much happier. TLDR; I'm tired of the vagueness of FNAF. I don't want inklings of what could be a story for others to finish writing because Scott is either lazy or too scared to upset anyone. I want a REAL story that means something.

[@_Berserk_984]

Yeah, the vagueness has really only damaged the franchise. The lore hints are so unclear and open to interpretation that we can't even concretely establish many important events.It's like someone threw a 100 somewhat related loose ends and expected us to tie it up for them. Like you said the games follow the, "Tell, Don't show" policy. And even when it tells, it's never clear about it. It just gets frustrating after some time. Honestly, I would love prequel games of FNAF that go back cover individual stories of fan-favorite characters in detail. That they SHOW the horrific things these characters and people around have gone through.

[@RFDN0]

The issue was only further agrovated when all of the methods to make what little is shown questionable became fixtures. So even the little we did see now can easily just not be real.

[@aliengirlnearyou]

I wish that for the 10th anniversary this year they just gave us a short game that definitely clears up the first four games or the core events like the MCI and CC incident. I'm also tired of relying on the books for lore that's not even consistent, it should be available in the games. I have a hard time believing that Into The Pit is going to clear up certain events and the names associated with them. I know Scott didn't expect FNAF to become such a sensation so maybe he didn't really think too much about the lore, but it's been 10 years and we got a crazy amount of games and books, there's no way they don't have a timeline of events figured out, we need SOME answers. I still don't know what Toy Chica missing her beak means and that was one of if not the first direct hint we got that then led to the Dream Theory, but now with all the sci-fi stuff and the scary gas thing they put in nothing makes sense, they over complicated it for the sake of building up mystery while we still don't have a timeline or confirmed names.

[@JunkieSama]

My thoughts EXACTLY 👏 !! While I do enjoy theorizing and types of analysis content like this video, FNAF absolutely suffers from a lack of concrete details. I feel like Scott had the right idea intially, but he, and now Steel Wool, seem to either be too afraid to reveal truths about the series, OR (and I feel this is HIGHLY likely) are keeping the status quo because they know that theorizing is a huge part of the appeal to FNAF, and therefore is what will make them the most money. That's how they get away with releasing unfinished games like Security Breach 😑 .

[@succubitch1054]

he's not too lazy or too scared, he can't do it because despite doing this for 10 years his writing skills have not improved even a little

[@ashemabahumat4173]

The mom could've been the Mxes program, too. It warned Cassie to the best of its ability and tried to stop her, but she still went through with following "Gregory".

[@your_mate_era7067]

Candy Cadet is honestly one of my favourites. I love the design, the goofy voice, and the weirdly dark vague story hints. I remember getting one around when Pizza Sim came out late at night not knowing what he was or did, and being so confused as to what just left that little robot's head.

[@thenumberonebestcreaturetobe]

Please be nice to my child. He is perfect and precious. Lovely little man.

[@profsrlojohn635]

Honestly, I’ve always nursed a bit of a grudge against Candy Cadet simply for being yet another non-commital way of delivering us information in a sea of others. I get it, that vaugeness is part of the fun, but there’s a point where there’s too much non-commital information in this franchise. At some point we need something, anything we can hold onto. It’s like we’re building a card tower with a mix of yu-gi-oh, playing, and tarot cards not wanting to fit together really, and we’re not even sure if these are actually playing cards or maybe lego bricks. Imagine if, instead of candy cadet to deliver this information, we got the Player/michael’s notebook, and each night we’d be able to read more entries. Sure, it’s still technically not firm, due to an unreliable narrator, but it’s a far more clear and reliable source than the confusing ramblings of a glorified gumball machine. Not to mention it would give some characterization to a character (Michael or the Player) that desperately needs it. I dunno about you, but that feels like a much more clean and fitting way to deliver the information.

[@diarawisteria2218]

Same. I also hate that he's the main evidence for the Missing Children = Molten Freddy theory, because of the existence of the scrapped Animatronic 01 and just...wanting the Funtimes to be their own thing. I don't think the theory actually holds up, but it's so prevalent because otherwise, you have to acknowledge that the Missing Children are repeatedly brought-up, but don't exist in Pizz Sim.

[@damkylan3]

​@@diarawisteria2218 He isn't the main evidence for that. Henry's speech in the Insanity Ending is the main evidence for it, since he is obviously referring to "Follow Me" when he says William "led them there AGAIN" and "overpowered them AGAIN", and then at the end of it, he says he needs to "call them all back, together in one place". He does not pivot from talking about the MCI before saying it. And where could they be? Molten Freddy, the one described as having the most remnant out of everyone present. "Fascinating... what they have become". Oh, and there's also Fourth Closet, coming out after FFPS and showing William literally extracting remnant from a melted amalgamation of the Classics' endoskeletons and then injecting it into Funtime Freddy and giving it life for the first time. He also says repeatedly that they now serve a "greater purpose", an important turn of phrase considering Henry says in FFPS that the MCI are "now set to *new purpose* and used in ways I never thought imaginable." Oh, and Help Wanted shows the endos of the Classics burning in a furnace. Candy Cadet may as well not even be a factor. The virgin Candy Cadet vs. the chad FFPS/Fourth Closet/Help Wanted triple whammy. lol

[@Here_is_Waldo]

Agreed. They've tried to hard to make the game mysterious, that it feels like there's just questions with no answers.

[@Wizardjones69]

5:16 i think its afton yes, by the fact that afton wanted a "family" in silver eyes, he pretty much makes it obvious that the animatronics with children souls are his "family" but in william's mind, the burglar was henry, but the kind man and the burglar are william afton in reality but as i said, william think its henry's fault, so he places the burglar as henry

[@shinyrayquaza9]

I wonder if scotts iffyness on book cannon is him not remembering lore he wrote for games and the books, mixing them together Also realizing scott has no idea how snakes work

[@ThexVaultxTech]

Book authors are allowed to write what's needed for a good story, other than themes they're unrelated to the games. wdym he doesn't understand snakes? If you leave cats in a snake they'll be dead and withered.... Sounds pretty accurate. Surely you didn't forget that the stories are not literally true or think that the kittens are implied to be okay?

[@Alkeeros]

@ThexVaultxTech I believe snakes only eat like once a week and spend the intervening time digesting. Also, unless he had a really big anaconda, could it swallow a whole kitten? I agree that nothing Candy Cadet is literal, though. What about stories like GGY that seem to be directly about Gregory form Security Breach? Is that someone writing the theme of mind control with several direct references to the game just to be confusing?

[@j.a.m.m]

Tbh for the Ruin story, it could be about mental growth, rather than physical growth from aging. Like, considering that at the end of SB Vanessa escapes Glitchtrap's control, that'd mean there's a pretty huge mental growth on her part between that and HW/Ruin, even in that short of a timespan. But yeah, I think in times like these, we must remember Mr. Hippo's wise words, sometimes a story is just a story. I mean, it does seem to apply perfectly in that context. Anyways, great vid as always, and glad you're feeling better!

[@sgt.zaitsev287]

Candy Cadet is where Willy has been the entire time, trust me.

[@modelsnstuffreveiws6628]

The kitten story to me matched how our boy william had this snake within him (his desire to murder and experiment) that he couldn’t get rid of, at random one of his children got murked by his snake, which was manifested in his animatronics, it wasn’t literally left open but it was in some senses an eventuality that his machines would murder his children as he warned them but never truly put the snake away to stop this from happening in essence allowing it to happen. In his guilt he put her back together in baby.

[@sweethistortea]

There's something oddly comforting about Cadet's TTS voice...

[@MusiciansRule07]

Like the Mediocre Melodies, Candy Cadet has definitely earned his place in the fandom as both Meme Fuel and a source of Lore (through implications) but I'm kinda over his cryptic with a twinge of EdgeLord characterization. Although, I was also annoyed when he was used as an Exposition spewer in Ruin and HW2 so maybe I'm just never satisfied, LMAO. That being said, The Woman and The Keys story is one of my favorite things from the franchise and I won't take its impact away from him and I like the Letting Go interpretation you shared with us. I still think it's about Charlie and her naivety blended with determination to Save Them led to more harm being done (but she learned! She grew up in the Afterlife like she didn't get to and learned, at least according to Sire Squawks!) but new ideas and Theories are always welcome. Overall, I just keep Mr. Hippo's gentle Roast of Theorists and Occam's Razor in mind when it comes to him and keep it moving.

[@syweb2]

7:10 One thing to note is that the snake is only said to eat one kitten, with no repetition of the action claimed or implied, only that time passed. Snakes don't eat very frequently, only once every several days, so that one kitten would sustain it for a weak. Plus, the boy is only said to put THE kitten together, being the single one that was eaten.

[@notrealnamenotatall2476]

But that would be even more confusing. It would mean it follows the same 5 becomes 1 format but one becomes one. I think more likely it IS the same 5 becomes 1 and that Scott wasn't thinking of how often snakes eat, as it's not a literal snake, it's a metaphorical one.

[@chibacityblues2003]

Kinda crazy that the 8-Bit mini games were the clearest FNAF ever got about telling it’s lore… AND THAT WAS ALREADY VAUGE AS HELL!!!

[@genericname2747]

Everytime Fnaf has cryptic lore, my life shortens by one year. I am a ghost now.

[@GexRexFan99]

Candy Cadet design is the best one in the entire franchise Change my mind

[@AndyToons64]

Finally someone that gets it

[@Kirbyfan10]

Objection: mangle

[@azimuddin1890]

Decillionth! May I have a reward? I want…a Krabby Patty! Candy Cadet: Now I will tell you a story. There was a sponge who lived in a pinnacle under the sea.

[@Brite-um2tq]

SpongeBob SquarePants!

[@azimuddin1890]

@@Brite-um2tq Yee!

[@notrealnamenotatall2476]

🍔 Be careful! They go straight to the thighs!

[@azimuddin1890]

@@notrealnamenotatall2476 SpongeBob: And then you blow up! Squidward: : | ! Lesson learned: never eat too many Keabby Patties.

[@azimuddin1890]

@@notrealnamenotatall2476 Wait, I asked for Keabby Patties…oh well.

[@Lovinia1]

I can kinda draw the conclusion that he’s referring to the plot to pizzeria simulator. The whole plot is gathering all the victims into one place to finally lay them to rest in one mass grave. He’s not telling stories, he’s warning us of our demise.

[@skyenight-by8yh]

I honestly never paid attention to him that much, but he was always a somewhat enigma to me in the franchise. Ironic, I know. 😅

[@ender01o66]

I think it's possible that Candy Cadet was made by Fazbear Entertainment to cover up the events of the past by telling stories that are 1:1 opposite versions of the events that actually did happen. For example, in the keys story, instead of it being a women, it's a young child (since the spirits are children, not adults), and the key, or "piece," are split into five, five "pieces." This ends up saving five children, at the expense of one, the Crying Child. When read like this, it seems to be a variation of ShatterVictim. I figured this'd make more sense. As for the HW2 story, it seems to be about Glitchtrap, who was lured Vanny and trapped by the one they're working for. Glitchtrap was said to have only a fraction of their code remaining, so, instead of being a young girl who aged, they'd be a fully grown entity that was stripped down into a small piece. They young boy would be a grown woman, Vanny, who leads Glitchtrap into a trap, as we see in HW2's ending, with the old witch being a young boy, most likely being TOYSNHK, or whoever the Nightmarionne imagery belongs to, who Vanny works for. That's just a barely in-depth example of two of the stories, I figured it'd be a pretty interesting angle to look at.

[@SpikyEaredPichu96]

The Ruin and HW2 stories could have another meaning if you take out the genders; someone being lured into letting a monster out of the basement? Cassie being lured down by the mimic. Someone returning to slay someone who tried to slay them, being tricked into walking right back into their clutches? Could be the HW2 protag, whether you believe it to be Cassie's dad, previous programmer Jeremy, or some other near-victim of something related to Fazbear Entertainment (especially considering the files suggesting that we were supposed to be following voice logs from Vanessa throughout the game). I also heard someone theorize that the Pizza Sim stories are all meant to imply that the five missing children souls are all in Molten Freddy, basically hammering it in that 5 Became 1. Though it does seem a bit weird that you would need three stories to make the same point.

[@grapefruittango4707]

the hw2 one could also be about michael, getting tricked into being scooped in sister location, left with a permanent scar as literal purple guy, then getting lured by henry into the pizza sim location, a LITERAL OVEN

[@ultimate-phenix]

Molten MCI also doesn't make sense chronologically. Because, WHEN William would have made them into the Funtimes ? He destroyed the FNAF 1 Gang. The Toys aren't there and the OG are on stage so it has to be FNAF 1 restaurant. So for the theory to be true, he must have made them into the Funtimes around FNAF 1... But Michael would had already been scooped by now since he was already fired for his "odor" back in FNAF 2. So William couldn't made them into the Funtimes since they already escaped years before.

[@SpikyEaredPichu96]

@@ultimate-phenix I think I always assumed that the bad odor in fnaf1 came from tampering with the animatronics filled with decaying corpses? If not just entirely made up to try and fire Mike legitimately. And as with many things in the series, there's no way to know if the closed Freddy's location that the hand unit mentioned is the Security Puppet Freddy's or the Fnaf1 Freddy's. Also, the theory I heard regarding Molten MCI uses Henry's log from the Insanity ending of Pizza Sim as a way to describe what happened: Afton using "his old tricks" to lure the animatronics off their stage (potentially what the purple Freddy is meant to represent, which makes more sense to me personally than Shadow Freddy luring the animatronics to their doom) so he can dismantle them as close to the hidden room as possible, taking their remnant (in other words, the souls of the MCI kids) and "setting them to new purpose" by using them to power the funtimes. There's no indication that the fnaf 3 mini games all happen in one night, after all, he could've been going back over the course of weeks. Not to mention the more recently found endos in the furnace in Help Wanted alluding to Molten MCI, too. "Are they (the kids?) still aware? I hope not." It's not a perfect explanation, it doesn't explain why the spirits were able to scare Afton into the springlock suit if they were stuck inside the funtimes, but if nothing else I could see that being what Scott was trying to imply at the time of Pizza Sim. And theories don't have to be perfect, y'know? The way the storytelling of this series goes, we're probably never going to know the one definitive answer, so why not just have fun with it?

[@SpikyEaredPichu96]

​@@ultimate-phenix I also like NimoClancey's way of viewing it where 1-3 and 4-Pizza Sim are their own separate trilogies, which I'm sure isn't what Scott intended at all, but it alleviates some of the pressure of trying to tie absolutely everything into one another. 😅

[@ultimate-phenix]

@@SpikyEaredPichu96 I still think it doesn't work, not only because of the spirits presence but also because of the Security Logbook. If you don't know, it was released just before FFPS (NotRealName talked about it in her Logbook Chica video) and it's the origin of some of the most accepted theories like Golden Duo, the name of "Cassidy" for the Golden Freddy Spirit or just the idea that Mike Schmidt IS Michael Afton. Well, in this logbook, Mike canonically is responding to a survey made by Faz Ent in order to work for them. He used his nickname "Mike" so we can assume it was around FNAF 1. And he already did some reference to SL like the fact he would prefer money AND ABSOLUTELY NOT Exotic butter. So FNAF 1 Mike was already scooped and even if William destroying the bots can happen between nights... The fact is that we see their remains on the floor every time so no one has repaired them. So, since all of them were in working order during FNAF 1, William could only have destroyed them AFTER Mike's shift; But... In the end... I think you're right. Theories doesn't have to be "perfect". And Scott isn't the best writer so it's possible he really wanted to tell us Molten MCI was canon and just never thought of the inconsistencies on the timeline. He did write the games as it goes and never had a clear plan after all... It's just that I saw so many people being almost dogmatic about Molten MCI that I overreact when the conversation is about it. But yeah, as long as everyone understands that 70% of the "canon" is just the fanon that shouts the loudest, yeah, let's just go with our own interpretation and have fun. I may have been to adamant and I'm sorry about it.

[@VoxlovMaverick]

I'm so glad you're feeling better after your surgery ❤

[@sorrel_leaf_vespers]

That has to be the most threatening "Candy. Candy. Candy." I have ever heard. Anyway I'm going to pick this guy up and shake him aggressively until he gives me a straight answer. And then fix him up because being ruined for two games in a row seems like a disservice to his goober-ness. The pizza with fries and mozzarella sticks does sound good though, but I'm not paying $50 for that.

[@Alkeeros]

I'm glad that you both enjoy the story and have criticisms, and you're not over the top "this sucks and has always sucked!" It feels very fair and expresses frustrations we've all felt

[@notrealnamenotatall2476]

Thank you! ^_^

[@RDWheat]

I've been so excited for this! Glad you're feeling better!

[@tartra]

The second story could be about William as the boy, and a metaphor for his research/curiosity/urge to kill. William doesn't want to give up that curiosity, because the secrets it might crack open could be amazing, but he can't bring himself to choose a victim. Ultimately, he just *goes* for it and kills whatever kid he kills. But he feels bad afterwards, and either tries to put the body back where it died at Freddy's (remember that "nothing was ever proven in court" thing from HW1?), and that just keeps happening until he goes through all five victims.

[@Lolo-ti9ob]

It's cool to see someone taking this angle, rather than the "We SoLvEd FnAf" route, but no hate to those creators either, it's just refreshing to find something different! Thanks for the vids!

[@Adventist1997]

Maybe Candy Cadet is like Mr. Hippo telling us that some stories are just stories that don't have a specific meaning? 🤔

[@ouichkaj3365]

As much as i love candy cadet his stories are confusing as hell

[@lockout5731]

candy cadet the lore keeper and the most sweet thing in the whole series

[@JSheerXeno54]

i dont think Candy Cadet is meant to be taken too literally. I think we're only supposed to take the general idea from it. the Pizza Sim stories are 5 things becoming 1 thing. i think it's referring Molten Freddy. Who is the present day version of the original 5 kids being killed... or at least what's left of them in the present day (present as of Pizza Sim) as the other remnants of the 5 children have since passed on. Molten Freddy being all that's left. The ruin story is about being tricked by a familiar voice. foreshadowing that Gregory... wasn't Gregory. And the Help Wanted 2 story, if generalized, is simply someone who was fooled once, is fooled again with a different tactic. which i think is probably a reference to the fact that help wanted 2 ends with the player character being taken by the AR world... just like what happened to Vanessa in help wanted 1. i think that story is a bit more meta in the fact that we have the potential to do the same mistake we did in the first game with the 2nd game. which of course is doomed to happen anyway cus ruin proves the bad ending is the true ending. i think that's what Candy Cedet's HW2 story is all about. as for the last story... i have no idea XD honestly that one showed up out of left field... but to generalize it... a group of people missing out on something and died because of it... who knows... maybe it's another meta jab at the community XD

[@QuestionDeca]

Huh, Pizzaria Simulator/UCN Candy Cadet has a different head then the Ruin/Help Wanted 2 Candy Cadet(s), Pizzaria Simulator has only a visor with flashing lights, whereas the other (two?) has the lights around the entire circumference of the head. (Another difference is the lack of those four large obvious screwhead/boltheads)

[@notrealnamenotatall2476]

I noticed that! But I think it's more just an updated model than a totally different character.

[@QuestionDeca]

@@notrealnamenotatall2476 Honestly, I think too many theorists take that opinion about too many of the differences between FNAF games (especially Help Wanted 1 forward), but Candy Cadet is the most likely for it to be true. (Though the horror that would flow through the theorist community if none of the differences were redesigns would be facinating.)

[@GendoRokabundi]

@@QuestionDeca below his left wheel, it says prototype

[@monstrdog7031]

With the woman and the 5 keys, I agree with it probably being about charlie, but I wonder if it meant that she could of brought one kid back like baby presumably did for Michael. For the ruin story, it works for Gregory being the mother and Cassie the little boy too The young woman and witch I read as Cassie's dad, if he's hw1 Jeremy- his first escape being with surviving the guillotine slicer but left with a scar but dies the second time

[@lpfan4491]

Considering it is about a key to freedom, it could be that she could have brought piece to any one of them if she focussed on it, but she tried helping everyone and only ended up trapping them in the end.

[@Bofrab]

This unrelated to the topic of the video, but I really appreciate that your video is segmented into specific parts. So many videos I watch are either not at all, or when they are the segments don’t make any sense and are just labeled in chapters.

[@Kagutsuchi13]

I'm glad your surgery went well and you're recovering okay! I love your content and I always watch your new videos when I see them. My only note, which I hope doesn't come off too nitpicky, is that you say "perchance" when the word is "penchant" - I've noticed it in a couple of videos. "He has a penchant for doing that." Perchance is used more like "Could you do this for me, perchance?"

[@Andy_and_the_book]

Based on how the kids/animatronics viewed William in the FNAF movie, the first story could be game William’s version of events that he told the kids before they turned on him

[@guerra3710]

My favorite interpretation of the third story is that its about afton, in an attempt to put his son back together, he ensures the deaths of 5 kids

[@username5155]

I was watching this, and I asked myself the silly little question of “How did Ruined Candy Cadet get where he is?” Little did I know this would lead to me realizing that Security Breach shows the vent system FNaF 6 takes place in is BELOW the Pizza Place, a detail I have never thought about at all and I have so many questions but it is past midnight and I am too tired to answer them myself.

[@BigBrainFnafGuy]

11:50 that pronunciation of "lullaby" is so satisfying.

[@saeklin]

I suspect the FFPS Candy Cadet is a meta reference to Scott's frustrations over trying to reconcile the fragmented lore up to that point. But in Security Breach and its sequels, CC is there to shed light on the events leading up to the game. So in Ruin is tells how Gregory was lured down to the Mimic when it impersonated Vanessa. HW2's Candy Cadet clears up the confusion about who the protagonist is. It's the same exact protagonist from HW1 lol. Vanessa/Vanny had escaped the oven aka the chamber Glitchtrap locked her soul in, then came back and found herself trapped yet again in the mask.

[@Xainos28]

16:02 So for me, I think it just fits more with Vanessa. The story plays off to be like retelling where she got infected in HW, then later on in the therapy cd's, she says she compartmentalize him as she was freeing herself, which then gregory lures her back to being fully taken by glitchtrap which explains her mood change and when patient 46 was introduced in the cd's.

[@addambelmont3050]

Candy Cadet is really just bait from the writers to lure in theorists to fill in the gaps of their story. They then pick and choose the ideas the like the most to make canon...if they remember to that is.

[@anonymous-db6gp]

Let's go, new video! Also, I just realised candy cadet uses the generic male text to speech.

[@bvdf84]

I haven't watched the video but the title and the tumbnail is very promissing edit: i watched the video and YES candy cadet's stories always felt somehow weird. Like they fit the stories in-game but there was just something either extra or missing. "Is this detail important? Is this just added to make the story sound more real? is this story about this event or the other one?" I kinda felt like he was theory bait to keep fans busy after fnaf 6 until scott figured out where the series should go from there

[@PaigeLTS05]

If anyone remembers Identity V's Melodas Estate Investigation/Stormy Night Surprise event, you'll remember that the characters told stories. I feel like the Candy Cadet stories are like that. They vaguely parallel each of the characters with a fantasy story, but remember: the monstrous bird was the woman telling the story about the girl that got ate by the bird. That's how I take these stories. Especially the Ruin and HW2 stories. Cassie is probably the basement monster, and Vanessa is 100% the witch (we even see the 'witch' get her meal in the PQ4 ending, with Vanny crushing glitchtrap). Also, the kittens might not be kids, but security guards. It's about Henry letting William keep hiring night gaurds, despite knowing that they will die. He lets William hire a guard, the guard dies. Though this may also be about Michael and the Fazbear's Frights guard, as the story of the woman with the keys is an oddly prophetic parallel to Henry burning everything at the end of FNAF 6. But the keys story may likely be about Micheal burning down Fazbear's Frights horror attraction, believing it to be the way to free the kids, only resulting in that not being the means to their freedom and the kids being stuck or free being based on the minigames, not the fire. The story about the man adopting fivr kids is more likely about Charlotte. She kept the dead kids safe after the location closed, but William broke in and destroyed the animatronics. Charlotte probably made molten Freddy or the amalgam.

[@Afton-ph9uw]

Candy Candet:🤖😊🍬 Candy Candets stories:💀

[@Agent-8]

I just though of a solution to the key problem 1) save the children 2 create a mold of the exit key 3) exit the room with all the children 4) profit :D

[@helfire14]

After cross-referencing all of his stories, I've noticed a reoccurring quality to them - not every inch of each story is reflective of the events they're alluding to. There are placeholder elements in each one that are essentially red herrings. After cutting out certain elements from each story, each one ends up nigh-perfectly reflecting an event that actually occurred in the canon. So they're stories for people who are already in the know of what they mean - the only people who know what to cut out and interpret in the first place. Or, at least that's the intent. Which means they're probably not stories that provide new information and more stories that make you think; "Wait, why does this random candy dispenser robot know about that?" It's sort of in the same vein as the fruit punch and lemonade clowns occasionally threatening to cut your throat, it's an attempt to unnerve and perplex, as well as to give Candy Cadet his own character as a being who knows things he has no right knowing. The only times he gives information on something that we 'shouldn't' already know is in Ruin when he talks about the Mimic.

[@Handlelesswithme]

Looking back this now knowing Michael was the Crying child Candy Cadet makes a bit more sense The Crying Child considered the 5 main animatronics as his friends, as in people he cared for

[@AlfredDoesFeet]

Anyone else notice that in ruin some worker just decided to re-design candy cadet even thought HE WAS LITTERALLY BURNED 😂😂😂😂😂 Edit: in 8 hours, IT GOT A HEART

[@weebjeez]

The problem with Candy Cadet is that, in a game where lore is hidden EVERYWHERE, I don't like that it's hidden in a robot that tells stories... Is a take? It's one I don't get, but the video was entertaining regardless~! Kinda wanna see more now.

[@notrealnamenotatall2476]

I meant less that it's only hidden in a robot and more that there's story details we should be seeing, and we shouldn't have the only plot details delivered through the robot, you know? And thank you!

[@robxholicfoxyfan8552]

So my take on the Help Wanted 2 story, at least for the Vanessa angle, is this. Vanessa likely is an Afton or Afton Parallel. Considering Micheal would have been old father or grandpa age, maybe a cousin or something that shared an abusive household cycle... Tangents aside, Vanessa as a little girl could have been scarred by her father mentally, making her have daddy issues and obey under threat of grave consequences. As she became an adult and got taken over partially by Glitchtrap, which itself was a mimicry of Afton himself (also no doubt an abusive dad), so Vanessa obeyed but still fought control. Gregory, being a small boy into video games, and likely someone who before Security Breach had a family (because how would he become Patient 46 without a parent having a connection with FE?) and probably got his brain more thoroughly hacked by Glitchtrap. Then he helped the Mimic take over Vanessa the rest of the way, and then Gregory somehow got released from control or both have an alter ego. After SB, Vanessa adopts Gregory and the rest is basically history. Also, it could be Cassie's Dad/Bonnie Bro. He may be an old dad but men can have kids when they're basically 80 so it's not impossible. He was probably one of the employees who was killed by Gregory, and was scarred for life from Fredbear's (or even the bite of 87 if anyone goes by that logic). If Bonniebro was a technician he likely was in similar situations as Micheal except with less actual idea of what was happening. Plus with the Fall fest situation, it makes sense that if William wanted to cheap out on fire hazard prevention in the Circus, Bonniebro likely was the laser tag kid along with the other bullies. (while Crying Child would have been the kid on the Ferris Wheel as we read in the survival Logbook.) And (both) attractions, as well as every other thing at Fall fest caught fire. Bonniebro, Micheal, the bullies, Crying Child, and more were likely traumatized by such a massive burndown of Fallfest, with Fredbear's, Freddy's, Circus Baby's, and more all just compiling trauma for everyone around.

[@DaveMiller6042]

My favorite part of FNAF lore is that Michael canonically bought him

[@iwannabeyahtzee8056]

The most popular interpretation ive heard of The Kittens and the Snake story is that its an allegory for William and Henrys relationship. The kittens represent children and the snake represents William. Henry loved children but he also loved his friend William. And just like the boy knew that the snake could be dangerous but loved it too much to get rid of it, Henry knew something was off about William but he didn't want to lose his friend. His inaction and willful ignorace led to the death of the children.

[@gaymedievaldruid]

Re: help wanted 2, was Vanessa maybe an original Freddy's kid? She escaped Afton's original spree, but was understandably left with a scar, and then having grown up wanted to face her demons- did William do anything notable that might make her think he was still around? Or did she just hear about how shady FE was and got involved? Either way, the oven door shut on her. Only missing thread is the little boy that lured her

[@ManiacClif]

21:36 I think that story is about the FNAF 6 gang, the family is known as Molten Freddy, Scrap Baby, Scraptrap and Lefty. The meal is known as the kids. Their opportunity that they missed as to kill the kids and they missed that bc it was a trap that Henry and Michael set up. And they died due to the fire. So that story is talking about FNAF 6 ending.

[@thestickopia4619]

5:20 Tit mouse Thats a new one I havent heard before

[@yamipatchi]

if you switch the genders around in the monster in the basement story, it sounds like Elizabeth and baby's story. A father tells his daughter not to go into the basement, and the monster lures the daughter into it, and kills her. Baby being such a manipulative character I feel like the monster learning the lullaby could symbolize baby's manipulation.

[@micheal4526]

Scott probably wrote each story to have that ONE detail that keeps each story from being a 1 to 1 parable about a lore event, but didn’t realize it ruined each story as a lore hint by making it so easy to say anything about these.

[@TheWizardMus]

I thibk the biggest difference between Candy Cadet's stories and how they're used is that the original Pizza Sim ones are extremely metaphorical, rather than trying to tell us what really happened vaguely. At no point did anyone actually have to offer up a kid to Afton and chose to do nothing like in the Snake Story, but it gives us a decent potential look into Micheal's headspace and his regrets. I think thats actually the throughline of the Pizza Sim stories, the regrets the characters facing Afton have.

[@GametheGame]

I love Candy Cadet and his cryptic stories. Probably the best addition to the series. Hope he comes back later to tell us stories for quarters. Stories that may or may not be a summary of what happened in the series or not.

[@bananashoplifter3440]

Fnaf's lore/implications sometimes makes me shrug aggressively. Glad to hear you're feeling better tho!

[@CHEESEPUFF_7]

OH HECK YEAH! I'm early to the video about Candy Cadet! Candy Cadet has one of my favourite designs

[@eduardoaguero1220]

This is one I've wanted for a long time, Candy Cadet is one of the more notable characters in Pizza sim and I liked how odd he was, lost my mind when he returned in ruin. And I agree his game would be more fun if it wasn't our only bit of direct story now, like imagine fnaf 3 being told through a text to speech candy dispenser. Still great video! A lot more animation in this one which I liked!

[@Teethmafia]

“Basically exposition hidden behind a riddle built on a wibbily wobbily foundation that someone else could easily misunderstand the details” is literally the entire lore design ethos post fnaf3.

[@scarlet2847]

I've always interpreted the key story as someone failing to save one because they wanted to save 5, about how sometimes too much compassion is bad, a short explanation tho

[@redtobluerose6020]

At this point in the franchise, I think it's become more "How can we change this as least as possible and still get money for the same story?" And less, "This is a unique, hidden lore driven indie horror series." FNaF seems like it's taken a nose dive into public appeal, and the story ideas are recycled to fit new minds with the same premises but with more convoluted turns

[@zekromfan1]

I read the second story like this: Henry knew William for a long time, and through that time he realized that deep inside William was a troubled man who had terrible desires. But even still Henry also knew that William had some good in him, he was very smart, he could charm his way out of a bad situation, William was far too good at looking good in public. So as a way to keep William bound to a place, a way to keep him from doing something terrible, Henry opened Fredbear’s with William. He knew very well that William had a voracious appetite when it came to things, from machines to business, William was always after more, bigger and better prospects. Fredbear’s was like a giant cage, a place where William could release his inner machinations without letting his dark impulses take over. Fredbear’s for a time was successful, no doubt in part because of William’s charisma and the many machines he made. But eventually William grew too big for that cage and it was only a matter of time before he tried to get out, then one day an opportunity presented itself, a way for William to free himself both metaphorically and physically. After he killed Charlie, and the Crying Child died, William was no longer allowed at Fredbear’s due to the police investigation. He was free, and that one child wasn’t enough to satisfy his cravings, he needed more, so that’s what he did. Now freed from Fredbear’s and Henry’s watchful eye, William went to Freddy’s and the MCI happened. Maybe it was willful ignorance on Henry’s part, but for whatever reason he felt regret for his choices and tried to make it right in the end, but his definition of making it right wasn’t what was desired by those he was trying to help. In the end it was self servicing, a way for him to relieve himself of the guilt he felt without questioning whether or not he should simply leave things alone. Ultimately his efforts creating a monstrosity that desecrated the graves of those he wronged through inaction. He created a monster in an attempt to bring peace to those who died. I think that by reading into the last bit we can gleam some of the story we didn’t see, for example what tearing the snake open represents in universe would be Henry found all of the broken animatronic parts that William left before he got springlocked and he put them together. IE; maybe Lefty was created using pieces of the old animatronics melted into new shapes, it would also explain why Charlie felt comfortable enough around it to let her guard down and get caught. Or given new lore, it could also mean that those old pieces are stuck in the Tangle/Blob. Granted this is just how I read it given the context of Pizzeria Simulator’s story.

[@BigBoiBleu]

My head cannon is that Jeremy is the woman, and he has the scar from his previous dealing with Glitchtrap (the witch)

[@wasntdeleted]

I honestly think that first story (about man, orphans and potential threat) is about William Afton and him living double life while being constantly afraid of himself getting to kids he desperately wanted to entertain and care after via animatronics, failing and then probably getting caught red-handed (knock on the door) second (boy, snake and kittens) is about Henry closing his eyes on inconsistencies of Williams behaviours, but then deciding to finish it all in Sister Location and "cut open the snake", while accidentally getting all "kittens" in one big agony mass instead Third (young woman sealed in melting keys together to free children) is definitely about Puppet failing to actually freeing all children like it was interpreted in the video Custom Night phrases "He pieced the remains together, he promised them to never leave them, but he could not choose" seems to be highlighting the relationship between William and his children as he is being tormented, first part refers to "I will put you back together" and the second is how he was constantly trying to prevent his daughter from interaction with Baby, and third is how he failed in both cases to give more of his attention to business instead of his daughter who got too close to Baby and got clawed and actually causing more children suffer and die instead of actually "putting back together" his younger son and/or letting him go Help Wanted 2 one, as it shown during the gameplay being a parallel to Security Breach must be about what happened between SB and SB:R instead - Vanessa thought she could deal with Mimic this time after she escaped with Gregory in the first part of the Security Breach story, because she has more experience now, and went down to set a proper security system with Gregory and thats how Mimic learned their voices and manners of speech, but eventually Gregory (Monster in the basement making the boy open the door story) and then Vanessa (Woman getting tricked by a boy into the witch oven story) miserably failed because of the same walkie talkie trick that Cassie falling for also the Gregory's backpack and walkie talkie being left in the underground is INCREDIBLY sus and other than those stories we don't really know what happened to them both

[@BeatsPerMinute2]

now i shall tell you a story. a story of a person who became obsessed with a candy dispenser and its secrets. that person longed to know the dispenser's secrets or if it had any at all, so they broke it until it could no longer perform its task and beat it further. the person finally found all the secrets of the broken candy dispenser, and in turn all the candy turned sour. that person, fed up with the candy dispenser, turned to leave. as a thank you for ending its torment, the candy dispenser gifted the person a crisp five dollar bill that was just five one dollar bills taped together and therefore completely worthless. the person was pleased and moved on to greener pastures, and the candy tasted sweet again.

[@Zecteiro]

Tbh, I think the end of the first story is about Henry and the Pizza Sim itself, because he lured everyone to the pizzeria (their coffin), where they become one thing after the burning.

[@Wizardjones69]

but we talk with candy cadet before that happens, candy cadet cannot predict the future, right????????

[@Zecteiro]

@@Wizardjones69 Tbh, I don't even know what exactly he is. He doesn't seem to be possessed, but how could he get new stories after the burning? He could be under influence of the memories of the dead children on Pizza Sim, but it doesn't make a lot of sense for SB and HW2. I wouldn't be surprised if the next book series presents something that can explain it better, although it definitely wasn't Scott original intent.

[@Directsandarchive3020]

Funny story about Candy Cadet, when I saw him in Ruin, it got me really teary eyed for some reason. I was like, "oh no, my poor robot boy, you poor little thing." Didn't know I felt so much for Candy Cadet until then.

[@Ozeglion]

I feel like with the Candy Cadet stories we get in Pizza Sim, we are probably only supposed to pay attention to the reoccurring theme of five things becoming one (the MCI kids) and not try to connect the humans in the stories to actual characters like William and Henry. But who knows.

[@princessmarlena1359]

In a way, he is a soothsayer who sells candy and hints via his stories. He was somehow tuned into things as the overall “Greek Chorus” to the series over story for the player.

[@salomeheredia9885]

21:02 I love that interpretation with Fazbear and Friends lol What a sellout!

[@RKStone]

Great video! Love the interpretations too! Regarding the story in Ruin, do you think the moment Mimic tricked Gregory with Vanessa's voice was towards the end of SB, when Vanessa says something like "What are you still doing here? The doors are open! ... I think you deserve a reward. Go to the main stage..." I know it's hard to tell since there was so much cut content, but I did always find it strange that Vanessa's tone shifted from annoyed to, coaxing? In that one line. Just a thought...

[@MollyDollyy774]

6:37 _"He pieced the remains together"_ that clips is used by Candy Caddet in FNAF: UCN, in some runs

[@Handles_AreStupid]

Hey, just a quick hint for the "figurative key" part. The "she" is actually refering to baby, and the "melting the keys to save them" refers to molten freddy. Molten freddy has the souls of 5 victims, and they were convinced to merged based on baby's suggestion that it would make freedom easier.

[@champe0n61]

Wait, the "kind man" was worried about "someone breaking into "one of their five homes." Candy cadet is warping the story. The kids' adoption was actually five kidnappings. There weren't five orphanages that housed one orphan each. There were five abductions of children who weren't orphans. The "burgler" was probably somebody who came to free the children. And somewhere in the untold part of the story, the kids were killed and put into suits. The kind man interprets the destruction of the machines as his own children being murdered. And he melts the machines together.

[@marsbar31000]

“Not every story has to be about something Orville. Sometimes a person just wants to talk, why does it have to be a story?” - Mr Hippo

[@cimi1272]

I like the idea that agony is what posses CC. He’s not haunted, but filled with the thoughts and feelings of those around him. Imagine if the 5 things becoming one WAS CC. Like he’s all the original souls. I don’t thinks it’s happened in canon, but it’s a fun thought

[@balloonboy5212]

My guess is that Stan's budget tech is a company made by henry to give insight to the manager on why this has to be done, with fruity maze, midnight motorist and candy cadet to give backstory.

[@GJames-Legend101]

Honestly candy cadet is one of my most favorite characters, I kinda hope he has more screentime and given more stories, something cool I imagined is what if on the security breach website instead of a monitor screen it’s candy cadet and as a teaser he tells us cryptic stories that could hint new games and stuff like that.

[@cootermarie9426]

I've always had a theory that candy cadet's stories are purposely vague so in the future Scott can apply them to anything and then pretend the story has been planned out all along. I also apply this to pretty much all of fnafs story telling post sister location.

[@Wizardjones69]

pretty much every story telling post fnaf 4

[@cootermarie9426]

​@@Wizardjones69 I say sister location because Baby's dialogue is pretty overt. It's also the last time we are directly told who we are playing as.

[@damkylan3]

Well, it doesn't really work because he's never used these stories for anything lol. Not to mention that they always have numerous connections to existing and current story events (current when they happen), so they wouldn't really be useful to connect to future events anyway.

[@jonathanspray2362]

We were so close to getting a modern day fnaf video essay that doesn’t have the princess quest song in the background.

[@QuestionDeca]

Further along and a new thought... If Candy Cadet is being programmed with these "Stories" who and why are two Questions you really need to answer before you take his words for anything.

[@lauratanner6493]

As someone who has been a fan since the beginning when I was about 12 and I stopped paying attention around sister location because things got way too confusing hearing the nice man story for the first time absolutely blew me away wth