The UPS and DOWNS of "The GREATEST Wrestling Match Ever"

Adam Copeland, fka Edge, was booked to face Randy Orton at Backlash 2020 in what Vince McMahon called "The Greatest Wrestling Match Ever." During this NotSam Wrestling podcast interview, The Rated R Superstar discusses every behind-the-scenes detail from the initial phone call from Paul Heyman, to Vince McMahon's desire to keep in the cutaway shots, to the love letter aspect of constructing the match.
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[@JasonSeville]

Telling everyone ur gonna have the greatest wrestling match of all time during the empty arena era is ballsy af.

[@chrisbelit1599]

it really was. but vince is insane so

[@wolfwang8464]

“Ballsy”?! More like stupid. Anyone with a brain knew it was stupid and made no sense lol

[@EmmanuelBrown-vv6jt]

​@@chrisbelit1599it's not insanity it can be done did you forget Halftime Heat or are you too young to even know it when The Rock and Mick Foley had uh empty arena match and it's a classic

[@thewrestler9184]

@@EmmanuelBrown-vv6jt Well one that was in an empty ARENA, not an empty warehouse so there was a lot more to work with. It was a no DQ falls count anywhere instead of a standard wrestling match with no crowd. And that was during the Super Bowl so a whole lot of people would be tuning in to watch, I don't know who preformed in the Super Bowl that year but I'm sure halftime heat between Rock vs. Mankind for the WWF title during the peak of the attitude era was more fun to watch than whoever preformed in the halftime show, heck it was more fun to watch than the Broncos thrashing of the Falcons, thanks for choking 15-1 '98 Vikings.

[@liquiddookie7526]

AEW does it all the time

[@RandomDude-kr5ql]

It probably was the greatest match ever without any audience

[@SheriffCheese]

Thats not how you say Best Friends vs Santana/Ortiz Street Fight

[@brianbenoit6883]

Definitely a huge advantage not having a bunch of nimrods thinking it revolves around them. I miss the no fans era.

[@Le___K]

​@@brianbenoit6883Said no one ever

[@gustavoclarindo101]

Ilja vs Gunther tho👀👀

[@wincute100]

Edge is great on telling story about all this stuff. The way he told the story is so funny

[@Just.Sketching]

It was not the greatest match in the world.. it was just a tribute..

[@CaptainRedbeard.]

👏👏👏👏👏 I applaud this comment very much 😅

[@Mickey-ke3hy]

Yes tenacious D

[@toolisgod6]

I see what you did there

[@robertwarf3316]

I wish we were there

[@TheOnlyDTM]

@@robertwarf3316just a matter of opinion

[@inigobilbao3358]

I loved the match, precisely because it was just about doing wrestling. It would have been perfect if they didn't put the camera shots to the audience (they exagerated too much their expressions and the amount of shots was crazy) but for me, almost a perfect match. Randy and Edge are two greats. It surprises me people don't talk that much about this match.

[@kousikrakshit1295]

Orton pretty much carried the covid era. With edge and drew, he really went prime 09 orton to deliver in that match. One of my favorites in recent years. And edge became a better in ring wrestler since coming back. His match with rollins at msg and summerslam are stellar matches.

[@CantRead1]

No one talks about it due to the tagline. You can't expect me to take that tagline serious when Shawn and Taker's Wrestlemania 25 match exists.

[@wolfwang8464]

It was a bad match with more backstage shenanigans than actual wrestling lol

[@jaybarbieri8619]

​@@wolfwang8464 You're thinking of the LMS match at Mania.

[@JACQUEZJOHNSON23]

​@@kousikrakshit1295orto didn't not carried roman and drew did

[@Maestro..]

7:00 A hot crowd makes a decent match into a good match, a good match into a great match, & a great match into an all-time classic. I agree with Edge here--if only this match happened in front of an audience! 😔

[@therobinx20]

Punk vs Cena is the biggest example of this, if it wasn't for Chicago Crowd, that match was mid af. especially Cena's sloppy punches and irish whips and Punk's unathletic counter to Attitude adjustment.

[@winstonhermann3244]

It was a pretty good match. I tried to hate on it, but it was good af.

[@Lee-jo7xj]

Straight up a greatest hits of some of the greatest matches of all time in one single moment for no one to see lmao that’s what makes it great in my opinion

[@ryanpatrick3284]

I love the way he tells stories. Such a funny guy.

[@Zoninator]

I still believe the theory that Vince wanted "the greatest match ever" so that if you googled that phrase you would find Edge/Orton instead of Omega/Okada

[@rashidbinzamanshaan5841]

Both are overrated matches anyways

[@JamesPoe-tr1tm]

If you said Omega vs Okada to 97 percent of the population, they wouldn't know what you were talking about.

[@toolisgod6]

100%

[@Cablev94]

Well, that wasn't the greatest wrestling match ever, either. soooooo....

[@TomClancy-cq5om]

Omega/Okada isn’t the greatest match either

[@bass_brommie]

Calling the match the greatest wrestling match was the first mistake

[@antivenom56]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@robotcrocodile]

It was a gimmick, a tagline.

[@ahmadceasar5484]

That's literally the point its not but telling people it is brought eyes to it

[@coolkidbradude7745]

Yeah it was just a gimmick because Randy was calling himself the greatest wrestler ever at the time, and was saying that in a pure wrestling match he could best Edge.

[@roachasaurus2020]

It was fun to watch honestly

[@T0rsent]

Because you're 7

[@liamhemstock2286]

You don’t call something the greatest wrestling match ever before it’s happened. It sets too high expectations and Randy and Adam knew that. I don’t blame them for it at all of course not but the match we got was actually really good and was on paper something you could go “yeah they were right”. Big moves, good action, good story. For me it isn’t even the match of the year for 2020 but it’s really good and a way for them to say “let’s make a match built around wrestlers who we believe have had the best matches ever”. I felt they genuinely did the best they could and it was great

[@peterhedberg9528]

The match that would never end...maybe it still going on and on...

[@Sawcon4]

I loved the match. It was awesome and super well done.

[@dereklocke18]

It was good but I thought it could have been a lot shorter. Very plodding through some portions.

[@georgephillips3794]

I could listen to this guy all day

[@Bk26342]

The tagline/gimmick was needed to make the match an attraction to attract viewers during the pandemic era

[@deenuk125]

People gotta realise that when a new wrestling watcher types "greatest match of all time" this will come up That was the idea and gimmick To take away internet traffic away from other the suggestions from online wrestling community who'd say some match in new Japan or ROH etc.

[@hayatojin2886]

Edge on there is no greatest its all subjective, man i wish more people had the same mindset.

[@willcardona7712]

I wonder if WWE would consider releasing the uncut and unedited version of the match.

[@BlazedApples]

I actually really enjoyed this match

[@T0rsent]

Because you're 12

[@therobinx20]

@@T0rsent no, if he was 12 he would like flip flop BS video game like gymnastics that some marks call wrestling.

[@BlazedApples]

@@T0rsent if I was 12 why would I care who Randy Orton and Edge were?

[@therobinx20]

@@BlazedApples forget it mate some people are biased AF, and can't like or enjoy anything with a clear mind. They have convinced themselves that anything that goes in Japan is dope and anything else in WWE is shit, you can't change it. A troll is a troll.

[@BlazedApples]

@@therobinx20 cheers mate 👊🙏

[@kjjr6713]

The match wasn’t bad but the timing was. Should’ve been the first event to have a crowd

[@thribs]

I assumed Vince called it that so it would show up in search engines when people searched for the greatest wrestling match

[@inside_wrestling]

I think its a great idea for the reason to watch the wrestling in pandemic. Whatever, Vince put many efforts to make WWE intresting at that time and different from other.

[@James66662]

its genius when you search greatest wrestling match this will come up on your feed

[@ryanpetty8843]

Idc how good two workers are, billing it as “the greatest wrestling match ever” is really pretentious.

[@Dknyj6891]

As much as I hated the pandemic era, you really got to see the most creative wrestlers shine.

[@thatokolagano2582]

Imagine if this match happened at this years' backlash

[@Mr-qi2ik]

I fell in love with this match as it was unfolding bc it is exactly as Cope says "A love letter to Wrestling." Masterpiece

[@looneylogic6479]

You can tell lighting when to strike 😅

[@NotSolidx2015]

It’s a great match

[@7FRANKCASTLE]

For me it was one of the greatest wrestling match ❤

[@jshawn7]

What's pick ups?

[@wresling300]

I thought their Mania match sucked and was super boring. Loved the Backlash match!

[@sadbucket233]

Kinda sad, edge asked randy to reform rated rko, gets rkod Edge asks christian to team again, gets told to fuck himself

[@cropsey7412]

It wasn't the greatest match ever but I think it's my favorite match from Edge since he came back in 2020.

[@MrPerfect2000Z]

Orton being in a rush to absolve himself of most of the responsibility is just natural ha

[@joemckim1183]

This is The Greatest Comment in KZbin History.

[@warmachine68]

Did vince say why?

[@insignificantaftermathPROJECTS]

Vince is crazy but he pushed his guys to challenge themselves like no other.

[@thewrestler9184]

Man you know something like "Greatest Wrestling Match Ever and that's not an opinion it's fact" was a 100% Vince call, ain't no way Paul Heyman thought of or really supported something ridiculous like that.

[@khesipresents1885]

If Paul Heyman is such a genius why he didn't pay his ECW wrestlers

[@Hangingwithfarrah]

The greatest match of all time is savage vs steamboat wrestle mania 3

[@robertlipps1]

Ummm I hope you asked Simon Miller to use UPS and DOWNS.

[@Amberh2432]

Yeah because those words didn’t even exist until Simon Miller created them

[@robertlipps1]

@@Amberh2432 they 100% did not. He made them up. Why??? Here’s why!

[@dhruvtrivedi1335]

​@@robertlipps1HOW DARE YOU NOT SLAP YOUR HEAD BEFORE SAYING HERE'S WHY?

[@q.h.s5051]

I remember looking at my brother and saying "They must be replaying Taker vs HBK at 25"

[@alo4912]

Is this like a Mandela affect thing lol. I could've sworn it was Edge vs Aj styles

[@tasin0634]

Nope It was Randy vs Edge Always

[@NotSolidx2015]

Nah I just slow

[@therobinx20]

Edge vs AJ was decent but not so good, they could have delivered better in their primes though. Most of the styles matches in WWE are just hit and miss, cause we expect a lot from him, but man is nearing 50 now, so we can give him a break.

[@JR-he6fn]

love edge and orton but this was the worst main event feud ever because of that tagline

[@user-rx2hw8up2j]

If Edge vs Orton was the greatest what does that make Copeland vs Danny Garcia?

[@oshikuru09]

Randy's this is all you bro 😂

[@8000ismymiddlename]

I loved it but it was a weird title

[@alekxander2670]

Turned chicken shit into chicken salad frfr

[@heyiamnick4144]

I mean was a good match great match even. But definitely not the greatest match ever I don’t think it would even make the top 50. I find it hard to judge because it was during the pandemic with no fans and it was taped and edited

[@SE7EN1NE7ES]

Why I feel Edge lost his aura when he cut his hair lol just doesn’t look right 😂

[@prayerindeed8502]

He's better focus on AEW lol..

[@dimestoretrophy6233]

10 pounds of shit in a 5 pound bag

[@demetriuspm.122]

"Well actually Ozzy Osbourne is the king of metal so yes the greatest band group exist" 🤓

[@MrJamess1982]

Call me naive but I thought this match title was a way to manipulate internet search results to move WWE to the top of the list whenever someone would search ”greatest wrestling match ever”.

[@PrestonGarhvey]

You know this dude regrets going to AEW, went from sold out to 40 people going mild

[@MichaelSheaAudio]

Huh?? 😂

[@chrisshirey6035]

Lmao

[@Amberh2432]

He’s having a blast he gets a better schedule, great pay and gets to work with different people during these Cope opens and such. I doubt he regrets anything.

[@PrestonGarhvey]

@Tokyoconvertible87 nah he regrets going from an actual wrestling promotion to the TNA in a bigger arena promotion

[@MichaelSheaAudio]

@@PrestonGarhvey certified troll, let us feel sorry for this unfortunate human that is JuanCenaOG.

[@eucalipto9724]

i liked the match but the stupid, corporate, petty decision of calling it "the greatest wrestling match ever" is so, SO stupid man... so stupid... i cant take that match seriously because of it... but as some kind of tribute, ok... its ok

[@micleedow2809]

i wish i could buy edge for what hes worth and sell him for what he thinks hes worth.

[@miniman2132]

Edge is great what the hell?

[@bumblebee5246]

PUNK fans are salty edge cut that promo this week​@@miniman2132

[@Chris420x1]

There was no ups to it. It was garbage and definitely doesn't deserve the title of greatest wrestling match ever 😂 can't convince me otherwise

[@Scruface954]

can't believe a guy who slept with his co-workers GF

[@ningboy3274]

If you’re really gonna title this with UPS and DOWNS without mentioning Simon Miller yall are bogus as hell and this podcast is trash

[@Amberh2432]

Oh that’s right Simon Miller invented both the words up and down I almost forgot

[@therafter7494]

Worst mania match of all time more likely

[@therafter7494]

Poor.tribute too

[@skill14]

That match was good, but the Mania match before was 50 mins of boring garbage. I lost respect for Edge when he started blocking people on Twitter for saying the match was boring. Lol.

[@Bale4Bond]

That match was an endurance test. No, that is not a compliment.

[@McGomezAddams]

Nowhere near being the greatest match ever Overrated wrestler that never moved the needle

[@Amberh2432]

Not true at all but I’ll forgive you for your lousy comment

[@McGomezAddams]

@@Amberh2432 Thank you so much

[@morlun838]

​@@McGomezAddamsMore people watched Edge and Lita bang than watched CM Punk do anything ever.

[@McGomezAddams]

@@morlun838 Rent Free

[@boredbitch666]

ratings disagree,cm punk isn't doing below 750k and edge isn't bringing in 2.2 million.

[@PunchDrunkTank]

This is not the greatest wrestling match in the world, this is the tribute!

[@hofcollector8717]

Why Not Call It That? Dave Meltzer gives all types of bullshit 5+ Stars that only 700,000 people see

[@HijoDelHongo]

Peak deluded Vince

[@action_bastard]

There’s no love letters in wrestling, Edge.